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Onegu
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
ahh. Ok. Yes. ofc I am not sure. Still you are on spot 2 to get lynched. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On November 30 2016 18:58 Onegu wrote: The problem is Koshi knows you cant meta read me or compare me to any other players. I try to change my meta on purpose every few games because I enjoy rolling scum more and when I roll scum I want to last longer so I can play it more. Koshi actually trying to make me look bad is very concerning to me. You look bad on your own. I don't have to try. I am just pointing it out. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On November 30 2016 18:58 mahrgell wrote: Well, IRL "lynching for information" is usually highly frowned  But okay, I guess I trust Koshi and you on this one... And at least you seem uninvested in this. Which brings me to: What is actually your opinion on the NU vs emp story? You are attacking Koshi now (not sure you are still on me), which makes me feel you don't think as bad about NU. Meanwhile I decide who to vote between the two... I honestly have no opinion on him other than he's uninvested, not spamming and not doing much but posting long posts. Definitely more reactive/defensive than aggressive or whatever. It's different for sure. But is it mafia? Probably likely but I could see him not being mafia too. Basically I don't care if we lynch him since different is normally mafia. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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mahrgell
Germany3942 Posts
@HF and how about emp? You feel like he is natural? --- At this point, between Emp ad HF, after reading their filters again, I feel like the posts and the meta speak against NU, but my mind somehow feels he may not be guilty, while on Emp it is the other way around. His posts are less bad than my mind makes them want to be but I just don't feel good about him. Let's go with "facts" here ##vote NeverUnlucky | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On November 30 2016 19:45 Koshi wrote: HF do you think Rels is possible mafia? All I know about rels is that he posted about Marcel and said that he/she was completely different to last game, complained about margarine's approach to the game being wildly different and bad and then voted me for pressuring his read. Margaret doesn't even appear in his scum list at the end of it. I think his read through was bad and achieved nothing, said nothing of note and then he left. He could very well be mafia. | ||
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Onegu
United States9695 Posts
On November 30 2016 01:35 mahrgell wrote: Hm... I can't agree with your pro town arguments. Like you usually at least have substance. Not necessarily substance I agree with but you have something. If you were scum, and knowing your own meta, wouldn't you just fill up the thread as you usually do but drop the substance? Because this is exactly what I feel is happening with Onegu here. Being funny is not a towntell to me, sorry. (At best it makes him worth to keep around and kill him last. ^^) And not sure how those 2 quoted posts are townish, but well, early game vibes are rather subjective I guess so whatever. This is actually a fairly townish post. The changing of meta is something I do. He is wrong of course, but I do like where is mind is at with this post. On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote: I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their game with me ever they would try to push me at someway. The only rule that is in this game is the onegu rule and I am not going to bring it up... On November 30 2016 07:20 Rels wrote: HF I hated that one post I quoted earlier. Rest of filter is meaningless. Actually this post is him further going deep down to a pointless argument, which doesn't show the "HF gamesense" Koshi was tlaking about at some point. I dont like where you are going here. I am really town reading HF hard and the fact that he is more laid back here screams town HF to me. On November 30 2016 07:33 Koshi wrote: His point is that he is now tryharding as town and breaks his meta... It's ridiculous because he hasn't done shit. No my point wasnt tryharding it was posting more. I hate you keep trying to make me look worse than what is there and you keep doing it and you know you shouldnt when it comes to me. You say dont lynch me and then you are all kinds of false shade on me. And really is bothering the fuck out of me. On November 30 2016 07:48 Koshi wrote: No I am being incorrect. His play is just good. The meta is only a part. The feels are just townfeels I would have with everybody that plays like he does. Saying there is mafia between 2 people because it feels like there is, is bold and can come from a townie. Yes, it could be mafia trying to force town to pick a mafia between the 2 or so but that is not how I read that. It's all good. He is not mafia. My problem with this is iirc he hasnt shown any thought about which one is scum he just says it is TvM with no thoughts about which is which and why. On November 30 2016 07:51 Rels wrote: Let's kill HF. ##Vote Holyflare Yeah never voting HF. On November 30 2016 09:35 Holyflare wrote: Anyway, still not capable of being productive in the slightest, sorry. Just really not feeling it. This is town HF 100% On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote: He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally. My problem is less with how fast and more to do with who started it. Koshi in scum QT HF is being lazy day 1 lets get him lynched so we dont have to waste a bullet on him. Then people see koshi and start doing that. I really feel koshi is scum here again. On November 30 2016 12:58 Tictock wrote: This feels like a weird discussion. 