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NocturneMage
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someone bring back LoL mafia /troll /replace on a serious note I'm not sure I want to know how cancer heroes like silencer/pl will play out. onegu/hts, you actually want to keep people around this community right?  could you imagine a silencer pulling global ultimate and roleblocking the entire game? lame. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On October 06 2016 07:23 NeverUnlucky wrote: Off-Topic: Try to stay on-topic while playing  How enforced is this rule? :3 iirc you have to be going on about sc2 for like 2 pages or something....like it has to be pretty bad. also you can get warned for spam if you post excessively in a short amount of time. tried to shit up the thread once as mafia and cohost scumformation was none too pleased with me. think I posed 8-9 posts in like 2 minutes or something. tbf it was a bit much. edit: he will always be scumformation to me | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
mods need to make sure I replace into a caster slot on a serious note, acrofales, I asked hts the same question re xp, and she deferred, hosts are probably fine tuning that but that's my guess. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
would have lynched fidei last game I had with him...except we were both mafia xD edit: fuck of course she's cohosting....somewhere out there, there's a wild fidei lurking... | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
also I'm town here, only on page 20, but I will do the best I can with reads. also I have a tiny bit of knowledge on dota, mainly prefer league though. the champion I have I have never played, but she is dire, IDK if that helps anyone. skimmed through eod, I felt like koshi pulled some palmar-esque bullshit the way that was done in star wars, just said whatever to stay alive, but lemme read through filters completely before I also make full judgement. also from eod alone beentheredonethat seemingly wants to lynch koshi full out and then gives a wifomy reason at best and reading from 83 onwards the sequence makes no sense. that was just weird to me. in any case let me read from the beginning to get a full picture and I'll get some scum reads as soon as possible. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
lost 5hp here for whatever it is worth. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
typically read the thread in order here first so.... | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On October 22 2016 07:30 Koshi wrote: Took 12 damage. Hi NM. I am town this game. you were the counterwagon, the leading counterwagon. we know tictock flipped town. if you are town, tell me who the mafia are, on your wagon and why. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On October 22 2016 07:36 Koshi wrote: I would be surprised there are multiple mafia on me. I look like shit so mafia is happy to leave me alive. seriously? first you didn't name anyone on your wagon (or explain an alternative) second your latter explanation is just the opposite I would expect. I didn't even read the thread save for the final comments on possibly shennanies on you and if you looked like shit, mafia would have been happy to get an "easy" (clean) mislynch on you. if you are town, you'd be in the best position to tell whom on either/both wagons didn't give a shit about the lynch or was making opportunistic arguments on you, which is what happens when the top two wagons are both town. honestly would think you are the calibre of player to be able to do this. underwhelming. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
fwiw | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
at all. someone want to point to me either the case on him or a tldr why the wagon formed on him that it did? also notice that beenthere and tubesock switched between the two wagons, just an interesting fact... page 26, got distracted by a few filters, unfortunately am a fairly slow reader. | ||
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On October 22 2016 08:29 sicklucker wrote: Koshi was pissing people off and didnt really care about the game. Kind of somewhat standard koshi but he rolled mafia 3 or so games inarow so I would have expected him to try as town in a fun game like this. this is also how he was when I played against him in star wars minus the pissing people off part, but I haven't played against him in awhile, still good to know. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
hopeless him defending or not defending himself at end of cycle doesn't make him any more or less town unless you want to demonstrate meta. some townies/mafia give up, some will defend themselves under lynch with fire pressure. so far early reading I'm getting good vibes so far from ritoky (questioning suspicious townreads), acrofales, wave of shade is also okay-ish beenthere's early thoughts on koshi look okay to me, but his sicklucker scumread (will look for context) looks disjointed - no explanation and I don't understand the IAMP scumread either, guess I'll double check those interactions to see if I missed anything. koshi does look underwhelming early on though. skynx is also disjointed, and more specifically looking at his filter I don't like how he doesn't appear to follow up on his tubesock and bill murray reads when in his big list post he's showing he's the most stuck on them. generally lack of follow-through is mafia indicative. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On one hand he's calling holyflare mafia with no explanation other than opportunism but then we have luna/hf both pushing each other. same time though, lunaticman points out this discrepancy though.... On October 21 2016 05:05 Lunaticman wrote: I think it is very shallow as expected day one. It felt like he just wanted to assign blame to someone. Throwing the first rock if you will. I like your idea of building a town circle, that is always the most important thing the first two days. I'm also sad to see you say you will never play again maybe your just not in the mood. Also I'm off to bed nn. On October 21 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote: HAHA :D this made me laugh thank you. You don't want to engage me directly but now I won't let you slip between the cracks so you just try to shade me while voting someone else entirely. And you don't even post any reasons. It is intresting people are town reading BT and scum reading me although we both have the exact same read on Koshi. This smells like mafia trying to save mafia. and that double standard gives me pause, atm stuck on whether he's trying to skate by or whether he's someone who speaks in simpler sentences (if that makes any sense, basically someone who makes instinct reads...) but will need to revisit him after flips or more content. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On October 22 2016 09:24 Hopeless1der wrote: I'm referring explicitly to his actions at the deadline. Hell, even showing up in the first place after watching his movie was ballsy ass hell. I'm genuinely surprised less people jumped on him, which leads me to believe that the options are: A) Koshi is scum B) scum stayed on TT or C) scum is afk/throwing away votes on outliers/replaced I'm inclined to believe B&C at this moment, but I wouldnt be upset if koshi flipped. However, I have no intention of helping to flip him. can you explain in your own words why you think Koshi is town? from skimming your filter, it seems like your defence of him boils down to how others are pushing him (your parallel to holyflare), and I'm not seeing a coherent argument that people are pushing him for the wrong reasons. in short, how are you distinguishing bad town from mafia with koshi? ignore everyone else for a second. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On October 22 2016 09:36 Hopeless1der wrote: I want acro shot for being afk at/leading up to deadline but being here just after night post. I thought he was pretty towny early on? I mean it's like Friday night and that alone gives a good reason to afk? I mean I get what you are saying but I think you need a stronger argument than being afk. unless you are implying what he said after the deadline was scummy and not so much his activity. you have a meta read on him I'm not aware of? | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On October 22 2016 09:41 Hopeless1der wrote: I currently have some huge associative WIFOM between koshi, HF and Lunaticman. My read of koshi is town, and it really makes me hate HF and Lunatic. The fact that HF and Luna are weakly pushing each other gives me weak bus vibes, but again this is very associative. I will note that they've said the other is scummy but never voted to match. okay I can buy this argument to an extent, I need to see how holyflare was pushing others though to be a bit more sure of him. personally I did like at end of cycle how holyflare was questioning beenthere's wavering of why he wasn't voting koshi when the latter was calling for koshi's head all cycle though. as far as the non voting goes, I don't ever believe a holyflare wagon got traction and if I recall the voting thread right, luna had a small wagon but not really taking off. I can see town wanting to compromise and consolidate, so I'm not ruling that out either. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
I'm not sure what arguments people were making on him regarding activity but I don't do meta on people that I've never played with before. I've never played with vivax before. granted from reading his filter so far if I had to just come up with scummy points on my own on him 1 no followup on his acrofales mafia read 2 no followup on his kurumi mafia read either 3 he scumreads ticktock for something that doesn't necessarily make him mafia (or at least not from how the argument was worded) 4 his post towards end of cycle was also indicative of him lurking at least when you read for context. 5 soft defence of lunaticman for no reason when others were doubting, luna's early game was also really meh. like I don't know where vivax could have gotten a "how is luna not town" from what was going on. that isn't believable. | ||
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