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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 14 2016 22:12 GMT
#74
/in

I am actually extremely busy though.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 19 2016 22:04 GMT
#217
First confirmed town.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 19 2016 22:05 GMT
#219
Feels good to roll town. Mafia going to get rekt.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 19 2016 22:10 GMT
#224
On October 20 2016 07:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
nobody spamming, ded gaem

lol soz afk forgot game started

mid or feed
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 19 2016 22:10 GMT
#226
Nobody picks a jungle. If anybody goes jungle I just afk.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 19 2016 22:12 GMT
#229
On October 20 2016 07:11 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 07:10 Koshi wrote:
On October 20 2016 07:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
nobody spamming, ded gaem

lol soz afk forgot game started

mid or feed

go feed you russian retard we don't need you

cyka blyat
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 19 2016 22:13 GMT
#231
On October 20 2016 07:11 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 07:10 Koshi wrote:
On October 20 2016 07:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
nobody spamming, ded gaem

lol soz afk forgot game started

mid or feed

go feed you russian retard we don't need you

Also why so angry? Must have rolled mafia.

##Vote Skynx
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 19 2016 22:18 GMT
#239
LF Lich, LD, and Ursa for lvl 1 Rosh.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 09:08 GMT
#429
On October 20 2016 11:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm honestly baffled anyone would think I'd come out and fully claim my role what, two hours into a heavily themed game with all sorts of shit flyin' around at any given moment?

I'm stunned speechless.
Silent, even.

Claim dazzle --> You might not be mafia. Even though softclaiming a healer is extremely mafia behavior.
Claim anything else --> You are mafia.

Atm I am going to think you are dazzle and you made this post to cover up your "stupidity".



If I have to explain myself:
Town!WoS sees his role have "wa
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 09:23 GMT
#431
EBWOB (dnu why it posted it when I just alt tabbed):

Town!WoS sees his role have "wave of shadow" and happy as a child makes a post about it. Gets rekt by Exo and backtracks on his claim because he understands he made a mistake. Town!WoS clearly did not made the claim to bait scum shooting him. So being silly is the only acceptable explanation.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 09:25 GMT
#434
On October 20 2016 18:22 Acrofales wrote:
Getting scum vibes off Koshi. Based on my recall from a 2-y.o. meta, that means he's probably town.

Also #dedgaem

That doesn't make any sense.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 09:27 GMT
#436
On October 20 2016 18:23 ptmc wrote:
Show nested quote +

Claim anything else --> You are mafia.

which is what he did later

Yeah, but he is probably just dazzle.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 09:29 GMT
#439
On October 20 2016 18:26 ptmc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 18:23 Koshi wrote:
EBWOB (dnu why it posted it when I just alt tabbed):

Town!WoS sees his role have "wave of shadow" and happy as a child makes a post about it. Gets rekt by Exo and backtracks on his claim because he understands he made a mistake. Town!WoS clearly did not made the claim to bait scum shooting him. So being silly is the only acceptable explanation.


But back-tracking serves nothing here. If he is dazzle and town, we have some very powerful abilities that we can use for the good of town. And even then, if he fails to help town with them (like we say grave a town-read guy with low hp or sth.) we can still lynch him as mafia.
Back-tracking just tries to take focus off of him for no reason imo.

Somehow he prayed he could talk himself out of getting RB/Killed?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 09:31 GMT
#441
On October 20 2016 18:27 ptmc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 18:25 Koshi wrote:
On October 20 2016 18:22 Acrofales wrote:
Getting scum vibes off Koshi. Based on my recall from a 2-y.o. meta, that means he's probably town.

Also #dedgaem

That doesn't make any sense.


maybe he always misreads you as town?

I do get mafia read a lot when I am town yeah
While I am uncatchable as mafia. (proof: my last 3 mafia wins)

Not sure if he means that though. I think we were mafia together a long time ago.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 09:36 GMT
#442
Heads-up. I am going to lynch a 1 page scrub today.

Pro-tip for mafia:
make more than 20 posts and you are safe.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 09:47 GMT
#444
Hmm I am going to lynch all people that fakeclaim or fake crumb as well. I can't have that shit. The game might be breakable on D3/4 if we mass claim. So people who fakeclaimed at that point will get instant lynched.

I have seen crumbs already. There is 0 reason to do it as town. Just shut up.

Also, try to crumb better than literally saying what your ulti is.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 09:56 GMT
#447
On October 20 2016 18:50 ptmc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 18:47 Koshi wrote:
Hmm I am going to lynch all people that fakeclaim or fake crumb as well. I can't have that shit. The game might be breakable on D3/4 if we mass claim. So people who fakeclaimed at that point will get instant lynched.

I have seen crumbs already. There is 0 reason to do it as town. Just shut up.

Also, try to crumb better than literally saying what your ulti is.


if you mean me: my in-game hero has an ult, it just got balanced out of this game

Nha I meant iamp. It's so obvious so w.e.
Makes me wifom think they are mafia.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 09:58 GMT
#449
On October 20 2016 18:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 09:27 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 09:24 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2016 09:24 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 09:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2016 09:20 ritoky wrote:
On October 20 2016 09:12 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 09:09 ritoky wrote:
On October 20 2016 09:05 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 08:59 ritoky wrote:
[quote]

was present, contributed nothing, did not try to advance the game, wasn't funny, fucked off.

you could argue the first 2 pages of posts were all that.



you must have a different first 2 pages then.

you found something enlightening?


not particularly, but i see some idiots claiming, and other dummies trying to be funny with varying degrees of success. then i see hopeless.

I'd argue I was the most useful of the trolls, trying to set up a fight against roshan, but hey, you do you scummer.

so you think he is scum just because he said you are scum?

Yeah, the omgus defense...i think i was pretty transparent about it.

yeah but your not good enough to use it

town
+ Show Spoiler +
i always think iamp is town
+ Show Spoiler +
because he's funny


now that i have A READ, i can just skip the next couple pages, kkthx

That's not a read. Try again.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 10:07 GMT
#460
On October 20 2016 19:03 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 19:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 20 2016 18:58 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 18:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 20 2016 09:27 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 09:24 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2016 09:24 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 09:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2016 09:20 ritoky wrote:
On October 20 2016 09:12 iamperfection wrote:
[quote]
you found something enlightening?


not particularly, but i see some idiots claiming, and other dummies trying to be funny with varying degrees of success. then i see hopeless.

I'd argue I was the most useful of the trolls, trying to set up a fight against roshan, but hey, you do you scummer.

so you think he is scum just because he said you are scum?

Yeah, the omgus defense...i think i was pretty transparent about it.

yeah but your not good enough to use it

town
+ Show Spoiler +
i always think iamp is town
+ Show Spoiler +
because he's funny


now that i have A READ, i can just skip the next couple pages, kkthx


Are the people with Ls next to their name just going to come into the thread and say nothing at all other than to troll? Maybe tell me what you think about WoS entrance and behavior so far

maybe, what you gonna do about it champ?


This is the worst part about this game, the people who won't actually make any attempt to play. Like it frustrates me to no end when people just troll and somehow they get passes.

Why even play if you're just gonna sit around acting smug and mocking people. At least try to solve the game please idiot.

lol chill out bro. Onegu is a nazi mod.

Also, I actually enjoy playing with characters like DI. It's funny.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 10:10 GMT
#464
On October 20 2016 19:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
dandelion is pretty much posting jack shit that is totally useless and not even funny


##vote Dandel Ion

Do you think he is mafia?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 10:13 GMT
#469
On October 20 2016 19:11 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 19:10 Koshi wrote:
On October 20 2016 19:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
dandelion is pretty much posting jack shit that is totally useless and not even funny


##vote Dandel Ion

Do you think he is mafia?

No I'm voting him for the funsies


So why do you think he is mafia?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 10:24 GMT
#486
On October 20 2016 19:17 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 19:13 Koshi wrote:
On October 20 2016 19:11 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 20 2016 19:10 Koshi wrote:
On October 20 2016 19:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
dandelion is pretty much posting jack shit that is totally useless and not even funny


##vote Dandel Ion

Do you think he is mafia?

No I'm voting him for the funsies


So why do you think he is mafia?

It's in the post you quoted. To elaborate: oneliners, useless posts that do nothing but derail the thread. Which is mafia indicative.

Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 19:11 beentheredonethat wrote:
Koshi why are you asking that question


I wanted to know if you actually scumread him or if it was a pressure vote.

If he is trying to derail the thread he isn't doing a good job. Kinda obvious.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 10:29 GMT
#493
On October 20 2016 19:26 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 19:24 Koshi wrote:
On October 20 2016 19:17 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 20 2016 19:13 Koshi wrote:
On October 20 2016 19:11 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 20 2016 19:10 Koshi wrote:
On October 20 2016 19:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
dandelion is pretty much posting jack shit that is totally useless and not even funny


##vote Dandel Ion

Do you think he is mafia?

No I'm voting him for the funsies


So why do you think he is mafia?

It's in the post you quoted. To elaborate: oneliners, useless posts that do nothing but derail the thread. Which is mafia indicative.

On October 20 2016 19:11 beentheredonethat wrote:
Koshi why are you asking that question


I wanted to know if you actually scumread him or if it was a pressure vote.

If he is trying to derail the thread he isn't doing a good job. Kinda obvious.

you take that back, i'm very good at it

Well. Btdt would be a very bad fish.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 10:36 GMT
#499
On October 20 2016 19:32 Lunaticman wrote:
I just can't handle more of Koshi's platitudes. Obvious scum play as usual.

#Vote Koshi

Big words, bad vote.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 11:33 GMT
#541
On October 20 2016 20:18 beentheredonethat wrote:
Thing is I highly agree with Lunatic although it's a dumb entry without a followup. Koshi's filter reads like scum!Koshi from the last three games where he was scum. I hosted two of those games. I think Koshi has a high chance of flipping red given his filter. He calls out some stuff, then drops it, changes topic, while all being wishy-washy but seemingly active. He's probably lurking right now.

On October 20 2016 20:18 beentheredonethat wrote:
Koshi you said you'd lynch a 1-pager, then you'd lynch a bread-crumber - and now you're not lynching anyone. Okay, D1 early, npnp, but who do you want to push and why?

I'll do stuff when I do stuff.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 12:18 GMT
#559
On October 20 2016 21:11 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 20:33 Koshi wrote:
On October 20 2016 20:18 beentheredonethat wrote:
Thing is I highly agree with Lunatic although it's a dumb entry without a followup. Koshi's filter reads like scum!Koshi from the last three games where he was scum. I hosted two of those games. I think Koshi has a high chance of flipping red given his filter. He calls out some stuff, then drops it, changes topic, while all being wishy-washy but seemingly active. He's probably lurking right now.

On October 20 2016 20:18 beentheredonethat wrote:
Koshi you said you'd lynch a 1-pager, then you'd lynch a bread-crumber - and now you're not lynching anyone. Okay, D1 early, npnp, but who do you want to push and why?

I'll do stuff when I do stuff.

Okay

##vote Koshi

This pressure you put on me is unbearable. Please good sir, remove your vote.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 12:20 GMT
#563
On October 20 2016 21:17 Lunaticman wrote:
In a large game it's better only to speak when you have something to say. Otherwise we will just have a repeat of Palmars game. Some discussion is necessary but what Koshi is doing is exactly what he has been doing in the last couple of mafia games as scum. I won't stand for it.

I doubt this is true. Sadly I can't judge how I read myself so I can't be sure.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 13:44 GMT
#629
On October 20 2016 22:20 Lunaticman wrote:
We all know Koshi screwed up and stopped posting because he knows we know he screwed up.

Just lynch him and be done with it.

lololololol.

Being town is way more fun.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 13:51 GMT
#637
On October 20 2016 22:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 22:44 Koshi wrote:
On October 20 2016 22:20 Lunaticman wrote:
We all know Koshi screwed up and stopped posting because he knows we know he screwed up.

Just lynch him and be done with it.

lololololol.

Being town is way more fun.

Would you please actually play the game?

I am playing the game. I am following the thread carefully.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 14:24 GMT
#671
On October 20 2016 23:05 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 22:51 Koshi wrote:
On October 20 2016 22:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 20 2016 22:44 Koshi wrote:
On October 20 2016 22:20 Lunaticman wrote:
We all know Koshi screwed up and stopped posting because he knows we know he screwed up.

Just lynch him and be done with it.

lololololol.

Being town is way more fun.

Would you please actually play the game?

I am playing the game. I am following the thread carefully.

You're following the thread and picking random replies. You're playing absolutely reactive and are not initiating anything although you claimed multiple times to do so.

Koshi, you are scum.

The things in italic are wrong.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 14:30 GMT
#677
On October 20 2016 23:25 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 23:24 Koshi wrote:
On October 20 2016 23:05 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 20 2016 22:51 Koshi wrote:
On October 20 2016 22:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 20 2016 22:44 Koshi wrote:
On October 20 2016 22:20 Lunaticman wrote:
We all know Koshi screwed up and stopped posting because he knows we know he screwed up.

Just lynch him and be done with it.

lololololol.

Being town is way more fun.

Would you please actually play the game?

I am playing the game. I am following the thread carefully.

You're following the thread and picking random replies. You're playing absolutely reactive and are not initiating anything although you claimed multiple times to do so.

Koshi, you are scum.

The things in italic are wrong.

You have to pick one lurker slash very low poster to kill who is it?

I'll let you know later.

I know I am deflecting but it is all I am willing to do atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 19:27 GMT
#876
There is a chance I forgot how to play town. Nothing really caught my eye from the last 10 pages.
Kurumi
ritoky
are my best guesses for mafia atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 20:24 GMT
#919
On October 21 2016 04:34 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 04:27 Koshi wrote:
There is a chance I forgot how to play town. Nothing really caught my eye from the last 10 pages.
Kurumi
ritoky
are my best guesses for mafia atm.

Stop playing reactive. Start to read into people. Dive filters.

Or, roll over and die.

I did. And that is what I got.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 20 2016 20:53 GMT
#963
On October 21 2016 05:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 05:24 Koshi wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:34 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:27 Koshi wrote:
There is a chance I forgot how to play town. Nothing really caught my eye from the last 10 pages.
Kurumi
ritoky
are my best guesses for mafia atm.

Stop playing reactive. Start to read into people. Dive filters.

Or, roll over and die.

I did. And that is what I got.

The post I quoted originally (the nested one) is literally the only thing in your filter that could be slightly interpreted as not reactive. Given you've been called out to drop reads multiple times I am not accepting the quoted post as participation.

Please vote Koshi.

Well. Let's make that 1 post the start of something beautiful?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 21 2016 11:39 GMT
#1242
520 unread messages. Joy. Hopefully I read many yesterday already.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 21 2016 11:41 GMT
#1243
On October 21 2016 08:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Koshi is coming across as genuine to me. I don't think hes mafia . Pretty strong town read on him actually so I think lunatics looking in the wrong direction

Goddamn this makes my day a lot happier instantly.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 21 2016 11:46 GMT
#1246
On October 21 2016 08:58 Hopeless1der wrote:
can someone explain scum!koshi meta, or point me to which games I ought to be concerned with?

Palmar Themed Game
And then the last 2 minis that weren't newbies, both hosted by btdt.

Also the last 3 games I played. Also the reason why btdt and Luna got a thing for me now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 21 2016 12:19 GMT
#1263
From what I remember Kurumi plays a very clean game as mafia. He uses the TMI to put himself in a good position and even likes to be seen as smart. I would be surprised if he is mafia now. He is being an idiot atm and he knows it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 21 2016 13:15 GMT
#1272
Currently still on p 58. Progress is slow.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 21 2016 13:39 GMT
#1278
Hopeless1der and Lunatic are my preferred lynches for today. Going to vote with Acrofoles because I like his case.

##unvote
##vote Hopeless1der


p60 atm
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 21 2016 14:24 GMT
#1298
On October 21 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 22:39 Koshi wrote:
Hopeless1der and Lunatic are my preferred lynches for today. Going to vote with Acrofoles because I like his case.

##unvote
##vote Hopeless1der


p60 atm


HAHA :D this made me laugh thank you.

You don't want to engage me directly but now I won't let you slip between the cracks so you just try to shade me while voting someone else entirely. And you don't even post any reasons.

It is intresting people are town reading BT and scum reading me although we both have the exact same read on Koshi. This smells like mafia trying to save mafia.

Reasons: You are tunneling town and limiting yourself doing that. While as town you are normally all over the place and actively trying to push the game forward. I think except for HF you haven't made a single other observation in the game.

I know I am town. I don't know what you are doing.

And the main reason why I voted Hopeless over you is because I liked the case Acrofoles made.


If you are town you better take a step back and try to solve the game ignoring Koshi. I don't know what exactly you meant with that last paragraph you wrote but that shit is bad for you.
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Koshi
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October 21 2016 14:29 GMT
#1299
On October 21 2016 20:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
I skimmed the last 20 pages, and before I go offline again, I wanted to bring up Koshi again. My case still stands and he disappeared. He's playing exactly like he did in the last 3 games where he was scum.

This is actually a blatant lie. So annoying.

Will lunatic correct this lie? He knows I played super active in the Palmar Themed Game.
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Koshi
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October 21 2016 14:45 GMT
#1308
On October 21 2016 23:34 ptmc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 23:29 Koshi wrote:
On October 21 2016 20:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
I skimmed the last 20 pages, and before I go offline again, I wanted to bring up Koshi again. My case still stands and he disappeared. He's playing exactly like he did in the last 3 games where he was scum.

This is actually a blatant lie. So annoying.

Will lunatic correct this lie? He knows I played super active in the Palmar Themed Game.

What happened to your ritoky-read?

1) Lunatic didn't correct the blatant lie.
2) Yesterday I opened his filter after I saw the HF post and saw that ritoky wasn't looking for mafia at all. So he was a fine target to lynch. Today he started off with a list of townies and then went looking for mafia so I am ok with him atm.
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Koshi
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October 21 2016 14:50 GMT
#1314
On October 21 2016 23:42 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 23:29 Koshi wrote:
On October 21 2016 20:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
I skimmed the last 20 pages, and before I go offline again, I wanted to bring up Koshi again. My case still stands and he disappeared. He's playing exactly like he did in the last 3 games where he was scum.

This is actually a blatant lie. So annoying.

Will lunatic correct this lie? He knows I played super active in the Palmar Themed Game.


You are correct but I interpret it a different way. I think you went lurker because you got called on a meta read and had realized your mistake. A paraphrase of this is your "I think I forgot how to play town" post. You also had to devise a battle plan with your culprits how to refute the day one lynch.

Cool story but I didn't do any of that.

Btdt told a blatant lie and you didnt correct him while you knew it was a lie. That's pushing scum agenda or being really really bad.
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Koshi
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October 21 2016 14:51 GMT
#1315
On October 21 2016 23:48 iamperfection wrote:
Who will be here at deadline reply to this post

Yes, phoneposting though.
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Koshi
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October 21 2016 15:31 GMT
#1333
Seems like a plan

##unvote
##vote Vivax
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October 21 2016 15:42 GMT
#1336
Hmm not sure if I like this Vivax wagon tbh lol.

##unvote
##vote Lunaticman
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Koshi
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October 21 2016 15:43 GMT
#1337
↑ Easiest way to become conf town
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October 21 2016 18:03 GMT
#1427
On October 22 2016 02:59 beentheredonethat wrote:
My vote is good where it is. I don't feel like deciding between Lunatic/Vivax. Lunatic is a good lynch while Vivax is policy.

If it is still on me I disagree.
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Koshi
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October 21 2016 18:20 GMT
#1448
Btw who are we attacking? I am watching a movie soon. Still need to send in. Someq in WoS his list?
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October 21 2016 18:23 GMT
#1457
Ok I send in. Thx.
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October 21 2016 18:24 GMT
#1460
On October 22 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 03:03 Koshi wrote:
On October 22 2016 02:59 beentheredonethat wrote:
My vote is good where it is. I don't feel like deciding between Lunatic/Vivax. Lunatic is a good lynch while Vivax is policy.

If it is still on me I disagree.

Can you please post some list or something before i switch to you aswell?

Too m7ch work sorry.
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Koshi
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October 21 2016 18:32 GMT
#1471
On October 22 2016 03:27 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 03:24 Koshi wrote:
On October 22 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:
On October 22 2016 03:03 Koshi wrote:
On October 22 2016 02:59 beentheredonethat wrote:
My vote is good where it is. I don't feel like deciding between Lunatic/Vivax. Lunatic is a good lynch while Vivax is policy.

If it is still on me I disagree.

Can you please post some list or something before i switch to you aswell?

Too m7ch work sorry.

really, my vote is good where it is. You're arguing like Trump. "Here's evidence you're bad." - "No I'm not"

What if I tell you I play like this because I am a town powerrole?
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Koshi
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October 21 2016 18:36 GMT
#1478
On October 22 2016 03:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 03:32 Koshi wrote:
On October 22 2016 03:27 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 22 2016 03:24 Koshi wrote:
On October 22 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:
On October 22 2016 03:03 Koshi wrote:
On October 22 2016 02:59 beentheredonethat wrote:
My vote is good where it is. I don't feel like deciding between Lunatic/Vivax. Lunatic is a good lynch while Vivax is policy.

If it is still on me I disagree.

Can you please post some list or something before i switch to you aswell?

Too m7ch work sorry.

really, my vote is good where it is. You're arguing like Trump. "Here's evidence you're bad." - "No I'm not"

What if I tell you I play like this because I am a town powerrole?

Then you could easily ignore me and my ongoing inquiries and not soft-claim that powerrole. You're not that bad that close to EoD1 without being in danger to get lynched, you start claiming a power role.

Really, you're scum Koshi, and you can easily prove that you're not by starting to actually play the game instead of dodging anything. Currently, you're like Trump.

LoL the tunnel is real. It was a joke bro.
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Koshi
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October 21 2016 18:53 GMT
#1502
Well i gtg watch independance day. Glhf.
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October 21 2016 20:51 GMT
#1676
Well movie is over. Dont know how I can easy your minds. My role is pro town and I can proof it. You will see.
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October 21 2016 20:52 GMT
#1677
Want me to roleclaim?
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October 21 2016 20:52 GMT
#1680
On October 22 2016 05:52 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 05:51 Koshi wrote:
Well movie is over. Dont know how I can easy your minds. My role is pro town and I can proof it. You will see.

Your tempting me

Let me alive 1 night and unless I am killed it will happen.
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Koshi
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October 21 2016 20:54 GMT
#1687
Must be 2 mins shorter then. Also I dont watch credits.
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October 21 2016 20:55 GMT
#1692
On October 22 2016 05:54 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 05:52 Koshi wrote:
On October 22 2016 05:52 iamperfection wrote:
On October 22 2016 05:51 Koshi wrote:
Well movie is over. Dont know how I can easy your minds. My role is pro town and I can proof it. You will see.

Your tempting me

Let me alive 1 night and unless I am killed it will happen.

The way the hosts make it sound this game I don't see how you can confirm yourself through role

Well that is incorrect then.
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Koshi
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October 21 2016 22:30 GMT
#1753
Took 12 damage.

Hi NM. I am town this game.
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October 21 2016 22:36 GMT
#1758
On October 22 2016 07:33 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 07:30 Koshi wrote:
Took 12 damage.

Hi NM. I am town this game.


you were the counterwagon, the leading counterwagon.

we know tictock flipped town.

if you are town, tell me who the mafia are, on your wagon and why.

I would be surprised there are multiple mafia on me. I look like shit so mafia is happy to leave me alive.
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Koshi
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October 21 2016 22:45 GMT
#1763
I attacked gb.
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October 22 2016 11:32 GMT
#1952
Well I still hold the most pro town ability of all in my left pocket.
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October 22 2016 12:16 GMT
#1957
Pro tip to my fellow townies:
Dont base all your theories about me being mafia in your grand scheme of things. You are going to be sad and lost.
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October 22 2016 12:17 GMT
#1958
On October 22 2016 21:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Koshi wasnt going to happen because literally no one was online and posting late d1.

O rly.
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October 22 2016 12:19 GMT
#1959
Also on the record.
It is not my fault you scumread me.

This isnimportant for everybody to understand.
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October 22 2016 14:03 GMT
#1985
On October 22 2016 21:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
However please explain how these two quotes go together.
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 07:36 Koshi wrote:
On October 22 2016 07:33 NocturneMage wrote:
On October 22 2016 07:30 Koshi wrote:
Took 12 damage.

