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On December 06 2016 01:06 Holyflare wrote:
I've got a good case out on emperor, excuse me while I don't want to acknowledge you when you ignore it. If you're mafia you're doing a good job of trying to annoy me.
What more does this do other than nothing? You complain I don't put out content and don't read it when I do. Then whine about how I change my mind when I find new information and quite CLEARLY use it to insult me as a person instead of it having any game relevance.
If you think I'm mafia push me and give reasons why because for 4+ days you've just thrown petty accusations my way. Either put your vote where your mouth is or don't mention me again because I sure as shit would kill ls over the person being petulant.
What have I done today to annoy you this time? Try and solve the game? Every summary post you make is just a dig at me. I post fluidly what's on my mind in a second so, yes, it may be contradictory at times but that means nothing.
Not sure what our past history has to do with this.
And if you could read one bit, that while I do not understand your current play, I'm still on TT+X with you being one of the X. And I won't move off that.
Also I had you as pretty much townlocked at night... Just that your currently doing the exact opposite of everything I would expect from that person I townlocked there.
But let's ask me again why I suddenly dropped that townlock...
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Emperor is mafia. I'm not backing down on this.
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I'm willing to look into Emp... sadly I somehow got stuck with other stuff here... you know...
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I don't get how you think sl is vt, perpetuate this nonsense all day, then say I'm sheeping your read on him by calling him mafia and then say you don't even scum read him and then say that ticktock is mafia but then won't even read the guy that made a scum case on ticktock and never mentioned him again and never voted him day 1.
That's emperor.
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On December 05 2016 20:56 Holyflare wrote:
Only one to claim jk at night is sl. Sl isn't dead. Mafia can't alter kill in silent period. Everyone believed sl, no reason whatsoever for him to be alive.
Sl literally said he tmid and rels caught him out.
Mafia had no reason not to nk sl unless sl is mafia.
If SL is vt he claimed fake tmi because....? And then didn't die despite mafia knowing the setup is a jail keeper setup and sl showing tmi.
If SL is mafia he knew the setup and TMId and then didn't die because he's mafia.
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On December 06 2016 01:07 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2016 01:03 mahrgell wrote:
Hey thats great... Why are you now copying my arguments? Are you suddenly sheeping me?
So far all you ever blamed SL for was that he should not have survived (when half the thread including you propagated the idea that he may be town, but not JK)
You never once mentioned his D3 behaviour. It was only me who did.
The last sentence is also pretty untrue - at least hf and I had multiple posts about SL yesterday.
Not finding those. Actually HF went from "Must be Emp+TT" suddenly into "Emp+SL" with only one post:
On December 05 2016 20:56 Holyflare wrote:
Only one to claim jk at night is sl. Sl isn't dead. Mafia can't alter kill in silent period. Everyone believed sl, no reason whatsoever for him to be alive.
Sl literally said he tmid and rels caught him out.
Mafia had no reason not to nk sl unless sl is mafia.
But this isn't getting us anywhere right now. So I feel like letting HF rest for a while (also for both out tempers to cool down...) and maybe calmer minds can make up their opinion in the meantime.
Then again, I would still prefer opinions on TT over anything else.
And Emptime it is for me. ^.^
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On December 06 2016 01:24 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2016 01:07 Rels wrote:On December 06 2016 01:03 mahrgell wrote:
Hey thats great... Why are you now copying my arguments? Are you suddenly sheeping me?
So far all you ever blamed SL for was that he should not have survived (when half the thread including you propagated the idea that he may be town, but not JK)
You never once mentioned his D3 behaviour. It was only me who did.
The last sentence is also pretty untrue - at least hf and I had multiple posts about SL yesterday. Not finding those.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 03 2016 10:00 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 14:35 Tictock wrote:
Let's see if I can manage a filter dive. I've got an idea how I can do this but I won't be able to quote shit since I'm phone posting so bear with me a bit.
Gunna look at SL since his recent posts give me the heebies and I want to see what Shape has got for us before looking at him in depth.
A bunch of SLs posts seem like they could come from either alignment. The stuff that stands out to me is his TR of Shape because of Shapes earlier cop joke. SL made a post (#471) that indicates to me he knows it was a joke. The "I'll make mafia believe the claim and get Shape shot" bit makes me think he wasn't taking it as a real claim, and he even commented on Shapes grammar cop post. Then he goes on to say that mafia Shape never claims cop like that because he can't back out of it. Not only is it not at all true that mafia!shape would ever do that but it only makes sense if it were a real claim.
#687 - seems odd to me that SL expected himself to be lynched. Usually he has a lot of fight in him and claims he can't be lynched
#704 - feels like he is just adding shade to Gell with HF's pressure. Saying Gell isn't a newb and suggesting he might have a meta of making list posts feels off. The former suggests SL has experience with Gell but the latter is the opposite.
#705 - First mention of NU. Calls him out for pushing lynch bait LS and for calling SL scum. Kinda late to pickup the LS point so seems more of a OMGUS reaction. Kinda in line with Koshi's point about SL bussing.
#754 - straight up lie, SL never mentioned NU till after NU said stuff about him. Kinda wish I could check the timeline better but this is hard enough on a phone already.
#756 - a bit odd he says "maybe Emp" in his mafia list when he hadn't mentioned him before and had literally just agreed with Emps post where he voted NU
After that there wasn't really anything else D1. SL leaves a vote on NU, makes like 4 posts calling Onegu town for trying so hard, and that's it.
