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On November 30 2016 20:49 sicklucker wrote:
Its also pretty annoying when I call 3 people mafia and everyone ignores that and says "im not doing anything". Its really hard to find 3 mafia on day 1 you know
Well... I think mahrgell is town. darth same.
Care to convince me otherwise?
Onegu/TT
Do you have any reason to believe these 2 are town?
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Hmm. I am willing to trade TT for either mahrgell or darth.
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Hm... <10 hours left, we have a train on NU (4), 2 old votes on HF, and some scattered votes...
Would love to know where everyone stands.
Tictock: --> emp : You had a full scumread on emp, half scum on NU. You think they both can be scum? Will you stay on Emp?
Onegu: -->Koshi: I actually liked your last post, and as mentioned I have serious doubts about Koshi at this point. But I don't think he is a realistic D1 target so I would love to discuss him at night. If nobody joins your Koshi lead, will you come back to voting for "lesser evils" (or lesser goods, if we talk scumwise) or will you stay principled on Koshi, effectively abstaining from the vote?
Rels: --> HF: Quite a while since you posted. Still convinced on HF? He posted quite some stuff since then. If this train dies down (seems like it) what is your updated opinion on NU vs Emp.
DF: --> HF: You mentioned you consider HF,SL or Emp as viable lynches. HF and SL posted. So you are now on Emp if it would come down to Emp vs NU?
HF: -->none: You went after me, had trust issues with Koshi, don't care about NU being lynched, are more than fine lynching Onegu... Well.. still no vote. If you could dayshoot someone now, it would be Onegu? If not, who else?
CM8: -->none: Can you stop playing clueless noob? Like I don't care if you are clueless or not. But you must have an opinion. Your strongest wording so far was some mistrust on NU (why? because others made good arguments on him?) and some weak stuff on Onegu. We are lynching someone soon. Can you become more concrete and post with a bit more confidence? If you were a dayvig, who would you shoot now?
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If you keep repeating that you need to make that big post.
##unvote
##vote mahrgell
I still will lynch NU most likely. But this guy. LoL.
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On November 30 2016 22:01 mahrgell wrote:
Onegu: -->Koshi: I actually liked your last post, and as mentioned I have serious doubts about Koshi at this point. But I don't think he is a realistic D1 target so I would love to discuss him at night. If nobody joins your Koshi lead, will you come back to voting for "lesser evils" (or lesser goods, if we talk scumwise) or will you stay principled on Koshi, effectively abstaining from the vote?
CM8: -->none: Can you stop playing clueless noob? Like I don't care if you are clueless or not. But you must have an opinion. Your strongest wording so far was some mistrust on NU (why? because others made good arguments on him?) and some weak stuff on Onegu. We are lynching someone soon. Can you become more concrete and post with a bit more confidence? If you were a dayvig, who would you shoot now?
Why such difference in language?
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If I had a gun I would shoot nu because it gives so much information about a lot of people. It would give extra light to koshi's theories and maybe make people take some harder stances before then. I expect people to be active around deadline and I'll try and write something useful for it.
I don't know why you liked onegu's post though it said absolutely nothing other than hard defending me when I don't need to be and are one of the hardest people to read on this site.
Lynch nu for info/possibly mafia
Onegu for likely mafia
Probably rels or one of the people I haven't read.
You should comment on what I wrote about rels btw. He said you looked nothing like town you and did absolutely nothing about it and instead pushed me who was going after someone he said looked weird. Just because you mistook me for Skynx shouldn't change his dislike of your "new style".
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Hi, finally I have a vote! Was already feeling lonely.
Cool. I already mentioned, that I see no point in filling the thread during the last half of the day with this discussion. Also I have you on Null, not on scum.
I don't think a lynch on you is gonna happen, and I'm not sure I would even want that, and I'm pretty sure you know about the first part too. So cluttering the thread with it now is certainly not leading in a direction that is helping town. Which makes your interest in it only reinforcing my doubts.
And honestly... I don't see any point in disucssing it with you anyway. So far all your answers have been "IM LOCK TOWN; YOU RETARD" and you obviously think this is how the convo is supposed to go. Nothing to argue then. I prefer to talk to others in this case.
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@HF will look into the rels stuff... give some time
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Just woke up:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 17:29 Koshi wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs).[/QUOTE]
I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around?[/QUOTE]
He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally.[/QUOTE]
second person who says this but I am pretty sure it is only Rels and I who voted him. And I pasted my voted after Rels to just give the wagon some more prominence.
