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On December 09 2016 23:16 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler [prediction] + My prediction is that emp comes back with some long winded drivel about how I must be mafia, despite not thinking that the whole game and agreeing with me at mostly every point today, and calls me mafia because I'm the counter wagon. What is the point of this post? To me it feels like you are trying to make it so that if I do consider you as mafia you will, just response with "hur durr I told you so". That's the most natural response to your useless drivel. | ||
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On December 09 2016 16:48 Holyflare wrote: Holy fucking shit ticktock. Prove the towny intention with mahrgell's slip and then you'll have a point. In that world I was living in confirmed mahrgell mafia. Then mahrgell posted about it being a joke which i found to be the shittest reason on the planet and then he made me feel a bit better when he explained it. If you're saying you don't like me because new information begets new reads then I don't know what to tell you. There's nothing opportune when emp into onegu is a free win. Now, like I've said a million times, why is emperor's posting today town posting? All he has done is: Ask why he's mafia Copied my reasoning EXACTLY to town read people Said he'd find mafia Didn't do anything to find mafia You're criticising EXCLUSIVELY ME for this slip thing when everyone in the game but you (and obviously Mabeline) agreed with it being a slip. On December 09 2016 16:50 Holyflare wrote: You want to know about darth to? When the above happened (mahr comes back with thought process and i feel a bit better) darth comes out with the biggest piece of bull shit case on me jumping on the only available counter wagon (me) based on reasoning that was legitimately false and crap. He just kept saying that I should be dead repeatedly when I shouldn't really and it looked bad and like mafia hopping on the next available bandwagon. Says EC-> Onegu is free win, but actually darth might be mafia too. LOL this is such bad bad play from HF | ||
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On December 10 2016 01:03 emperorchampion wrote: Is this HF flailing? Says EC-> Onegu is free win, but actually darth might be mafia too. LOL this is such bad bad play from HF I mis-understood this, LOL such bad play from EC | ||
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Anyways, I'm going to filter darth | ||
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My thoughts at the moment: - If Onegu is mafia he should be left until next day phase to figure out. - Based on that poe list is: HF / DF / Mahr - Right now my two preferred lynches would be HF / DF, the particular details is what I'm trying to figure out right now | ||
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On December 10 2016 02:16 mahrgell wrote: Repeating this again and again doesn't make it more true... You are simply ignoring it. But two make it short: Your D3 play after SLs weird presence looked completely weird. Especially you insisting that SL may be town. Regardless of how you came to that idea after all the shit SL posted, if you believed there to be such a high chance of him being town I would have absolutely expected a rampage there by you to wake town up and consider it again instead of simply accepting his demise. Given that I had the same though for half the day... I know how it feels to be in that spot. And if you really felt that TT was more likely scum than SL, well... the way you 2 fought there was in a way entertaining, but certainly not suited to change anyone to come from SL over to TT. And if you made this comment, but didn't believe it (why?) again your 1on1 with TT was completely strange. if SL was scum, all that was there to do was to find 3 targets out of the remaining players... And given that TT was amongst the top priorities for almost everyone, investigating him like this felt... strange. And it continued later too... you were entirely focussed on TT, and on not getting JK'ed yourself at night. Why? You never presented a 3 scum list... Again I simply can not follow your thinking there. I mean you were even beating on TT after he was already clearly called out the JK target... And unlike HF I still dont feel your reaction when you jumped my wagon was very towny. It wasn't a "oh lol, what a slip" but you simply jumped the first train you saw... At least how it felt to me... You explaining why I should scumread HF for it, when at the same time detailing why this makes no sense for scum!HF didn't help either. And now you vote me, flail against HF and then say you wanna investigate DF??? Why not investigate HF then? Like right now I really see no factual reasons why I wouldn't want to lynch you. Pretty much everyone you said since midst of D3 gives me very strong scum feelings. The only thing making me doubt right now is my last newbiegame, where you remind me of Exo... He also played completely strange, got cased by everyone, and then ignored all cases against him and went flailing against absolutely everybody he could get (and was town)... But not sure this is a comparison you want me to make... 1) With regards to sl I think we had pretty similar thoughts. Like what if he actually was VT trying to take a shot? To that I attributed about 40% chance in my mind since I was town reading him pretty hard most of day 1, 2, etc. But at the end of the day mafia would claim to draw out the jk, then try to trade 1v1. Especially one that was already caught for tmi. So that's what it boiled down to me. Why would I try to convince people so hard when I think it's more likely he's mafia? He wasn't even trying to defend himself at that point. 