Hi NM. I am town this game.


you were the counterwagon, the leading counterwagon.

we know tictock flipped town.

if you are town, tell me who the mafia are, on your wagon and why.

I would be surprised there are multiple mafia on me. I look like shit so mafia is happy to leave me alive.

Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 21:19 Koshi wrote:
Also on the record.
It is not my fault you scumread me.

This isnimportant for everybody to understand.

Do you not consider looking like shit (and thus being scumread) to be your own fault?

Could I have been a good monkey and spammed reads 24/7 so people can tr me without doubt? Yes. And no.
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October 22 2016 14:23 GMT
#1996
I did more than 6 to gb. I think.
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October 22 2016 14:24 GMT
#1997
Yup I am sure. 7.
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October 22 2016 15:27 GMT
#2025
I dont't trust NM. Going to call him scum.
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October 22 2016 15:30 GMT
#2027
Imo tomorrow we lynch Vivax and discuss another lynch that isnt Koshi.
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October 22 2016 15:30 GMT
#2028
Like Skynx or Lunatic.
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October 22 2016 15:33 GMT
#2029
Skynx also went for my head last time Inwas town the entire game. But it wasnt with cases and not so absolute. Dnu. Hiw he switched from Koshi might be town to Koshi is lock mafia after I voted luna feels mafia.
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October 22 2016 15:34 GMT
#2031
Not sure when he came after me. But it was pretty late on the day.
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October 22 2016 15:35 GMT
#2033
On October 23 2016 00:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 00:24 Tubesock wrote:
On October 23 2016 00:18 Holyflare wrote:
On October 23 2016 00:06 Tubesock wrote:
I don't buy the LT and SL are town because of targeting WoS one bit.


I absolutely do and think wave's reaction to it here:

On October 22 2016 22:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 22 2016 17:32 Holyflare wrote:
On October 22 2016 17:21 Holyflare wrote:
On October 22 2016 09:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2016 09:34 NocturneMage wrote:
Lunatic is also rreaaaaaaalllllyyyyyy meh.

On one hand he's calling holyflare mafia with no explanation other than opportunism but then we have luna/hf both pushing each other. same time though, lunaticman points out this discrepancy though....

On October 21 2016 05:05 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:57 ritoky wrote:
[quote]

Do you have any opinions on HF's read on me?


I think it is very shallow as expected day one. It felt like he just wanted to assign blame to someone. Throwing the first rock if you will.

I like your idea of building a town circle, that is always the most important thing the first two days.

I'm also sad to see you say you will never play again maybe your just not in the mood.

Also I'm off to bed nn.


On October 21 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 21 2016 22:39 Koshi wrote:
Hopeless1der and Lunatic are my preferred lynches for today. Going to vote with Acrofoles because I like his case.

##unvote
##vote Hopeless1der


p60 atm


HAHA :D this made me laugh thank you.

You don't want to engage me directly but now I won't let you slip between the cracks so you just try to shade me while voting someone else entirely. And you don't even post any reasons.

It is intresting people are town reading BT and scum reading me although we both have the exact same read on Koshi. This smells like mafia trying to save mafia.


and that double standard gives me pause, atm stuck on whether he's trying to skate by or whether he's someone who speaks in simpler sentences (if that makes any sense, basically someone who makes instinct reads...) but will need to revisit him after flips or more content.


I currently have some huge associative WIFOM between koshi, HF and Lunaticman. My read of koshi is town, and it really makes me hate HF and Lunatic. The fact that HF and Luna are weakly pushing each other gives me weak bus vibes, but again this is very associative. I will note that they've said the other is scummy but never voted to match.


So if I have a choice between a town koshi or a town ticktock I go after the scrub one??? I could have easily lynched koshi but I'm waiting to see if he does something, anything in fact while i had an actual case on TT. He also claimed a town ability too. Koshi regularly gets nk on night 1 and 2 as town because he's a big threat and plays well but for some reason I'd just let him stay alive?

Wave is definitely mafia btw.

I lost 0 hp.


Ok wave might not definitely be mafia but lt/sl are practically confirmed town in my eyes now. I don't believe mafia start laying their kp on wave when they can attack better targets.

Oh actually this is a good point.
Ugh.
Stop making good points.


Is pretty bad because in my/lt/sl's world this only makes sense because we believe wave is mafia

In wave's world (if he's town) then it's his scum read lt getting rid of town wave and sl stacking with me too

But he said it's a good point which is kinda scummy response because it's only a good point if wave is mafia


I don't totally agree with that. I think that it really depends on if WoS thinks he's a town leader and that there are better targets that mafia would go after and "order" LT or SL or you to hit.

I wouldn't necessarily think that anyone attacking me would be mafia and I know I'm town.


Which is why I asked him if he'd done anything last cycle and he agreed he hadn't really.

There are most definitely better people to attack if wave is town (me/iamp/dandel) etc.

I still don't know about wave for real though so he can just sit at null because that's the summation of what he's done.

Shy would mafia attack obvious town with base attacks? Just makes them show face.
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October 22 2016 15:36 GMT
#2034
On October 23 2016 00:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 00:33 Koshi wrote:
Skynx also went for my head last time Inwas town the entire game. But it wasnt with cases and not so absolute. Dnu. Hiw he switched from Koshi might be town to Koshi is lock mafia after I voted luna feels mafia.


He did that?

Evertything I said this game is 100% true and genuine.
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Koshi
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October 22 2016 15:43 GMT
#2039
Ok then.
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October 22 2016 15:45 GMT
#2041
I could double lynch tomorrow but instead I will use 20 damage on hf. Gl hf.
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Koshi
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October 22 2016 15:46 GMT
#2042
Afk.
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October 22 2016 22:58 GMT
#2300
I got damage again. Can't care enough to count it out. Did X damage to HF. Probably 7 or so. Fuck him.
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Koshi
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October 22 2016 23:01 GMT
#2301
Also I can still do the double lynch. It is a D2 ability. Due to not being able to say specifics it comes down to make 2 big wagons.
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Koshi
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October 22 2016 23:01 GMT
#2302
But if you make me the second wagon I will refuse to use it. Obviously.
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October 22 2016 23:01 GMT
#2303
Also if I am the first wagon. If you want to get cute.
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October 22 2016 23:04 GMT
#2305
Holy fuck I got a lot of damage. Why damage the guy you want to lynch? Makes no sense.
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Koshi
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October 22 2016 23:06 GMT
#2306
Imagine mafia hit me. I lost over 30hp already.
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October 22 2016 23:12 GMT
#2309
On October 23 2016 08:09 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 08:06 Koshi wrote:
Imagine mafia hit me. I lost over 30hp already.

or both maybe..... 2 townies did die im sure some townies attacked you i dont know why mafia would waste kp if your town on you

Yup. Probably shitty townies.
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October 22 2016 23:17 GMT
#2312
Can we make the second wagon Lunatic? I am pretty sure that I confirm myself town if he flips mafia. And let's be honest, he is mafia.

##unvote
##vote Lunatic
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Koshi
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October 22 2016 23:18 GMT
#2314
Or skynx. If he flips mafia I am also pretty much confirmed town. Defended me first and then called me mafia out of nowhere.

##unvote
##vote Skynx
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October 22 2016 23:18 GMT
#2316
On October 23 2016 08:18 sicklucker wrote:
hi guys.

hi sl
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October 22 2016 23:19 GMT
#2317
Also can the people who did damage on me claim? I got over 30.
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October 22 2016 23:20 GMT
#2318
If nobody claims I suggest somebody to check my hp. 99% there is a role like that. It is like a green copcheck.
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October 22 2016 23:23 GMT
#2321
On October 23 2016 08:22 sicklucker wrote:
no but really im bloodseeker I can check your hp

Well if no townie attacked me it must have been mafia.
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#2323
On October 23 2016 08:23 sicklucker wrote:
should I bother reading last night or was it just all garbage? im kind of glad hf now we will be more civilized

+1 would have hit him harder if I could
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October 22 2016 23:24 GMT
#2327
On October 23 2016 08:24 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 08:04 iamperfection wrote:
On October 23 2016 07:49 Skynx wrote:
On October 23 2016 07:43 Acrofales wrote:
On October 23 2016 07:41 iamperfection wrote:
i attacked nobody

Then skynx jumped over you to do something to btdt.

@skynx: why did you attack btdt?

Your methods of reaching conclusions are faulty. I attacked iamp.
But why do you ask me a question in vain when you already made up your mind about my alignment and why do i even bother replying at all i have no idea fuck this.

ok your mafia

Yeah this.


Koshi can you tell us the threshold or do we just try to split votes 50/50 and hope it works?

Dnu. Is it needed? It will work if we make 2 wagons.
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October 22 2016 23:27 GMT
#2330
On October 23 2016 08:26 iamperfection wrote:
no there are going to be 22 votes on vivax he will be voting himself by the end.

you hate 2 lynches?
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October 22 2016 23:28 GMT
#2333
On October 23 2016 08:27 iamperfection wrote:
i see no evidence of 2 lynches

It will happen.
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October 22 2016 23:42 GMT
#2337
On October 23 2016 08:36 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 08:32 Acrofales wrote:
On October 23 2016 08:27 iamperfection wrote:
i see no evidence of 2 lynches

I see no real risk in having 13 votes on Vivax and 9 on a 2nd lynch option. If it happens, yay. If not, koshi extra-double-confirms himself as scum.

it doesn't feel right

like double lynch doesn't really fit any dota hero i can think of. but I don't know why koshi would lie about it though as either alignment unless he is trolling or something

It is far fetched but it works.
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October 22 2016 23:42 GMT
#2339
Also don't understand how people can think I am mafia while I have a double lynch.
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October 22 2016 23:48 GMT
#2344
Guys.... Come on. It will work.
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October 23 2016 00:09 GMT
#2346
On October 23 2016 08:46 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 08:42 Koshi wrote:
Also don't understand how people can think I am mafia while I have a double lynch.

Prove it. Also, scum can get abilities like double lynch in heavy themed games. Gonna have to think what game it was, but fairly certain I saw it before.

This is a pretty scummy response btw.
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October 23 2016 14:47 GMT
#2480
On October 23 2016 12:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
If Koshi was able to prove he could double lynch, he would. But he cant, because its either not real or not revealed when activated. Or hes being a dick, which is obviously possible.

On October 23 2016 13:26 sicklucker wrote:
well if koshi is scum hes doing everything a scum should do at the bottom of the barrel. trying to get votes/kp off him

It will happen at the end of the phase. I can't say more.
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#2481
On October 23 2016 13:27 sicklucker wrote:
also i brought up my ability to detect his hp but when I did that he dropped. also makes no sense for scum to target him so hes scum

Why does that make me scum?
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#2482
On October 23 2016 13:33 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 13:27 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 23 2016 13:26 sicklucker wrote:
well if koshi is scum hes doing everything a scum should do at the bottom of the barrel. trying to get votes/kp off him

sure, but he's also promised a double lynch, I'm willing to give him a cycle to produce it before he enters auto-lynch territory like vivax. Granted, I'm a little more lenient since I think hes town but nonetheless, he either gives us our double lynch or he gets killed himself.


a second lynch barely favors town tho. infact its completely null

It is 100% pro town. Double lynch always favors town.
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#2491
On October 23 2016 23:04 Skynx wrote:
Also @Koshi,

You are delusional + scum.

I defended you cuz it was early in the game and you could redeem yourself. You gave me a big middle finger and then i voted you cuz i told u to step up.

Thats not what we call "defends me then wants to lynch me out of nowhere"

Your vote was opportunistic as fuck and didn't compare with how you read me before. I was already surprised when you as one of few correctly gave me benefit of the doubt, but then after I voted Luna you just drop the hammer on me with a bullshit case.
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October 23 2016 15:09 GMT
#2495
I like how there are so many people calling a double lynch not pro-town and how many people need to know the specifics. Well if my double lynch doesn't go through it is 85% on you all.

No I am not backtracking.

But stop asking dumb shit and just make a second BIG wagon.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 23 2016 15:10 GMT
#2499
On October 24 2016 00:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 00:08 Skynx wrote:
On October 23 2016 02:14 Skynx wrote:
Koshi I voted you cuz I warned you before that you need to start doing shit. You said you're not going to, so you're scum. Please don't manipulate shit and say you're genuine and all...


I mean, the thing is it doesn't make him scum.
I had him on town for a fair amount of this game, but I will say if this actually turns out to be secret double lynch I will tie the noose myself.

Are you all stupid or something? Why is a secret double lynch mechanic anti town? Holy fuck.

This should confirm me 100% town. 100000000%
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 23 2016 15:11 GMT
#2502
On October 24 2016 00:10 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 23:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 23 2016 23:47 Koshi wrote:
On October 23 2016 12:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
If Koshi was able to prove he could double lynch, he would. But he cant, because its either not real or not revealed when activated. Or hes being a dick, which is obviously possible.

On October 23 2016 13:26 sicklucker wrote:
well if koshi is scum hes doing everything a scum should do at the bottom of the barrel. trying to get votes/kp off him

It will happen at the end of the phase. I can't say more.

This seems mega super bullshit as a power for the record.
If you actually activated a secret double lynch then
A) that is not even remotely a town power
B) I'll be mad at onegu

I still find it more likely that you're bullshitting rather than the above though. What are you not doing/not telling us?

Ezmode. Vote for koshi: ensure there is 1 vote on him, just in case he has some shitty scum ability he can use if nobody is voting for him. Then we form 2 wagons:

1. Vivax with a large majority of votes
2. Someone else. I'm still deciding who, but one of (Skynx, Artanis, Lunatic, Taco Bell, Lord Tolkien) seems like a pretty good starting point.

Now. If the double lynch happens as planned, yay! We revisit koshi tomorrow. If the double lynch doesn't happen, koshi confirmed as scum. He'll claim roleblocked, but nobody gonna believe that shit, and we 100% lynch him tomorrow.

Worst case scenario: town wins.

Pretty sure I wont claim rb"ed.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 23 2016 15:13 GMT
#2504
On October 24 2016 00:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Koshi it's pretty simple.
When you can make another person die during the day by towns own hand without any town knowledge of it happening, that's a rather large benefit for scum.

Ok. So it is standard that mafia has a secret way to kill somebody during the day? It is always town that has the most kp during the day.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 23 2016 15:14 GMT
#2506
On October 24 2016 00:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
Although I will admit a secret double lynch to begin with is a super bullshit power if you're telling the truth and I'll be even more unhappy if you're actually town and we lynch you for it.

Maybe you shouldn't see it as a fucking double lynch.

Holy fuck you people.

I am out before I tell everything. Justbullshit.

Vivax/Skynx/Lunatic


ez mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 23 2016 15:15 GMT
#2508
On October 24 2016 00:14 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 00:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 24 2016 00:08 Skynx wrote:
On October 23 2016 02:14 Skynx wrote:
Koshi I voted you cuz I warned you before that you need to start doing shit. You said you're not going to, so you're scum. Please don't manipulate shit and say you're genuine and all...


I mean, the thing is it doesn't make him scum.
I had him on town for a fair amount of this game, but I will say if this actually turns out to be secret double lynch I will tie the noose myself.

Meta makes him scum, as btdt suggested earlier on. Koshi is not a passive player. He especially doesn't vote for shitty reasonings like that.

Town Koshi posts long lists, pushes everyone with massive cases and town follows him to victory.
This game Koshi is like our PM who just chillz and blames other people from his chair while doing nothing of worth.

I was actually before people told me to be their monkey and I just fucked off.
I don't have to have 1 meta as town.

+

I HAVE THE MOST PRO TOWN ABILITY OF ALL. I AM FUCKING CONF SETUP TOWN.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 23 2016 15:17 GMT
#2512
On October 24 2016 00:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 00:13 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 00:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Koshi it's pretty simple.
When you can make another person die during the day by towns own hand without any town knowledge of it happening, that's a rather large benefit for scum.

Ok. So it is standard that mafia has a secret way to kill somebody during the day? It is always town that has the most kp during the day.

Yes, except for the fact that this is using a collective town KP---'lynch', to kill someone theoretically without their own knowledge. An announced double lynch is completely different.

I don't know what you are saying but I say double lynch because it is tied to the lynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 23 2016 15:31 GMT
#2514
On October 24 2016 00:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 00:17 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 00:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 24 2016 00:13 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 00:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Koshi it's pretty simple.
When you can make another person die during the day by towns own hand without any town knowledge of it happening, that's a rather large benefit for scum.

Ok. So it is standard that mafia has a secret way to kill somebody during the day? It is always town that has the most kp during the day.

Yes, except for the fact that this is using a collective town KP---'lynch', to kill someone theoretically without their own knowledge. An announced double lynch is completely different.

I don't know what you are saying but I say double lynch because it is tied to the lynch.

So then what you're saying is it's not double lynch then, it's something else.

Is this an open question so I tell you people even more details?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 23 2016 15:32 GMT
#2515
If my shit gets blocked I am going to be very sad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 23 2016 15:47 GMT
#2520
On October 24 2016 00:45 iamperfection wrote:
someone discuss my point on skynx that i cant wrap my head around it.


Why would he claim his attack on me?

I haven't followed that discussion.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 23 2016 15:54 GMT
#2528
On October 24 2016 00:48 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 00:47 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 00:45 iamperfection wrote:
someone discuss my point on skynx that i cant wrap my head around it.


Why would he claim his attack on me?

I haven't followed that discussion.

he said he attacked me. i didn't comment at all on taking damage yet he claims an attack why would he do that as scum?

Well the damage claim doesn't matter. As scum he might just do yolo damage?
Was this during the night?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 23 2016 15:55 GMT
#2529
On October 24 2016 00:53 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 00:53 Skynx wrote:
On October 24 2016 00:48 iamperfection wrote:
On October 24 2016 00:47 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 00:45 iamperfection wrote:
someone discuss my point on skynx that i cant wrap my head around it.


Why would he claim his attack on me?

I haven't followed that discussion.

he said he attacked me. i didn't comment at all on taking damage yet he claims an attack why would he do that as scum?

You didn't take damage???

nope

ahh. Then it is maybe redirected?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 23 2016 21:40 GMT
#2633
On October 24 2016 06:13 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 08:01 Koshi wrote:
Also I can still do the double lynch. It is a D2 ability. Due to not being able to say specifics it comes down to make 2 big wagons.

This is bullshit. The clone guy fully explained his mechanic without any mod consequences and you flail.

You understand that if I tell exactly what I do there is a chance mafia will counter it right? Look at how many people are asking what I exactly do. It's hilarious.

I claim double lynch:
People come out of the woodwork claiming double lynch is not pro town (wtf???)
People want to know exactly what I do, how I do it, etc etc. FOR WHAT? So mafia can block it and you can keep calling "Koshi is mafia" like the little fuckers you are????


MAYBE JUST FUCKING LET ME DO IT AND THEN JUDGE IF IT WAS WORTH IT OR PRO TOWN OR W.E.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 23 2016 21:41 GMT
#2634
Not only am I confirmed town for having a double lynch. I am also confirmed town for how many people are jumping on this while I am not even up for discussion to be lynched today. People just want to see it fail.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 23 2016 21:41 GMT
#2635
Skynx/Luna/Vivax/Acrofoles/sicklucker

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 23 2016 21:45 GMT
#2639
On October 24 2016 06:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 06:41 Koshi wrote:
Skynx/Luna/Vivax/Acrofoles/sicklucker


Why not GB?

Well he is rolefishing as well but at least not my role.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 23 2016 21:47 GMT
#2640
On October 24 2016 06:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 06:41 Koshi wrote:
Skynx/Luna/Vivax/Acrofoles/sicklucker


Why not GB?

I am not considering a lot of people for mafia btw. Like ritoky, he had to win a lot with HF dieing. Not sure if HF read him as mafia EoN but I know he was suspicious.

And then a bunch of lurkers
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 11:17 GMT
#2790
Koshi: "Hey guys let's double lynch, I just need 2 long wagons"
Others: double lynch is not nec pro town.
Others: Tell us exactly how mafia can stop the double lynch or you are mafia yourself.
Others: Koshi is mafia when the double lynch doesn't happen.


*Koshi looks at vote count*
Vivax (10)
Skynx (2)
Koshi (1)

*Koshi shrugs and walks away*
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 11:30 GMT
#2793
^ Another ******* that wants me to proof myself but votes Vivax.


Do I need to copy paste my role PM for you people to grasp how it works or?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 11:32 GMT
#2795
ITT Townies being too fucking stupid and a mafia team that doesn't want me to become confirmed town. We are in D2, it's boring as fuck autolynching Vivax, I offer double lynch, which btw is even a pro town move if I didn't even have it, literally nobody is interested in double lynching but everybody is interesting in discrediting me and wants to see me fail so they can jerk off on their shitty read on me and blame somebody except themselves when I flip town.

I hope Vivax isn't mafia. Then I can decide to join the mafia team and just hit baddies till we lose. Like HF. Pretty sure that isn't more against my wincon than what at least a big portion other townies are doing atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 11:35 GMT
#2799
On October 24 2016 20:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 20:30 Koshi wrote:
^ Another ******* that wants me to proof myself but votes Vivax.


Do I need to copy paste my role PM for you people to grasp how it works or?

I am not available on deadline. I will not risk that Vivax does not get lynched in case you lied. You claim a thing and are mad at town? Really? You didnt do jack shit D1/N1. Even if you are indeed town, you screwed up way too bad to not get killed at this point.

Screwed up doing what exactly? I sat on Lunatic/Vivax till a shitton people decided I should be lynched or TT. I was voting mafia. You were too busy tunneling me "for not doing enough". Which is not even a reason to scumread somebody btw, it's just creating a shitty townmeta for me in which I need to be hyperactive in each game or I am mafia. Which also fucks my enjoyment when I roll mafia. So fuck off.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 11:41 GMT
#2800
In the end the only thing that matters is:

a) Who voted mafia the entire game.
b) Who pushed/voted town the entire game.


Group a are decent players that might become really good players if they can herd the idiots.
Group b are default baddies that might become not total shitters if they can proof themselves to be town while being shit.


I am probably group a. You are group b. The rest of the game it is just a question where you will end in group b. Top of bottom.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 11:42 GMT
#2801
I meant top or bottom. But top of bottom is actually more accurate.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 12:03 GMT
#2805
On October 24 2016 20:55 Vivax wrote:
Yo, I was at a glacier this weekend and my care level for this game is really low. I'll just play now and you lynch me anyway. That's fine, I'd do the same in your stead.

The good news is we can actually lynch somebody besides you!! The bad news is nobody gives a fuck and prefers to just auto lynch me tomorrow.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 12:05 GMT
#2808
On October 24 2016 21:04 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 20:55 Vivax wrote:
Yo, I was at a glacier this weekend and my care level for this game is really low. I'll just play now and you lynch me anyway. That's fine, I'd do the same in your stead.

Needs more baby seals.

You could have presented the joke better.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 12:11 GMT
#2814
On October 24 2016 21:10 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 21:03 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 20:55 Vivax wrote:
Yo, I was at a glacier this weekend and my care level for this game is really low. I'll just play now and you lynch me anyway. That's fine, I'd do the same in your stead.

The good news is we can actually lynch somebody besides you!! The bad news is nobody gives a fuck and prefers to just auto lynch me tomorrow.


Koshi I'll give you one chance. Explain as much as you can how your ability works.



On October 24 2016 20:17 Koshi wrote:
Koshi: "Hey guys let's double lynch, I just need 2 long wagons"
Others: double lynch is not nec pro town.
Others: Tell us exactly how mafia can stop the double lynch or you are mafia yourself.
Others: Koshi is mafia when the double lynch doesn't happen.


*Koshi looks at vote count*
Vivax (10)
Skynx (2)
Koshi (1)

*Koshi shrugs and walks away*

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 12:17 GMT
#2818
On October 24 2016 21:08 Acrofales wrote:
I'm not really around. Just some quick phone posts while I have a coffee. I'll be out again in a sec. Just one more thing I was saying before I had to leave earlier:

Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 05:43 beentheredonethat wrote:
seeing Koroko in the Not voting list. Does his vote actually count?


A 3p that has multiple votes doesn't exist, so if Koroko's vote counts, we need to kill that asap.

If he is in the Not voting list, he needs to vote, so his vote counts.

I read 1 post from him explaining how his role worked and now that I think of it it doesn't make sense.
His main hp shifts between meepos but what about the smaller meepos then? They are unkillable?