It's all good.
HF is maybe not m
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 19:53 Onegu wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 01:35 mahrgell wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 01:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 01:21 mahrgell wrote:
Btw, NU, what made you lean-T on Onegu? [/QUOTE]
I recognize myself in him, and he's funny. I also think that his "Where is everyone?" and "SL was here then left..." posts were town. However, I don't think he's the most town itt anymore because he has yet to make a serious post which worries me. I can see where Koshi is coming from with the Dandel comparison.
Off for a while[/QUOTE]
Hm... I can't agree with your pro town arguments. Like you usually at least have substance. Not necessarily substance I agree with but you have something. If you were scum, and knowing your own meta, wouldn't you just fill up the thread as you usually do but drop the substance? Because this is exactly what I feel is happening with Onegu here.
Being funny is not a towntell to me, sorry. (At best it makes him worth to keep around and kill him last. ^^)
And not sure how those 2 quoted posts are townish, but well, early game vibes are rather subjective I guess so whatever.[/QUOTE]
This is actually a fairly townish post. The changing of meta is something I do. He is wrong of course, but I do like where is mind is at with this post.
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their game with me ever they would try to push me at someway.[/QUOTE]
The only rule that is in this game is the onegu rule and I am not going to bring it up...
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:20 Rels wrote:
HF I hated that one post I quoted earlier. Rest of filter is meaningless.
Actually this post is him further going deep down to a pointless argument, which doesn't show the "HF gamesense" Koshi was tlaking about at some point.
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 00:51 Holyflare wrote:
I find it hard to believe that the discrepancy I've outlined has gone over your head. Your retort of mockery just furthers my conviction.
If I have to enlighten the dim witted then I shall. The discrepancy is quite clearly that the only questions you ask are targeted at your town reads, who you should be the least wary of, and none to your scum reads, who should naturally be the inverse. [/QUOTE]
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I dont like where you are going here. I am really town reading HF hard and the fact that he is more laid back here screams town HF to me.
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:33 Koshi wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:30 Rels wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 29 2016 23:04 Onegu wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 29 2016 22:50 Holyflare wrote:
Can you give me a quick breakdown of which people fit into which category in that post margarine?
Just a simple:
Would like to know more:
and
People solely expanding filter with no content:
I'm very intrigued. [/QUOTE]
I may be padding my filter just so people can be like holy shit onegu has a 5+ page day 1 filter that means he is scum, so I can reinforce my you cant meta read me.
But I do think I got some content in there also. Maybe not...[/QUOTE]
Actually you're more tryhard as scum ?[/QUOTE]
His point is that he is now tryharding as town and breaks his meta...
It's ridiculous because he hasn't done shit.[/QUOTE]
No my point wasnt tryharding it was posting more. I hate you keep trying to make me look worse than what is there and you keep doing it and you know you shouldnt when it comes to me. You say dont lynch me and then you are all kinds of false shade on me. And really is bothering the fuck out of me.
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:48 Koshi wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:45 Koshi wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:18 Koshi wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:01 Rels wrote:
Koshi explain your townread on checkm8 ?[/QUOTE]
His posts more likely come from town than mafia wifoming like a madman.
I am a sucker for people that say this:
[QUOTE]On November 29 2016 23:28 Checkm8 wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.
+ Show Spoiler +[/QUOTE]
Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.
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[QUOTE]On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.
No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.[/QUOTE]
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Damn, I'm horrible at this. But believe me I'm town...because I'm not chocolate nor mocha...
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And the post in which he said I was mafia for being too nice. Don't know. It made sense when HF said it came more likely from town.
[...]
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Yeah, I found that last post to be townie as well.
Why is LS obvious town to you?
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Pure meta and feels. I have played with him before.
And he even had some good scumhunting somewhere. Well. At least interesting pressure. I completely forgot what it was but it was good.[/QUOTE]
No I am being incorrect. His play is just good. The meta is only a part. The feels are just townfeels I would have with everybody that plays like he does.
Saying there is mafia between 2 people because it feels like there is, is bold and can come from a townie. Yes, it could be mafia trying to force town to pick a mafia between the 2 or so but that is not how I read that.
It's all good. He is not mafia.[/QUOTE]
My problem with this is iirc he hasnt shown any thought about which one is scum he just says it is TvM with no thoughts about which is which and why.
