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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 05 2016 11:21 GMT
#2041
fakeclaimed as town* at night
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 05 2016 11:24 GMT
#2042
He's either jk or mafia. Never vt
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 05 2016 11:25 GMT
#2043
Who gives a shit anyway. Just go through emperor posts instead.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
December 05 2016 11:27 GMT
#2044
On December 05 2016 20:17 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2016 20:11 mahrgell wrote:
Rels play doesn't make any sense to me if he is the JK (regardless of where the submission deadline is, which I believed to be at beginning of silence period too).

Why ?


I said this earlier:
- there is no point in claiming before EoN. You dying would have been the ultimate freak accident. You could have claimed after EoN
- i you really thought you die, those blocks were not really telling much. They are not conclusive to anything. Somehow everyone seems to believe HF was blockworthy N1... Then if he is scum, he certainly won't carry there. The N2 block somehow rules out a SL/HF team, I guess... Not sure here.
- if you thought you would die... why not drop reads? ANYTHING? Saying you had nothing to say is just... meh.
- your continuation on how you could confirm guys all the rest of the game again reminds me of your N2. The idea collapses the moment you really try to go that way. If you are not scum, you are dead next night unless you block scum. So you get exactly ONE chance. Thats it. And no, this is not making the game easy.

Seriously, there is exactly one reason to believe you right now. And this is the lack of CC.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 05 2016 11:27 GMT
#2045
I also think it's hilarious you saying emp is trying to solve the game when his questions are largely pointless.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 05 2016 11:29 GMT
#2046
Rels not under suspicion, rels fake claims???

What's the need for a trade?
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
December 05 2016 11:29 GMT
#2047
On December 05 2016 20:20 Rels wrote:
marhgell, the probability that SL fakeclaimed at night is like 0.01%; it's low to begin with, but here he posted after the night ended and didn't rescind his claim, which is the first thing he would have done as town.


You are really making me hate you right now.
If he is VT, fakeclaiming... Then for sure as hell he will not rescind his claim at day AFTER you claimed.
VT fakeclaiming will rescind when there is no CC. But when there is a CC, he basically has to go with it... And somehow hope scum is confused with the number of options.
This was basically my reasoning on why I was willing to drop the discussion... But well... yeah, by now even the last scum has probably figured this shit out.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
December 05 2016 11:31 GMT
#2048
On December 05 2016 20:25 Holyflare wrote:
Who gives a shit anyway. Just go through emperor posts instead.


I will do that at the evening... Originally just wanted to drop in, got stuck here longer than I actually wanted...

In the meantime tell me why TT is town ^.^
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 05 2016 11:36 GMT
#2049
Because sl is mafia and emperor is mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 05 2016 11:37 GMT
#2050
I don't believe you're so hung up on SL's tmi yesterday and now you've completely forgotten about it and think he might be vt.

Did that tmi just vanish?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 05 2016 11:45 GMT
#2051
On December 05 2016 20:27 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2016 20:17 Rels wrote:
On December 05 2016 20:11 mahrgell wrote:
Rels play doesn't make any sense to me if he is the JK (regardless of where the submission deadline is, which I believed to be at beginning of silence period too).

Why ?


I said this earlier:
- there is no point in claiming before EoN. You dying would have been the ultimate freak accident. You could have claimed after EoN
- i you really thought you die, those blocks were not really telling much. They are not conclusive to anything. Somehow everyone seems to believe HF was blockworthy N1... Then if he is scum, he certainly won't carry there. The N2 block somehow rules out a SL/HF team, I guess... Not sure here.
- if you thought you would die... why not drop reads? ANYTHING? Saying you had nothing to say is just... meh.
- your continuation on how you could confirm guys all the rest of the game again reminds me of your N2. The idea collapses the moment you really try to go that way. If you are not scum, you are dead next night unless you block scum. So you get exactly ONE chance. Thats it. And no, this is not making the game easy.

Seriously, there is exactly one reason to believe you right now. And this is the lack of CC.