Probably best to use some supression fire on the meepos indeed. It is never town btw, if it can vote. Can't balance that shit unless mafia has a hard counter.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 12:18 GMT
#2819
On October 24 2016 21:16 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 21:13 Acrofales wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:10 ExO_ wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:03 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 20:55 Vivax wrote:
Yo, I was at a glacier this weekend and my care level for this game is really low. I'll just play now and you lynch me anyway. That's fine, I'd do the same in your stead.

The good news is we can actually lynch somebody besides you!! The bad news is nobody gives a fuck and prefers to just auto lynch me tomorrow.


Koshi I'll give you one chance. Explain as much as you can how your ability works.

Empty threat. He lives at least one more phase anyway. Might as well humor him. I don't really care how he claims his ability works, as long as the top 2 people in the vote list die. He could day vig them for all I care. If the top 2 people die, we can discuss it for tomorrow's lynch.


You don't really care about how he claims his ability works? That's a pretty damn important thing to not care about. If you don't question him about how his ability works, how can we ever figure out if he's lying?

2 people die = I am not lieing.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 12:20 GMT
#2821
On October 24 2016 21:19 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 21:18 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:16 ExO_ wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:13 Acrofales wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:10 ExO_ wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:03 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 20:55 Vivax wrote:
Yo, I was at a glacier this weekend and my care level for this game is really low. I'll just play now and you lynch me anyway. That's fine, I'd do the same in your stead.

The good news is we can actually lynch somebody besides you!! The bad news is nobody gives a fuck and prefers to just auto lynch me tomorrow.


Koshi I'll give you one chance. Explain as much as you can how your ability works.

Empty threat. He lives at least one more phase anyway. Might as well humor him. I don't really care how he claims his ability works, as long as the top 2 people in the vote list die. He could day vig them for all I care. If the top 2 people die, we can discuss it for tomorrow's lynch.


You don't really care about how he claims his ability works? That's a pretty damn important thing to not care about. If you don't question him about how his ability works, how can we ever figure out if he's lying?

2 people die = I am not lieing.


But under what specific conditions can you kill 2 people?

TRY TO READ THE THREAD BRO. I HAVE ONLY FUCKING EXPLAINED IT 54625754 TIMES.

FUCK MY LIFE.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 12:21 GMT
#2822
ITT tomorrow:

Koshi is mafia because he only talks about his double lynch.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 12:26 GMT
#2824
On October 24 2016 21:22 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 21:20 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:19 ExO_ wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:18 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:16 ExO_ wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:13 Acrofales wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:10 ExO_ wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:03 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 20:55 Vivax wrote:
Yo, I was at a glacier this weekend and my care level for this game is really low. I'll just play now and you lynch me anyway. That's fine, I'd do the same in your stead.

The good news is we can actually lynch somebody besides you!! The bad news is nobody gives a fuck and prefers to just auto lynch me tomorrow.


Koshi I'll give you one chance. Explain as much as you can how your ability works.

Empty threat. He lives at least one more phase anyway. Might as well humor him. I don't really care how he claims his ability works, as long as the top 2 people in the vote list die. He could day vig them for all I care. If the top 2 people die, we can discuss it for tomorrow's lynch.


You don't really care about how he claims his ability works? That's a pretty damn important thing to not care about. If you don't question him about how his ability works, how can we ever figure out if he's lying?

2 people die = I am not lieing.


But under what specific conditions can you kill 2 people?

TRY TO READ THE THREAD BRO. I HAVE ONLY FUCKING EXPLAINED IT 54625754 TIMES.

FUCK MY LIFE.


Quote your filter where you explain it, because I'm not seeing it

Pile votes on 2 wagons. Really. tyvm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 12:35 GMT
#2831
On October 24 2016 21:30 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 21:26 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:22 ExO_ wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:20 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:19 ExO_ wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:18 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:16 ExO_ wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:13 Acrofales wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:10 ExO_ wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:03 Koshi wrote:
[quote]
The good news is we can actually lynch somebody besides you!! The bad news is nobody gives a fuck and prefers to just auto lynch me tomorrow.


Koshi I'll give you one chance. Explain as much as you can how your ability works.

Empty threat. He lives at least one more phase anyway. Might as well humor him. I don't really care how he claims his ability works, as long as the top 2 people in the vote list die. He could day vig them for all I care. If the top 2 people die, we can discuss it for tomorrow's lynch.


You don't really care about how he claims his ability works? That's a pretty damn important thing to not care about. If you don't question him about how his ability works, how can we ever figure out if he's lying?

2 people die = I am not lieing.


But under what specific conditions can you kill 2 people?

TRY TO READ THE THREAD BRO. I HAVE ONLY FUCKING EXPLAINED IT 54625754 TIMES.

FUCK MY LIFE.


Quote your filter where you explain it, because I'm not seeing it

Pile votes on 2 wagons. Really. tyvm.


Yeah so you're trying to tell me that you have an ability that lets you lynch another player if 2 wagons have a lot of votes? Or what exactly? Do you have to send the action in just before the timer, or at night or what?

On October 24 2016 20:30 Koshi wrote:
Do I need to copy paste my role PM for you people to grasp how it works or?

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 12:35 GMT
#2832
On October 24 2016 21:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
Could that ability be a mafia ability, too?

Everything can be mafia, my hero is pretty mafia aka evil, but it is 100% FUCKING PRO TOWN 100% CONFIRMED HOLY SHIT.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 12:40 GMT
#2835
On October 24 2016 21:39 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 21:35 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
Could that ability be a mafia ability, too?

Everything can be mafia, my hero is pretty mafia aka evil, but it is 100% FUCKING PRO TOWN 100% CONFIRMED HOLY SHIT.

lynch Koshi next he's full of shit

One can not be this fucking dense.

##unvote
##Vote ExO_
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 12:42 GMT
#2836
On October 24 2016 21:40 beentheredonethat wrote:
Koshi, its madness to do the same thing over and over again but expect a different result. If youre town, leave the thread for some hours. Calm down. We all got your claim and no, as of now, we are not following you. But you are not todays lynch. So please go ahead and read people. Drop thoughts. Bring up your findings. All you do is claiming and raging, and people follow you in derailing the thread.

Really, Koshi. Stop raging, stop claiming, all is said and done. Calm down, then start to work. Read people outside of Vivax. Make suggestions for your second wagon.

Or, keep raging and yeah, nothing will change.

I cannot proof I am town unless you make 2 wagons? How hard is this too graps?

Hey Koshi we will lynch you when you don't kill the guy with a shitton of votes. But spoiler, we won't give a second guy a shitton of votes.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 12:49 GMT
#2838
Well. From this point onwards I am going to say literally nothing anymore about my role.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 24 2016 12:56 GMT
#2840
You are pretty hilarious Hopeless.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 24 2016 12:56 GMT
#2841
brb murdering some newborn kittens.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 12:59 GMT
#2843
On October 24 2016 21:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:40 beentheredonethat wrote:
Koshi, its madness to do the same thing over and over again but expect a different result. If youre town, leave the thread for some hours. Calm down. We all got your claim and no, as of now, we are not following you. But you are not todays lynch. So please go ahead and read people. Drop thoughts. Bring up your findings. All you do is claiming and raging, and people follow you in derailing the thread.

Really, Koshi. Stop raging, stop claiming, all is said and done. Calm down, then start to work. Read people outside of Vivax. Make suggestions for your second wagon.

Or, keep raging and yeah, nothing will change.

I cannot proof I am town unless you make 2 wagons? How hard is this too graps?

Hey Koshi we will lynch you when you don't kill the guy with a shitton of votes. But spoiler, we won't give a second guy a shitton of votes.

Hey Koshi no second wagon is forming and if you want one,then fucking make a solid case. Scumfuck,you make me pissed by now. Back to ignore. My advicse still stands.

Exo is mafia for not making any cases and pretending to be as dense as a rock.
Lunatic is mafia for not making any cases and just voting me since the first 5 minutes of the game.
Vivax is mafia for not making any cases and claiming to have visited baby seals.
Skynx is mafia for making 1 opportunistic as fuck case on me and doing nothing else entirely.


4 brilliant cases. You are pushing me with the same reasoning this entire game now so I must just became solid town to you.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 24 2016 13:03 GMT
#2846
On October 24 2016 22:03 ptmc wrote:
Do you have thoughts on BG and LT, Koshi?

They can go die in a fire?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 13:10 GMT
#2848
On October 24 2016 22:05 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 21:59 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 21:40 beentheredonethat wrote:
Koshi, its madness to do the same thing over and over again but expect a different result. If youre town, leave the thread for some hours. Calm down. We all got your claim and no, as of now, we are not following you. But you are not todays lynch. So please go ahead and read people. Drop thoughts. Bring up your findings. All you do is claiming and raging, and people follow you in derailing the thread.

Really, Koshi. Stop raging, stop claiming, all is said and done. Calm down, then start to work. Read people outside of Vivax. Make suggestions for your second wagon.

Or, keep raging and yeah, nothing will change.

I cannot proof I am town unless you make 2 wagons? How hard is this too graps?

Hey Koshi we will lynch you when you don't kill the guy with a shitton of votes. But spoiler, we won't give a second guy a shitton of votes.

Hey Koshi no second wagon is forming and if you want one,then fucking make a solid case. Scumfuck,you make me pissed by now. Back to ignore. My advicse still stands.

Exo is mafia for not making any cases and pretending to be as dense as a rock.
Lunatic is mafia for not making any cases and just voting me since the first 5 minutes of the game.
Vivax is mafia for not making any cases and claiming to have visited baby seals.
Skynx is mafia for making 1 opportunistic as fuck case on me and doing nothing else entirely.


4 brilliant cases. You are pushing me with the same reasoning this entire game now so I must just became solid town to you.

???

Well ,at least 1 townie is paying attention this game.
I change my opinion to mafia is scared as fuck about me and want to bury me.

But yeah, there is probably mafia in the whole LT/GB/Hamamura guy/Ritoky
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 13:19 GMT
#2855
On October 24 2016 22:17 ptmc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 22:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
every lurker is scum until they prove otherwise


I agree. I don't feel strongly for a Skynx-Lynch (only read his filter, did I miss a case?)
Lunatic however is still only a weird tunneling lurker, which would be a fine second lynch.

## vote lunaticman

I agree Lunatic is the worst of the bunch. And this also beyond doubt proofs I am 100% confirmed town.

##unvote
## vote lunaticman
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 13:36 GMT
#2860
tldr after I saw my name under mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 13:40 GMT
#2867
Luna as town is not this either
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 24 2016 13:42 GMT
#2869
On October 24 2016 22:40 Koshi wrote:
Luna as town is not this either

http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/mafia/511784-who-needs-72-hours-anyway?user=Lunaticman

24 pages tons of scumhunting.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 13:50 GMT
#2874
On October 24 2016 22:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Bleh Acro's filter has a shitton of original thought so prob not. Maybe Wave?

Hmm. I think Acro/iamp/DI/WoS are fine atm.

ritoky/sicklucker are more likely active mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 13:53 GMT
#2877
On October 24 2016 22:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I remember Wave got attacked by some ppl. Does anyone remember who did that?

Probably but no me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 13:58 GMT
#2883
On October 24 2016 22:55 iamperfection wrote:
Does anyone remember someone saying the Holyflare kill wasn't surprising. I know someone said it but I can't remember who

On October 23 2016 08:26 sicklucker wrote:
nks are meh. Expected. Probably shoulda nked me but then again im trolling the thread . hf was obv town. noct was some sort of newbie game fear lynch but I can respect it
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 14:05 GMT
#2891
On October 24 2016 23:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 22:50 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 22:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Bleh Acro's filter has a shitton of original thought so prob not. Maybe Wave?

Hmm. I think Acro/iamp/DI/WoS are fine atm.

ritoky/sicklucker are more likely active mafia.

Could be that my ritoky townread is off-point. He's a sly bugger but I think it's still likely accurate.
SL I mostly townread for having similar thoughts but that's pretty meh. Wish Rso was in the game so I could tell if he's scum or not from whether he reads her posts.

Problem is neither of those fit the feeling I'm getting. I guess it could be something like SL/Tubesock and other mid-range posters creating that feeling?

Still going through Wave's filter but not really noticing anything that makes me scream scum. He comes off as very nonchalant but it doesn't come off scripted. Blehhhhhhh

WoS probably town for how happy and how much he was posting early game/mid D1. Also one of the few that is still trying to pressure different targets then herpderp lynch Koshi.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 14:08 GMT
#2897
On October 24 2016 23:03 ptmc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 21:03 sicklucker wrote:
Also I recieved damage last night. (not alot very little acualy) but it was weird because I recieved it during the night stage and not the day. anyone wanna claim that damage?


Why is receiving damage in the night weird?

Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 06:58 sicklucker wrote:
ok great my first reactions to you were you were scum mostly because of hf things. but ill play nice for now. I dont evenm really have a town circle since you morons killed on my of my town reads day 1

Im like pretty sure bill and ptmc are town like 90%. Then I have no clue really just alot of scummy people. Im going to kill some people tomorrow and it will be glorious. I think everyone's reads are bad and alot of the scum are in the active group


Why do you think BM is town?

Other than those two posts and him being sceptical of Koshi i think his filter is fine.

It's fine but I expect town!sl to come up with a bunch of tinfoil original ideas or just good believable theories.

Also read how he defends me during D1, but then as soon as I announce my double lynch he switches and says how my play makes sense as a mafia trying to survive 1 more day. While I was going to survive this day almost always.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 14:26 GMT
#2911
I lost over 30hp bro. He can check me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 24 2016 14:41 GMT
#2916
On October 24 2016 23:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 22:19 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 22:17 ptmc wrote:
On October 24 2016 22:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
every lurker is scum until they prove otherwise


I agree. I don't feel strongly for a Skynx-Lynch (only read his filter, did I miss a case?)
Lunatic however is still only a weird tunneling lurker, which would be a fine second lynch.

## vote lunaticman

I agree Lunatic is the worst of the bunch. And this also beyond doubt proofs I am 100% confirmed town.

##unvote
## vote lunaticman

IF people make sure the wagons aren't too close together I am OK with this

If we want to be sure, let's put 7 votes on Lunatic.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 14:41 GMT
#2917
On October 24 2016 23:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 22:19 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 22:17 ptmc wrote:
On October 24 2016 22:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
every lurker is scum until they prove otherwise


I agree. I don't feel strongly for a Skynx-Lynch (only read his filter, did I miss a case?)
Lunatic however is still only a weird tunneling lurker, which would be a fine second lynch.

## vote lunaticman

I agree Lunatic is the worst of the bunch. And this also beyond doubt proofs I am 100% confirmed town.

##unvote
## vote lunaticman

IF people make sure the wagons aren't too close together I am OK with this

Also, no mafia is going to show face for Lunatic.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 15:33 GMT
#2944
On October 24 2016 23:40 ptmc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 23:26 Koshi wrote:
I lost over 30hp bro. He can check me.


What do you scum lean ritoky for? He feels a bit limp, but has some thoughts that he sticks to.

It's multiple little things that stick out to me. Like this:
On October 24 2016 14:05 ritoky wrote:
also something i remembered was that i liked LT and exo less cuz they suggested letting the mod deal with vivax....don't rely on the mod. you get shit like i have pulled before and which vivax has repeatedly told me "never again" for. he knows better than to try to eod snipe.

On October 24 2016 14:19 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 14:15 ExO_ wrote:
Ritoky you are trying to mischaracterize me. I think Vivax should die, but I'm saying we should be talking about a 2nd target. Esp. if he's going to die of mod kill anyway.

I don't think it can hurt to at least talk about having another target if it looks like Vivax will die of Mod kill


i refuse to rely on the mod for modkills. ESPECIALLY cuz it is vivax. for history lessons, in a game about 2 yrs ago? i was mafia in a position where it was literally stone impossible for me to escape lynch so i did not post the entire phase. the town (vivax included) decided i would be modkilled and to lynch someone else. i voted with 7 seconds left in the day as my only required post. they lynched town and lost a phase that probably could have won them the game. since then vivax has said "never again" repeatedly when people try to plan around modkills instead of lynches. i refuse to play around modkills. especially with him. it will bite you eventually.

A really scummy way to throw extra shade on Exo and LT.

Also when Exo calls him out he tells a story how town once tried to get him modkilled as mafia but they failed. I don't see how that story initially made Exo and LT mafia. If anything, it would make them more town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 15:36 GMT
#2945
On October 24 2016 23:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 23:41 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 23:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 24 2016 22:19 Koshi wrote:
On October 24 2016 22:17 ptmc wrote:
On October 24 2016 22:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
every lurker is scum until they prove otherwise


I agree. I don't feel strongly for a Skynx-Lynch (only read his filter, did I miss a case?)
Lunatic however is still only a weird tunneling lurker, which would be a fine second lynch.

## vote lunaticman

I agree Lunatic is the worst of the bunch. And this also beyond doubt proofs I am 100% confirmed town.

##unvote
## vote lunaticman

IF people make sure the wagons aren't too close together I am OK with this

Also, no mafia is going to show face for Lunatic.

Fair, but stupider things have happened.
Koshi you know you could have made this way less complicated somehow. I won't know how that was until I see what your role is, but srsly.

Well I didn't think I would have to claim everything so you guys would go along. I said the necessary with my first post. Now I would be actually surprised if it goes through. But we will see.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 15:40 GMT
#2947
Ok guys. Let's say I need to afk the next 5 hours and need to send in now. I need to know there will be at least 6-7 votes on Lunatic today. He also needs to be the second lynch. Well, he doesn't have to be but if he is main lynch it is overkill obviously. If he doesn't have the votes he wont get 1-shotted.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 15:59 GMT
#2950
On October 25 2016 00:43 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 00:40 Koshi wrote:
Ok guys. Let's say I need to afk the next 5 hours and need to send in now. I need to know there will be at least 6-7 votes on Lunatic today. He also needs to be the second lynch. Well, he doesn't have to be but if he is main lynch it is overkill obviously. If he doesn't have the votes he wont get 1-shotted.
it's not the person who is the second wagon so we can't shenanigan?

Why do you always have to ask extra questions when it is quite fucking obvious what I am writing. Try to think for yourself and read between lines.

When I write we should do "a" it actually means let's do "a".
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 16:03 GMT
#2952
On October 25 2016 00:51 iamperfection wrote:
Who will be here at deadline raise hands

Try to read what I wrote again.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 16:16 GMT
#2953
Well. It happened. Everybody scumreads Lunatic so he should get ez 6-7 votes.
I also get less effective with the more days pass.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 16:27 GMT
#2959
extra info: I have the perfect weight + height
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:12 GMT
#3118
I was hit for over 50 already so you can kill me tonight.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:19 GMT
#3124
I got so much damage already. Dafuq is this. Who is hitting me?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:25 GMT
#3127
On October 25 2016 07:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
WOW
AND SCUM FUCKING HIT ME WITH A POST MODIFIER, IF I POST 7 MORE TIMES I TAKE 5 DAMAGE PER POST.

That sounds like bloodseeker to me. Fucking kill sicklucker and all the rest of these scummers if you actually care about this fucking game.

I'm being forced out of it by fucking retarded OP powers.

Gg scum
Maybe you can convince yourselves you earned it

This night or forever?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:26 GMT
#3128
Well I am close to dieing. Maybe I survive tonight but probably not. Going to get finished off. ggwp.

Kinda bullshit I get this ulti and then there is a mafia spell that sucks up all votes. That is bullshit;
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:26 GMT
#3129
Pretty sure the excuse will be that "town had a lot of kp if they worked together".
Which is ofcourse never going to happen.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:27 GMT
#3130
What you gonna do...
At best my ulti hits for 80% hp or something on D3.

Depends on how many die. That's not cool.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:29 GMT
#3132
Dnu. It is lame that after so many scum wins town still doesn't get a bit the upper hand in balance. You odn't have to imbalnce it but no lynch that works over a potential double lynch is just bad mechanics. At least let mine count so we get 1 lynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:31 GMT
#3135
On October 25 2016 07:24 sicklucker wrote:
huh ya I tottaly gave you a post modifier you and gb. Its not single target I had to use it on both of you. im a little disapionted mods tell you not to post tho. nothing about that in my role description

Grtz on claiming mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:32 GMT
#3139
On October 25 2016 07:31 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 07:28 iamperfection wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:24 sicklucker wrote:
huh ya I tottaly gave you a post modifier you and gb. Its not single target I had to use it on both of you. im a little disapionted mods tell you not to post tho. nothing about that in my role description

Wait you admit it?

hell ya ? waves always been my target I even attacked him last night. and everyone wants gb dead

You are mafia. I knew it.

Ritoky/Vivax/Sicklucker/Lunatic/skynx

I said it from the fucking start.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:33 GMT
#3143
On October 25 2016 07:32 sicklucker wrote:
I am not mafia... why am I claiming mafia? is wave confirmed or some shit? Because im pretty far behind

HOW IS PREVENTING SOMEBODY TO POST PRO TOWN EVER?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:33 GMT
#3147
On October 25 2016 07:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
Okay. Town has to group up and we need to direct night action at people. I suggest we all attack Vivax.

SAYS THE GUY WHO PROBABLY KILLED ME FOR 30 HP ALREADY
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:35 GMT
#3152
Ritoky/Vivax/Sicklucker/Lunatic/skynx

Endgame cred.

Afkers like Humahama/LT can be replaced with 1
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:35 GMT
#3154
On October 25 2016 07:34 beentheredonethat wrote:
tbh I lied about attacking you so I don't get roleblocked, yeah.

I LOST OVER 65 HP ALREADY
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:39 GMT
#3163
On October 25 2016 07:36 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 07:35 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:34 beentheredonethat wrote:
tbh I lied about attacking you so I don't get roleblocked, yeah.

I LOST OVER 65 HP ALREADY

Good. Please die.

Did you attack me?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:39 GMT
#3165
Artanis/Iamp did you attack me?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:40 GMT
#3167
On October 25 2016 07:37 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 07:36 Acrofales wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:09 iamperfection wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:08 Acrofales wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:06 iamperfection wrote:
Why do you think koshi should go first?

Because the guy who uses the ability is 100% certainly scum. The guy he is saving is only 99.99% certainly scum.

Like what are you talking about how do you know koshis ability didn't work or just wasn't blocked?

Koshi promises double lynch. Instead we get no lynch. I don't believe in coincidences. Moreover, Koshi claimed it did damage equal to the number 2 for votes on the player, and claimed it needed 6 to 7 votes to kill someone (so presumably 10 damage per vote?). 80 damage is a lot, so lunatic should be dead, regardless of whether the "lynch" failed. Koshi is not in here acting surprised. He's in here acting mock outraged.

Lynch the shit out of the fucker.


I mean I predicted this shit btw. Hate to say I told you so... Even if hes town he claimed it like a derp so of course mafias gonna stop it. If he was really town he should have kept him mouth shut unless he was the garanteed second lynch. but he claimed it for no reason

How can I know there is a role that removes all votes in the game? Like... Dafuq.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:41 GMT
#3170
sl is 100% mafia. This is too much bullshit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:41 GMT
#3173
NS made the night come so there were no votes. Something like that. So I got countered.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 24 2016 22:43 GMT
#3176
On October 25 2016 07:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 07:40 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:37 sicklucker wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:36 Acrofales wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:09 iamperfection wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:08 Acrofales wrote:
On October 25 2016 07:06 iamperfection wrote:
Why do you think koshi should go first?

Because the guy who uses the ability is 100% certainly scum. The guy he is saving is only 99.99% certainly scum.

Like what are you talking about how do you know koshis ability didn't work or just wasn't blocked?

Koshi promises double lynch. Instead we get no lynch. I don't believe in coincidences. Moreover, Koshi claimed it did damage equal to the number 2 for votes on the player, and claimed it needed 6 to 7 votes to kill someone (so presumably 10 damage per vote?). 80 damage is a lot, so lunatic should be dead, regardless of whether the "lynch" failed. Koshi is not in here acting surprised. He's in here acting mock outraged.

Lynch the shit out of the fucker.


I mean I predicted this shit btw. Hate to say I told you so... Even if hes town he claimed it like a derp so of course mafias gonna stop it. If he was really town he should have kept him mouth shut unless he was the garanteed second lynch. but he claimed it for no reason

How can I know there is a role that removes all votes in the game? Like... Dafuq.

More important, how can you exactly know that this role removes all votes and doesn't just say "votes don't count, nolynch it is"?