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:51 Rels wrote:
Let's kill HF.
##Vote Holyflare[/QUOTE]
Yeah never voting HF.
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 09:35 Holyflare wrote:
Anyway, still not capable of being productive in the slightest, sorry. Just really not feeling it. [/QUOTE]
This is town HF 100%
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs).[/QUOTE]
I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around?[/QUOTE]
He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally.[/QUOTE]
My problem is less with how fast and more to do with who started it. Koshi in scum QT HF is being lazy day 1 lets get him lynched so we dont have to waste a bullet on him. Then people see koshi and start doing that. I really feel koshi is scum here again.
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 12:58 Tictock wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 12:01 darthfoley wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs).[/QUOTE]
I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around?[/QUOTE]
He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally.[/QUOTE]
I mean that may be true but i was unaware of this meta point when I voted on him. Never played a game with HF.
If he's one of the best players it's equally suspicious that he's spent a strange amount of time on D1 beating the mahrgell horse to death. Especially considering it doesn't look like mahrgell will be one of the realistic D1 trains.
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This feels like a weird discussion. 3 votes is hardly a quickly formed wagon.
I'm also not sure how HF being considered a good player is relevant to him being pushed like this. In fact I had the opposite reaction, that the people pushing him are more likely to be town given they were pushing a "stonger" player.
HF being the player is pretty subjective as well. I'm probably biased, or maybe I just missed him in his prime, but I haven't seen why people have this opinion about him.[/QUOTE]
This is so wrong. So wrong. A strong scum player wants a strong town player out of the game. And if one of the biggest things I can point toward koshi is he has some large brass balls and would want to go after HF. You thinking it is town to do so is much less. People dont want to lynch the better players day 1 as town. I want HF in this game if he is a question mark and I think he is town not a question mark. Because I know if he is town he will catch scum 100%. Koshi pushing a HF lynch is much more a scum tell than a town tell.
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 13:04 emperorchampion wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 13:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 13:01 emperorchampion wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 12:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 12:52 emperorchampion wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.
+ Show Spoiler +[/QUOTE]
Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.
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[QUOTE]On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.
No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.[/QUOTE]
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This post is not natural to me.
1) No mention of c8 when he actually makes quoted post (2). After quoted post (1) comes out, NU goes to reference it.
2) Makes me think NU was filtering c8 looking for something that looks bad to push him on it.
Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
I don't quite understand 1) :3 But I did not filter checkm8 when I did that post. The first quote was directly directed to me, so it was fresh in my mind, and the second one was made while I was online, so I made the connection.
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 12:53 emperorchampion wrote:
@NU, to answer a previous question: started thinking you were looking pretty bad, went to thinking you were OK and should maybe be left alone, now back to looking pretty bad.[/QUOTE]
Yeh, I figured that, I was asking why that is.[/QUOTE]
Well at the moment I don't really understand where in the game you're at.
So where are you at? [/QUOTE]
I'm up to date, I was thinking of filtering SL before heading to bed (in 15-20 minutes).[/QUOTE]
Who is town for you, and who is mafia for you?[/QUOTE]
I dont like posts like this at this point in time. EC hasnt done much of anything and he comes into the thread with asking someone for reads. Seems lazy and wanting to look like he is contributing without actually contributing....
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 13:11 Tictock wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 13:05 NeverUnlucky wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 29 2016 09:08 sicklucker wrote:
i just want to believe your not claiming power role but you probably are[/QUOTE]
Nobody flagged this?????????????
This is so fucking scummy, it's like Lunaticman's entry in that other newbie game where he blue read Stutters for [reasons?]. Why in the world would his reaction to LS asking others to trust him be that he is a PR?[/QUOTE]
LS has a bit of a history of claiming blue unnecessarily or way too early, pretty sure that was a jab at that. It's a fairly old meta though.
I find this less strange than the people who took Shapes cop claim seriously.[/QUOTE]
LS knows I am in this game and he knows a very good way to destroy onegus sanity and make in go off the deep end fully onto LS is to make a serious claim day 1.
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 13:42 LightningStrike wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 12:58 Tictock wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 12:01 darthfoley wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs).[/QUOTE]
I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around?[/QUOTE]
He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally.[/QUOTE]
I mean that may be true but i was unaware of this meta point when I voted on him. Never played a game with HF.