3 votes is hardly a quickly formed wagon. I'm also not sure how HF being considered a good player is relevant to him being pushed like this. In fact I had the opposite reaction, that the people pushing him are more likely to be town given they were pushing a "stonger" player. HF being the player is pretty subjective as well. I'm probably biased, or maybe I just missed him in his prime, but I haven't seen why people have this opinion about him. This is so wrong. So wrong. A strong scum player wants a strong town player out of the game. And if one of the biggest things I can point toward koshi is he has some large brass balls and would want to go after HF. You thinking it is town to do so is much less. People dont want to lynch the better players day 1 as town. I want HF in this game if he is a question mark and I think he is town not a question mark. Because I know if he is town he will catch scum 100%. Koshi pushing a HF lynch is much more a scum tell than a town tell. On November 30 2016 13:04 emperorchampion wrote: Who is town for you, and who is mafia for you? I dont like posts like this at this point in time. EC hasnt done much of anything and he comes into the thread with asking someone for reads. Seems lazy and wanting to look like he is contributing without actually contributing.... On November 30 2016 13:11 Tictock wrote: LS has a bit of a history of claiming blue unnecessarily or way too early, pretty sure that was a jab at that. It's a fairly old meta though. I find this less strange than the people who took Shapes cop claim seriously. LS knows I am in this game and he knows a very good way to destroy onegus sanity and make in go off the deep end fully onto LS is to make a serious claim day 1. On November 30 2016 13:42 LightningStrike wrote: 3 in a small time frame is kinda quick tbh or my definition of quick. Anyways HF during his prime was probably the best player to had played the game as both alignments. Right now ask yourself why town Koshi goes after HF and not adapt a more wait and see. There are much more scummy reasons for Koshi to go after HF. Before the pressure on HF, HF floated the idea that Koshi is scum. Koshi knows that if there is one person in this game besides onegu who can push his lynch and get it done it is HF. In this Koshi is much more likely to be scum than town. On November 30 2016 15:49 sicklucker wrote: ya i dont know why you morons want to lynch hf day 1. I would sheep him way before I would lynch him. I agree with alot of his points TRUTH On November 30 2016 17:29 Koshi wrote: second person who says this but I am pretty sure it is only Rels and I who voted him. And I pasted my voted after Rels to just give the wagon some more prominence. It's all good. HF is maybe not mafia but it is not because the wagon formed on him too quickly. Please disregard that idea. Lol just LoL | ||
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Onegu
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On November 30 2016 19:53 Holyflare wrote: All I know about rels is that he posted about Marcel and said that he/she was completely different to last game, complained about margarine's approach to the game being wildly different and bad and then voted me for pressuring his read. Margaret doesn't even appear in his scum list at the end of it. I think his read through was bad and achieved nothing, said nothing of note and then he left. He could very well be mafia. Ok. I need to reread but yes, I had a bad feeling based on nothing concrete yet. Going to see what he really talks about. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
Ok. I need to reread but yes, I have a bad feeling based on nothing concrete yet. Going to see what he really talked about yesterday with me. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
Mafia to town: 13. NeverUnlucky 12. Tictock 11. sicklucker 1. Rels 4. Onegu 2. Holyflare 3. Shapelog 6. darthfoley 8. Checkm8 9. mahrgell 10. emperorchampion 5. LightningStrike | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
My mistake. With Onegu vouching this hard on HF, and sicklucker basically doing the same I have to put HF quite low on the lynchlist. It's not that his posts are so incredibly bad. Rels, df and I put pressure in him. 2 people defended him hard, he said things, it's good enough for now. Progression is being made. 13. NeverUnlucky 12. Tictock 4. Onegu 11. sicklucker 1. Rels 3. Shapelog 2. Holyflare 6. darthfoley 10. emperorchampion 8. Checkm8 9. mahrgell 5. LightningStrike Sicklucker, Rels are both high because I expect things from them. Put EC a bit higher out of respect of other people their reads. But if TT/NU are mafia he is kinda confirmed town and I am living in that world. | ||
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Koshi
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sicklucker
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On November 30 2016 18:41 Holyflare wrote: It's not really odd. You didn't push me for pushing Margaret which I thought was very weird. You completely ditched your tt vote based on nothing when he plays the same way he's playing now (afk) as both alignments. You were posting about afking a lot and returning to not really post any follow up to anything. Like Margaret said, jabbing from the sidelines. Vote on me is whatever but it's incongruous with what you've been saying about me, "there's a reason hf might be town but it's not the speed of votes," "hf's posts sheeping me were cool and showed confidence in a read," "Margaret fell down a bit, maybe hf was right," and then you followed rels for some bull shit reason of "i didn't like that post." which is bs because like margarine is saying above in his new list "hf pushed me for correct things" so you and rels, your reasons for disliking me based on one post is bull shit when the person AGREES with what I've been saying about them. You post si much about how i could be town but then I'm second and even first in your list of mafia. It's crap. I don't hate your nu post now. But he did play this way as town in a recent game but that was d3 onwards so I'm hesitant to just follow it. Sl not pushing me and instead sheeping me is fucking weird when I'm pushing a new player. tbf Im not defending you im just defending general lazyness for myself :D. also last game you came at me hard and I was pretty chill with you because it was just day 1 and called you town. also that fucker wants to lynch me because im lazy | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On November 30 2016 18:53 Holyflare wrote: Who cares if a towny dies, you get a lot of information out of it. It's pretty irrelevant who dies day 1. Potentially even bad if mafia die imo. Makes the game complacent and stale. no shit yawn I day one is for scrubs tbh or guys who get nked and dont carry late game | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On November 30 2016 20:25 Koshi wrote: Yes. It really depends on how Rels continues. If he stays this inactive he is mafia. I already got completely outplayed by scum!Rels once and I know this is well within his range. Town!Rels will shine through over time. Far from there yet. My mistake. With Onegu vouching this hard on HF, and sicklucker basically doing the same I have to put HF quite low on the lynchlist. It's not that his posts are so incredibly bad. Rels, df and I put pressure in him. 2 people defended him hard, he said things, it's good enough for now. Progression is being made. Sicklucker, Rels are both high because I expect things from them. Put EC a bit higher out of respect of other people their reads. But if TT/NU are mafia he is kinda confirmed town and I am living in that world. why? I dont expect things from rels and I certainly dont expect much from myself. honestly rels is as terrible of a day 1 player as me. | ||
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