..................................... It was a wild guess. I don't know why the fuck. But I know night came early and there were no votes. That I know.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 25 2016 08:41 GMT
#3283
On October 25 2016 08:49 Bill Murray wrote:
So koshi why did you hit artanis]rels slot?

I didn't. But I assume he attacked me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 08:49 GMT
#3288
On October 25 2016 16:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Koshi, I did not attack you.

Also, if no one claims their AA on me I'll have to presume it came from scum.

Well. I did not do 5 damage to you.
My basic damage is 7 btw, which I claimed before, of course this could be fake but come on... Does anybody has an attack that is 5? Or lower?

So I got so much damage and nobody from town claims it. I have a feeling I got the ulti from Wynter Wyvern on me and Artanis and iamp attacked me or something.

How much damage did you 2 do last night? Could it be over 35 together?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 08:57 GMT
#3290
On October 25 2016 17:49 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 16:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Koshi, I did not attack you.

Also, if no one claims their AA on me I'll have to presume it came from scum.

Well. I did not do 5 damage to you.
My basic damage is 7 btw, which I claimed before, of course this could be fake but come on... Does anybody has an attack that is 5? Or lower?

So I got so much damage and nobody from town claims it. I have a feeling I got the ulti from Wynter Wyvern on me and Artanis and iamp attacked me or something.

How much damage did you 2 do last night? Could it be over 35 together?

If I had wyverns ulti on me, would I be stunned? Maybe I would be.

Artanis can you answer? Did you do massive damage?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 08:59 GMT
#3291
I am going to die tonight. It is pretty sure. Heals come after kp so I am pretty fucked. My ulti is also pretty good and I still have it so yeah...


I would ask sicklucker to check my hp but he is mafia. Pretty good spell for mafia btw.

My 5 names still stand.
People like hamamura, GB and TL could be mafia but who cares. Maybe acrofoles as well. Maybe ritoky not and he just decided to be a shitter.

Problem is people with low hp (Koshi, GB) are going to be town and getting killed off by mafia because mafia can do it. And then others like hama, ritoky, acrofoles, TL are just running around (almost) full hp because mafia is healing them and protecting them etc etc etc.

Balancing this game is hard but you can't expect town to play together. While mafia just plays together. There are still 22 players in the game and maybe powerful spells unlock or get upgraded so who knows. But my hopes are low.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 09:01 GMT
#3292
People scumread me D1 and I got way too much "free damage".
People townread me D2 and I die due to all the "free damage" N2.

so bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 09:03 GMT
#3294
On October 25 2016 18:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 17:57 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 17:49 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 16:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Koshi, I did not attack you.

Also, if no one claims their AA on me I'll have to presume it came from scum.

Well. I did not do 5 damage to you.
My basic damage is 7 btw, which I claimed before, of course this could be fake but come on... Does anybody has an attack that is 5? Or lower?

So I got so much damage and nobody from town claims it. I have a feeling I got the ulti from Wynter Wyvern on me and Artanis and iamp attacked me or something.

How much damage did you 2 do last night? Could it be over 35 together?

If I had wyverns ulti on me, would I be stunned? Maybe I would be.

Artanis can you answer? Did you do massive damage?

I used an ability and got RBed. I didn't do any damage.

How do you know this?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 09:03 GMT
#3295
On October 25 2016 18:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 18:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 25 2016 17:57 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 17:49 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 16:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Koshi, I did not attack you.

Also, if no one claims their AA on me I'll have to presume it came from scum.

Well. I did not do 5 damage to you.
My basic damage is 7 btw, which I claimed before, of course this could be fake but come on... Does anybody has an attack that is 5? Or lower?

So I got so much damage and nobody from town claims it. I have a feeling I got the ulti from Wynter Wyvern on me and Artanis and iamp attacked me or something.

How much damage did you 2 do last night? Could it be over 35 together?

If I had wyverns ulti on me, would I be stunned? Maybe I would be.

Artanis can you answer? Did you do massive damage?

I used an ability and got RBed. I didn't do any damage.

How do you know this?

nvm. I understand. nvm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 09:05 GMT
#3296
No. Wyvern ulti was on me. You didn't got RB. You attacked me.


If wyvern ulti is like 2 up and 2 down and 4 people basic attacked me this is fucking bullshit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 09:06 GMT
#3298
On October 25 2016 18:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I did not attack you.

Well then I don't understand anything.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 09:06 GMT
#3299
afk
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 09:39 GMT
#3303
Maybe I got Ion Shell from Dark Seer on me?

iamp did you get 5 damage?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 09:39 GMT
#3304
On October 25 2016 07:07 iamperfection wrote:
I took 5 dmg

So the people around me took 5 damage.

Ok.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 09:40 GMT
#3305
I think you people attacked me lol. That would make sense with my passive.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 09:40 GMT
#3306
It is actually 100% certain.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 09:41 GMT
#3307
You guys attacked me. Remember that for the future.

It is 100% confirmed Artanis and iamp attacked me and I had NOTHING to do with it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 09:43 GMT
#3308
@btdt, did you have anything to do with this?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 09:43 GMT
#3309
On October 25 2016 18:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I did not attack you.

you attacked me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 09:57 GMT
#3312
On October 25 2016 18:49 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 17:57 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 17:49 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 16:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Koshi, I did not attack you.

Also, if no one claims their AA on me I'll have to presume it came from scum.

Well. I did not do 5 damage to you.
My basic damage is 7 btw, which I claimed before, of course this could be fake but come on... Does anybody has an attack that is 5? Or lower?

So I got so much damage and nobody from town claims it. I have a feeling I got the ulti from Wynter Wyvern on me and Artanis and iamp attacked me or something.

How much damage did you 2 do last night? Could it be over 35 together?

If I had wyverns ulti on me, would I be stunned? Maybe I would be.

Artanis can you answer? Did you do massive damage?

Paged back a bit, but cannot find any reason for koshi to assume winter wyvern ulti'd him, nor even any reason to assume winter wyvern is in the game, or what the fuck the ulti would even do if it were. Did I miss a claim somewhere?

Cuz that makes fucking sense from my POV.

He used winter wyvern curse on me and I got RB, and the people around me attack me for basic damage, probably also RBing them.


If that happened. Everything is explained. Even the 5 damage they got.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 09:59 GMT
#3314
On October 25 2016 18:58 ptmc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 18:12 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 25 2016 17:49 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 16:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Koshi, I did not attack you.

Also, if no one claims their AA on me I'll have to presume it came from scum.

Well. I did not do 5 damage to you.
My basic damage is 7 btw, which I claimed before, of course this could be fake but come on... Does anybody has an attack that is 5? Or lower?

So I got so much damage and nobody from town claims it. I have a feeling I got the ulti from Wynter Wyvern on me and Artanis and iamp attacked me or something.

How much damage did you 2 do last night? Could it be over 35 together?

I have a basic attack of 4.
I have a powerful attack ability and I have attacked you three times now. I claimed that. I said I townread you because I wasn't roleblocked at all and I bought your rage.

Mafia wouldn't do a no-lynch if Koshi hadn't claimed his ability. That means Vivax and Lunatic are scum. Else it would make NO sense for scum to save Vivax as he will be lynched/shot anyways.

Either Vivax and Lunatic are scum and the no-lynch should make us kill Koshi OR Koshi is scum, Vivax/Luna alignment is not sure and Scum wasted a no-lynch to save what, an inactive Scum!Vivax?

I don't think so. To me, Luna and Vivax are as close to confirmed scum as it gets, and Koshi is as close to confirmed town as it gets.

Sicklucker's play doesn't make sense as scum IMHO.

We should attack the fuck out of Vivax and Luna and I really want town to coordinate attacks. I will attack Lunatic. Sicklucker, ptmc, WoS, please do so, too, with the maximum attack damage you have. Dandel, iamp, Acro, please attack Vivax. Artanis, you too. At this point, I am considering Ritoky to be scum. Not enough activity, and he's popping up every now and then to not fall into afk category, and his posts imply that he's actively reading the thread.


imo a no-lynch ability will get used on cooldown. It is just too powerful. Anything else is just wifom.
It also probably means we have D3 to lynch the no-lynch-guy, since it will probably be off cooldown D4.
Happy fun times.

There are 1 shot spells. This is 1 shot or I suggest you all post role PM if it happens again.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 25 2016 10:01 GMT
#3315
No I can't be RB. I was stunned.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 10:04 GMT
#3317
I don't know if I am being unclear here. But for me it is100% obvious and I feel I have explained it 100% clear.

So I don't understand why Acrofoles can't grasp what happened. Good chance he is just pretending though.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 10:09 GMT
#3320
On October 25 2016 19:06 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 18:57 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 18:49 Acrofales wrote:
On October 25 2016 17:57 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 17:49 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 16:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Koshi, I did not attack you.

Also, if no one claims their AA on me I'll have to presume it came from scum.

Well. I did not do 5 damage to you.
My basic damage is 7 btw, which I claimed before, of course this could be fake but come on... Does anybody has an attack that is 5? Or lower?

So I got so much damage and nobody from town claims it. I have a feeling I got the ulti from Wynter Wyvern on me and Artanis and iamp attacked me or something.

How much damage did you 2 do last night? Could it be over 35 together?

If I had wyverns ulti on me, would I be stunned? Maybe I would be.

Artanis can you answer? Did you do massive damage?

Paged back a bit, but cannot find any reason for koshi to assume winter wyvern ulti'd him, nor even any reason to assume winter wyvern is in the game, or what the fuck the ulti would even do if it were. Did I miss a claim somewhere?

Cuz that makes fucking sense from my POV.

He used winter wyvern curse on me and I got RB, and the people around me attack me for basic damage, probably also RBing them.


If that happened. Everything is explained. Even the 5 damage they got.


Okay, so you're just crazy. Think your explanation through. It makes literally no sense at all. At best, this is complete speculation. At worst, this is a TMI explanation of (a) Winter Wyvern being in the game and (b) what the fuck his ultimate would do in the case that he is in the game.

Seeing as you're almost certainly scum anyway, I think the second explanation is the correct one and you're making up some bizarro claim based on whatever scum abilities are in the game.

Well. iamp and Artanis both attacked me (this is fucking 100% confirmed to me) while they claim they didn't.


gogo explain that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 10:10 GMT
#3321
On October 25 2016 19:07 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 19:04 Koshi wrote:
I don't know if I am being unclear here. But for me it is100% obvious and I feel I have explained it 100% clear.

So I don't understand why Acrofoles can't grasp what happened. Good chance he is just pretending though.


1. How do you know WW is in the game?
2. How do you know what his dota abilities translate to in mafia?


On October 25 2016 19:09 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 19:06 Acrofales wrote:
On October 25 2016 18:57 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 18:49 Acrofales wrote:
On October 25 2016 17:57 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 17:49 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 16:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Koshi, I did not attack you.

Also, if no one claims their AA on me I'll have to presume it came from scum.

Well. I did not do 5 damage to you.
My basic damage is 7 btw, which I claimed before, of course this could be fake but come on... Does anybody has an attack that is 5? Or lower?

So I got so much damage and nobody from town claims it. I have a feeling I got the ulti from Wynter Wyvern on me and Artanis and iamp attacked me or something.

How much damage did you 2 do last night? Could it be over 35 together?

If I had wyverns ulti on me, would I be stunned? Maybe I would be.

Artanis can you answer? Did you do massive damage?

Paged back a bit, but cannot find any reason for koshi to assume winter wyvern ulti'd him, nor even any reason to assume winter wyvern is in the game, or what the fuck the ulti would even do if it were. Did I miss a claim somewhere?

Cuz that makes fucking sense from my POV.

He used winter wyvern curse on me and I got RB, and the people around me attack me for basic damage, probably also RBing them.


If that happened. Everything is explained. Even the 5 damage they got.


Okay, so you're just crazy. Think your explanation through. It makes literally no sense at all. At best, this is complete speculation. At worst, this is a TMI explanation of (a) Winter Wyvern being in the game and (b) what the fuck his ultimate would do in the case that he is in the game.

Seeing as you're almost certainly scum anyway, I think the second explanation is the correct one and you're making up some bizarro claim based on whatever scum abilities are in the game.

Well. iamp and Artanis both attacked me (this is fucking 100% confirmed to me) while they claim they didn't.


gogo explain that.


Explain it any way different than I did
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 10:14 GMT
#3323
Unless you
1) Disbelieve I got damaged and I instantly knew I had to fakeclaim damage.
2) Disbelieve both Artanis and iamp claiming lost 5hp
3) Disbelieve BM confirms I attacked Artanis or Artanis attack me and lost it. He seems to not know how.
4) Disbelieve Artanis claims RB and not attacking me.


Explain all this with me being Balanar using curse of Darkness.


GOGOGOGOGOGO
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 10:14 GMT
#3325
On October 25 2016 19:11 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 19:09 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 19:06 Acrofales wrote:
On October 25 2016 18:57 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 18:49 Acrofales wrote:
On October 25 2016 17:57 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 17:49 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 16:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Koshi, I did not attack you.

Also, if no one claims their AA on me I'll have to presume it came from scum.

Well. I did not do 5 damage to you.
My basic damage is 7 btw, which I claimed before, of course this could be fake but come on... Does anybody has an attack that is 5? Or lower?

So I got so much damage and nobody from town claims it. I have a feeling I got the ulti from Wynter Wyvern on me and Artanis and iamp attacked me or something.

How much damage did you 2 do last night? Could it be over 35 together?

If I had wyverns ulti on me, would I be stunned? Maybe I would be.

Artanis can you answer? Did you do massive damage?

Paged back a bit, but cannot find any reason for koshi to assume winter wyvern ulti'd him, nor even any reason to assume winter wyvern is in the game, or what the fuck the ulti would even do if it were. Did I miss a claim somewhere?

Cuz that makes fucking sense from my POV.

He used winter wyvern curse on me and I got RB, and the people around me attack me for basic damage, probably also RBing them.


If that happened. Everything is explained. Even the 5 damage they got.


Okay, so you're just crazy. Think your explanation through. It makes literally no sense at all. At best, this is complete speculation. At worst, this is a TMI explanation of (a) Winter Wyvern being in the game and (b) what the fuck his ultimate would do in the case that he is in the game.

Seeing as you're almost certainly scum anyway, I think the second explanation is the correct one and you're making up some bizarro claim based on whatever scum abilities are in the game.

Well. iamp and Artanis both attacked me (this is fucking 100% confirmed to me) while they claim they didn't.


gogo explain that.


How do you know it was iamp and artanis, and not <insert random ranged character here>. You're making my brain melt.

READ MY FUCKING POST YOU FUCK
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 10:14 GMT
#3326
On October 25 2016 19:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 18:43 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 18:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I did not attack you.

you attacked me.

I did not attack you.

You did attack me. It is confirmed. Don't be stupid plssssssss
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 10:16 GMT
#3330
Like in theory I could be Axe and have used called for example. Forcing them to attack me and rb them in process. Then do 5 damage with spinning thingie.

That is actually an extremely well thought out, balanced hero for mafia.


Sadly mafia is op as fuck.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 10:17 GMT
#3331
On October 25 2016 19:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't make up these things, why would I when half the game scumreads you? I could've scumread you if I wanted to attack you.

You're not making any sense.

You were forced to attack me bro. I did 5 damage to you because you attacked me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 10:20 GMT
#3335
On October 25 2016 19:17 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 19:10 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 19:07 Acrofales wrote:
On October 25 2016 19:04 Koshi wrote:
I don't know if I am being unclear here. But for me it is100% obvious and I feel I have explained it 100% clear.

So I don't understand why Acrofoles can't grasp what happened. Good chance he is just pretending though.


1. How do you know WW is in the game?
2. How do you know what his dota abilities translate to in mafia?


On October 25 2016 19:09 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 19:06 Acrofales wrote:
On October 25 2016 18:57 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 18:49 Acrofales wrote:
On October 25 2016 17:57 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 17:49 Koshi wrote:
On October 25 2016 16:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Koshi, I did not attack you.

Also, if no one claims their AA on me I'll have to presume it came from scum.

Well. I did not do 5 damage to you.
My basic damage is 7 btw, which I claimed before, of course this could be fake but come on... Does anybody has an attack that is 5? Or lower?

So I got so much damage and nobody from town claims it. I have a feeling I got the ulti from Wynter Wyvern on me and Artanis and iamp attacked me or something.

How much damage did you 2 do last night? Could it be over 35 together?

If I had wyverns ulti on me, would I be stunned? Maybe I would be.

Artanis can you answer? Did you do massive damage?

Paged back a bit, but cannot find any reason for koshi to assume winter wyvern ulti'd him, nor even any reason to assume winter wyvern is in the game, or what the fuck the ulti would even do if it were. Did I miss a claim somewhere?

Cuz that makes fucking sense from my POV.

He used winter wyvern curse on me and I got RB, and the people around me attack me for basic damage, probably also RBing them.


If that happened. Everything is explained. Even the 5 damage they got.


Okay, so you're just crazy. Think your explanation through. It makes literally no sense at all. At best, this is complete speculation. At worst, this is a TMI explanation of (a) Winter Wyvern being in the game and (b) what the fuck his ultimate would do in the case that he is in the game.

Seeing as you're almost certainly scum anyway, I think the second explanation is the correct one and you're making up some bizarro claim based on whatever scum abilities are in the game.

Well. iamp and Artanis both attacked me (this is fucking 100% confirmed to me) while they claim they didn't.


gogo explain that.


Explain it any way different than I did


Lion, Visage, Bane, Sniper, Zeus, etc. nuked you (or pretty much any other char with a nuke). Artanis got pinged by random ranged player 1. Iamp got pinged by random ranged player 2. Artanis also got RB'd by random player 3. Iamp didn't get RB'd.

Luna, Lich, Gyrocopter, Tidehunter, etc. ultimated the lot of you, making you take lots of damage and Artanis and Iamp a little bit. Artanis got RB'd by random other player

You see, I can ALSO make up random abilities for random Dota heroes. Doesn't mean they're in the game, or even have those abilities.

Ok it is fine.
I am just way more smarter than you.

Sorry. I thought we were the same level. Or at least you were a bit higher.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 25 2016 10:20 GMT
#3336
Higher than you are showing here I meant.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 25 2016 10:22 GMT
#3337
On October 25 2016 19:19 Acrofales wrote:
Wait, you're even more insane than I thought. Iamperfection wasn´t even NEXT to you on D2. Dandel was. And he wasn't roleblocked for sure, because he moved to next to Koroko, exactly as he claimed he should. Koroko claimed 0 damage, though.

I know I am right. Then Dandel moved away before the curse happened. I don't care. It happened. It makes perfect 100% sense.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 25 2016 10:24 GMT
#3340
On October 25 2016 19:23 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 18:43 Koshi wrote:
@btdt, did you have anything to do with this?

Holy. Read. I have attacked you which is probably why I was damaged. So you have a passive that hurts attackers?

Yes, 5 damage. Can you confirm you got that each time?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 25 2016 10:25 GMT
#3341
I forgot btdt can confirm this lol.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 25 2016 10:29 GMT
#3345
On October 25 2016 19:27 beentheredonethat wrote:
Yes, Koshi, I can confirm this. Koshi is not lieing about his passive. If it was available since D1.

I am somewhat sorry I forgot to mention this. But it's your own fault for attacking me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 10:30 GMT
#3346
Ok now I want to see what Acrofoles has to say.

The 5 hp damage is confirmed.

Explain now pls
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 10:32 GMT
#3349
the damage on me explained:

btdt did a shitton damage
iamp melee hit
artanis melee hit


If winter whyvern makes sense then iamp and Artanis were immune to all damage but got RB.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 25 2016 10:35 GMT
#3354
Well I figured that out. Was fun.


imo kill Vivax/Luna first. Afterthat ritoky/sicklucker/skynx/Acro. the ones who don't die and don't have damage done to them. If sicklucker is town, he should check heroes for being full hp.

Endgame it is up to people to find the mafia in LT/Hama and others. If WoS is mafia it is perfect for him that he can't post. I almost can't believe it lasts till forever. sicklucker probably knows it only last for 1 phase or so. Rupture isn't forever.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 25 2016 10:36 GMT
#3357
On October 25 2016 19:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
Acro, stop right there. Take a break. Reevaluate.

Koshi, is your double lynch gone?

No but I am dead.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 25 2016 10:41 GMT
#3367
On October 25 2016 19:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 19:35 Koshi wrote:
Well I figured that out. Was fun.


imo kill Vivax/Luna first. Afterthat ritoky/sicklucker/skynx/Acro. the ones who don't die and don't have damage done to them. If sicklucker is town, he should check heroes for being full hp.

Endgame it is up to people to find the mafia in LT/Hama and others. If WoS is mafia it is perfect for him that he can't post. I almost can't believe it lasts till forever. sicklucker probably knows it only last for 1 phase or so. Rupture isn't forever.

I think sicklucker is town. What do you think about my reasoning, 1-3 pages ago?

I think he is playing extremely bad and I didn't forget his waffle on me. So he can die.
If he is town he should do exactly what I say.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 25 2016 16:46 GMT
#3491
I am going to die so you people can read my pm. To not break the rules I will say, people that attack me get 5 damage, and this is confirmed by btdt getting 3 times 5 damage when he attacked me.

But again. You can read it yourselves soon enough.

On October 25 2016 23:52 Acrofales wrote:
Koshi: is your action refunded if you get roleblocked? Why didn't you claim roleblocked FIRST THING rather than wine about the damage you took?

I wondered about 2 things.
1) Why didn't my ulti go through
2) Why did I get so much damage.

1) I still don't know because this game has a closed set up and all kind of shit can happen. But my opinion is that I got stunned by something and due to BM saying I did 5 damage to Artanis I believe people around me attacked me. Winter Wyvern just makes sense to me. So if somewhere in the game you copcheck somebody and he is WW just murder him. Also, I can't be RB'ed. So I knew it wasn't that.

2) I didn't know what happened to my ulti so I just ignored that for the time being, thought it was tied to the darkness thing, thought the night kinda came early so the EoD resolution just didn't happen, anyway, I was upset about getting so much damage so I whined about that. I felt I played a very townie D2. Almost cheated my way to confirmed town status, but you people are really just too dense.


PS: I still have my ulti. That I know.
PSII: RIP Koshi
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 11:40 GMT
#3765
I healed myself. Shouldn't really count as me visiting myself but w.e I guess.
Not sure if I believe ritokys claim but at least I correctly read him as not town. Really suspicious I got hit so much each day and now suddenly nobody comes to finish me off when there is a watcher ward on me. Could be that mafia tried to frame a townie killing me.

I still have my double lynch but it can probably be stopped by mafia. I am 100% sure I got stunned yesterday and that the people around me attacked me. Even if you don't believe me, it is what happened. It makes too much sense. btdt flipped town and CONFIRMED getting 5 damage D1, N1, D2 each time he attacked me. iamp and artanis CONFIRMED getting 5 damage D2. For me it is CONFIRMED I got hit for 30ish D2 alone. What else can it be?

##vote Vivax

For me the core of the mafia team is still Skynx/Luna/Vivax.



PS I still have to read some pages but wanted to make a quick post.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 11:42 GMT
#3767
On October 26 2016 20:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
you could be scum. but luckily it's not actually up to you what we do

dont be scared by his bs retaliation claims, and even if it was true, murdering him is the right play anyway. i can take 5 or whatever to get rid of the SK, and so can you. saves more hp in the long run anyway.
absolutely no reason that even if he WAS honest (nope) to assume artanis is smart enough to kill mafia for us, so negotiations are over.

Is this about me now?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 26 2016 12:13 GMT
#3794
Do we know what happened to LT?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 26 2016 12:20 GMT
#3797
I don't believe 2 different 3ps that disappear if they achieve their wincon. Really fishy balance later in the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 12:20 GMT
#3798
I'll think of it while working. But last game we also had 2 people claiming 3p and 1 was town and 1 was mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 12:36 GMT
#3799
ritoky claims that placing an item that he got from the hosts costed his entire turn? I find that hard to believe.

-He claims to be 3p
-He gets an item completely useless to his role.
-He gets an item that is solely "pro-town" as 3p, sounds like backseat modding and I don't think they would do that.
-The item does completely nothing, I was hit for tons each day and then right when I am about to die nothing happens.
-The item sees I heal myself? Which seems like a tracker and not a watcher. Which is pretty cool so I am confirmed not doing bad things.