If he's one of the best players it's equally suspicious that he's spent a strange amount of time on D1 beating the mahrgell horse to death. Especially considering it doesn't look like mahrgell will be one of the realistic D1 trains.
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This feels like a weird discussion. 3 votes is hardly a quickly formed wagon.
I'm also not sure how HF being considered a good player is relevant to him being pushed like this. In fact I had the opposite reaction, that the people pushing him are more likely to be town given they were pushing a "stonger" player.
HF being the player is pretty subjective as well. I'm probably biased, or maybe I just missed him in his prime, but I haven't seen why people have this opinion about him.[/QUOTE]
3 in a small time frame is kinda quick tbh or my definition of quick. Anyways HF during his prime was probably the best player to had played the game as both alignments.[/QUOTE]
Right now ask yourself why town Koshi goes after HF and not adapt a more wait and see. There are much more scummy reasons for Koshi to go after HF. Before the pressure on HF, HF floated the idea that Koshi is scum. Koshi knows that if there is one person in this game besides onegu who can push his lynch and get it done it is HF. In this Koshi is much more likely to be scum than town.[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 15:49 sicklucker wrote:
ya i dont know why you morons want to lynch hf day 1. I would sheep him way before I would lynch him. I agree with alot of his points[/QUOTE]
TRUTH
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 17:29 Koshi wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs).[/QUOTE]
I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around?[/QUOTE]
He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally.[/QUOTE]
second person who says this but I am pretty sure it is only Rels and I who voted him. And I pasted my voted after Rels to just give the wagon some more prominence.
It's all good.
HF is maybe not mafia but it is not because the wagon formed on him too quickly. Please disregard that idea.[/QUOTE]
Lol just LoL[/QUOTE]
1st off how Koshi was being lazy? Second of all I really don't think Koshi would be this happy as scum considering his recent history of rolling scum. Third the LS rule is a thing I even said it in some past games.
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On November 30 2016 22:12 mahrgell wrote:
Hi, finally I have a vote! Was already feeling lonely.
Cool. I already mentioned, that I see no point in filling the thread during the last half of the day with this discussion. Also I have you on Null, not on scum.
I don't think a lynch on you is gonna happen, and I'm not sure I would even want that, and I'm pretty sure you know about the first part too. So cluttering the thread with it now is certainly not leading in a direction that is helping town. Which makes your interest in it only reinforcing my doubts.
And honestly... I don't see any point in disucssing it with you anyway. So far all your answers have been "IM LOCK TOWN; YOU RETARD" and you obviously think this is how the convo is supposed to go. Nothing to argue then. I prefer to talk to others in this case.
Skyrocketing up my scumlist. I am null? I have the most content of all.
Please. Explain. Why. I. Am. Scum. Or. Null.
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not reading that, LS... LOL
can you post it again with proper tags?
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Holy shit I messed up badly on format will fix it dunno where I fucked up on the quotes.
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On November 30 2016 22:15 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 22:12 mahrgell wrote:
Hi, finally I have a vote! Was already feeling lonely.
Cool. I already mentioned, that I see no point in filling the thread during the last half of the day with this discussion. Also I have you on Null, not on scum.
I don't think a lynch on you is gonna happen, and I'm not sure I would even want that, and I'm pretty sure you know about the first part too. So cluttering the thread with it now is certainly not leading in a direction that is helping town. Which makes your interest in it only reinforcing my doubts.
And honestly... I don't see any point in disucssing it with you anyway. So far all your answers have been "IM LOCK TOWN; YOU RETARD" and you obviously think this is how the convo is supposed to go. Nothing to argue then. I prefer to talk to others in this case. Skyrocketing up my scumlist. I am null? I have the most content of all. Please. Explain. Why. I. Am. Scum. Or. Null.
No. And explained my reasons enough, Learn to fucking read. Throw your vote at me, call me topscum, blegh. I really dont give a shit.
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On November 30 2016 22:16 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 22:15 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 22:12 mahrgell wrote:
Hi, finally I have a vote! Was already feeling lonely.
Cool. I already mentioned, that I see no point in filling the thread during the last half of the day with this discussion. Also I have you on Null, not on scum.
I don't think a lynch on you is gonna happen, and I'm not sure I would even want that, and I'm pretty sure you know about the first part too. So cluttering the thread with it now is certainly not leading in a direction that is helping town. Which makes your interest in it only reinforcing my doubts.