During the night SL called darth scum, didn't follow through looking for NU spew, and wants towncred for "finding scum" and "AFK voting scum". The last part would be fine expect for him basically sleeping Emp then calling him mafia in the next post.
Then suddenly today SL's posting is dramatically different and he's putting way too much stock into a really bad townread on Shape and not really evaluating Darth very well, just narrowly focusing on a few points.
TBH I could still see a lot of this coming from town!SL, but I am really starting to think he is mafia here.
On the the other hand these are all great observation. I started reading this post ready to be super critical about it but everything is fucking true - sicklucker's NU handling is fuckign weird in particular. Saying to him "you can die first", then saying to EC "yeah I can get behind a NU vote" (he's already said he's scumreading him ?) THEN calling EC maybe scum when EC main target was NU is super weird. Gonna quote it: Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 08:30 sicklucker wrote:On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.
Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons. Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced. Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt. Look at his entry: On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened. He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness. That looks forced. going after ls the ultimate lynchbait and getting mad about town circles. Then he just backs off it. then he attacks sicklucker on day one for no reason. he can die first so far Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 16:00 sicklucker wrote:On November 30 2016 14:05 emperorchampion wrote:
I remain pretty unconvinced by NU's last post.
##vote: NeverUnlucky ya i can get behind this. his reasons for scum reading me seem super made up after I called him out for scum reading people for no reason Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 16:02 sicklucker wrote:
pretty sure I cant be scum since everyone whos likely scum thinks im scum.
Darthfoley
mahgr
never
maybe emp On December 03 2016 10:02 Rels wrote:
+ SL knows he's often scumread on D1, as town or scum for that matter, I dunno if he would think "all the likley scum thinks I'm scum" as town. SL can you expand on this thought too please On December 03 2016 10:54 Rels wrote:I find this TMI convincing actually, it might be a scumslip if it's confirmed that we're setup 3. SL really used the word "jailkeeped" for no reason Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 18:46 sicklucker wrote:On December 02 2016 16:36 darthfoley wrote:On December 02 2016 16:22 emperorchampion wrote:On December 02 2016 16:14 Holyflare wrote:
Also, df is 100% town. There's no way I basically claim blue like 6 times and he doesn't kill me over koshi. These would have killed you, wouldn't have killed you arguments are silly. Filter padding at it's finest. Don't think this applies to my case. HF blue claimed like 5 times and I spotted it instantly. He would've been my NK 1000%. Surprised no one else seemed to catch on to this trend. (i'm aware it's wifom) On November 30 2016 16:29 Holyflare wrote:
You shouldn't lynch me. On December 01 2016 19:06 Holyflare wrote:
Mafia gotta kill me. Dis gonna be good. On December 02 2016 00:23 Holyflare wrote:
Mafia have to shoot me. It's super obvious what I am. On December 02 2016 05:02 Holyflare wrote:
You should all be town reading me. Dunno why I'm not top, pretty obvious what I am. Killing HF is a good medic dodge cuz people were sus of him and he claimed blue. I know it's WIFOM but why wouldn't you take the chance as mafia? hf is not a medic dodge... hf is a fucking amazing n1 kill and he was probably jailkeeped last night rofl. Proof that hf was jailkeeped last night? koshi died and no one else was really worth using it on. So your entire arguments are dumb because CLEARLY HF IS NOT A GOOD MEDIC DODGE. CLEARLY HE WAS THE FUCKING SAVE LAST NIGHT On December 03 2016 20:50 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 15:20 sicklucker wrote:On December 03 2016 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:On December 03 2016 05:53 darthfoley wrote:
Still waiting on those Shapelog reads ![[image loading]](https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder144/55341144.jpg) my reads are still my dat one reads since he has not really posted since... Its kind of your guys job to know it. I still think hes fucking town because of his cop stuff. Something a mafia would never do. That read still stands to this day because theres no reason to freakin change it. This doesn't make sense. This is a forced read. This amkes me think very much of Skynx' ExO read last game, where scum!Skynx just decided to townread town!ExO (exo was super scummy and was lynched D1) for bad reasons that he couldn't properly explain. The cop stuff is NAI in my opinion. And if we admit it could be townie, it's not something that should go against everything else SHape has done. On December 03 2016 20:53 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 15:31 sicklucker wrote:
and rels you find it weird that I vote with someone I think is maybe scumat the time emp?? on someone im like 90% sure is scum and at the top of my list?
I didnt really even think emp was likely mafia more null I just had alot of town reads at the time out of the people who were posting. alot of people had not posted at that time .
I was town reading koshi/hf/onegu/ls/shapelog everyone else who was posting pretty much except for that person so I just through in a "maybe" instead of a fucking null category Nope. The two scummy things were your "I could get behind a NU lynch" in reaction to EC making a post on NU, when you ALREADY scumread him; and you null/scumreading EC when he made the same points than you on NU but deeper. In addition I don't believe you think people scumreading you makes you town, you know a lot of people scumread you D1 as town. On December 03 2016 20:56 Rels wrote:
Another thing on SL is that he had ZERO town spree, like he usually does in 100% of his town games. When he finds that one stupid (or sometimes crazily good) thing and tunnel on it for posts and posts.