Ritoky should be forced to claim his wincon to the smallest details. Because even with mafia killing each day 3 townies, the game still lasts long enough for him to make 5, even 6 copies. Unless Vivax is not mafia and we decide to not lynch mafia 3 more times after that. Which I don't believe at all.

If Vivax flips town, Ritoky should always be the next lynch. Not that a single hair on my head thinks that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 12:40 GMT
#3800
My point is that I find it very hard to believe hosts gave him an item that is not beneficial for his role, just to help town which he for some reason feels is "forced" to do, that item costed his entire turn, and then ended up not seeing anybody kill me and see me flip town.

Extremely unlikely.


The mafia counterstory:
Mafia has a watcher, ritoky claims his actions as his own to gain towncred especially if I get killed because then they can even push a misslynch, ritoky himself does bad things during the night.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 12:44 GMT
#3801
Artanis his role looks complicated enough to be believable atm.

Can you claim how many achievements you need to complete and how many you already did complete?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 12:44 GMT
#3802
Artanis should be forced to always claim when he achieves something. So we can keep track and maybe help him to see if he lies.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 12:46 GMT
#3804
On October 26 2016 21:45 ptmc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 21:36 Koshi wrote:
ritoky claims that placing an item that he got from the hosts costed his entire turn? I find that hard to believe.

I believe him

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm ok then. That is just weird though. Why force somebody to waste a turn?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 12:47 GMT
#3806
On October 26 2016 21:45 ptmc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 21:36 Koshi wrote:
ritoky claims that placing an item that he got from the hosts costed his entire turn? I find that hard to believe.

I believe him


Still, you believe he is actually 3p meepo that just clones himself and then gets removed from the game?

That sounds fucking stupid as fuck no?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 12:48 GMT
#3808
On October 26 2016 21:46 Dandel Ion wrote:
claim he needs 10 wincons
'oops guys not quite there yet'
'nope still not quite, just do random thing X for me'
'i guess that wasn't enough! let me just kill a coulpe people'

i can see into the future.

Well, force him to claim so we can put on the bullshit detector at least.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 12:52 GMT
#3811
On October 26 2016 21:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 21:48 Koshi wrote:
On October 26 2016 21:46 Dandel Ion wrote:
claim he needs 10 wincons
'oops guys not quite there yet'
'nope still not quite, just do random thing X for me'
'i guess that wasn't enough! let me just kill a coulpe people'

i can see into the future.

Well, force him to claim so we can put on the bullshit detector at least.

join me in punching him
he'll sing pretty soon.

Why do you believe ritoky his claim over Artanis?

Artanis his role I can understand the mechanics.

What does ritoky do?

N1 Clone (tell the game on clone account he is 3p)
N2 Clone
N3 Clone
N4 Clone
D5 win and remove from game?


EXCITING!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 12:59 GMT
#3815
On October 26 2016 07:07 ritoky wrote:
This town is such a trainwreck that they are probably going to lose before I can complete my win condition, so I sacrificed a night of cloning to use this sentry ward that I somehow got. Koshi should have been a prime target for information but people are mind-bogglingly dumb I suppose.

Unless there is also a 3p vendor in the game it is the hosts.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 13:11 GMT
#3831
On October 26 2016 22:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 21:59 Koshi wrote:
On October 26 2016 07:07 ritoky wrote:
This town is such a trainwreck that they are probably going to lose before I can complete my win condition, so I sacrificed a night of cloning to use this sentry ward that I somehow got. Koshi should have been a prime target for information but people are mind-bogglingly dumb I suppose.

Unless there is also a 3p vendor in the game it is the hosts.

Oh you were right he did 'just get it.'
that is weird.


I'm still not concerning myself with 3P claims over sure scum yet.

Ignoring them is bad play. Look at iamp in Palmar Themed game.
Pressure them hard and learn everything they can do or kill them.
Then they are forced to claim everything or play against their wincon.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 13:12 GMT
#3835
On October 26 2016 22:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Random thought:
Is there anything we can learn from vivax's filter? He did post a little before end of D1. And I know it's scum and unflipped association and whatnot but I'm curious.

We could, but we could also use this time to focus on 3p and do that tomorrow. 96 hours left in that day as well.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 13:12 GMT
#3836
When I say 96 I meant 72. N3 + D4
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 17:37 GMT
#4002
On October 27 2016 00:06 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 22:11 Koshi wrote:
On October 26 2016 22:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 26 2016 21:59 Koshi wrote:
On October 26 2016 07:07 ritoky wrote:
This town is such a trainwreck that they are probably going to lose before I can complete my win condition, so I sacrificed a night of cloning to use this sentry ward that I somehow got. Koshi should have been a prime target for information but people are mind-bogglingly dumb I suppose.

Unless there is also a 3p vendor in the game it is the hosts.

Oh you were right he did 'just get it.'
that is weird.


I'm still not concerning myself with 3P claims over sure scum yet.

Ignoring them is bad play. Look at iamp in Palmar Themed game.
Pressure them hard and learn everything they can do or kill them.
Then they are forced to claim everything or play against their wincon.

This makes sense. And Koshi can be scum AND saying these things at the same time. I'm so happy

What a shit comment.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 17:43 GMT
#4003
On October 26 2016 13:07 GlowingBear wrote:
WoS, dandelion, skynx, Exo, lunaticman

Probs mafia team

Vivax, Acrofoles, skynx, ritoky, lunaticman
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 17:47 GMT
#4005
On October 26 2016 15:49 ExO_ wrote:
The first thing I notice is this. On day 1 we had:

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 22 2016 03:39 disformation wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1


Vivax (5): Tubesock, iamperfection, Hopeless1der, Koshi, Acrofales, Dandel Ion
Lunaticman (4): ritoky, Koshi, HamazuraXTakitsubo, sicklucker, Skynx
Koshi (3): Lunaticman, beentheredonethat, Skynx
ritoky (2): Holyflare, Koshi, GlowingBear
Kurumi (2): Kurumi, iamperfection, Lord Tolkien, Bill Murray
WaveofShadow (1): ExO_, Bill Murray, ptmc
Dandel Ion (1): beentheredonethat, ExO_
Lord Tolkien (1): Kurumi
Tictock (1); Vivax
Rels (0): Vivax
ptmc (0): WaveofShadow
Skynx (0): Koshi, Acrofales
iamperfection (0): Acrofales
Holyflare (0): Bill Murray
beentheredonethat (0): Dandel Ion, WaveofShadow
Hopeless1der (0): Koshi, Acrofales, Skynx
ExO_ (0): Dandel Ion, iamperfection

Not voted (4): Tictock, Rels, Eversince, WaveofShadow

It looks like Vivax is about to be owned.
Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00) and resolves one hour later, at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.



HF came in and voted TT, and then you have iamp, Tubesock, Dandel, Ritoky all within 5 minutes of each other. This made him the lead wagon at 7 votes, with lunatic man being 2nd closest at 3. Tubesock then bails for Koshi, a few other random votes happen, before BM/Koshi/bndt all come in to seal the deal.

On day 2 Vivax was basically a lock, before lunatic started really picking up some steam. TS says some really interesting things in this time period:

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 25 2016 02:48 Tubesock wrote:
I don't think Lunatic is mafia. But I don't have any solid reasons. Mostly I didn't like the wagon yesterday.

##Unvote
##Vote: Vivax

##Vote: Skynx


On October 25 2016 03:39 Tubesock wrote:
I think Luna is town. I won't vote for him. Looking through his filter, I tried to gather his reads.

Towns:
beentheredonethat
1 of Koshi/Artanis (and only because of dead HF)
I think that's it.

Scums:
HolyFlare
Koshi
(if not Koshi then Artanis[Xp] and 100% sheep of HF)

I don't know Lunaticman. Never played with him. But if he is mafia, is he lunatic enough to tunnel hard on 2 strong willed players? Like right out the gate. He immediately votes Koshi, then still within the first 12 hours or so of the game he starts on HF. And Never leaves either of them the ENTIRE time. He's still on Koshi. Mafia or town, going headstrong on HF kinda means you just may die. Lunaticman attacks and goes after him.

He doesn't veer off from them. WHich i think is towny too. I know when I start thinking strongly that someone is mafia, I get more obstinate. It pretty much dominates my conversation if no one is listening or agreeing. There was shade on HF when he wasn't playing. Then he did and everyone thought he was town (otherwise why follow his TT case?). Lunatic still scum'd him till HF died. He had perfect opportunity to town HF and get off HF's bad side and still look good for going up against him. But town doesn't do that.

I spoiled a few of his posts but not all. The ones I skipped either were repeats of earlier posts (like HF is scum for making him appear bad) etc.

I think his main crime isn't putting in 12 hours a day here and only giving 5 player reads. Maybe a bit defensive but I've seen worse from town.

Lunaticman is town.


+ Show Spoiler [1st post votes Koshi] +
On October 20 2016 19:32 Lunaticman wrote:
I just can't handle more of Koshi's platitudes. Obvious scum play as usual.

#Vote Koshi


+ Show Spoiler [towns beenthere] +
On October 20 2016 21:30 Lunaticman wrote:
The tone of beentheredonethat reads as town to me, putting him in my town circle for now.

+ Show Spoiler [Fear reads HF, next post scums HF] +
On October 21 2016 01:22 Lunaticman wrote:
HF, looking like town but I'm not ready to buy what's on sale yet. Still have trust issues with you.

On October 21 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:
On October 21 2016 03:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
apparantly you're not the only one

at this point i'd be happy just finding out what his posts mean


Well it relates to Lunatic in some way right? Lunatic's filter is very scummy.

Also ritoky is definitely mafia.


That is some shady accusations without any reasons and I beg to differ greatly. I have been on point, I think you are trying to undermine my credibility. Typical mafia play.

Second mafia is probably HF after Koshi.

+ Show Spoiler [angst spirit] +
On October 21 2016 04:39 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 03:33 Holyflare wrote:
On October 21 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:
On October 21 2016 03:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
apparantly you're not the only one

at this point i'd be happy just finding out what his posts mean


Well it relates to Lunatic in some way right? Lunatic's filter is very scummy.

Also ritoky is definitely mafia.


Yeh, pmtc or whatever his name is pretty on point. Lunatic's read on koshi was after everyone else started calling out koshi.

Lunatic's other reads are one liners that are throwaway comments despite making a post that only important things should be posted. Then he calls me town and mafia like to do that.


Stop sheeping and undermining me, I was meta reading Koshi independently from anyone, in fact bt was sheeping my read not the other way around.

HF is obviously trying to make me look scum.

On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 03:19 Holyflare wrote:
On October 21 2016 03:17 beentheredonethat wrote:
Holyflare, you've been in a game scum with Koshi and town with Koshi. Please skim his filter and tell me if you also think he's scum.


I already mentioned he could be mafia, yes.

I'd like you to talk about other people though.


Covering for your scum buddy I see.

+ Show Spoiler [defensive] +
On October 21 2016 04:46 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 04:46 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Oh I forgot about Luna

hardcore bus entry vs Koshi yeah?


I didn't buss anyone.


What, over the course of 2 hours, made you flip your read on HF?


I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why.

On October 21 2016 04:50 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 04:48 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:46 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:46 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:42 Lunaticman wrote:
On October 21 2016 04:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Oh I forgot about Luna

hardcore bus entry vs Koshi yeah?


I didn't buss anyone.


What, over the course of 2 hours, made you flip your read on HF?


I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why.


So omgus?


haha yes you can say it like that if you want but it is more the way it was done. No reasoning just undermining my credibility with no reason and ignoring it as soon as possible, changing the subject from Koshi etc.

+ Show Spoiler [More HF Scum] +
On October 22 2016 18:39 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 18:35 Holyflare wrote:
Scummy:

Skynx (list post struck me as wrong but can't place finger on it)
Lunaticman (crap tunnel based on nothing followed by nothing)
ExO_ (why)
Kurumi
Vivax
Koshi
GlowingBear
WaveofShadow



Null:

Bill Murray (said atrocious things all game but some hidden le gems)

Artanis (maybe up to scummy soon)

Btdt (artanis making me hesitant but deadline stuff was scummy)

Hamazura (need more)

Acrofales (not read at all but i don't think towny whenever read what he says)

ritoky (i think he tried to pocket me with gb/luna read but playing too stiff maybe move to scummy)

Lord Tolkien (hesitant to remove but probably should based on dmg on wave)

Tubesock (zzzz?)



HF this entire post is just undermining town authority, not one real target just suspicion on an endless merry go around. Your playing exactly like Koshi.

You also spend to much time mining credibility from other players making sure to get on their good side and playing on your reputation.

For example why are there no townies on your list? That is more important than 6 different scum reads that amount to nothing.

A more productive move would be to try to analyze how the wagon formed and why. That way we could probably see if Koshi was indeed saved by a scum mate or not.

On October 22 2016 19:07 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 18:54 Holyflare wrote:
I also literally just told you how the wagon formed, it was me. I also talked about btdt's actioms at deadline whicj you just undermined for no reason.

You're all talk and no substance.


Chill, maybe I was a bit vague.

I wanted you to elaborate a bit more on the "case" from your perspective and why the miss lynch was so successful. So I can analyze if you are indeed town or not.

For example you look extremely scummy for saving Koshi and miss lynching. I also find it disturbing that even though you haven't contributed with anything productive for the town expect a miss lynch you still seem to want to be the town leader.

Everything I have seen from you points to you being mafia, especially from a meta perspective.

The only thing I find a bit lenient is that town tends to make more mistakes than mafia so that's nice I suppose.

+ Show Spoiler [Koshi/Art 1 is mafia] +
On October 24 2016 00:10 Lunaticman wrote:
There is one scum between Koshi/Artanis we have to put trust in HF:s read. I'm sorry I ever doubted you HF! <3

On October 24 2016 23:48 Lunaticman wrote:
Also either of Art and Koshi are mafia so you remember when I die.


The really interesting thing here is these posts are about 50 minutes apart. Instead of seeing something then drawing a conclusion based on what he saw, TS first drew the conclusion that lunaticman is town, then found the evidence to back it up.

I find TS highly suspicious.He hops off the Vivax wagon (after being the first to vote him), and then he hops off the TT wagon day 1 as soon as it got a majority. He defends lunaticman as the lunatic wagon is gaining steam on day 2. And then surprise No lynch on day 2. I think this heavily implicates Tubesock. I could see Lunaticman being either scum or town here. It makes a lot more sense to me if Lunaticman is scum, as it would explain why day 2 ends without a lynch with the threat of Koshi's Double lynch. However for me to accept this idea Koshi has to be telling the truth. I can't stand playing with Koshi b/c of how intolerable he is to everyone. It makes me think he's a lying and scum even when he is telling the truth.

On the other side of the coin, I could also see TS making a case for Lunaticman in an attempt to earn towncred for later. But then I'm left with the question: why did day 2 end without a lynch? Maybe scum didn't end the day maybe it was a 3rd party role? Or maybe Vivax is scum and the move was purely to keep him alive?...hmmm I'm not sure.

Either way, my initial thoughts are that TS looks very scummy to me. I think I'm gonna check out Koshi now. But I think TS is my strongest scum read after Vivax.

Exo is also possible town. The guy looks lost in the grand scheme but this is a solid read and with the follow up it is clear he believes in his read.

I don't think TS is mafia though.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 17:52 GMT
#4007
On October 27 2016 02:50 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 02:22 Acrofales wrote:
But for real. It's time for info. Why did you visit H1? What happened? Who have you visited since (and why haven't you moved for it).


I didn't visit hopeless a single time.

I did investigate ptmc, ritoky, and Hama. I was rolenlocked while visiting ptmc.

and? What was ritoky and hama?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 17:54 GMT
#4008
On October 27 2016 02:20 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 02:17 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 27 2016 00:27 Acrofales wrote:
On October 26 2016 23:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 26 2016 13:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Here's another fun couple of questions for you because I'm bored:

What happened to you last night, and why haven't you claimed any attacks?


Last night I forgot to take action and I didn't do a single attack in this game

What did you do d1? Your movement is unexplained. I think you hit H1der...


I have an investigative skill which I've been using.

You're mafia's rolecop? Who's what? Maybe you can help the SK Artanis fulfill his mission and bugger off.

↑ sounds like nervous scum to me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 17:57 GMT
#4009
20 mins and nobody is here?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 18:00 GMT
#4011
On October 27 2016 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 02:52 Koshi wrote:
On October 27 2016 02:50 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 27 2016 02:22 Acrofales wrote:
But for real. It's time for info. Why did you visit H1? What happened? Who have you visited since (and why haven't you moved for it).


I didn't visit hopeless a single time.

I did investigate ptmc, ritoky, and Hama. I was rolenlocked while visiting ptmc.

and? What was ritoky and hama?


Phew. I'll come clean. I'm 3p. One of my win con is to find my enemies and eliminate them. I have an investigative role that says if certain person is my enemy or not. They are not my enemies.
My other win con is to survive until the end of the game

Ok sorry for my previous support. You can die.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 18:01 GMT
#4012
There is fucking 2 more 3p claims and you put 0 of them in your scumlist. How many 3p do you think there are?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 18:03 GMT
#4013
The only thing that saves iamp is his filter. Last game he played he was mafia and claimed 3p so he could just do nothing the entire game. This game he was a bit critical towards ritoky but nothing more.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 18:08 GMT
#4014
Vivax, Acrofoles, skynx, ritoky, lunaticman, sicklucker, hama, kurumi, Bill Murray

I have to work from this list. I think sicklucker is also more likely mafia than not.
Who started the rumor there are only 5 mafia? Is this confirmed?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 18:10 GMT
#4017
On October 26 2016 15:27 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 15:17 sicklucker wrote:
anyone who didnt attack vivax last night is probably not town. I mean bm I hard defended you all game but this is absurd

oh shut up
he was obviously going to be lynched and i dont trust youre not scum with that post restriction ability

For somebody who is hard scumreading SL this is a very meek post.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 18:15 GMT
#4020
On October 27 2016 03:12 ptmc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 03:08 Koshi wrote:
Vivax, Acrofoles, skynx, ritoky, lunaticman, sicklucker, hama, kurumi, Bill Murray

I have to work from this list. I think sicklucker is also more likely mafia than not.
Who started the rumor there are only 5 mafia? Is this confirmed?

it's not (afaik)

Who do you think is town from that list?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 18:16 GMT
#4021
Holy fuck and I forgot GB again.

Vivax, Acrofoles, skynx, ritoky, lunaticman, sicklucker, hama, kurumi, Bill Murray, GB

So bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 18:21 GMT
#4024
On October 22 2016 13:39 HamazuraXTakitsubo wrote:
We were supposed to be in the night phase now right? Can anyone explain what happened to that?

Let's call this guy town. He was also arguing with HF during the night. Don't think a newb scum would do that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 18:24 GMT
#4027
On October 27 2016 03:19 ptmc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 03:16 Koshi wrote:
Holy fuck and I forgot GB again.

Vivax, Acrofoles, skynx, ritoky, lunaticman, sicklucker, hama, kurumi, Bill Murray, GB

So bad.

gut feels from least likely to most:
SL, BM(seems too uninvested, claims to not even do night actions), Hama(is he even still alive?), Acro, Skynx, Ritoky, Kurumi,
as good as confirmed:
GB, Luna, Vivax

Yeah BM looks extremely clueless in his filter. As mafia he would more likely have an idea.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 18:25 GMT
#4029
On October 27 2016 03:22 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 03:21 Koshi wrote:
On October 22 2016 13:39 HamazuraXTakitsubo wrote:
We were supposed to be in the night phase now right? Can anyone explain what happened to that?

Let's call this guy town. He was also arguing with HF during the night. Don't think a newb scum would do that.

Let's call him yawn-modkillbait instead.

Why are you trying so hard as mafia?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 18:26 GMT
#4030
On October 27 2016 03:25 iamperfection wrote:
Bm usually spams though no? Perhaps 5th party.

Pretty sure the counter with him is on 6 atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 18:34 GMT
#4036
On October 27 2016 03:26 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 02:54 Koshi wrote:
On October 27 2016 02:20 Acrofales wrote:
On October 27 2016 02:17 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 27 2016 00:27 Acrofales wrote:
On October 26 2016 23:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 26 2016 13:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Here's another fun couple of questions for you because I'm bored:

What happened to you last night, and why haven't you claimed any attacks?


Last night I forgot to take action and I didn't do a single attack in this game

What did you do d1? Your movement is unexplained. I think you hit H1der...


I have an investigative skill which I've been using.

You're mafia's rolecop? Who's what? Maybe you can help the SK Artanis fulfill his mission and bugger off.

↑ sounds like nervous scum to me.

Case me. I'm bored town waiting for your scumbuddy Vivax to flip. Then we can wait another 72 hours for GB to flip. So trolling the scummers is my entertainment right now. It's why I'm entertaining you too. Case me up!

oh btw, me healing myself (or visiting myself), how does that work with me being Balanar and being melee etc? Which was 80% of your shitcase.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 26 2016 21:13 GMT
#4098
On October 27 2016 06:06 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 06:04 Dandel Ion wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:03 Acrofales wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:02 Dandel Ion wrote:
if he can do it any time
why dont you just
like shoot him

Because we get removed from the game, and I want to post!

just shoot the guy

to encourage you, i'm not going to even read your posts anymore and just generally ignore you.

I thought we were friends.

But for real, I have been really pro-town. My reads are all real. The only one I might have exaggerated because it was easier than actually trying to figure it out is Koshi. He's too bizar to make sense of.

You fucker. I am town.
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October 26 2016 21:14 GMT
#4100
Oh boy. So ritoky is confirmed mafia now for me.
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October 26 2016 21:14 GMT
#4102
Does anybody know how to kill meepo? Do we lynch ritoky?
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October 26 2016 21:14 GMT
#4104
On October 27 2016 06:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 06:12 Acrofales wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:04 Acrofales wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm really starting to wonder if there's any scum actually in the game.

It's not a bastard game (at least, it doesn't say so in the OP). So yes.

A bunch of 3rd parties could be considered an alternative to mafia though?

You're not making a case for yourself being a benevolent 3P... a bunch of separate 3Ps *could* take the place of a scumteam, but only if they are malevolent: cultists, SKs, stuff like that.

I know that GB and I are not like that. We had our own little game, and we will be out of the picture soon.

Just trying to explore the wtf so many 3rd party angle. It doesn't even make any sense for my own role since I can win with both town and scum so I'm not even making any sense to myself @_@

Why do you believe ritoky is 3p?
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Koshi
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October 26 2016 21:17 GMT
#4110
Hmm I forgot to vote.

Anybody up for killing ritoky?
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October 26 2016 21:17 GMT
#4111
On October 27 2016 06:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Or Lunatic. Forgot all about Lunatic.
Lunatic or Kurumi? Which is the better shot?

Let's go Lunatic. We can kill him.
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Koshi
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October 26 2016 21:18 GMT
#4112
##unvote
##vote Lunatic
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October 26 2016 21:19 GMT
#4117
On October 27 2016 06:16 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 06:14 Koshi wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:12 Acrofales wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:04 Acrofales wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm really starting to wonder if there's any scum actually in the game.

It's not a bastard game (at least, it doesn't say so in the OP). So yes.

A bunch of 3rd parties could be considered an alternative to mafia though?

You're not making a case for yourself being a benevolent 3P... a bunch of separate 3Ps *could* take the place of a scumteam, but only if they are malevolent: cultists, SKs, stuff like that.

I know that GB and I are not like that. We had our own little game, and we will be out of the picture soon.

Just trying to explore the wtf so many 3rd party angle. It doesn't even make any sense for my own role since I can win with both town and scum so I'm not even making any sense to myself @_@

Why do you believe ritoky is 3p?

Because ritoky claimed 3P Meepo?

Can't you just remove GB and yourself now?
It would make my life more pleasant.

Also removes 2 scum candidates.
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October 26 2016 21:20 GMT
#4118
On October 27 2016 02:43 Koshi wrote:
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On October 26 2016 13:07 GlowingBear wrote:
WoS, dandelion, skynx, Exo, lunaticman

Probs mafia team

Vivax, Acrofoles, skynx, ritoky, lunaticman

I am pretty much 5/5 anti town
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October 26 2016 21:21 GMT
#4121
I am going to assume the scumteam is 4 people now.
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October 26 2016 21:23 GMT
#4125
On October 27 2016 06:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh and I'm almost completely certain now that the reason hamazura hasn't been modkilled is because scum team is smaller than normal and he's scum

You saw my read? I doubt he is mafia.
Could be, but he towntelled.
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October 26 2016 21:26 GMT
#4128
On October 27 2016 06:25 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 06:20 Koshi wrote:
On October 27 2016 02:43 Koshi wrote:
On October 26 2016 13:07 GlowingBear wrote:
WoS, dandelion, skynx, Exo, lunaticman

Probs mafia team

Vivax, Acrofoles, skynx, ritoky, lunaticman

I am pretty much 5/5 anti town

This came after ritoky claimed and I am not anti-town. So poo.