And honestly... I don't see any point in disucssing it with you anyway. So far all your answers have been "IM LOCK TOWN; YOU RETARD" and you obviously think this is how the convo is supposed to go. Nothing to argue then. I prefer to talk to others in this case. Skyrocketing up my scumlist. I am null? I have the most content of all. Please. Explain. Why. I. Am. Scum. Or. Null. No. And explained my reasons enough, Learn to fucking read. Throw your vote at me, call me topscum, blegh. I really dont give a shit.
lolololol. the guy that is completely oblivious to why people are sharper when called mafia is now being a massive crybaby after 1 vote and somebody asking him to explain his read.
Ok.
So you call me mafia by proxy and refuse to explain your read at all.
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Reformatting of old post:
Just woke up:
On November 30 2016 17:29 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs). I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around? He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally. second person who says this but I am pretty sure it is only Rels and I who voted him. And I pasted my voted after Rels to just give the wagon some more prominence. It's all good. HF is maybe not mafia but it is not because the wagon formed on him too quickly. Please disregard that idea.
Fair enough...
On November 30 2016 19:53 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 01:35 mahrgell wrote:On November 30 2016 01:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 30 2016 01:21 mahrgell wrote:
Btw, NU, what made you lean-T on Onegu? I recognize myself in him, and he's funny. I also think that his "Where is everyone?" and "SL was here then left..." posts were town. However, I don't think he's the most town itt anymore because he has yet to make a serious post which worries me. I can see where Koshi is coming from with the Dandel comparison. Off for a while Hm... I can't agree with your pro town arguments. Like you usually at least have substance. Not necessarily substance I agree with but you have something. If you were scum, and knowing your own meta, wouldn't you just fill up the thread as you usually do but drop the substance? Because this is exactly what I feel is happening with Onegu here. Being funny is not a towntell to me, sorry. (At best it makes him worth to keep around and kill him last. ^^) And not sure how those 2 quoted posts are townish, but well, early game vibes are rather subjective I guess so whatever. This is actually a fairly townish post. The changing of meta is something I do. He is wrong of course, but I do like where is mind is at with this post. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their game with me ever they would try to push me at someway. The only rule that is in this game is the onegu rule and I am not going to bring it up... Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 07:20 Rels wrote:HF I hated that one post I quoted earlier. Rest of filter is meaningless. Actually this post is him further going deep down to a pointless argument, which doesn't show the "HF gamesense" Koshi was tlaking about at some point. On November 30 2016 00:51 Holyflare wrote:
I find it hard to believe that the discrepancy I've outlined has gone over your head. Your retort of mockery just furthers my conviction.
If I have to enlighten the dim witted then I shall. The discrepancy is quite clearly that the only questions you ask are targeted at your town reads, who you should be the least wary of, and none to your scum reads, who should naturally be the inverse. I dont like where you are going here. I am really town reading HF hard and the fact that he is more laid back here screams town HF to me. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 07:33 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 07:30 Rels wrote:On November 29 2016 23:04 Onegu wrote:On November 29 2016 22:50 Holyflare wrote:
Can you give me a quick breakdown of which people fit into which category in that post margarine?
Just a simple:
Would like to know more:
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People solely expanding filter with no content:
I'm very intrigued. I may be padding my filter just so people can be like holy shit onegu has a 5+ page day 1 filter that means he is scum, so I can reinforce my you cant meta read me. But I do think I got some content in there also. Maybe not... Actually you're more tryhard as scum ? His point is that he is now tryharding as town and breaks his meta... It's ridiculous because he hasn't done shit. No my point wasnt tryharding it was posting more. I hate you keep trying to make me look worse than what is there and you keep doing it and you know you shouldnt when it comes to me. You say dont lynch me and then you are all kinds of false shade on me. And really is bothering the fuck out of me. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 07:48 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 07:45 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 07:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 30 2016 07:18 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 07:01 Rels wrote:
Koshi explain your townread on checkm8 ? His posts more likely come from town than mafia wifoming like a madman. I am a sucker for people that say this: On November 29 2016 23:28 Checkm8 wrote:On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia. + Show Spoiler + Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.
On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.