2) The "1v1" with TT was from my end mostly trying to convince him that I was town. The reason for this was that I recognized that we had pretty much the same view of the game day 1 and day 3 (day 2 is a bit whatever). Yes, he had made a case on me day 1 that I responded to, and I've gotten a lot of shit this game for not pushing on TT. But based on a lot of his posts he just looked more town to me. Why would I want to get jk'd? That serves no purpose in my mind since I'm already town, how does that help me solve the game. Also jk'ing TT was a great play because 1) he probably has a better handle of things and 2) because he was tunneling me since day 1. So if I get lynched and flip, if he's town you guys would pretty much auto-lynch him and town loses. 3) Looking into HF/DF is following you since you looked pretty town to me when I read through your filter yesterday. It's not a matter of not wanting to look into one or the other, just a matter of time available and priority in my mind. | ||
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On December 10 2016 02:40 Tictock wrote: Huh? I thought you were pretty sure Onegu is town, where are you getting him being mafia now? Also why save him for next phase if you think he might be mafia? I mean anyone at this point can be mafia except for you. I think he's probably more town than HF / DF at this point. Versus Mahr I dunno. Also maybe it's stupid logic but I really don't mind losing to Onegu, so to me I'd rather leave him until tomorrow. | ||
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On December 10 2016 03:52 Holyflare wrote: I feel like everything emp writes is absolutely appealing to emotion instead of solving the game. An excellent mafia strategy. Of course he can explain what he's thinking but that doesn't help solve the game. I feel like he's made a blunder with the poe thing and can't adequately explain why we're mafia. You're pretty much spot on with regards to the second paragraph, my mind is going in circles with who could be mafia. On December 10 2016 03:58 Holyflare wrote: Emp do something for me. I want you to do like a line summary of what you were thinking/did each day in the game up till now. Day 1: Trying to establish townieness and form town circle. More or less figured out NU after his pushes on me. Day 2: Thought that shape was more likely town, tried to get the most minimal thing out of him. Pretty much didn't do anything else since I spent a lot of time day 1, and shape / c8 demotivated me a lot. Day 3: Initially thought that rels could be maf, that was quickly dashed by sl rescinding. Spent some time figuring out sl in my mind. Tried to determine townieness on TT / convince him I'm town. Day 4: There was the claim thing where I thought the game might be over. Now trying to figure out who's town or not, and answer questions. | ||
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On December 10 2016 04:12 Holyflare wrote: This is remarkable difference to just last night btw. I don't think onegu or darth have changed but the poe has. You've flipped on me just as many times, so I don't know. Maybe we're both town. | ||
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On November 30 2016 07:30 darthfoley wrote: It's actually pretty crazy how bad sicklucker's filter is. This is so lazy and never explains anything. I only had like five posts at this point and he chose not to read any of them? Also provides no reason why he agrees with town reads. What made them horrible, and why does their interactions being horrible make them "very town"? When I think of "horrible" interactions, I think of two mafia buddies not knowing how to interact with each other in the thread He's a fine (at worst) policy lynch so far to be continued This is a good unprovoked attack on sl. sl trying to bus both his team mates day one seems so weird. Combined with the random "check me I'm green" post N1. Also I don't think that mafia would be so proud about finding the shapelog stuff start of N1. This is actually the first interaction in darth's filter that gives me pause, everything reads as town up to here. This I find really "convenient". On December 04 2016 05:59 sicklucker wrote: Lol he has df as his top town for literraly no reason. Just like he had me at the bottom even tho he was talking about 5 other players. He didnt mention df in his filter before this just like me. Knowing im fucking town and he put me at the bottom. This is just more proof to me that darth is his partner On December 04 2016 06:26 darthfoley wrote: Pretty sure it was the initial stages of buddying especially because I thought early game was town NU. Lat game I played with him was weird because he and calix were assholes to each other TvT the whole game, though I was more in the Calix supporter camp But keeping up the attack: On December 04 2016 07:08 darthfoley wrote: Lol @ the idea that SL tried to actively change the vote. You spent all day claiming that I was mafia 100%, recycled Koshi's accusation of me and then by EoD said I was spewed town by NU. You didn't try to change anything. White Knight To be continued, still reading through darth's filter. Initial impression is that it looks really good for darth, better than mahr I think. darth/sl as partners seems really unlikely from this. Whereas Mahr and sl's conversations could be more "convenient" (can't think of a better word at the moment). Just want to post some initial stuff since I realize I'm running out of time. | ||