Thinking on voting SL over Shape. We'll see what Shape does when he goes back. On December 03 2016 22:56 Rels wrote:
That sl omgus.
Explain very clearly why shape would not claim cop at the start of the game as scum and how it makes him 100% town, you don't even need to read anything else On December 03 2016 23:41 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 23:06 sicklucker wrote:On December 03 2016 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sure I remember someone saying Shapelog has fake claimed before anyway? I personaly have not but thats not even what happened here. he tried to take a role bullit imo... poorly... Something which you did as well and I dont understand how you cant see it This doesn't make sense. You read is set in stone for an extremely weak reason and instead of seeing it hand adapting it you're defending it On December 04 2016 04:27 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2016 02:10 sicklucker wrote:
Emp
HolyFlare
huge drop
Ls
Mahr
onegu
shapelog
Ticktock
checkm8??? who
Rels
Darthfole
about where im at. Maybe rels was a bit omgus but fuck that guy. his read looked super forced and oputunistic
"Opportunistic" is the easiest word to use when you wanna throw fake suspicion to someone. Your shape read STILL doesn't make sense. Have you even read his filter ? He's the goddamn lynch right now and you don't think he's scum - at least you think there are 4 people scummier than him. Why ? You just admited your "he wouldn't claim cop" BS doesn't hold, why is he townier than TT C8 DF and I ? And to add to that, I find very suspicious that you wouldn't fight against a lynch you don't believe in, especially since I know you can do exactly that as town. On December 04 2016 04:28 Rels wrote:
Your shape read is exactly what Skynx did last game. You just decided he was town for this reason, but your read is not evolving, you're not re evaluating or using any other posts of it - hell you don't even show that you read his filter. ----------------------------- On December 02 2016 19:50 Holyflare wrote:
Player list:
3. Shapelog
8. Checkm8
This is my real list:
Town
Emperor
Darthfoley
Town looking but wouldn't be surprised if they're mafia
Ma gurl
Ticktock (i have no idea how you're here when i want to lynch you normally every game. If you're mafia I'll have a good metric of lynching you when I think you're town to follow)
LightningStrike (purely for pushing correct looking stuff but tinfoil)
Null
Rels (lots of reasons to town read him, lots of reasons to mafia read him)
Onegu (hesitation because of hard town read on me day 1, not much content, also absent now)
Sicklucker (dunno he just says words but town reads me and town reads shapelog??? Too weird)
Mafia
Shapelog (His cop thing looked really mafia forced, his return is crap, no reads, mire concerned with insulting my previous game than posting read, angry at weird times, looking at things the wrong way and in ways I've never seen a town person look)
Checkb8 (?????)
On December 02 2016 21:47 Holyflare wrote:
We vote off Shapelog today, guaranteed.
Sicklucker needs to explain his df and shape reads too On December 03 2016 20:20 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh I'd definitely lynch sl if shape wasn't blatantly burnt out mafia giving up after his last defence. On December 03 2016 22:21 Holyflare wrote:
Sl is uncharacteristically angry/annoyed this game On December 03 2016 23:08 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 23:06 sicklucker wrote:On December 03 2016 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sure I remember someone saying Shapelog has fake claimed before anyway? I personaly have not but thats not even what happened here. he tried to take a role bullit imo... poorly... Something which you did as well and I dont understand how you cant see it I do it every game and shape does not and has done it as mafia. Sooooooooooo. On December 03 2016 23:10 Holyflare wrote:
Like the dude literally has 0 reads despite saying he's caught up and then just fucked off when he saw nobody reacted well.
If he's town you're definitely dying dude. On December 04 2016 00:02 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 23:41 sicklucker wrote:
not all reads are made on meta. If shapelog does that as mafai then hes bad and should feel bad. but i doubt it This is so full of crap wtf? You just got told he does something as mafia and you're staying resolute that he's town when your only reason has gone? On December 04 2016 00:29 Holyflare wrote:
Yes I just told you about it and your reply was that he's still town because of it you loon.
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On December 05 2016 20:20 Rels wrote:
marhgell, the probability that SL fakeclaimed at night is like 0.01%; it's low to begin with, but here he posted after the night ended and didn't rescind his claim, which is the first thing he would have done as town.
you didnt give me a chance lul. you literraly did not give me a chance to recind dude. Why do you think I was so mad at the day start. I had a similiar plan to rescind at start of day/before night fall.
Also im pretty fucking sure you got the idea to recind 1 min before flip. Because I always fucking talk about doing that as town.
I was hoping we could just avoid this untill tomorrow and lynch ticktock which is why I refraimed from posting and keep the wifmo alive but you went and ruin that rels.
Here you claim.
On December 05 2016 08:01 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2016 07:12 Rels wrote:On December 05 2016 07:10 emperorchampion wrote:On December 05 2016 07:08 Rels wrote:On December 05 2016 07:01 emperorchampion wrote:
Rels wanna explain the cc? What is there to explain ? Why EoN, and not right now? I claimed at a time where it was impossible for scum to react to. this is so funny you dont even know
Heres my reaction...
But yes rels is town unless there is another j/k. but no he did not give me time to rescind my claim so lynching me for that is insane.