I have been calling ritoky mafia since D1 so it counts. And he is mafia and not 3p.
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October 26 2016 21:26 GMT
#4129
Also you have been pushing me the entire game so you are anti town.


OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


BTW


ARTANIS


IS Winter Wyvern in the game?
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October 26 2016 21:31 GMT
#4132
On October 27 2016 06:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On October 27 2016 06:26 Koshi wrote:
Also you have been pushing me the entire game so you are anti town.


OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


BTW


ARTANIS


IS Winter Wyvern in the game?

Not on my list of heroes of interest.

Ok, you should have lied. Not cool bro.
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October 26 2016 21:31 GMT
#4133
I am still certain that hero is in the game and it is mafia.
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October 26 2016 21:45 GMT
#4144
On October 27 2016 06:44 Acrofales wrote:
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On October 27 2016 06:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
This seems pretty silly tbh
They just shoot into the last few remaining active townies and auto win

Hey, don't blame me. I soaked up a shitload of scum KP last night.

Do you know how much?
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October 26 2016 21:48 GMT
#4151
On October 27 2016 06:46 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 06:45 Koshi wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:44 Acrofales wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
This seems pretty silly tbh
They just shoot into the last few remaining active townies and auto win

Hey, don't blame me. I soaked up a shitload of scum KP last night.

Do you know how much?

No, but I was at 49 before last night, and when I flip you'll figure out why I don't know how much

So I guess you are on 0 and are going to die this phase anyway or something? Lucky you.
I had a good night of sleep.
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October 26 2016 21:48 GMT
#4153
On October 27 2016 06:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'll just name the others.
Juggernaut, Riki, Meepo, Oracle.
We've already got a meepo claim from ritoky and an oracle claim from hopeless.

What do you need to do vs Meepo?
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Koshi
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October 26 2016 21:50 GMT
#4157
Anyway. Also afk.

Acrofoles just shoot GB now pls.
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October 27 2016 09:49 GMT
#4197
On October 27 2016 09:35 Bill Murray wrote:
Should I claim

only claim 3p.

PS: if you claim 3p, claim everything in detail as far as the rules allow it.
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Koshi
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October 27 2016 09:51 GMT
#4198
On October 27 2016 18:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
wasnt there some movement wonkiness with somebody else n1 too?

skynx i believe
so that's possible


@koshi you said you still had that vote damage thing yeah?
@sicklucker you totally can amplify damage this phase yeah? does it only work on basic attacks, or is there SYNERGY with, say, the thing noted above.

Yes. 6-7 votes on somebody should do it. Unless they are centaur, bristleback and or have resistance passive. But it should work. In theory.
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October 27 2016 13:43 GMT
#4236
I attacked GB D1.
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October 27 2016 18:00 GMT
#4282
Good thing I sent in my action this afternoon already.
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October 27 2016 18:41 GMT
#4312
On October 28 2016 03:02 ptmc wrote:
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On October 28 2016 03:00 Koshi wrote:
Good thing I sent in my action this afternoon already.

just change it? or what do you mean

Ah no. Just couldn't get to computer till now. It's ok. Not important.
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Koshi
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October 27 2016 19:58 GMT
#4330
Everything going to plan bois.
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Koshi
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October 28 2016 10:15 GMT
#4452
Hmm. Luna not flipping scum is really bad for us.
My earlier reads still stand.
Lynch Skynx/ritoky.
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Koshi
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October 28 2016 16:20 GMT
#4466
I am bored.
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October 28 2016 16:26 GMT
#4467
On October 28 2016 09:15 Tubesock wrote:
I'll attack Koshi tonight.

o rly
Missed this first time around.
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Koshi
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October 28 2016 16:27 GMT
#4468
How can I even be mafia when I have the counter to the no lynch. I am as good as setup confirmed town.
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October 28 2016 16:29 GMT
#4469
I think that the setup was that on D2 I should have lynched the second wagon and the first wagon could be saved by mafia. But I got hard countered due to claiming.
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Koshi
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October 28 2016 16:30 GMT
#4470
Well. I am pretty sure.

Anyway, continuing reading TS.
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October 28 2016 16:33 GMT
#4471
On October 28 2016 10:06 Tubesock wrote:
You need to lynch me. I won't die to KP

This comment is weird. It seems like it is directed to mafia (to taunt them), but TS townreads sl. So likely mafia!TS vs town!sl.
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October 28 2016 16:38 GMT
#4473
On October 25 2016 07:07 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 07:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Wtf happened? Koshi?
Also I got dealt 5 damage somehow.


someone attacked you.

I attacked Skynx.

Tonight I attack either Vivax or Koshi. Koshi was hit for 30 yesterday so is already wounded.


On October 28 2016 09:15 Tubesock wrote:
I'll attack Koshi tonight.

Why do you want to constantly attack me? Do you think I am mafia? And if I am, why? Because I don't read anything about that in your filter. The opposite even.
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Koshi
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October 28 2016 16:40 GMT
#4474
I think mafia knew I was really really low on N2 and planted that sentry ward there to frame a townie. Would have died if btdt attacked me a 4th time in a row.
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October 28 2016 16:40 GMT
#4475
sicklucker did you use your hp thing tonight? On who? And why are we not hearing anything of it?
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October 28 2016 16:42 GMT
#4476
Tubesock, how many times did you attack ExO this game?
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October 28 2016 16:42 GMT
#4477
For me TS is mafia if he never did.
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Koshi
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October 28 2016 16:45 GMT
#4479
I hope town has some decent damage left. Or Artanis. Kinda need to start killing mafia each turn.
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October 28 2016 16:46 GMT
#4480
On October 29 2016 01:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
One of my abilities is basically a greencheck on someone. I can instakill someone and I doubt that's on a mafia but I'm gonna sit on it for now.
Prob punching Skynx.

Are those 2 different abilities?
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October 28 2016 16:50 GMT
#4482
On October 29 2016 01:49 ptmc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 01:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
One of my abilities is basically a greencheck on someone. I can instakill someone and I doubt that's on a mafia but I'm gonna sit on it for now.
Prob punching Skynx.

why not green-check him?

+1. Is the insta killing bound to the greencheck?
Sounds really far fetched.
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October 28 2016 16:59 GMT
#4483
Like why would you hit somebody for little damage (self claimed) when you can do a check lol.
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October 28 2016 16:59 GMT
#4484
Goddamn and you were the only townread I had under all 3ps.

Don't disappoint me Artanis.
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October 28 2016 18:58 GMT
#4493
afk till very late.
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October 28 2016 22:34 GMT
#4544
##vote Skynx

We need to lynch mafia back to back now. Skynx --> Tubesock/kurumi
Will filterdive Vivax/Skynx looking for clues. When I am less drunk. Will be slow gmae anyway now.
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October 28 2016 22:35 GMT
#4545
On October 29 2016 07:27 ritoky wrote:
who gave me the sentry ward? that is the true mystery.

full claim + wincon pls.
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October 28 2016 22:38 GMT
#4546
Going to bed. gn.

PS: WoS you need to claim this shit at the end of the day. Not at the start. and gather clues. So bad.
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October 29 2016 10:59 GMT
#4772
On October 29 2016 19:33 sicklucker wrote:
bill murry your reads are not the worst but they are not mine. sheep me more. wave and iamp seem to be on the same page and koshi is useless

I have been saying skynx/ts/kurumi and all 3p are mafia since early d3. I only considered DI cuz his early spam. Took that read too long with me.

I am on phone this weekend. Wont post much. Imo we just lynch skynx and see what happens.
Tubesock is also fine. If skynx is full rilecopped and has no damage. Cuz he is killing me. But I heal more.
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Koshi
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October 29 2016 11:05 GMT
#4775
Well sl is not mafia. So dont get tunneled towards that read till end of game. Always lynch ts kurumi after skynx. Then ritoky if he is not out of the game.
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October 29 2016 11:46 GMT
#4779
On October 29 2016 20:14 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 20:05 Koshi wrote:
Well sl is not mafia. So dont get tunneled towards that read till end of game. Always lynch ts kurumi after skynx. Then ritoky if he is not out of the game.


How do you know he's not mafia?

Hisxplay comes more likely from town in lylo than a mafia trying to look good for shen it is 2vs1 endgame. Effort already started in the night, nor reason to buss entire team. Just needed 1 ml.

If he is mafia he took control perfect moment witht he idea to put himself supergood lategame by bussing his entire team and dragging this on for x more cycles. 2 much.work.

Inam not 100% but pretty good feeling this makes sense.



You on other hand can still be easily.mafia though.
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October 29 2016 22:01 GMT
#4801
On October 30 2016 06:02 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 07:34 Koshi wrote:
##vote Skynx

We need to lynch mafia back to back now. Skynx --> Tubesock/kurumi
Will filterdive Vivax/Skynx looking for clues. When I am less drunk. Will be slow gmae anyway now.

koshi might actually be bussing his partners and i like this. lynch kurumi next

Or Koshi is a really good and talented player and figured out the game before any claims D3.
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October 29 2016 22:02 GMT
#4802
+ Show Spoiler +
Yes I know what comments will follow.
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October 29 2016 22:02 GMT
#4803
+ Show Spoiler +
little fuckers
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October 30 2016 12:40 GMT
#4808
Ritoky can you kill kurumi?
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October 30 2016 12:40 GMT
#4809
With EoD?
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October 30 2016 14:49 GMT
#4813
On October 30 2016 22:26 sicklucker wrote:
well im using a basic attack on exo because no ones cordinating any attack and I assume were just gonna lynch skynx tube and kurimi in any order...

maybe in three turns if a miracle does not happen we can get a free mafia kill

Everybody should attack Exo then. Literally everybody.
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October 30 2016 19:53 GMT
#4822
On October 31 2016 03:40 ritoky wrote:
also does sl railing on about me being 3p w/o reading the thread dumbtell him as not mafia with iamp/koshi/ppl who read the thread?

meh wouldn't bet the game on this kinda reasoning.
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October 30 2016 19:54 GMT
#4823
Try to kill Kurumi.
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October 30 2016 21:54 GMT
#4847
Good job bois.
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October 30 2016 22:02 GMT
#4849
I ll read their filters later.
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October 30 2016 22:09 GMT
#4851
Pretty sure WoS, sicklucker, Koshi are confirmed. iamp maybe not.

Artanis/Ritoky might be SK. Last time LT this time Exo with a lot of hp who dies at day post.

Last 2 mafia in TS, Kurumi, Dandel.



And I am forgetting BM.
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October 30 2016 22:18 GMT
#4857
On October 31 2016 07:13 iamperfection wrote:
Like 2 scum get killed and your pissed off kurumi???????????????

lael I would be pissed off as well.
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October 30 2016 22:23 GMT
#4861
On October 31 2016 07:19 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 07:09 Koshi wrote:
Pretty sure WoS, sicklucker, Koshi are confirmed. iamp maybe not.

Artanis/Ritoky might be SK. Last time LT this time Exo with a lot of hp who dies at day post.

Last 2 mafia in TS, Kurumi, Dandel.



And I am forgetting BM.


sl confirmed how?

My previous post +
On October 29 2016 20:08 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 20:03 ExO_ wrote:
Why is it I go away for a bit and SL comes in and starts claiming I'm mafia left and right? I'm sorry I'm not the best player in this game but I did at least make an attempt to help town. idk what else you want me to do.

Regardless I still think Tube is mafia. He never did really explain adequately why he moved the way he did. For me that leaves

Tube/Kurumi/SL/Skynx as the most likely list of scum


notice put you at the bottom of the list and only include you if its a 5 mafia game and not a 4 mafia game. still mafia doe

+
On October 30 2016 22:26 sicklucker wrote:
well im using a basic attack on exo because no ones cordinating any attack and I assume were just gonna lynch skynx tube and kurimi in any order...

maybe in three turns if a miracle does not happen we can get a free mafia kill




Pretty much confirmed in my book.
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October 30 2016 22:25 GMT
#4863
On October 31 2016 07:24 iamperfection wrote:
I'm confirmed

You are right under the cool kids club. Sorry.
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October 30 2016 22:25 GMT
#4864
Unless you can explain to me why you are confirmed.
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October 30 2016 22:28 GMT
#4869
I am going to own some more face in DotA now.
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October 30 2016 23:22 GMT
#4893
On October 31 2016 08:14 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 19:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
youre just mad we're lynching your rolecop this cycle


Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 19:49 sicklucker wrote:
On October 29 2016 19:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
youre just mad we're lynching your rolecop this cycle


wave is my rolecop cringe


Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 19:49 sicklucker wrote:
On October 29 2016 19:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
youre just mad we're lynching your rolecop this cycle


wave is my rolecop cringe



read page 238 on i think its a slip. No where in this game did anyone think nightslaker was also a role cop I think. Espically since you told us he stopped koshis double lynch. Also I pretty much make him look like mafia the way he reacts to everything

I saw that post and something in my brain made a twitch but I just ignored it.
That is almost always a slip. I can't see how it isn't.
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October 30 2016 23:24 GMT
#4896
On October 31 2016 08:23 sicklucker wrote:
lol I cant believe exo died. I diddnt expect it I doubt mafia expected it. What is happening are we winning? I only did 9 damage thanks whoever helped with that

Going to assume ritoky is SK. Or Artanis.
We had a flip each dayphase.

Probably ritoky clones at night and kill at day.
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October 30 2016 23:26 GMT
#4901
On October 31 2016 08:25 sicklucker wrote:
I think if no one brought up the idea that skyx could be both a rolecop and the guy who stopped koshis double lynch then its 100% a slipp.

Because thats a crazy strong ability and its hard to think an town would ever think skynx is a rolecop there after are town rolecop claimed his abilitys already and left that party out. you know?

If it wasn't brought up anywhere he is mafia. Very simple.
Let's hear what he says.
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October 30 2016 23:27 GMT
#4904
On October 31 2016 08:27 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 08:24 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2016 08:23 sicklucker wrote:
lol I cant believe exo died. I diddnt expect it I doubt mafia expected it. What is happening are we winning? I only did 9 damage thanks whoever helped with that

Going to assume ritoky is SK. Or Artanis.
We had a flip each dayphase.

Probably ritoky clones at night and kill at day.


Ritoky already said he fake claimed 3rd.

OHHH in that case he must be town. Thank you.
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October 30 2016 23:30 GMT
#4907
On October 31 2016 08:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 08:24 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2016 08:23 sicklucker wrote:
lol I cant believe exo died. I diddnt expect it I doubt mafia expected it. What is happening are we winning? I only did 9 damage thanks whoever helped with that

Going to assume ritoky is SK. Or Artanis.
We had a flip each dayphase.

Probably ritoky clones at night and kill at day.

Artanis claimed SK ages ago.
Or some 3p equivalent

He claimed something completely different.
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Koshi
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October 30 2016 23:36 GMT
#4912
On October 31 2016 08:35 ritoky wrote:
how can i be an sk? i have proven clones in the thread as my night actions on 2 nights.....literally cannot be sk lol.

Don't pretend to be stupid.

What do you do during day?
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Koshi
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October 30 2016 23:38 GMT
#4913
Would be typical for town to still lose this to some bullshit. We have been lynching mafia every day now?
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Koshi
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October 30 2016 23:39 GMT
#4916
On October 31 2016 08:38 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 08:36 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2016 08:35 ritoky wrote:
how can i be an sk? i have proven clones in the thread as my night actions on 2 nights.....literally cannot be sk lol.

Don't pretend to be stupid.

What do you do during day?


auto attack people. claimed em all, attacked gb, attacked tubesock, attacked sl, attacked kurumi.

and you moved towards them each day?
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Koshi
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October 30 2016 23:40 GMT
#4917
Can somebody quote 3534?
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October 30 2016 23:49 GMT
#4932
On October 31 2016 08:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 06:39 Skynx wrote:
Kurumi is Bristleback.

This?

I don't think is evidence of SKynx claiming rolecop, Kurumi claimed it himself in thread.

Or was there another reason I was supposed to quote this?

Hmm. Ok.
Could mean Dandel is telling the truth if Kurumi didn't claim before this point.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 30 2016 23:57 GMT
#4937
On October 31 2016 08:44 ritoky wrote:
i mean all my actions can be accounted for except my n2 action. just follow my movements in day phase, see the clones on n1/n3. i have been pretty transparent outside of fake claiming 3p to avoid dmg/lynch.

my n2 action could be accounted for too if someone would fucking just admit to giving me the damn sentry ward. but apparently that is so super secret that they're going to take it to their grave.

Ok. Your story checks out then.
Acrofoles claimed the sentry ward was legit 1 turn to use.

Artanis is sk
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 00:00 GMT
#4942
On October 31 2016 08:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
well actually im not sure if you're scum or bad, it could still be koshi

sl on the other hand

Good strategy calling the confirmed townies mafia.

Who is mafia out of Kurumi/TS/BM? Artnais?
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 00:01 GMT
#4943
Anyway. I am off.


I would like to suggest mafia shoots the SK tonight. He killed Exo. You must be pissed about that.
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 00:09 GMT
#4944
1 more thing. If you can still heal or protect. Consider protecting me. Or WoS.
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 08:25 GMT
#4987
On October 31 2016 12:14 Bill Murray wrote:
bah. his dmg reduction actually correlates with mine on when he used it . n2 mine shifted from 25% to 50%

still there is like no universe where kurumi and i can both have that passive as scum

This is a slip right?
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 08:28 GMT
#4988
On October 31 2016 12:20 Bill Murray wrote:
accidentally posted this in the voting thread - sorry all
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 06:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 2


Vivax (10): iamperfection, Acrofales, Dandel Ion, Skynx, ExO_, Hopeless1der, Koshi, Tubesock, WaveofShadow, Bill Murray, Skynx, beentheredonethat, sicklucker, Tubesock, GlowingBear
Lunaticman (8): Koshi, ptmc, Koshi, Artanis[xP], Hopeless1der, Kurumi, ritoky, Lord Tolkien, beentheredonethat
Koshi (1): Lunaticman
Tubesock (1): Vivax
iamperfection (0): GlowingBear
HamazuraXTakitsubo (0): beentheredonethat
Lord Tolkien (0): Kurumi
Exo_ (0): Koshi
GlowingBear (0): Artanis[xP]
Skynx (0): Koshi, Hopeless1der, Skynx, Artanis[xP], Tubesock

Not voted (1): HamazuraXTakitsubo,

Well Vivax was about to be owned...but now we have a problem on our hands....


there has to have been a scum on the lunaticman wagon here
has to...
that would mean koshi, kurumi, ritoky, artanis
1 maybe 2 are scum probably just 1
i think artanis is assassin considering 2 would be stupid theres usually 3 assassins in this setup
so that leaves koshi, kurumi, ritoky
ritoky just pwned exo, he looks towny
so hes out
that leaves koshi and kurumi
koshi called the shot on exo
so hes out
that leaves kurumi as the mafia on the lunaticman wagon

This wasn't a real vote count because mafia knew the night would end early. On top of that, we were voting Lunatic with 8 because we had a double lynch.

But it is true that mafia tends to spread out.
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 09:30 GMT
#4990
On October 31 2016 18:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
So who are we hitting today?

It's night.
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 09:32 GMT
#4991
On October 31 2016 18:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
So who are we hitting today?

Oh you can hit at night. nvm.

Hit DI. Lynch Kurumi.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 09:33 GMT
#4992
Can you pinkie promise you are not SK?
+
Do you thnk there is an SK in the game?

If so. Who?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 10:42 GMT
#4997
Well. I think the chance on an SK are high and we need to get rid of him. Maybe DI is SK?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 10:44 GMT
#4998
Lynch mafia, kill SK. Win game.
Or other way around.
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 10:55 GMT
#5004
1 Artanis[Xp]
2 Koshi
3 Tubesock
4 iamperfection
5 Dandel Ion
7 Kurumi
8 ritoky
9 Bill Murray
10 sicklucker
12 WaveofShadow

10 players.

7 town
2 mafia
1 sk

worst case after night
5 town
2 mafia
1 sk

worst case after day and we lynch mafia
4 town
1 mafia
1 sk

worst case after night
2 town
1 mafia
1 sk

or if we can protect ourselves
3 town
1 mafia
1 sk

then after night
2 town
1 sk or mafia
2 vs 1 lylo


So town needs to and protect themselves and lynch antitown 4/5 lynches. Seems balanced.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 10:59 GMT
#5007
If mafia has any honour in their body they shoot 2 within ritoky/Artanis/DI. Probably the 2 that aren't mafia. If they fail to kill the SK, we will spend 100% of tomorrow lynching the SK.

If mafia shoots within Koshi/WoS/Sicklucker we lynch mafia.


Sweet deal if you ask me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 11:00 GMT
#5008
On October 31 2016 19:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 19:55 Koshi wrote:
1 Artanis[Xp]
2 Koshi
3 Tubesock
4 iamperfection
5 Dandel Ion
7 Kurumi
8 ritoky
9 Bill Murray
10 sicklucker
12 WaveofShadow

10 players.

7 town
2 mafia
1 sk

worst case after night
5 town
2 mafia
1 sk

worst case after day and we lynch mafia
4 town
1 mafia
1 sk

worst case after night
2 town
1 mafia
1 sk

or if we can protect ourselves
3 town
1 mafia
1 sk

then after night
2 town
1 sk or mafia
2 vs 1 lylo


So town needs to and protect themselves and lynch antitown 4/5 lynches. Seems balanced.

Given these stats and the nightstalker thing I doubt there's more than 2 antitown left.

6 vs 18 is pretty balanced if within the 6 they can shoot themselves.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 11:01 GMT
#5009
Town probably also had a shitton of checks and dps. But we didn't use it. Like lina and BM.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 11:02 GMT
#5010
This game actually looks pretty balanced. Just the cancer no lynch ultimate should have been something else. Like a vote rigger.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 11:11 GMT
#5012
On October 31 2016 20:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 19:59 Koshi wrote:
If mafia has any honour in their body they shoot 2 within ritoky/Artanis/DI. Probably the 2 that aren't mafia. If they fail to kill the SK, we will spend 100% of tomorrow lynching the SK.

If mafia shoots within Koshi/WoS/Sicklucker we lynch mafia.


Sweet deal if you ask me.

I am very curious how you plan on distinguishing between scum and an sk that may or may not even be in the game.

Reading filters / play game. Fact is, we know who is more likely sk and who is more likely mafia, we will go for more likely sk.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 11:11 GMT
#5013
Don't second guess this fair and legit way to end the game with a 2 vs 1 lylo.
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 11:34 GMT
#5015
On October 31 2016 20:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Of course I will, it's against my best interests as you people seem to think I can be an sk. It doesn't make any sense to avoid people who are likely mafia on an sk witch hunt when my role already included killing some players that for all I know could be town.

You claim you can't win this game at all. So how is it against YOUR best interest that town doesn't try to find an SK. You lose anyway right?

Or is that 0.1% chance suddenly way higher?

Chances are high that there is 6 antitown in this game, that is just proper balance. 5 makes less sense. But due to LT and Exo flipping it is very likely there is an SK in the game + 5 mafia. Or it is 4 mafia 1 sk, and we are looking really good atm.

So yes, we should consider lynching the SK because he probably has as much kp as the mafia team on his own. Or close to it. Lynching SK tomorrow actually makes it more likely for town to win than lynching mafia. And it's not that we are lynching townies to find the SK, we are lynching in the PoE pool but want to have a good chance to kill either SK or mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 11:38 GMT
#5016
On October 31 2016 18:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 18:33 Koshi wrote:
Can you pinkie promise you are not SK?
+
Do you thnk there is an SK in the game?

If so. Who?

I am not an SK.
I have no idea. I have barely paid attention to the game ever since figuring my chances of winning are .1%, which happened like 4 days ago or something


On October 31 2016 19:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 19:42 Koshi wrote:
Well. I think the chance on an SK are high and we need to get rid of him. Maybe DI is SK?