You're really tunneled mate. p: Let's try once again :
- I'm gonna cc today no matter what
- Since I'm gonna cc, the best thing is to do it JUST BEFORE the end of night, because:
==> there is no cons to do it that way, since scum can't react to the cc
==> there is a pro: if for some reason I die (and, I undersatnd if you don't pbelieve it seeing my play these last two games, but I'm night killed quite often: click "Profile" for proof), my targets are in the thread
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 05 2016 11:47 GMT
#2052
On December 05 2016 20:29 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2016 20:20 Rels wrote:
marhgell, the probability that SL fakeclaimed at night is like 0.01%; it's low to begin with, but here he posted after the night ended and didn't rescind his claim, which is the first thing he would have done as town.


You are really making me hate you right now.
If he is VT, fakeclaiming... Then for sure as hell he will not rescind his claim at day AFTER you claimed.
VT fakeclaiming will rescind when there is no CC. But when there is a CC, he basically has to go with it... And somehow hope scum is confused with the number of options.
This was basically my reasoning on why I was willing to drop the discussion... But well... yeah, by now even the last scum has probably figured this shit out.

You're not thinking logically. You gotta read this: IF SICKLUCKER IS TOWN AND FAKECLAIMING TO DRAW A BULLET HE WILL RESCIND IF HE S COUNTERCLAIMED DURING THE DAY.
Why would he not ? Why would he try to get me lynched when he KNOWS I'm the Jailkeeper ? Your reasonning doesn't make any sense
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 05 2016 11:56 GMT
#2053
HF I see very well why EC could be mafia, but I have a problem with this stream of posts when he previously townread NU ; I think it is a weird interaction if they're partner
On December 05 2016 18:25 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2016 18:07 Holyflare wrote:
Just read through his filter from top to bottom.

It's literally NU is suspicious but then doesn't want to push him.

NU is town for 0 reasons, throw shade on people calling out NU.

Calls NU town but when someone scum reads him he meekly says "yeh he's probably suspicious!"

On November 30 2016 02:22 emperorchampion wrote:
NU probably town. LS don't really like trying to set up mafia between NU and I. TT haven't really liked from the get go. mahrgell's got this mix of above average content, lots of questions, pressure on incorrect target that's raising some flags for me. That's where I'm at right now. There are a ton of questions for me that I may answer at some point, largely related to NU I imagine, but that guy is town for now.


Shade throwing.

On November 30 2016 03:03 emperorchampion wrote:
Is NU a newer player? Seems to not handle the pressure well at all. Could be angry town vibes? One thing I registered: don't recall who Koshi called out for "being rude / not talking well to other townies", no mention of NU though. Guys an ass right now. These two things could be something, but I'm not sure it's the right direction at the moment.

Let's keep it going y'all!


This post doesn't say anything other than dropping hat into suspicion ring while still town reading.
On November 30 2016 03:38 emperorchampion wrote:
@Koshi:

1. Rels
2. Holyflare
4. Onegu
8. Checkm8
11. sicklucker
12. Tictock

Maybe only 1 of sl and c8? Waiting for c8 since I have something I'm curious about.


Literally next post, no mention of NU.

I don't have time for the rest. His filter is entirely nu. He's not dead over ls. His filter on nu is so "I don't want to lynch my partner-y" it hurts.

##vote emperor

Ticktock push from him may just be him not wanting to vote a towny that he cased off and getting suspicion his way so much safer vote. Please read this filter it's not natural in the slightest.


LOL weren't you one of the dudes that gave me shit when I thought NU/EC were MvM.
I had this thoughts too reading it from NU side but EC posts made me doubt, gonna find why. It was when he was back to townreading him, but then atatacked him again.
This spree of posts:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 12:52 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.



This post is not natural to me.
1) No mention of c8 when he actually makes quoted post (2). After quoted post (1) comes out, NU goes to reference it.
2) Makes me think NU was filtering c8 looking for something that looks bad to push him on it.

Thoughts?

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 12:53 emperorchampion wrote:
@NU, to answer a previous question: started thinking you were looking pretty bad, went to thinking you were OK and should maybe be left alone, now back to looking pretty bad.

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 13:01 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 30 2016 12:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 30 2016 12:52 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.



This post is not natural to me.
1) No mention of c8 when he actually makes quoted post (2). After quoted post (1) comes out, NU goes to reference it.
2) Makes me think NU was filtering c8 looking for something that looks bad to push him on it.

Thoughts?

I don't quite understand 1) :3 But I did not filter checkm8 when I did that post. The first quote was directly directed to me, so it was fresh in my mind, and the second one was made while I was online, so I made the connection.