It was quite clear I was the lynch yesterday literally everyone wanted to lynch me so I tried to desperately take a bullet with fake rage etc. If im lynched today literraly nothing would have been lost with me tying to take a bullit but for some reason silly ass rels counter claimed before I had time to recind. Literraly preempted so I couldnt recind insanity. And then he fucking left wifmo cover by trying to lynch me when we could have lynched outside. Le sign
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Well im not caught up brb. I wont be mad at you if you lynched it was some really fucked up and unlucky situation but dont
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On December 06 2016 01:19 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2016 20:56 Holyflare wrote:
Only one to claim jk at night is sl. Sl isn't dead. Mafia can't alter kill in silent period. Everyone believed sl, no reason whatsoever for him to be alive.
Sl literally said he tmid and rels caught him out.
Mafia had no reason not to nk sl unless sl is mafia. If SL is vt he claimed fake tmi because....? And then didn't die despite mafia knowing the setup is a jail keeper setup and sl showing tmi. If SL is mafia he knew the setup and TMId and then didn't die because he's mafia.
It seemed way more believable if I "slipped" Theres no evidence mafia knows the setup
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On December 06 2016 01:51 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2016 01:19 Holyflare wrote:On December 05 2016 20:56 Holyflare wrote:
Only one to claim jk at night is sl. Sl isn't dead. Mafia can't alter kill in silent period. Everyone believed sl, no reason whatsoever for him to be alive.
Sl literally said he tmid and rels caught him out.
Mafia had no reason not to nk sl unless sl is mafia. If SL is vt he claimed fake tmi because....? And then didn't die despite mafia knowing the setup is a jail keeper setup and sl showing tmi. If SL is mafia he knew the setup and TMId and then didn't die because he's mafia. It seemed way more believable if I "slipped" Theres no evidence mafia knows the setup
I thought mafia did know the setup...
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On December 06 2016 01:33 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2016 01:24 mahrgell wrote:On December 06 2016 01:07 Rels wrote:On December 06 2016 01:03 mahrgell wrote:
Hey thats great... Why are you now copying my arguments? Are you suddenly sheeping me?
So far all you ever blamed SL for was that he should not have survived (when half the thread including you propagated the idea that he may be town, but not JK)
You never once mentioned his D3 behaviour. It was only me who did.
The last sentence is also pretty untrue - at least hf and I had multiple posts about SL yesterday. Not finding those. + Show Spoiler +On December 03 2016 10:00 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 14:35 Tictock wrote:
Let's see if I can manage a filter dive. I've got an idea how I can do this but I won't be able to quote shit since I'm phone posting so bear with me a bit.
Gunna look at SL since his recent posts give me the heebies and I want to see what Shape has got for us before looking at him in depth.
A bunch of SLs posts seem like they could come from either alignment. The stuff that stands out to me is his TR of Shape because of Shapes earlier cop joke. SL made a post (#471) that indicates to me he knows it was a joke. The "I'll make mafia believe the claim and get Shape shot" bit makes me think he wasn't taking it as a real claim, and he even commented on Shapes grammar cop post. Then he goes on to say that mafia Shape never claims cop like that because he can't back out of it. Not only is it not at all true that mafia!shape would ever do that but it only makes sense if it were a real claim.
#687 - seems odd to me that SL expected himself to be lynched. Usually he has a lot of fight in him and claims he can't be lynched
#704 - feels like he is just adding shade to Gell with HF's pressure. Saying Gell isn't a newb and suggesting he might have a meta of making list posts feels off. The former suggests SL has experience with Gell but the latter is the opposite.
#705 - First mention of NU. Calls him out for pushing lynch bait LS and for calling SL scum. Kinda late to pickup the LS point so seems more of a OMGUS reaction. Kinda in line with Koshi's point about SL bussing.
#754 - straight up lie, SL never mentioned NU till after NU said stuff about him. Kinda wish I could check the timeline better but this is hard enough on a phone already.
#756 - a bit odd he says "maybe Emp" in his mafia list when he hadn't mentioned him before and had literally just agreed with Emps post where he voted NU
After that there wasn't really anything else D1. SL leaves a vote on NU, makes like 4 posts calling Onegu town for trying so hard, and that's it.
During the night SL called darth scum, didn't follow through looking for NU spew, and wants towncred for "finding scum" and "AFK voting scum". The last part would be fine expect for him basically sleeping Emp then calling him mafia in the next post.
Then suddenly today SL's posting is dramatically different and he's putting way too much stock into a really bad townread on Shape and not really evaluating Darth very well, just narrowly focusing on a few points.
TBH I could still see a lot of this coming from town!SL, but I am really starting to think he is mafia here.
On the the other hand these are all great observation. I started reading this post ready to be super critical about it but everything is fucking true - sicklucker's NU handling is fuckign weird in particular. Saying to him "you can die first", then saying to EC "yeah I can get behind a NU vote" (he's already said he's scumreading him ?) THEN calling EC maybe scum when EC main target was NU is super weird. Gonna quote it: Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 08:30 sicklucker wrote:On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.
Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons. Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced. Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt. Look at his entry: On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened. He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness. That looks forced. going after ls the ultimate lynchbait and getting mad about town circles. Then he just backs off it. then he attacks sicklucker on day one for no reason. he can die first so far Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 16:00 sicklucker wrote:On November 30 2016 14:05 emperorchampion wrote:
I remain pretty unconvinced by NU's last post.
##vote: NeverUnlucky ya i can get behind this. his reasons for scum reading me seem super made up after I called him out for scum reading people for no reason Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 16:02 sicklucker wrote:
pretty sure I cant be scum since everyone whos likely scum thinks im scum.