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One final thoughts to wrap it up: based on the early game, if HF is a competent player, I think through no special effort darth managed to convince HF that he's town. Therefore, trusting this read, if HF is town he has no reason to lie, and darth is likely town. If HF is mafia he has reason to "buddy" darth, but there is only 1 mafia left, so darth is town as well here. | ||
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On December 10 2016 05:32 darthfoley wrote: I'd appreciate preferred lynch orders from TT and emperor if emp flips town. I'm assuming TT is emp --> HF, emperor what is your opinion? If you take everything at face value, then yes HF is super towny. That's the part that I'm struggling with at the moment. To throw some silly percents at it I would say that mafia is 55% Mahr and 45% HF. Practically, I would of course vote HF here since it doesn't feel like there's a lot of sentiment against Mahr at the moment. I'm waffling really hard between these two, and I think I'm going to re-read Mahr next. I feel pretty good about darth as town. If darth is mafia he had some maybe odd play at times, but overall good  , so I'm fine with it. | ||
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On December 10 2016 05:38 Onegu wrote: Im voting with HF today and then if we dont win lynching him 100% tomorrow wish we could no lynch if we had to but o well. And yes that is all you are getting from me today. Dude this is pretty bad since there's a real possibility that Mahr could be mafia. If you're afraid of HF, then lynch him now, since auto-lynching him tomorrow is stupid I realize and will lose us the game if he's town. | ||
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On December 10 2016 05:44 mahrgell wrote: Not enough time to go post by post... But somehow my brain can't make much sense of what Emp is saying. I simply don't understand it as townish thinking and have no idea how he got there... At the same time his posts feel "real" from an emotional level... And still no idea what to make out of Onegu... so if I leave Onegu out, I'm at Head: Scum-Emp-DF-HF-Town Heart: Scum-HF-DF-Emp-Town Any parts particularly that you have trouble reconciling? | ||
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On December 10 2016 05:52 mahrgell wrote: and emp seems always to townread the guy most he read last... Reads my filter, calls me very sure town Reads DFs filter, calls DF sure town... The issue is that everyone looks town to me, so I feel like a gold fish whenever I read something again  | ||
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On December 10 2016 05:56 mahrgell wrote: When you say "I thought there is a 40% chance of him being town" vs "he didnt even defend himself anymore -> no need for me to defend him"... I simply can't follow it... As I said... I had the same situation earlier the day, and simply can't follow your line... Also why did you feel the need to prove your towniness to TT? You weren't up for lynch... Also to me it looked way more like an accusation battle with both calling each other scum than an attempt to prove the own towniness. Would have to reread it though... Also I lack a clear line of your thoughts N3,D4... It again seems entirely unfocused... pretty much like "anybody but me" Why should I defend someone who gave up? It's a similar story with shape D2, except I had a good feeling that shape was actually town. With shape I tried my best to get something from him, and if he's not going to do anything then why should I bother. With sl I didn't even think he was town, I mean %'s are kinda dumb, but if you look at it in that way I didn't actually think he was town. Yeah there's a possibility, but if he's pretty much as you pointed out going for the NU approach then yeah, he looks like scum in the end. Proving my townieness makes to TT makes sense since I felt that he was probably town, and you want to work with other town. Having them tunnel you is bad for town and unproductive. I mean, I guess at this point I've narrowed it down to anybody but me, TT, Onegu, and DF , but theoretically I would be happy with anyone but TT over me since I know that we're both town. | ||
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On December 10 2016 05:58 mahrgell wrote: Well... who would you lynch instead of yourself Pending some more reading, my practically preferred lynch order would be HF->Mahr. | ||
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On December 10 2016 06:25 Holyflare wrote: But you've called me towny all game, you've sheeped my sentiment, I'm confirmed practically by jk actions, I pushed lynches through on two mafia when people wanted to not vote 1 of them and instead let them live, I've tinfoiled like crazy, I didn't even push easy lynches, I have a logical reason for everything I do, your % of me being mafia is less than mahr but you've called mahr town all day and mahr made sl claim jk, you've followed my push on mahr slipping but now have no reason to call me mafia, you town read darth last night and scum read onegu and nothing happened in between but somehow you magically had darth as mafia but now he's town again and onegu has disappeared from your scum list. You made a case on ticktock day 1 but refused to vote him for no good reason to jump onto your partner nu for credit, you did nothing day 2. You ABSOLUTELY did not push sicklucker day 2 until it was fucking down right obvious he was the lynch, you made the most wishy washy posts on nu in existence (read my case on you), you didn't die and ls did over you/mahr. Just join my vote that's still on Mahr and it's all cool then bruh | ||
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