On November 30 2016 12:53 emperorchampion wrote:
@NU, to answer a previous question: started thinking you were looking pretty bad, went to thinking you were OK and should maybe be left alone, now back to looking pretty bad.

Yeh, I figured that, I was asking why that is.


Well at the moment I don't really understand where in the game you're at.

So where are you at?

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 13:04 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 30 2016 13:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 30 2016 13:01 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 30 2016 12:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 30 2016 12:52 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.



This post is not natural to me.
1) No mention of c8 when he actually makes quoted post (2). After quoted post (1) comes out, NU goes to reference it.
2) Makes me think NU was filtering c8 looking for something that looks bad to push him on it.

Thoughts?

I don't quite understand 1) :3 But I did not filter checkm8 when I did that post. The first quote was directly directed to me, so it was fresh in my mind, and the second one was made while I was online, so I made the connection.

On November 30 2016 12:53 emperorchampion wrote:
@NU, to answer a previous question: started thinking you were looking pretty bad, went to thinking you were OK and should maybe be left alone, now back to looking pretty bad.

Yeh, I figured that, I was asking why that is.


Well at the moment I don't really understand where in the game you're at.

So where are you at?

I'm up to date, I was thinking of filtering SL before heading to bed (in 15-20 minutes).


Who is town for you, and who is mafia for you?

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 14:05 emperorchampion wrote:
I remain pretty unconvinced by NU's last post.

##vote: NeverUnlucky


Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 05 2016 11:56 GMT
#2054
Only one to claim jk at night is sl. Sl isn't dead. Mafia can't alter kill in silent period. Everyone believed sl, no reason whatsoever for him to be alive.

Sl literally said he tmid and rels caught him out.

Mafia had no reason not to nk sl unless sl is mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 05 2016 11:58 GMT
#2055
Can mahr be mafia? I think it's emp but the amount of stubborn bs reads that margo has said is reaching new levels.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 05 2016 12:04 GMT
#2056
On December 05 2016 20:58 Holyflare wrote:
Can mahr be mafia? I think it's emp but the amount of stubborn bs reads that margo has said is reaching new levels.

I don't know, I feel like scum would analyze the situation better. Why would he put himself in a world where SL is town fakeclaiming ? It doesn't leave him any option since SL didn't rescind.
I think this is confused town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 05 2016 12:06 GMT
#2057
On November 29 2016 09:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

How so? I recognize myself in his all-over-the-place posts, and he's the townierest dude itt.

Also, this is a town post, mang
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:23 Onegu wrote:
Where is everyone?

I can't belive this post ever comes from a Onegu partner.
Koshi wasn't even asking the question to NU, it was to TT. NU forced himself into this conversation to say that Onegu was the towniest dude. This is the definition of white knighting.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 05 2016 12:14 GMT
#2058
I feel like TT townreading me all game and HF all game until yesterday is weird for the tinfoil master.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 05 2016 12:16 GMT
#2059
On November 29 2016 10:27 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Tictock feels less interested in the game than usual. :/ At least that's what his filter makes me think.

(Also, he is found twice in the player list on page 1 while Onegu doesn't figure there)

I thought that it was a super town spew at some point. But maybe I was wrong. I can actually see NU doing that to his partner TT to "scumlean" him while having an out when TT comes back
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 05 2016 12:32 GMT
#2060
On November 29 2016 13:03 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 09:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:46 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 28 2016 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey guys I here now I was busy and now I here what up?

Bam this was me as scum doing that sort of thing Onegu did the quote you townread him for.

Ehhhh, not quite the same vibe.

Your quoted post's tone is what makes it fucking mafia. You're acting all nicey-nice with the "Hey guys" and "what up" and giving an excuse for why you weren't there with the busy part. Onegu's post is not that. I don't think mafia would have made this post this early cus they would profit from inactivity and do not care about it.

Also, no, I have not read any of your games.

Flagged this post as well.

1) Activity will happen whether or not mafia wants it to, therefore it's null imo.
2) LS doing this "Hey town read me for this thing you town read someone else for" reminds me of things that I've said when I'm scum. Suspicious!


In this post, 1) is suspicion thrown at NU and 2) is suspicion thrown at LS correct ?
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