Darthfoley
mahgr
never
maybe emp On December 03 2016 10:02 Rels wrote:
+ SL knows he's often scumread on D1, as town or scum for that matter, I dunno if he would think "all the likley scum thinks I'm scum" as town. SL can you expand on this thought too please On December 03 2016 10:54 Rels wrote:I find this TMI convincing actually, it might be a scumslip if it's confirmed that we're setup 3. SL really used the word "jailkeeped" for no reason Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 18:46 sicklucker wrote:On December 02 2016 16:36 darthfoley wrote:On December 02 2016 16:22 emperorchampion wrote:On December 02 2016 16:14 Holyflare wrote:
Also, df is 100% town. There's no way I basically claim blue like 6 times and he doesn't kill me over koshi. These would have killed you, wouldn't have killed you arguments are silly. Filter padding at it's finest. Don't think this applies to my case. HF blue claimed like 5 times and I spotted it instantly. He would've been my NK 1000%. Surprised no one else seemed to catch on to this trend. (i'm aware it's wifom) On November 30 2016 16:29 Holyflare wrote:
You shouldn't lynch me. On December 01 2016 19:06 Holyflare wrote:
Mafia gotta kill me. Dis gonna be good. On December 02 2016 00:23 Holyflare wrote:
Mafia have to shoot me. It's super obvious what I am. On December 02 2016 05:02 Holyflare wrote:
You should all be town reading me. Dunno why I'm not top, pretty obvious what I am. Killing HF is a good medic dodge cuz people were sus of him and he claimed blue. I know it's WIFOM but why wouldn't you take the chance as mafia? hf is not a medic dodge... hf is a fucking amazing n1 kill and he was probably jailkeeped last night rofl. Proof that hf was jailkeeped last night? koshi died and no one else was really worth using it on. So your entire arguments are dumb because CLEARLY HF IS NOT A GOOD MEDIC DODGE. CLEARLY HE WAS THE FUCKING SAVE LAST NIGHT On December 03 2016 20:50 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 15:20 sicklucker wrote:On December 03 2016 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:On December 03 2016 05:53 darthfoley wrote:
Still waiting on those Shapelog reads my reads are still my dat one reads since he has not really posted since... Its kind of your guys job to know it. I still think hes fucking town because of his cop stuff. Something a mafia would never do. That read still stands to this day because theres no reason to freakin change it. This doesn't make sense. This is a forced read. This amkes me think very much of Skynx' ExO read last game, where scum!Skynx just decided to townread town!ExO (exo was super scummy and was lynched D1) for bad reasons that he couldn't properly explain. The cop stuff is NAI in my opinion. And if we admit it could be townie, it's not something that should go against everything else SHape has done. On December 03 2016 20:53 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 15:31 sicklucker wrote:
and rels you find it weird that I vote with someone I think is maybe scumat the time emp?? on someone im like 90% sure is scum and at the top of my list?
I didnt really even think emp was likely mafia more null I just had alot of town reads at the time out of the people who were posting. alot of people had not posted at that time .
I was town reading koshi/hf/onegu/ls/shapelog everyone else who was posting pretty much except for that person so I just through in a "maybe" instead of a fucking null category Nope. The two scummy things were your "I could get behind a NU lynch" in reaction to EC making a post on NU, when you ALREADY scumread him; and you null/scumreading EC when he made the same points than you on NU but deeper. In addition I don't believe you think people scumreading you makes you town, you know a lot of people scumread you D1 as town. On December 03 2016 20:56 Rels wrote:
Another thing on SL is that he had ZERO town spree, like he usually does in 100% of his town games. When he finds that one stupid (or sometimes crazily good) thing and tunnel on it for posts and posts.
Thinking on voting SL over Shape. We'll see what Shape does when he goes back. On December 03 2016 22:56 Rels wrote:
That sl omgus.
Explain very clearly why shape would not claim cop at the start of the game as scum and how it makes him 100% town, you don't even need to read anything else On December 03 2016 23:41 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 23:06 sicklucker wrote:On December 03 2016 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sure I remember someone saying Shapelog has fake claimed before anyway? I personaly have not but thats not even what happened here. he tried to take a role bullit imo... poorly... Something which you did as well and I dont understand how you cant see it This doesn't make sense. You read is set in stone for an extremely weak reason and instead of seeing it hand adapting it you're defending it On December 04 2016 04:27 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2016 02:10 sicklucker wrote:
Emp
HolyFlare
huge drop
Ls
Mahr
onegu
shapelog
Ticktock
checkm8??? who
Rels
Darthfole
about where im at. Maybe rels was a bit omgus but fuck that guy. his read looked super forced and oputunistic
"Opportunistic" is the easiest word to use when you wanna throw fake suspicion to someone. Your shape read STILL doesn't make sense. Have you even read his filter ? He's the goddamn lynch right now and you don't think he's scum - at least you think there are 4 people scummier than him. Why ? You just admited your "he wouldn't claim cop" BS doesn't hold, why is he townier than TT C8 DF and I ? And to add to that, I find very suspicious that you wouldn't fight against a lynch you don't believe in, especially since I know you can do exactly that as town. On December 04 2016 04:28 Rels wrote:
Your shape read is exactly what Skynx did last game. You just decided he was town for this reason, but your read is not evolving, you're not re evaluating or using any other posts of it - hell you don't even show that you read his filter. ----------------------------- On December 02 2016 19:50 Holyflare wrote:
Player list:
3. Shapelog
8. Checkm8
This is my real list:
Town
Emperor
Darthfoley
Town looking but wouldn't be surprised if they're mafia
Ma gurl
Ticktock (i have no idea how you're here when i want to lynch you normally every game. If you're mafia I'll have a good metric of lynching you when I think you're town to follow)
LightningStrike (purely for pushing correct looking stuff but tinfoil)
Null
Rels (lots of reasons to town read him, lots of reasons to mafia read him)
Onegu (hesitation because of hard town read on me day 1, not much content, also absent now)
Sicklucker (dunno he just says words but town reads me and town reads shapelog??? Too weird)
Mafia
Shapelog (His cop thing looked really mafia forced, his return is crap, no reads, mire concerned with insulting my previous game than posting read, angry at weird times, looking at things the wrong way and in ways I've never seen a town person look)
Checkb8 (?????)