No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum. Damn, I'm horrible at this. But believe me I'm town...because I'm not chocolate nor mocha... And the post in which he said I was mafia for being too nice. Don't know. It made sense when HF said it came more likely from town. [...] Yeah, I found that last post to be townie as well. Why is LS obvious town to you? Pure meta and feels. I have played with him before. And he even had some good scumhunting somewhere. Well. At least interesting pressure. I completely forgot what it was but it was good. No I am being incorrect. His play is just good. The meta is only a part. The feels are just townfeels I would have with everybody that plays like he does. Saying there is mafia between 2 people because it feels like there is, is bold and can come from a townie. Yes, it could be mafia trying to force town to pick a mafia between the 2 or so but that is not how I read that. It's all good. He is not mafia. My problem with this is iirc he hasnt shown any thought about which one is scum he just says it is TvM with no thoughts about which is which and why. Yeah never voting HF. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 09:35 Holyflare wrote:
Anyway, still not capable of being productive in the slightest, sorry. Just really not feeling it. This is town HF 100% Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs). I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around? He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally. My problem is less with how fast and more to do with who started it. Koshi in scum QT HF is being lazy day 1 lets get him lynched so we dont have to waste a bullet on him. Then people see koshi and start doing that. I really feel koshi is scum here again. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 12:58 Tictock wrote:On November 30 2016 12:01 darthfoley wrote:On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs). I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around? He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally. I mean that may be true but i was unaware of this meta point when I voted on him. Never played a game with HF. If he's one of the best players it's equally suspicious that he's spent a strange amount of time on D1 beating the mahrgell horse to death. Especially considering it doesn't look like mahrgell will be one of the realistic D1 trains. This feels like a weird discussion. 3 votes is hardly a quickly formed wagon. I'm also not sure how HF being considered a good player is relevant to him being pushed like this. In fact I had the opposite reaction, that the people pushing him are more likely to be town given they were pushing a "stonger" player. HF being the player is pretty subjective as well. I'm probably biased, or maybe I just missed him in his prime, but I haven't seen why people have this opinion about him. This is so wrong. So wrong. A strong scum player wants a strong town player out of the game. And if one of the biggest things I can point toward koshi is he has some large brass balls and would want to go after HF. You thinking it is town to do so is much less. People dont want to lynch the better players day 1 as town. I want HF in this game if he is a question mark and I think he is town not a question mark. Because I know if he is town he will catch scum 100%. Koshi pushing a HF lynch is much more a scum tell than a town tell. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 13:04 emperorchampion wrote:On November 30 2016 13:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 30 2016 13:01 emperorchampion wrote:On November 30 2016 12:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 30 2016 12:52 emperorchampion wrote:On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia. + Show Spoiler + Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.
On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.
No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum. This post is not natural to me. 1) No mention of c8 when he actually makes quoted post (2). After quoted post (1) comes out, NU goes to reference it. 2) Makes me think NU was filtering c8 looking for something that looks bad to push him on it. Thoughts? I don't quite understand 1) :3 But I did not filter checkm8 when I did that post. The first quote was directly directed to me, so it was fresh in my mind, and the second one was made while I was online, so I made the connection. On November 30 2016 12:53 emperorchampion wrote:
@NU, to answer a previous question: started thinking you were looking pretty bad, went to thinking you were OK and should maybe be left alone, now back to looking pretty bad. Yeh, I figured that, I was asking why that is. Well at the moment I don't really understand where in the game you're at. So where are you at? I'm up to date, I was thinking of filtering SL before heading to bed (in 15-20 minutes). Who is town for you, and who is mafia for you? I dont like posts like this at this point in time. EC hasnt done much of anything and he comes into the thread with asking someone for reads. Seems lazy and wanting to look like he is contributing without actually contributing.... Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 13:11 Tictock wrote:On November 30 2016 13:05 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 09:08 sicklucker wrote:
i just want to believe your not claiming power role but you probably are Nobody flagged this????????????? This is so fucking scummy, it's like Lunaticman's entry in that other newbie game where he blue read Stutters for [reasons?]. Why in the world would his reaction to LS asking others to trust him be that he is a PR? LS has a bit of a history of claiming blue unnecessarily or way too early, pretty sure that was a jab at that. It's a fairly old meta though. I find this less strange than the people who took Shapes cop claim seriously. LS knows I am in this game and he knows a very good way to destroy onegus sanity and make in go off the deep end fully onto LS is to make a serious claim day 1. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 13:42 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 12:58 Tictock wrote:On November 30 2016 12:01 darthfoley wrote:On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs). I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around? He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally. I mean that may be true but i was unaware of this meta point when I voted on him. Never played a game with HF. If he's one of the best players it's equally suspicious that he's spent a strange amount of time on D1 beating the mahrgell horse to death. Especially considering it doesn't look like mahrgell will be one of the realistic D1 trains. This feels like a weird discussion. 3 votes is hardly a quickly formed wagon. I'm also not sure how HF being considered a good player is relevant to him being pushed like this. In fact I had the opposite reaction, that the people pushing him are more likely to be town given they were pushing a "stonger" player. HF being the player is pretty subjective as well. I'm probably biased, or maybe I just missed him in his prime, but I haven't seen why people have this opinion about him. 3 in a small time frame is kinda quick tbh or my definition of quick. Anyways HF during his prime was probably the best player to had played the game as both alignments. Right now ask yourself why town Koshi goes after HF and not adapt a more wait and see. There are much more scummy reasons for Koshi to go after HF. Before the pressure on HF, HF floated the idea that Koshi is scum. Koshi knows that if there is one person in this game besides onegu who can push his lynch and get it done it is HF. In this Koshi is much more likely to be scum than town. Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 15:49 sicklucker wrote:
ya i dont know why you morons want to lynch hf day 1. I would sheep him way before I would lynch him. I agree with alot of his points TRUTH Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 17:29 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs). I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around? He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally. second person who says this but I am pretty sure it is only Rels and I who voted him. And I pasted my voted after Rels to just give the wagon some more prominence. It's all good. HF is maybe not mafia but it is not because the wagon formed on him too quickly. Please disregard that idea. Lol just LoL
1st off how Koshi was being lazy? Second of all I really don't think Koshi would be this happy as scum considering his recent history of rolling scum. Third the LS rule is a thing I even said it in some past game
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On November 30 2016 00:08 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 23:58 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like you just made a wall of text on every player in the game for no real reason and the majority of your scum leans are simply the unproductive ones. It just seems so out of place. Why the need for the summary? Yes, my scum leans are the unproductive ones. Should I mark it again for you? Day1 I search for those who don't play for town. I'm not as brilliant as you to instantly have a lockscum read on my first post. And why I made it? Simply because I dived all filters, was frustrated about the lack of anything. Would have loved something more concrete. But this game is quite asleep. Besides Koshi I don't see any initiative at all. Everyone else is at best dropping one liners commenting about their feelings. And this is honestly quite frustrating. So if this wot triggers some activity... Hey, I'm totally happy.
Seems like townread?
On November 30 2016 18:42 mahrgell wrote:
On Koshi:
Uhm, originally I wanted to post a large post on how Koshi dropped from my town reads and why at this point im back at completely neut on him. But I think this does not really concern the day, so maybe we should focus on the lynches for the remaining hours. I would still like to discuss this during the night though...
from town to mafia to neutral without a single reason.
On November 30 2016 18:47 mahrgell wrote:
At least one thing connects HF and Koshi:
Both have this unpleasant kind of "I clearly can't be scum, and this is proven" posts.
Has this ever worked? Well... looking at Koshis recent scum wins (and late survival in D2), I guess it did.
What is this?
WHERE DID I NOT READ THE MULTIPLE TIMES YOU EXPLAINED YOUR CHANGE ON MY ALLIGNMENT?
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On November 30 2016 22:16 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 22:15 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 22:12 mahrgell wrote:
Hi, finally I have a vote! Was already feeling lonely.
Cool. I already mentioned, that I see no point in filling the thread during the last half of the day with this discussion. Also I have you on Null, not on scum.
I don't think a lynch on you is gonna happen, and I'm not sure I would even want that, and I'm pretty sure you know about the first part too. So cluttering the thread with it now is certainly not leading in a direction that is helping town. Which makes your interest in it only reinforcing my doubts.
And honestly... I don't see any point in disucssing it with you anyway. So far all your answers have been "IM LOCK TOWN; YOU RETARD" and you obviously think this is how the convo is supposed to go. Nothing to argue then. I prefer to talk to others in this case. Skyrocketing up my scumlist. I am null? I have the most content of all. Please. Explain. Why. I. Am. Scum. Or. Null. No. And explained my reasons enough, Learn to fucking read. Throw your vote at me, call me topscum, blegh. I really dont give a shit.
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