I dunno, DI hasn't really felt scummy to me. He hates playing as mafia and with the team we know so far that seems unlikely. Most likely the last people that need offing are in kurumi/tube.


This feels like you are pushing an agenda btw.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 11:40 GMT
#5018
You haven't read the thread but you can name 2 people who need to die. Also, since ritoky claimed to be town after all, what is your read on him now? Last time you said he wasn't town because he wasn't invested, but also not mafia, aka 3p. And now?
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 11:41 GMT
#5020
On October 31 2016 20:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 20:34 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2016 20:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Of course I will, it's against my best interests as you people seem to think I can be an sk. It doesn't make any sense to avoid people who are likely mafia on an sk witch hunt when my role already included killing some players that for all I know could be town.

You claim you can't win this game at all. So how is it against YOUR best interest that town doesn't try to find an SK. You lose anyway right?

Or is that 0.1% chance suddenly way higher?

Chances are high that there is 6 antitown in this game, that is just proper balance. 5 makes less sense. But due to LT and Exo flipping it is very likely there is an SK in the game + 5 mafia. Or it is 4 mafia 1 sk, and we are looking really good atm.

So yes, we should consider lynching the SK because he probably has as much kp as the mafia team on his own. Or close to it. Lynching SK tomorrow actually makes it more likely for town to win than lynching mafia. And it's not that we are lynching townies to find the SK, we are lynching in the PoE pool but want to have a good chance to kill either SK or mafia.

I still don't like getting lynched. I rather get endgamed. It's stupid but that's how it is.

Sure. Nobody likes to be lynched, but your streak is not getting lynched as town. And that wont be broken. I take it you are lynched as mafia before?

Also, "I don't like to be lynched so don't lynch me" is like the worst defense ever.
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 11:43 GMT
#5022
On October 31 2016 20:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 20:38 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2016 18:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 31 2016 18:33 Koshi wrote:
Can you pinkie promise you are not SK?
+
Do you thnk there is an SK in the game?

If so. Who?

I am not an SK.
I have no idea. I have barely paid attention to the game ever since figuring my chances of winning are .1%, which happened like 4 days ago or something


On October 31 2016 19:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 31 2016 19:42 Koshi wrote:
Well. I think the chance on an SK are high and we need to get rid of him. Maybe DI is SK?

I dunno, DI hasn't really felt scummy to me. He hates playing as mafia and with the team we know so far that seems unlikely. Most likely the last people that need offing are in kurumi/tube.


This feels like you are pushing an agenda btw.

Except the post afterwards I already rescind and note how DI would make sense as mafia?

Yes I know, that is not the point.

Point is you don't know enough to figure out there is likely an SK and dodge my question completely. But when asked who we should lynch you name 3 people who are mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 11:46 GMT
#5025
Well... We will see what night brings. Bill Murray please protect me. or WoS if you really don't want to.
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 11:47 GMT
#5026
On October 31 2016 20:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 20:43 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2016 20:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 31 2016 20:38 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2016 18:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 31 2016 18:33 Koshi wrote:
Can you pinkie promise you are not SK?
+
Do you thnk there is an SK in the game?

If so. Who?

I am not an SK.
I have no idea. I have barely paid attention to the game ever since figuring my chances of winning are .1%, which happened like 4 days ago or something


On October 31 2016 19:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 31 2016 19:42 Koshi wrote:
Well. I think the chance on an SK are high and we need to get rid of him. Maybe DI is SK?

I dunno, DI hasn't really felt scummy to me. He hates playing as mafia and with the team we know so far that seems unlikely. Most likely the last people that need offing are in kurumi/tube.


This feels like you are pushing an agenda btw.

Except the post afterwards I already rescind and note how DI would make sense as mafia?

Yes I know, that is not the point.

Point is you don't know enough to figure out there is likely an SK and dodge my question completely. But when asked who we should lynch you name 3 people who are mafia.

Can you rephrase?

I find it suspicious you dodge my question about the SK (pretending there is none and we shouldn't worry about it, using not paying attention as an excuse) but when asked about who we should lynch, you name 3 people.

I feel there is a disconnect.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 11:53 GMT
#5028
Well I give it an 85% chance and my feelings say 100%
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October 31 2016 21:47 GMT
#5058
On November 01 2016 06:36 ritoky wrote:
i took no damage, and i attacked dandel and killed him :D

Did you do the full damage?
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:21 GMT
#5060
Return is impossible.
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:22 GMT
#5061
Ok. Let's claim damage on Dandel please. If you ever did damage on Dandel you get free towncred.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:24 GMT
#5062
For me mafia is Tubesock ---> Kurumi ------> BM
SK is Ritoky ---> Artanis ---> BM
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:29 GMT
#5063
No.

For me mafia is Tubesock ---> Kurumi ------> BM
SK is Ritoky ---> BM ---> Artanis


For some reason I believe Artanis his shitty role. On the other hand, he is so specific, I don't understand how he is not modkilled yet. But w.e. Maybe it is because he has such a shitty role.

BM is somewhat weird. He is townread by everybody and kept up the same play the entire game. That is smart if you are mafia or SK. Just keep doing what you are doing and don't stir in any many pots. As town I would think he somehow would once break his cycle of afk -->spam post --->afk

Tubesock I have no words for. Fuck him. I can lynch him with all the spite in the world. The End. Either he is town and can rot in hell, or he is mafia and I am awesome.

Ritoky just lied about his role. I know he said he could instakill people. And now suddenly he can only do 30 damage which is 10 damage each clone??? BULLSHIT. Reasoning? He wants to frame somebody else as the one being SK.

Kurumi --> meh. I just sheep others tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:33 GMT
#5065
Well I realize that is everybody except WoS. So if he isn't town I am going to be sad endgame.

##vote ritoky

atm I am lynching liars.
I know I said I would lynch mafia though. meh.

But I have really 0 good reasons to suspect BM of anything...... But guess what. That is how I won 3 mafia games already. Well let's say 2.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:35 GMT
#5067
On November 01 2016 07:34 ritoky wrote:
i said i could probably 1shot most players left per cycle.

i do 15 every day phase, feel free to ask kurumi for confirmation. then i do 30 at night. 45 per cycle 1 shots most people at this point i assume.

plus i am pretty much confirmed town at this point. i can't be sk because i made clones at night 2 nights in which the "sk" killed people. i have mod confirmed actions that preclude me from being sk. plus all of my actions have been stated in the thread and are traceable via movement (which you have done and checked out koshi). plus i just killed mafia.

feelsgoodman.

ahhhhh it is true. But my feelings point toward you.

##unvote

ok. I will not vote yet. I am torn anyway.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:35 GMT
#5068
But come on. There is no way both Exo and Dandel were low hp right? How?
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:36 GMT
#5069
If you are town and you do a shitton of damage claim now pls. So we can focus solely on lynching mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:36 GMT
#5071
Talk to me ritoky. Who is mafia? Who is 3p etc?

solve the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:37 GMT
#5072
On November 01 2016 07:36 ritoky wrote:
idk i didn't damage exo, i attacked kurumi. but like 4 people or so claimed to hit exo. 1 of them was artanis who i assume does a lot of damage?

Yes but he had 80 hp and regained life. At least somebody hit him for 50.
Just like tonight somebody hit Dandel for 50. And then you 30. That is possible.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:38 GMT
#5073
Nha Artanis needs to die.
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:38 GMT
#5074
##unvote
##vote Artanis
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:39 GMT
#5076
Can you meta BM?
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:39 GMT
#5077
I feel like he is a player who is obnoxious and present in the thread.
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:40 GMT
#5078
I could be very wrong.
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October 31 2016 22:45 GMT
#5080
On November 01 2016 07:43 Tubesock wrote:
Koshi. You should lynch me over Ritoky. He's actually confirmed town.

He is confirmed not mafia.
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:48 GMT
#5083
I am leaning towards BM but it is an irrational fear of my own scumgame. It's pretty funny to me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:50 GMT
#5085
BM claimed Abaddon. I think. So it even fits SK extra life thingie.

Which is funny because TS claimed to be SK. But that would be too much balls from the hosts. Make the SK SK.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:50 GMT
#5087
On November 01 2016 07:49 ritoky wrote:
my hesitation about kurumi is that he claimed he could do 30 damage to me last night and then didn't....which maybe mafia thought they could spin me as a lynch target so he did other things, but when i am claiming to do a lot of damage per cycle, i feel like as mafia he takes that opportunity?

But being able to do damage to "claimed 3p" seems so fucking weird though. It counters Mirana leap if it can be done instantly, but I found it a weird claim.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:52 GMT
#5088
I feel we need to kill BM. But if he flips town I can't be surprised at all.

The "right" lynch is Kurumi.



And then there is Artanis.
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:55 GMT
#5090
On November 01 2016 07:52 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2016 07:50 Koshi wrote:
On November 01 2016 07:49 ritoky wrote:
my hesitation about kurumi is that he claimed he could do 30 damage to me last night and then didn't....which maybe mafia thought they could spin me as a lynch target so he did other things, but when i am claiming to do a lot of damage per cycle, i feel like as mafia he takes that opportunity?

But being able to do damage to "claimed 3p" seems so fucking weird though. It counters Mirana leap if it can be done instantly, but I found it a weird claim.


i don't know too much specifics about doto, but i know generally what bristleback does and i assumed it was like if x hits me, i can do a fuck ton of damage back to that person.

1) quill spray does damage around him and stacks. So first time you do it does 5 dmage, second time 10; third time 15 etc.
2) goo slows movement speed and attack speed from an enemy
3) some passive that if you attack BB from the back or the rear he will get reduced damage and each 150 damage he does a quil spray.
4 ulti) each time BB uses quil spray or goo he gains movement speed and attack speed.


Not sure if it is all correct but that is bb
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:56 GMT
#5092
Maybe WoS has a check though. Kinda weird he didn't die. But ok. Still confirmed town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:56 GMT
#5093
On November 01 2016 07:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can play in a bit.
I did a thing to Dandel. I don't know how much damage I did.

Can you figure it out? Is it 50?
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Koshi
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October 31 2016 22:58 GMT
#5095
On November 01 2016 07:57 Tubesock wrote:
I never claimed SK. Where did you get that?

I am ignoring you. Don't ask me questions. I also googled your claim.
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November 01 2016 12:51 GMT
#5126
On November 01 2016 16:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
So it's just tubesock and/or Kurumi and we win I guess?

Tubesock what did you do last night
Koshi you too I guess

On October 31 2016 09:35 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 09:09 Koshi wrote:
1 more thing. If you can still heal or protect. Consider protecting me. Or WoS.


I could use a heal

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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November 01 2016 12:54 GMT
#5127
On November 01 2016 15:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I killed sicklucker with my ability btw. Unfortunately my other wincon that I needed with it got voided when iamp died without me dealing any damage to him.

You can lynch me but I only have 30hp left. Seems silly to me.

Ok so this guys needs to go.

Can we kill him EoD with basic attacks?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 01 2016 12:59 GMT
#5128
On November 01 2016 16:45 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2016 16:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Tubesock was super martyring today already.
I'm not sure what the game plan there is especially if he's final scum but I guess that's wifom

I think I'd still hit Kurumi before him?

I want koshi and Tubesock to talk about Tubesock visit first

He hit me with one of his spells. Second time now. Or third... It's ridiculous.
But I outhealed his damage.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 01 2016 13:02 GMT
#5129
On November 01 2016 16:41 Bill Murray wrote:
I'll heal you koshi

I can heal myself again today. If you can do damage go Artanis, or otherwise heal yourself.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 01 2016 13:04 GMT
#5130
nvm I can't EoD.
I should survive most attacks except when sk or mafia go ham on me. Still +50
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 01 2016 13:09 GMT
#5131
So
mafia killed iamp
3p killed dandel
Artanis killed sicklucker


Artanis needs to die with basic damage.
And we need to lynch mafia / 3p to make a chance Last day. It will vs 3 vs 1 or 2 vs 1 vs 1 in which town loses always. Kingmaker situation.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 01 2016 13:11 GMT
#5132
Hmm not true. Last day could be anything. Depends what happens in night. If we lynch town now mafia and 3p kinda need to shoot each other or town can decide who wins. If they hit and other one misses they go 2 vs 1 last day.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 01 2016 13:11 GMT
#5133
Anyway. Lets just lynch mafia lol.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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Belgium38797 Posts
November 01 2016 13:13 GMT
#5134
##unvote
##vote Tubesock
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 01 2016 13:15 GMT
#5135
I like Tubesock as mafia over Kurumi.
BM did well under my pressure. Kinda tried to buddy me now I think of it... lol. Hmmm
Kurumi just feels like the misslynch everybody is waiting for. Pushed entire game, shitlists, bad play... He was way better when he was mafia with me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 01 2016 13:17 GMT
#5137
Head says Tubesock
Gut says BM
Spite says Kurumi
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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November 01 2016 13:17 GMT
#5138
I can't pick within these 3.
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Koshi
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November 01 2016 13:17 GMT
#5139
33% each for me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 01 2016 13:24 GMT
#5141
On November 01 2016 22:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2016 22:15 Koshi wrote:
I like Tubesock as mafia over Kurumi.
BM did well under my pressure. Kinda tried to buddy me now I think of it... lol. Hmmm
Kurumi just feels like the misslynch everybody is waiting for. Pushed entire game, shitlists, bad play... He was way better when he was mafia with me.

This is good insight. At some point when I feel less lazy I'll try to read the two of them to pick out who it is.

If it's Kurumi he was having a bad game/getting carried by those trying on his team (which I feel kinda fits though) if it's tubesock he's one of the tryhards but he's looked halfwaybdecent all game.

Do you feel BM tried to buddy me? I don't think he ever called me town this game, and in his last bunch of posts he wanted to heal me + agreed with me somewhere.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 01 2016 13:25 GMT
#5142
Oh, + he wants to kill Tubesock for attacking me.

That means he 100% townreds me right?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 01 2016 22:56 GMT
#5156
Who do you think is mafia?
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Koshi
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November 01 2016 23:01 GMT
#5158
On November 02 2016 07:58 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2016 07:56 Koshi wrote:
Who do you think is mafia?


How much time do you think I've devoted to this game? I am not sure. If I were to lynch people I'd go Artanis -> Tube.

Why Artanis over tube? You are more sure he is SK over tube mafia? Or do you think Artanis is mafia?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 01 2016 23:03 GMT
#5160
Do we have reasons to believe Artanis his HP is really only 30?

Can ritoky kill Artanis EoD?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 01 2016 23:25 GMT
#5162
We need to try to do at least 50 to Artanis EoD.

@Bill Murray
Do you have any damage spell or only heal + shield?

@Ritoky
You already said it once but how much damage can you do EoD?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 01 2016 23:33 GMT
#5164
Lynch Tubesock.
Damage to Artanis.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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November 02 2016 11:40 GMT
#5175
##unvote
##vote Kurumi


I like the big effort. I have some problems with your analysis but the main thing is that in your scumreads there is no room for an SK. If Kurumi is mafia, we have to look for an SK and not another mafia. Only when Kurumi flips SK, we should look for a mafia.

We are missing the damage on Exo en Dandel. So unless they took huge damage early on and Vivax didn't send in heals, I don't see how they died.


On November 02 2016 07:37 Kurumi wrote:
And I'm going to vote Artanis for obvious reasons. 1) He's claimed 3p 2) that puts me on the top of the list, so I can shield damage from everyone by being on top

Reason 2 is antitown thinking. Why would mafia/3p use kp on town!Kurumi? Only when Kurumi is one of the 2, then there is a good chance he will get targeted by KP by the other anti town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 02 2016 13:11 GMT
#5179
On November 02 2016 21:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Who are we punching today?
Artanis?

Yes
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 02 2016 14:32 GMT
#5182
Just hit him or goo him pls. I don't want to die to ritoky.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 02 2016 14:35 GMT
#5183
On November 02 2016 22:37 Kurumi wrote:
I did goo Artanis once, that was Day 3 and noone besides Vivax and Lunatic (also hama modkill) has died

did that stop his KP or?


↑This is pure speculation.↓

I have 2 theories around SK.

1) SK is Artanis (/maybe BM) and he has a 50 damage shot each phase. Could makes sense each phase.
2) SK is ritoky and only recently his damage spell was high enough to kill people. He does like 25 each meepo. + he has a simple movement hit that he can use supplementing his SK shot. But I don't like the role for SK, because a good SK is forced to shoot each night. While ritoky cloned each night xcept once. So we got to think the meepo clone is a passive then, but then why didn't he clone when he put the ward...


That's why I think Artanis is SK.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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Belgium38797 Posts
November 02 2016 14:37 GMT
#5184
On November 02 2016 23:32 Koshi wrote:
Just hit him or goo him pls. I don't want to die to ritoky.

Always goo him.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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Belgium38797 Posts
November 02 2016 14:39 GMT
#5185
PS: You spending your day on finding the SK means you are claiming scum and are helping town to revenge your buddies?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 02 2016 15:06 GMT
#5188
On November 02 2016 23:50 Kurumi wrote:
Like what I did is in line with my agenda this game: reduce damage flying around
that's why my first four or so actions were goo, then went for a shield, then quilled, then attacked artanis, now gooing artanis again

Well except for WoS I could kill anybody tbh.

I could swap to ritoky. I don't believe he is town tbh.

He started (D1/N1)way too stiff (basically wasn't having fun and wasn't looking for mafia), HF called it out and died.
D2 we were too busy lynching Vivax and Lunatic and he didn't add anything.
D3 he claimed 3p and that made sense with how he played. So we let him be while lynching Vivax and Lunatic.
D4 he claimed he was town after all that could do massive damage and 1 shot people.

That never happened and he then changed his story again and said he could only do 30 damage.
On October 29 2016 13:50 ritoky wrote:
i am just going to come clean now cuz it's gonna be an issue later; and i should probably give you guys the most amount of time to discuss and decide on this...since if wave truly has a red check then you at least have 3+ days to make a call.

i am town. i played incredibly greedy and self-interested this game. so i will at least try to explain why.

very early on i realized i did not have the willpower or the desire to play how i normally play and wanted to default into a sheeping role. as a result of this, many people were scum reading me for not being the me of old, but well....i am not really that dude anymore i guess. it just ain't in me no more. in order to alleviate myself from the possibility of being lynched i fake claimed 3p. however, there's more to the story.

my role has an incredibly high amount of hp (the highest of any flipped champ thus far). but when i make a clone i have send the clone some of my hp in order to make them. the upside is that for every clone i have i do quite a substantial amount of more damage. at 3 clones now i can probably 1shot over half of the remaining players per phase i am alive. i needed to avoid chip/peripheral damage (which i did taking 0 damage all game) in order to develop myself into the late game dps master that i currently am. so 3rd party claiming makes me pretty much never targeted by damaging abilities thus i can pump out more clones and deal more damage.

so i am sorry for being a greedy asshole and claiming 3p as town, i am sorry my play is so shit that you probably can't read me as town and will have a hard time believing me; but at least i no longer have to perpetuate a lie and you can all understand why i did what i did.

On November 02 2016 09:01 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2016 08:25 Koshi wrote:
We need to try to do at least 50 to Artanis EoD.

@Bill Murray
Do you have any damage spell or only heal + shield?

@Ritoky
You already said it once but how much damage can you do EoD?


15 during day, 30 at night with my current amount of clones.

This is not master of DPs at all. Especially because he claimed he had way more hp than all heroes that flipped so far. Which makes me think he has at least 150-200.
So how is 30 dps a master of DPS?



tldr: Ritoky is the person who refused to be open with town, and each time he is, he has lied and changed his story later on to further his own agenda.

We should lynch ritoky and kill Artanis. Without doubt hitting at least the SK and maybe mafia + SK. Which is probably the best kp reduction we can have.


##unvote
##vote ritoky
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 02 2016 15:08 GMT
#5189
Also I have a feeling that since he claimed town (D4?) ritoky never stood up and tried to lead town with his "master of dps" skills.


Pretty sure he killed Dandel Ion on his own. Pretty sure he is SK.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 02 2016 15:09 GMT
#5190
Artanis --> SL
Mafia --->Iamp
SK --> Dandel Ion


That is what I believe.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 02 2016 16:02 GMT
#5192
On November 03 2016 00:09 Kurumi wrote:
Koshi you remember that the "real" ritoky might be hiding under one of his Meepo's and we can actually only lynch an image?

That's what I member

That would be broken as fuck and I don't believe it.

But yeah, that is another thing that isn't consistent with ritoky.

First he says that he has low hp but he has to hide it under the meepos.
Second he says that his main meepo has a shitton of hp but he has to give it to other meepos.
Third he says that we could even kill or lynch a meepo "to buy time" and nothing will happen.


Bullshit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 02 2016 16:41 GMT
#5193
Well. Opinions?

I have soccer 1h before deadline till deadline.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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November 02 2016 17:56 GMT
#5195
On November 03 2016 02:25 Kurumi wrote:
well, ritoky's and artanis' claims can be very well be true to one fine print saying "I want you all dead" and that's what worries me. Still, I really believe we should get rid of confirmed KP than kill me before, but I don't have much to say besides that.

don't hate me after the lynch too much thx

Vote ritoky. Artanis will die to other damage?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 02 2016 22:06 GMT
#5206
Extremely lazy lynch... i think mafia and sk need to shoot each other now. So that's that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2016 23:01 GMT
#5231
Probably jailer due to no more checks from WoS.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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November 03 2016 23:13 GMT
#5232
WoS is confirmed. Or has fake red checked Skynx. Which didn't happen.

BM can be mafia and doing big plays. Jailing WoS preventing checking him. Killing Artanis thinking he was SK.

Tubesock I can lynch today.

ritoky his story is shady as fuck but his movement checks outs. Artanis claimed to have received 25 damage. 10 from me, 15 from ritoky. He probably did kill Artanis tonight because I just healed myself. And he must have killed Dandel unless somebody else can claim that kill.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2016 23:17 GMT
#5233
Meh I can't decide between BM and TS.
My guts tell me BM is mafia.

##vote BM

WoS did you greencheck BM yesterday? Did you hint that?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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November 04 2016 08:49 GMT
#5372
Not sure how I can even be mafia but kuddos for entertaining the idea.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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November 04 2016 08:50 GMT
#5373
On November 04 2016 13:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
So...Koshi's ability is scummy.
Artanis having to survive a 'duel' with him doesn't say much on his own, but everything I said about his ability earlier in the game still rings true.

The fact that he can essentially arbitrarily deal lethal or near-lethal damage to a target people are voting for without them knowing how they died is an amazing scum ability and a mediocre town one.

That's not how it works. I have to duel somebody well before the deadline and both players get notified they entered a duel. Then we both get damage based on how many votes we have on us+ additional damage EoD. (which is not explained to the person getting dueled, just that we are dueling).

It is easily possible both people survive the duel. That's why I asked as many people as possible to vote Lunatic. And it is confirmed by Artanis his role saying "survive the duel".
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 04 2016 08:54 GMT
#5374
List of people who all townread me and end up dieing during night:

beentheredonethat killed night 2 as the Shadow Fiend!
ptmc killed night 3 as the Juggernaut!
Hopeless1der killed night 3 as the Oracle!
iamperfection killed night 4 as the Centaur Warrunner!
sicklucker killed night 4 as the Bloodseeker!



Yet people who scumread me never died.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2016 08:57 GMT
#5375
But it's fine. Glad to be able to play town like this.

My lynch order is BM --> Tubesock.


If you lynch me today you can go for the 50/50 tomorrow.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2016 09:01 GMT
#5376
Pushing mafia agenda:
On October 20 2016 12:46 Bill Murray wrote:
ok i just read through page 18 and here we are with exo outting a character with healing / protection spells

1) this doesnt mean exo is mafia
2) this doesnt mean waveofshadow is town

the way this game works, mafia will definitely have healing/protection abilities on their support
dazzles overpowered ass would fit mafia support perfectly to be honest
##Vote: WaveofShadow


Pushing mafia agenda:
On October 20 2016 14:15 Bill Murray wrote:
im kind of curious about ritoky but that might just be off and i could be wrong. just a gut feeling something is wrong with one or two posts he made. one of him or hopeless will prob be maf - i dont think both are maf given their interactions. even i could be wrong ..i dont think i am

Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 11:07 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:01 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:00 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 10:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2016 10:55 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 10:50 iamperfection wrote:
the fact that you would point it out


Why wouldn't I point it out? I'm sure I'm not the only player here who is familiar with dota, and can realize what he's alluding to. And this early basically coming out and claiming it, is something doctor wouldn't do. Which means in my view he's lying, and I want him to explain it.

crumbing doctor isnt a thing? btw, I'm a doctor. not really, im like a paranoid remorseful nurse.