On December 02 2016 21:47 Holyflare wrote:
We vote off Shapelog today, guaranteed.
Sicklucker needs to explain his df and shape reads too On December 03 2016 20:20 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh I'd definitely lynch sl if shape wasn't blatantly burnt out mafia giving up after his last defence. On December 03 2016 22:21 Holyflare wrote:
Sl is uncharacteristically angry/annoyed this game On December 03 2016 23:08 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 23:06 sicklucker wrote:On December 03 2016 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sure I remember someone saying Shapelog has fake claimed before anyway? I personaly have not but thats not even what happened here. he tried to take a role bullit imo... poorly... Something which you did as well and I dont understand how you cant see it I do it every game and shape does not and has done it as mafia. Sooooooooooo. On December 03 2016 23:10 Holyflare wrote:
Like the dude literally has 0 reads despite saying he's caught up and then just fucked off when he saw nobody reacted well.
If he's town you're definitely dying dude. On December 04 2016 00:02 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 23:41 sicklucker wrote:
not all reads are made on meta. If shapelog does that as mafai then hes bad and should feel bad. but i doubt it This is so full of crap wtf? You just got told he does something as mafia and you're staying resolute that he's town when your only reason has gone? On December 04 2016 00:29 Holyflare wrote:
Yes I just told you about it and your reply was that he's still town because of it you loon.
I asked about D3 behavior. You call it BS, I ask for details, and you really send me 50 quotes with none being even posted on D3? Of course in everyones filter there are a billion posts calling SL out earlier.
Like seriously?
Like I feel I really should not defend SL here, because I can see him both alignments...
But I wish people could read.
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On December 06 2016 01:51 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2016 01:19 Holyflare wrote:On December 05 2016 20:56 Holyflare wrote:
Only one to claim jk at night is sl. Sl isn't dead. Mafia can't alter kill in silent period. Everyone believed sl, no reason whatsoever for him to be alive.
Sl literally said he tmid and rels caught him out.
Mafia had no reason not to nk sl unless sl is mafia. If SL is vt he claimed fake tmi because....? And then didn't die despite mafia knowing the setup is a jail keeper setup and sl showing tmi. If SL is mafia he knew the setup and TMId and then didn't die because he's mafia. It seemed way more believable if I "slipped" Theres no evidence mafia knows the setup
You seem to have miss that the scum knew the setup from the moment the cop died, since it was only possible that it was setup 1 or setup 3, and that the scum setup are different between the two.
SO you prepared a plan by doing a fake slip, without checking that scum couldn't know the setup.
lol
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On December 05 2016 18:19 Rels wrote:
HF is so clueless about the claims it really cements my townread on him
lol agreed
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still hf is really wrong about everything this game including emp being scum
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On December 06 2016 01:54 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2016 01:33 Rels wrote:On December 06 2016 01:24 mahrgell wrote:On December 06 2016 01:07 Rels wrote:On December 06 2016 01:03 mahrgell wrote:
Hey thats great... Why are you now copying my arguments? Are you suddenly sheeping me?
So far all you ever blamed SL for was that he should not have survived (when half the thread including you propagated the idea that he may be town, but not JK)
You never once mentioned his D3 behaviour. It was only me who did.
The last sentence is also pretty untrue - at least hf and I had multiple posts about SL yesterday. Not finding those. + Show Spoiler +On December 03 2016 10:00 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 14:35 Tictock wrote:
Let's see if I can manage a filter dive. I've got an idea how I can do this but I won't be able to quote shit since I'm phone posting so bear with me a bit.
Gunna look at SL since his recent posts give me the heebies and I want to see what Shape has got for us before looking at him in depth.
A bunch of SLs posts seem like they could come from either alignment. The stuff that stands out to me is his TR of Shape because of Shapes earlier cop joke. SL made a post (#471) that indicates to me he knows it was a joke. The "I'll make mafia believe the claim and get Shape shot" bit makes me think he wasn't taking it as a real claim, and he even commented on Shapes grammar cop post. Then he goes on to say that mafia Shape never claims cop like that because he can't back out of it. Not only is it not at all true that mafia!shape would ever do that but it only makes sense if it were a real claim.
#687 - seems odd to me that SL expected himself to be lynched. Usually he has a lot of fight in him and claims he can't be lynched
#704 - feels like he is just adding shade to Gell with HF's pressure. Saying Gell isn't a newb and suggesting he might have a meta of making list posts feels off. The former suggests SL has experience with Gell but the latter is the opposite.
#705 - First mention of NU. Calls him out for pushing lynch bait LS and for calling SL scum. Kinda late to pickup the LS point so seems more of a OMGUS reaction. Kinda in line with Koshi's point about SL bussing.
#754 - straight up lie, SL never mentioned NU till after NU said stuff about him. Kinda wish I could check the timeline better but this is hard enough on a phone already.
#756 - a bit odd he says "maybe Emp" in his mafia list when he hadn't mentioned him before and had literally just agreed with Emps post where he voted NU
After that there wasn't really anything else D1. SL leaves a vote on NU, makes like 4 posts calling Onegu town for trying so hard, and that's it.
During the night SL called darth scum, didn't follow through looking for NU spew, and wants towncred for "finding scum" and "AFK voting scum". The last part would be fine expect for him basically sleeping Emp then calling him mafia in the next post.
Then suddenly today SL's posting is dramatically different and he's putting way too much stock into a really bad townread on Shape and not really evaluating Darth very well, just narrowly focusing on a few points.
TBH I could still see a lot of this coming from town!SL, but I am really starting to think he is mafia here.
On the the other hand these are all great observation. I started reading this post ready to be super critical about it but everything is fucking true - sicklucker's NU handling is fuckign weird in particular. Saying to him "you can die first", then saying to EC "yeah I can get behind a NU vote" (he's already said he's scumreading him ?) THEN calling EC maybe scum when EC main target was NU is super weird. Gonna quote it: Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 08:30 sicklucker wrote:On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.
Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons. Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced. Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt. Look at his entry: On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened. He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness. That looks forced. going after ls the ultimate lynchbait and getting mad about town circles. Then he just backs off it. then he attacks sicklucker on day one for no reason. he can die first so far Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 16:00 sicklucker wrote:On November 30 2016 14:05 emperorchampion wrote:
I remain pretty unconvinced by NU's last post.
##vote: NeverUnlucky ya i can get behind this. his reasons for scum reading me seem super made up after I called him out for scum reading people for no reason Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 16:02 sicklucker wrote:
pretty sure I cant be scum since everyone whos likely scum thinks im scum.
Darthfoley
mahgr
never
maybe emp On December 03 2016 10:02 Rels wrote:
+ SL knows he's often scumread on D1, as town or scum for that matter, I dunno if he would think "all the likley scum thinks I'm scum" as town. SL can you expand on this thought too please On December 03 2016 10:54 Rels wrote:I find this TMI convincing actually, it might be a scumslip if it's confirmed that we're setup 3. SL really used the word "jailkeeped" for no reason Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 18:46 sicklucker wrote:On December 02 2016 16:36 darthfoley wrote:On December 02 2016 16:22 emperorchampion wrote:On December 02 2016 16:14 Holyflare wrote:
Also, df is 100% town. There's no way I basically claim blue like 6 times and he doesn't kill me over koshi. These would have killed you, wouldn't have killed you arguments are silly. Filter padding at it's finest. Don't think this applies to my case. HF blue claimed like 5 times and I spotted it instantly. He would've been my NK 1000%. Surprised no one else seemed to catch on to this trend. (i'm aware it's wifom) On November 30 2016 16:29 Holyflare wrote:
You shouldn't lynch me. On December 01 2016 19:06 Holyflare wrote:
Mafia gotta kill me. Dis gonna be good. On December 02 2016 00:23 Holyflare wrote:
Mafia have to shoot me. It's super obvious what I am. On December 02 2016 05:02 Holyflare wrote:
You should all be town reading me. Dunno why I'm not top, pretty obvious what I am. Killing HF is a good medic dodge cuz people were sus of him and he claimed blue. I know it's WIFOM but why wouldn't you take the chance as mafia? hf is not a medic dodge... hf is a fucking amazing n1 kill and he was probably jailkeeped last night rofl. Proof that hf was jailkeeped last night? koshi died and no one else was really worth using it on. So your entire arguments are dumb because CLEARLY HF IS NOT A GOOD MEDIC DODGE. CLEARLY HE WAS THE FUCKING SAVE LAST NIGHT On December 03 2016 20:50 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 15:20 sicklucker wrote:On December 03 2016 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:On December 03 2016 05:53 darthfoley wrote:
Still waiting on those Shapelog reads my reads are still my dat one reads since he has not really posted since... Its kind of your guys job to know it. I still think hes fucking town because of his cop stuff. Something a mafia would never do. That read still stands to this day because theres no reason to freakin change it. This doesn't make sense. This is a forced read. This amkes me think very much of Skynx' ExO read last game, where scum!Skynx just decided to townread town!ExO (exo was super scummy and was lynched D1) for bad reasons that he couldn't properly explain. The cop stuff is NAI in my opinion. And if we admit it could be townie, it's not something that should go against everything else SHape has done. On December 03 2016 20:53 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 15:31 sicklucker wrote:
and rels you find it weird that I vote with someone I think is maybe scumat the time emp?? on someone im like 90% sure is scum and at the top of my list?
I didnt really even think emp was likely mafia more null I just had alot of town reads at the time out of the people who were posting. alot of people had not posted at that time .