Crumbing would be like walking into a bar wearing a dark coat and sitting in a shadowy corner, leaving a note on a table. What he's doing is just short of bursting open the doors to the bar, stark naked announcing he has arrived.

It doesn't necessarily mean he's not town, but I do think he is lying. Unless he's just really dumb (in my opinion)

he is a lol player


So a big problem is how familiar he is with dota. I think it would be stupid to claim doctor right away as I said, but assuming he's town why fake claim? He would have to know enough about dota to know wave of shadow is a dazzle spell, and that dazzle also has the shallow grave spell, which would lead someone to draw the conclusion that he is the doctor.

hmmm idk. I do think he's lying, but if he isn't super knowledgeable about dota it would give a little bit of support to the idea that he was telling the truth.

I'm a bit conflicted now. He's either lying or really dumb town. And I think if he's lying he's more likely to be scum lying.

yeah no WoS is probably scum; don't be conflicted
you have a good case because it's exactly what i was thinking i just couldnt put it to words the way you did

Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 11:22 Hopeless1der wrote:
and now hes crumbing spirit breaker.

what, where?!

Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 11:24 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:09 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:08 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:07 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:01 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:00 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 10:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2016 10:55 ExO_ wrote:
[quote]

Why wouldn't I point it out? I'm sure I'm not the only player here who is familiar with dota, and can realize what he's alluding to. And this early basically coming out and claiming it, is something doctor wouldn't do. Which means in my view he's lying, and I want him to explain it.

crumbing doctor isnt a thing? btw, I'm a doctor. not really, im like a paranoid remorseful nurse.


Crumbing would be like walking into a bar wearing a dark coat and sitting in a shadowy corner, leaving a note on a table. What he's doing is just short of bursting open the doors to the bar, stark naked announcing he has arrived.

It doesn't necessarily mean he's not town, but I do think he is lying. Unless he's just really dumb (in my opinion)

he is a lol player


So a big problem is how familiar he is with dota. I think it would be stupid to claim doctor right away as I said, but assuming he's town why fake claim? He would have to know enough about dota to know wave of shadow is a dazzle spell, and that dazzle also has the shallow grave spell, which would lead someone to draw the conclusion that he is the doctor.

hmmm idk. I do think he's lying, but if he isn't super knowledgeable about dota it would give a little bit of support to the idea that he was telling the truth.

I'm a bit conflicted now. He's either lying or really dumb town. And I think if he's lying he's more likely to be scum lying.

no i was just saying he is a lol player so he probably is dumb. i saw an opportunity to make a lol joke and i took it.


Oh. Well what I'm saying still stands.

WaveOfShadow how familiar with dota are you? And why are you lying about implying doc?

I'm liking this line of questioning less and less. There's no proof he "lied", nor is there proof that he claimed dazzle. He could be claiming shadow demon or nevermore, both heroes that could require extended time to ramp up their abilities in a flavor context, thus justifying his request to 'keep me alive'.


I'm asking him directly to explain himself. There is no proof, but it would be very easy for WoS to come in and say "I didn't claim dazzle". It would be very easy. And yet he didn't say that. You're literally making a defense for him, when he won't defend himself.

I don't think asking for a little explanation is too much at all.

i dont think hes defending him so much as hes attacking your credibility
dont sweat it you came to a good conclusion
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 11:27 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:24 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:09 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:08 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:07 ExO_ wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:01 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2016 11:00 ExO_ wrote:
[quote]

Crumbing would be like walking into a bar wearing a dark coat and sitting in a shadowy corner, leaving a note on a table. What he's doing is just short of bursting open the doors to the bar, stark naked announcing he has arrived.

It doesn't necessarily mean he's not town, but I do think he is lying. Unless he's just really dumb (in my opinion)

he is a lol player


So a big problem is how familiar he is with dota. I think it would be stupid to claim doctor right away as I said, but assuming he's town why fake claim? He would have to know enough about dota to know wave of shadow is a dazzle spell, and that dazzle also has the shallow grave spell, which would lead someone to draw the conclusion that he is the doctor.

hmmm idk. I do think he's lying, but if he isn't super knowledgeable about dota it would give a little bit of support to the idea that he was telling the truth.

I'm a bit conflicted now. He's either lying or really dumb town. And I think if he's lying he's more likely to be scum lying.

no i was just saying he is a lol player so he probably is dumb. i saw an opportunity to make a lol joke and i took it.


Oh. Well what I'm saying still stands.

WaveOfShadow how familiar with dota are you? And why are you lying about implying doc?

I'm liking this line of questioning less and less. There's no proof he "lied", nor is there proof that he claimed dazzle. He could be claiming shadow demon or nevermore, both heroes that could require extended time to ramp up their abilities in a flavor context, thus justifying his request to 'keep me alive'.


I'm asking him directly to explain himself. There is no proof, but it would be very easy for WoS to come in and say "I didn't claim dazzle". It would be very easy. And yet he didn't say that. You're literally making a defense for him, when he won't defend himself.

I don't think asking for a little explanation is too much at all.

he basically claimed spirit breaker. Charge of Darkness is very close to Wave of Shadow.


That's a bit of a stretch. Not a connection I think anybody would make, and one you are only making now that he said mooo. Really? Why didn't he just come out and say "I'm not claiming dazzle" right away?

this scramble from hopeless based on that feels like maf have coached WoS to not piss the bed - like he wanted to have soft claimed dazzle to win a healer on healer lynch later on in the game which can secure a win

THIS feels like potential deflecting off of that claim - a WoS lynch will get a ton of information out there ... if he flips red im going to be pushing for hopeless

I also HATE hopeless claim that he just made ... fishier than ritoky x10 so if you held a gun to my head id vote out WoS and hopeless at this point. if im wrong and hopeless is town ritoky is prob maf. you dont have to like me , like how i play, or even like dota (lol) but regardless of how illogical this sounds im right [usually]

Pushing mafia agenda:
On October 20 2016 14:27 Bill Murray wrote:
also dandelion is town


Who thought both Koshi and Lunatic were town? Nobody but this guy:
On October 21 2016 08:20 Bill Murray wrote:
I like lunatic man so far I think he's town... his posts are attacking koshi. I am going to look into him next as well . Phone posting so hard to consolidate sorry if I'm gonna be spamming but I want to contribute

On October 21 2016 08:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Koshi is coming across as genuine to me. I don't think hes mafia . Pretty strong town read on him actually so I think lunatics looking in the wrong direction

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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November 04 2016 09:03 GMT
#5377
Pushing mafia agenda:
On October 21 2016 08:27 Bill Murray wrote:
Rels , and tictock are just avoiding mod kills. Hate hate hate players who play that way d1. Let's scum slip into d2 a la foolishness style mafia play [the diamond league player who helps out in mafia forums here]


Discrediting town:
On October 21 2016 08:31 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 03:06 Holyflare wrote:
On October 20 2016 12:46 Bill Murray wrote:
ok i just read through page 18 and here we are with exo outting a character with healing / protection spells

1) this doesnt mean exo is mafia
2) this doesnt mean waveofshadow is town

the way this game works, mafia will definitely have healing/protection abilities on their support
dazzles overpowered ass would fit mafia support perfectly to be honest
##Vote: WaveofShadow


This looks extremely forced and a terrible post just in general. Bad play all round really.

yeah no. ##vote holyflare your style is off from Your town play . Even if you're town you're going to be disruptive. You're not town tho so toodles


Literally dafuq:
On October 21 2016 08:37 Bill Murray wrote:
Skynx is either town or the mafia calling the shots


Pushing mafia agenda:
On October 21 2016 10:20 Bill Murray wrote:
Tictock maf

On October 21 2016 10:23 Bill Murray wrote:
Tictock doesn't post like this as town


Pushing mafia agenda:
On October 21 2016 10:30 Bill Murray wrote:
Ok wave and exo u all are both town imo what r we gonna go with ? I like ur idea wave on stacking attacks ... I already sent mine in on tictock but I want to change it now


Pushing mafia agenda:
On October 21 2016 14:07 Bill Murray wrote:
Exo and wave are both town so we three should work together by the way . Exo ur right day 1 is tough for town . Wave isn't trying to be an ass hole to you though he's just trying to get you to see the light. It's just a misunderstanding.. he's red haired I mean I guess he's Irish and I'm part Welsh so I know that when we get caught doing something even if we have non scummy intentions we kinda break down and just freeze up ... the dazzle thing idk why he did it but my gut is telling me that concentrating on who is what hero is just going to let scum hide behind game mechanics and engineering which isn't good doe

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2016 09:07 GMT
#5378
Distancing:
On October 24 2016 05:52 Bill Murray wrote:
I don't even know why everyone was voting vivax


How was this legit in his mind?:
On October 25 2016 08:28 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 07:35 Koshi wrote:
Ritoky/Vivax/Sicklucker/Lunatic/skynx

Endgame cred.

Afkers like Humahama/LT can be replaced with 1

Seems legit



Not sure what this is about but did BM ask a heal? Isn't he now claiming he can heal himself during day?
On October 25 2016 08:28 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 08:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Bill no one's going to heal you.

If we're healing anyone, it's ironically going to be koshi.

Whatever


Why isn't he healing here?:
On October 25 2016 08:28 Bill Murray wrote:
Should I attack vivax or sick cause I'm leaning towArds sick


So he can heal/shield and do some sort of check?
On October 25 2016 08:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Koshi hit artanis for 5 dmg


Pushing mafia agenda:
On October 25 2016 08:56 Bill Murray wrote:
So hopeless hasn't moved much. I bet he's casting abilities. Could easily have been the scum who cast the no lynch


Pushing mafia agenda:
On October 25 2016 09:00 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 21:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'm radiant for anyone that cares

Lynch this next

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2016 09:13 GMT
#5379
This doesn't make sense, guilt or something?:
On October 25 2016 09:00 Bill Murray wrote:
Scum slip on that <for anyone that cares> plus I'm dire and I'm town

On October 25 2016 09:01 Bill Murray wrote:
Not that radiant dire matters bUT that's the point his flippant for anyone that cares screams scum to me


Shows he is reading and thinking about what others think, mafia treat:
On October 25 2016 10:21 Bill Murray wrote:
People's reads are all over the place this game


Short end of stick with 3 confirmed abilities?:
On October 25 2016 12:28 Bill Murray wrote:
lets talk about whos scum not whether or not this game is good or not
i personally enjoy games with a lot of abilities but its all good... seems i got the short end of the stick but oh well


Pushing mafia agenda:
On October 26 2016 15:27 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 15:17 sicklucker wrote:
anyone who didnt attack vivax last night is probably not town. I mean bm I hard defended you all game but this is absurd

oh shut up
he was obviously going to be lynched and i dont trust youre not scum with that post restriction ability


The following chain does not make sense, there are only 3 posts between these 2 and 1 was that one↑:
1) he tells sicklucker not to give away somebody his hp (= reads sicklucker town)
2) attacked sicklucker that night
On October 25 2016 10:26 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 10:23 Lord Tolkien wrote:
How much HP does wave have sicklucker, since you said you checked it

DON'T ANSWER THAT.

On October 26 2016 12:45 Bill Murray wrote:
So I attacked sick lucker last night. I meant to switch it and forgot. And no acrofales I don't keep forgetting to send my action in I just do it late like 5:04 a couple times. Even yesterday I meant to switch my action off sicklucker to vivax but where we are lynching him idk idk


Pushing mafia agenda:
On October 26 2016 15:27 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 15:17 sicklucker wrote:
anyone who didnt attack vivax last night is probably not town. I mean bm I hard defended you all game but this is absurd

oh shut up
he was obviously going to be lynched and i dont trust youre not scum with that post restriction ability

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2016 09:24 GMT
#5380
Excuses:
On October 26 2016 15:29 Bill Murray wrote:
i feel like im missing something important in this game


Pushing mafia agenda:
On October 26 2016 17:03 Bill Murray wrote:
i like exo's ts read a lot


4th spell, probably passive on basic attacks?:
On October 29 2016 13:01 Bill Murray wrote:
my attacks make the person i attack do 50% less damage that same phase


Excuses + not true at all from seeing his filter:
On October 29 2016 13:12 Bill Murray wrote:
granted the game is 230 pages long and ive only read like 65 of them (not counting filter diving)


Pushing mafia agenda + doesnt make sense with what he said eariler:
On October 29 2016 13:24 Bill Murray wrote:
i dont trust wave


Pushing mafia agenda:
On October 29 2016 13:48 Bill Murray wrote:
i feel like WoS is doing a fake check to end the game for maf win




The guy has been pushing mafia agenda the entire game unpunished. Does a play with his spells and gets a free townread...

Has anybody actually received heals btw? Because abbaddon can't heal himself, yet BM claims to heal himself during days. Fake claim so he can do damage during EoD?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2016 09:27 GMT
#5381
Has anybody actually received heals btw? Because abbaddon can't heal himself, yet BM claims to heal himself during days. Fake claim so he can do damage during EoD?


This is so good. Abaddon death coil can heal allies and damage enemies while hurting himself, but can never heal himself. Yet he claims he can heal himself. Abaddon + Omni works in that aspect.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2016 09:37 GMT
#5382
There are so many reasons why I can't be mafia this game.

1) Just the atmosphere there was when I was under fire D1, nobody defended me, I was alone, and then even with my double lynch people kept attacking me, some of them mafia, some of them town. That never happens to a townie.

2) People that townread me died, people that did damage to me survived. Best example is btdt and Tubesock. btdt died the second he townread me.

3) Double lynch. + it being revealed in Artanis his role. If it was secret and mafia, it wouldn't just fucking show up in the Viper role PM. But it literally balances the Night stalker ulti. Nothing else in this game does. And I claimed my double lynch from D1/N1.....

4) Activity went up the longer we played. Always other way around when I am mafia.

5) My reads being good but also not that good. I also always had a full view on the game, while as mafia I always just scumread 1-2 people and try to make it as far as I can. Read my previous games.

6) I never bus hard. NEVER, not once in the past 3 times I rolled mafia. How I pushed Vivax, Skynx and Exo. I always try to win with as many mafia left alive. Again, read my previous games. And I also didn't push them to get cred btw, they were in my PoE pool, especially ExO was like on/off and I still said we should kill him. As mafia I always push that idea away with my towncred. That's how I play mafia, I gain towncred and push mafia agenda. I didn't do that here at all.



Like... I am never mafia this game. I looked too mehish the entire game while still solving it pretty well.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2016 09:38 GMT
#5383
ebwop
1) Just the atmosphere there was when I was under fire D1, nobody defended me, I was alone, and then even with my double lynch people kept attacking me, some of them mafia, some of them town. That never happens unless you are a townie.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2016 09:38 GMT
#5384
Wanted to write unless to a townie probably.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2016 09:39 GMT
#5385
I am also sure that the way I claimed my double lynch and used it was 100% pro town and a mafia would never do it like that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2016 09:40 GMT
#5386
As a team it would be used so differently. Oh well.
If you lynch me this is pretty ridiculous.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2016 09:42 GMT
#5387
Never in this game did I do 1 thing that would gain me towncred btw.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2016 09:43 GMT
#5388
Like blatantly give me towncred by doing x.

I never did "x".

While as mafia I do nothing else to try and do x as many times I can.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2016 09:45 GMT
#5389
BM is obvious mafia.

1) Pushed mafia agenda the entire game.
2) Something happened during night that "confirms" him town.
3) Sheeps strong townie onto other townie and tries to bind his fate/allignment to that generally townread townie.


That is how mafia plays.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2016 09:46 GMT
#5390
For me this game is solved and I am going to stop posting now because I have like 20 posts in a row.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2016 13:25 GMT
#5392
Just read the posts I quoted. Those are all from D1-D3 maybe the last are from D4.

BM his posts around Skynx/Exo are typical mafia on mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2016 23:32 GMT
#5393
Good talk boys.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 16:37 GMT
#5407
Well for me it is BM and if you need to see my flip to take me seriously so be it. I am 99% certain.

His posts about ExO and skynx are typical mafia/mafia. Look at my quotes.
He pushed mafia agenda in 30% of his posts. Again look quotes.

Also his recent posts:
On November 05 2016 15:11 Bill Murray wrote:
Tubesock and ritoky just both chilling not talking
Koshi didn't even defend himself when he's about to be lynched and instead pushes me with himself being the only vote on me

I'm actually starting to think we might be wrong about this and I'm so bad at town that means he's probably maf because I would fuck it up

Doesn't make sense at all. How can "we" (= WoS and BM) be wrong about the game and I still be mafia? That's a contradiction but it works for him because he can keep his vote on me.

On November 05 2016 15:16 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2016 07:36 ritoky wrote:
idk i didn't damage exo, i attacked kurumi. but like 4 people or so claimed to hit exo. 1 of them was artanis who i assume does a lot of damage?

I'm thinking koshi killed artanis last night. Looks like he was worried about his damage

Also this is some retarded justification to keep his vote on me. Artanis claimed to have 5 hp left after EoD and ritoky claimed to have hit Artanis for at least 30.

So why did I exactly kill Artanis?

And how does he know his shield didn't work. etc etc.

The guy is just bullshitting.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 16:37 GMT
#5408
On November 04 2016 18:37 Koshi wrote:
There are so many reasons why I can't be mafia this game.

1) Just the atmosphere there was when I was under fire D1, nobody defended me, I was alone, and then even with my double lynch people kept attacking me, some of them mafia, some of them town. That never happens to a townie.

2) People that townread me died, people that did damage to me survived. Best example is btdt and Tubesock. btdt died the second he townread me.

3) Double lynch. + it being revealed in Artanis his role. If it was secret and mafia, it wouldn't just fucking show up in the Viper role PM. But it literally balances the Night stalker ulti. Nothing else in this game does. And I claimed my double lynch from D1/N1.....

4) Activity went up the longer we played. Always other way around when I am mafia.

5) My reads being good but also not that good. I also always had a full view on the game, while as mafia I always just scumread 1-2 people and try to make it as far as I can. Read my previous games.

6) I never bus hard. NEVER, not once in the past 3 times I rolled mafia. How I pushed Vivax, Skynx and Exo. I always try to win with as many mafia left alive. Again, read my previous games. And I also didn't push them to get cred btw, they were in my PoE pool, especially ExO was like on/off and I still said we should kill him. As mafia I always push that idea away with my towncred. That's how I play mafia, I gain towncred and push mafia agenda. I didn't do that here at all.



Like... I am never mafia this game. I looked too mehish the entire game while still solving it pretty well.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 19:30 GMT
#5412
They wont be modkilled. First time offenders.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 19:40 GMT
#5419
##unvote
##vote TS

Fine. Don't think you would be so mad as mafia atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 19:43 GMT
#5422
Currently on phone. Home in 25 and then we can talk.

There are some quotes I think are mafia on mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 19:43 GMT
#5423
On November 06 2016 04:42 Bill Murray wrote:
Koshi you're legion commander right

Yes.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 19:53 GMT
#5424
k I am home.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 20:29 GMT
#5443
Was eating. I go read Dandel his filter.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 20:38 GMT
#5453
Nothing particular interesting in Dandel his filter. He talks a lot with WoS in his last 10 pages. Almost nothing about BM/Tubesock/ritoky.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 20:45 GMT
#5456
ExO had a serious boner for WoS. Started with that dazzle claim and just continued entire game. Nothing else about others.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 20:45 GMT
#5457
On November 06 2016 05:42 ritoky wrote:
koshi, what was your ult?

Duel. I explained it before.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 20:47 GMT
#5461
On November 06 2016 05:29 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 05:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ritoky and tubesock
Why the fuck haven't you voted yet


Still thinking about it. May vote BM. He's the least town I guess. I don't really think Koshi is mafia anymore.


On November 06 2016 05:41 Tubesock wrote:
I'll vote Koshi. yolo.

Ok then. Voting town to save yourself while you scumread BM.
Why?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 20:48 GMT
#5463
On November 06 2016 05:48 ritoky wrote:
i am just trying to figure out what part of legion commander = double lynch. i can understand the self heal, but i don't see anything that would translate to double lynch in my mind.....i see a counter-attack

The duel is announced to the 2 people in the duel. Damage is based on the amount of votes they get.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 20:49 GMT
#5464
counter attack is my passive. The 5 damage I have been talking about.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 20:50 GMT
#5466
Come on. There is no way I can be mafia this game. Read my post.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 20:50 GMT
#5469
On November 06 2016 05:50 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 05:48 Koshi wrote:
On November 06 2016 05:48 ritoky wrote:
i am just trying to figure out what part of legion commander = double lynch. i can understand the self heal, but i don't see anything that would translate to double lynch in my mind.....i see a counter-attack

The duel is announced to the 2 people in the duel. Damage is based on the amount of votes they get.

You still have it right ? Well don't use it on me I'm town man I swear to God

No I used it on Lunatic??? That is why he died.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 20:51 GMT
#5470
Deadline is in 9 minutes and Tube + WoS just disappeared.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 20:52 GMT
#5473
On November 06 2016 05:51 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 05:51 Koshi wrote:
Deadline is in 9 minutes and Tube + WoS just disappeared.

WoS is at work he said

So where is Tube? He just votes a townread 15 minutes before deadline and fucks off?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 20:53 GMT
#5476
On November 06 2016 05:51 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 05:50 Koshi wrote:
Come on. There is no way I can be mafia this game. Read my post.

Yeah I don't think you are ... I keep flip flopping on you but when I read beentheredonethat read on you it convinced me you are town which is why I've been really wanting you to unvote me and you finally did so I'm happy but I'm still worried because 9dfk who mafia is

btdt townread me before he died btw.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 20:53 GMT
#5482
On November 06 2016 05:53 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 05:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 06 2016 05:51 Bill Murray wrote:
On November 06 2016 05:50 Koshi wrote:
Come on. There is no way I can be mafia this game. Read my post.

Yeah I don't think you are ... I keep flip flopping on you but when I read beentheredonethat read on you it convinced me you are town which is why I've been really wanting you to unvote me and you finally did so I'm happy but I'm still worried because 9dfk who mafia is

btdt townread me before he died btw.

That's what I'm saying

ah ok. Thought you were talking about his initial read and that I completely play the opposite last days.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 20:56 GMT
#5486
ritoky you have 5 mins to vote. I am town. I would swear but that is lame.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 20:57 GMT
#5491
On November 06 2016 05:57 ritoky wrote:
i just have a hard time seeing tube as mafia.

How can you see me as mafia?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 20:59 GMT
#5497
On November 06 2016 05:58 ritoky wrote:
cuz omgus, you kept pushing me when i felt it was impossible for me to be anything but town

Hmm I thought there had to be 3p dayvig. Don't think I said you were mafia xcept on Day 3.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 21:00 GMT
#5499
wp bro
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 21:10 GMT
#5514
ggwp bois. damn it looked good for us N3 but it went downhill so ahrd.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 21:11 GMT
#5524
Goddamn it was that close... wp ritoky and TS then.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 21:12 GMT
#5529
On November 06 2016 06:11 Lunaticman wrote:
OMG GG.


KOSHI I KNEW IT YOU BEAUTIFUL BASTAD :D

you were annoying.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 21:13 GMT
#5532
On November 06 2016 06:12 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 06:11 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn it was that close... wp ritoky and TS then.


Man, I am impressed at how you managed to almost pull this one off despite mafia fatigue.

Thx. The mafia fatigue is real though. Last 5 months only mafia. Pff.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 21:26 GMT
#5547
damn that it eventually was so close. hurts
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 21:30 GMT
#5552
On November 06 2016 06:27 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 06:26 Koshi wrote:
damn that it eventually was so close. hurts


Your harcore bussing was pretty cool though.


Well. Exo was left with 5 hp after getting return damage from iamp. He was dead in the water after sicklucker send in his attack so I felt I had to do it.

Didn't bus Skynx or Dandel at all.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-05 21:38:48
November 05 2016 21:38 GMT
#5559
On November 06 2016 06:37 ritoky wrote:
[image loading]

↑+1
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 05 2016 21:50 GMT
#5565
On November 06 2016 06:49 ExO_ wrote:
Going from 80/80 HP to 2/80 in one night really sucked :/

+1. That lost us the advantage and it was completely out of your control
I had a good night of sleep.
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