I was town reading koshi/hf/onegu/ls/shapelog everyone else who was posting pretty much except for that person so I just through in a "maybe" instead of a fucking null category Nope. The two scummy things were your "I could get behind a NU lynch" in reaction to EC making a post on NU, when you ALREADY scumread him; and you null/scumreading EC when he made the same points than you on NU but deeper. In addition I don't believe you think people scumreading you makes you town, you know a lot of people scumread you D1 as town. On December 03 2016 20:56 Rels wrote:
Another thing on SL is that he had ZERO town spree, like he usually does in 100% of his town games. When he finds that one stupid (or sometimes crazily good) thing and tunnel on it for posts and posts.
Thinking on voting SL over Shape. We'll see what Shape does when he goes back. On December 03 2016 22:56 Rels wrote:
That sl omgus.
Explain very clearly why shape would not claim cop at the start of the game as scum and how it makes him 100% town, you don't even need to read anything else On December 03 2016 23:41 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 23:06 sicklucker wrote:On December 03 2016 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sure I remember someone saying Shapelog has fake claimed before anyway? I personaly have not but thats not even what happened here. he tried to take a role bullit imo... poorly... Something which you did as well and I dont understand how you cant see it This doesn't make sense. You read is set in stone for an extremely weak reason and instead of seeing it hand adapting it you're defending it On December 04 2016 04:27 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2016 02:10 sicklucker wrote:
Emp
HolyFlare
huge drop
Ls
Mahr
onegu
shapelog
Ticktock
checkm8??? who
Rels
Darthfole
about where im at. Maybe rels was a bit omgus but fuck that guy. his read looked super forced and oputunistic
"Opportunistic" is the easiest word to use when you wanna throw fake suspicion to someone. Your shape read STILL doesn't make sense. Have you even read his filter ? He's the goddamn lynch right now and you don't think he's scum - at least you think there are 4 people scummier than him. Why ? You just admited your "he wouldn't claim cop" BS doesn't hold, why is he townier than TT C8 DF and I ? And to add to that, I find very suspicious that you wouldn't fight against a lynch you don't believe in, especially since I know you can do exactly that as town. On December 04 2016 04:28 Rels wrote:
Your shape read is exactly what Skynx did last game. You just decided he was town for this reason, but your read is not evolving, you're not re evaluating or using any other posts of it - hell you don't even show that you read his filter. ----------------------------- On December 02 2016 19:50 Holyflare wrote:
Player list:
3. Shapelog
8. Checkm8
This is my real list:
Town
Emperor
Darthfoley
Town looking but wouldn't be surprised if they're mafia
Ma gurl
Ticktock (i have no idea how you're here when i want to lynch you normally every game. If you're mafia I'll have a good metric of lynching you when I think you're town to follow)
LightningStrike (purely for pushing correct looking stuff but tinfoil)
Null
Rels (lots of reasons to town read him, lots of reasons to mafia read him)
Onegu (hesitation because of hard town read on me day 1, not much content, also absent now)
Sicklucker (dunno he just says words but town reads me and town reads shapelog??? Too weird)
Mafia
Shapelog (His cop thing looked really mafia forced, his return is crap, no reads, mire concerned with insulting my previous game than posting read, angry at weird times, looking at things the wrong way and in ways I've never seen a town person look)
Checkb8 (?????)
On December 02 2016 21:47 Holyflare wrote:
We vote off Shapelog today, guaranteed.
Sicklucker needs to explain his df and shape reads too On December 03 2016 20:20 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh I'd definitely lynch sl if shape wasn't blatantly burnt out mafia giving up after his last defence. On December 03 2016 22:21 Holyflare wrote:
Sl is uncharacteristically angry/annoyed this game On December 03 2016 23:08 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 23:06 sicklucker wrote:On December 03 2016 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sure I remember someone saying Shapelog has fake claimed before anyway? I personaly have not but thats not even what happened here. he tried to take a role bullit imo... poorly... Something which you did as well and I dont understand how you cant see it I do it every game and shape does not and has done it as mafia. Sooooooooooo. On December 03 2016 23:10 Holyflare wrote:
Like the dude literally has 0 reads despite saying he's caught up and then just fucked off when he saw nobody reacted well.
If he's town you're definitely dying dude. On December 04 2016 00:02 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 23:41 sicklucker wrote:
not all reads are made on meta. If shapelog does that as mafai then hes bad and should feel bad. but i doubt it This is so full of crap wtf? You just got told he does something as mafia and you're staying resolute that he's town when your only reason has gone? On December 04 2016 00:29 Holyflare wrote:
Yes I just told you about it and your reply was that he's still town because of it you loon. I asked about D3 behavior. You call it BS, I ask for details, and you really send me 50 quotes with none being even posted on D3? Of course in everyones filter there are a billion posts calling SL out earlier. Like seriously? Like I feel I really should not defend SL here, because I can see him both alignments... But I wish people could read.
Oh you're talking about today ? Why do you mean then by "mentionning SL D3 behaviour" ? He had only one post when you said that
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mmmm nothing like a good shitty case on me to bring out the remaining scum in this game. Please continue HF
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On December 05 2016 20:20 Rels wrote:
marhgell, the probability that SL fakeclaimed at night is like 0.01%; it's low to begin with, but here he posted after the night ended and didn't rescind his claim, which is the first thing he would have done as town.
its insanely high when town is bad and obviously looking to lynch me =]
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gotta defend that no mislynch record you know?
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