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On October 20 2016 07:08 Dandel Ion wrote: nobody spamming, ded gaem lol soz afk forgot game started mid or feed | ||
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On October 20 2016 07:11 Skynx wrote: go feed you russian retard we don't need you cyka blyat | ||
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On October 20 2016 07:11 Skynx wrote: go feed you russian retard we don't need you Also why so angry? Must have rolled mafia. ##Vote Skynx | ||
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On October 20 2016 11:29 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm honestly baffled anyone would think I'd come out and fully claim my role what, two hours into a heavily themed game with all sorts of shit flyin' around at any given moment? I'm stunned speechless. Silent, even. Claim dazzle --> You might not be mafia. Even though softclaiming a healer is extremely mafia behavior. Claim anything else --> You are mafia. Atm I am going to think you are dazzle and you made this post to cover up your "stupidity". If I have to explain myself: Town!WoS sees his role have "wa | ||
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Town!WoS sees his role have "wave of shadow" and happy as a child makes a post about it. Gets rekt by Exo and backtracks on his claim because he understands he made a mistake. Town!WoS clearly did not made the claim to bait scum shooting him. So being silly is the only acceptable explanation. | ||
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On October 20 2016 18:22 Acrofales wrote: Getting scum vibes off Koshi. Based on my recall from a 2-y.o. meta, that means he's probably town. Also #dedgaem That doesn't make any sense. | ||
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Yeah, but he is probably just dazzle. | ||
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On October 20 2016 18:26 ptmc wrote: But back-tracking serves nothing here. If he is dazzle and town, we have some very powerful abilities that we can use for the good of town. And even then, if he fails to help town with them (like we say grave a town-read guy with low hp or sth.) we can still lynch him as mafia. Back-tracking just tries to take focus off of him for no reason imo. Somehow he prayed he could talk himself out of getting RB/Killed? | ||
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I do get mafia read a lot when I am town yeah  While I am uncatchable as mafia. (proof: my last 3 mafia wins) Not sure if he means that though. I think we were mafia together a long time ago. | ||
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Pro-tip for mafia: make more than 20 posts and you are safe. | ||
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I have seen crumbs already. There is 0 reason to do it as town. Just shut up. Also, try to crumb better than literally saying what your ulti is. | ||
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On October 20 2016 18:50 ptmc wrote: if you mean me: my in-game hero has an ult, it just got balanced out of this game  Nha I meant iamp. It's so obvious so w.e. Makes me wifom think they are mafia. | ||
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On October 20 2016 18:55 Dandel Ion wrote: town + Show Spoiler + now that i have A READ, i can just skip the next couple pages, kkthx That's not a read. Try again. | ||
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On October 20 2016 19:03 ExO_ wrote: This is the worst part about this game, the people who won't actually make any attempt to play. Like it frustrates me to no end when people just troll and somehow they get passes. Why even play if you're just gonna sit around acting smug and mocking people. At least try to solve the game please idiot. lol chill out bro. Onegu is a nazi mod. Also, I actually enjoy playing with characters like DI. It's funny. | ||
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On October 20 2016 19:07 beentheredonethat wrote: dandelion is pretty much posting jack shit that is totally useless and not even funny ##vote Dandel Ion Do you think he is mafia? | ||
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On October 20 2016 19:11 beentheredonethat wrote: No I'm voting him for the funsies So why do you think he is mafia? | ||
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On October 20 2016 19:17 beentheredonethat wrote: It's in the post you quoted. To elaborate: oneliners, useless posts that do nothing but derail the thread. Which is mafia indicative. I wanted to know if you actually scumread him or if it was a pressure vote. If he is trying to derail the thread he isn't doing a good job. Kinda obvious. | ||
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On October 20 2016 19:26 Dandel Ion wrote: you take that back, i'm very good at it Well. Btdt would be a very bad fish. | ||
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On October 20 2016 19:32 Lunaticman wrote: I just can't handle more of Koshi's platitudes. Obvious scum play as usual. #Vote Koshi Big words, bad vote. | ||
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On October 20 2016 20:18 beentheredonethat wrote: Thing is I highly agree with Lunatic although it's a dumb entry without a followup. Koshi's filter reads like scum!Koshi from the last three games where he was scum. I hosted two of those games. I think Koshi has a high chance of flipping red given his filter. He calls out some stuff, then drops it, changes topic, while all being wishy-washy but seemingly active. He's probably lurking right now. On October 20 2016 20:18 beentheredonethat wrote: Koshi you said you'd lynch a 1-pager, then you'd lynch a bread-crumber - and now you're not lynching anyone. Okay, D1 early, npnp, but who do you want to push and why? I'll do stuff when I do stuff. | ||
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This pressure you put on me is unbearable. Please good sir, remove your vote. | ||
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On October 20 2016 21:17 Lunaticman wrote: In a large game it's better only to speak when you have something to say. Otherwise we will just have a repeat of Palmars game. Some discussion is necessary but what Koshi is doing is exactly what he has been doing in the last couple of mafia games as scum. I won't stand for it. I doubt this is true. Sadly I can't judge how I read myself so I can't be sure. | ||
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On October 20 2016 22:20 Lunaticman wrote: We all know Koshi screwed up and stopped posting because he knows we know he screwed up. Just lynch him and be done with it. lololololol. Being town is way more fun. | ||
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On October 20 2016 22:48 beentheredonethat wrote: Would you please actually play the game? I am playing the game. I am following the thread carefully. | ||
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On October 20 2016 23:05 beentheredonethat wrote: You're following the thread and picking random replies. You're playing absolutely reactive and are not initiating anything although you claimed multiple times to do so. Koshi, you are scum. The things in italic are wrong. | ||
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On October 20 2016 23:25 iamperfection wrote: You have to pick one lurker slash very low poster to kill who is it? I'll let you know later. I know I am deflecting but it is all I am willing to do atm. | ||
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Kurumi ritoky are my best guesses for mafia atm. | ||
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On October 21 2016 04:34 beentheredonethat wrote: Stop playing reactive. Start to read into people. Dive filters. Or, roll over and die. I did. And that is what I got. | ||
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On October 21 2016 05:30 beentheredonethat wrote: The post I quoted originally (the nested one) is literally the only thing in your filter that could be slightly interpreted as not reactive. Given you've been called out to drop reads multiple times I am not accepting the quoted post as participation. Please vote Koshi. Well. Let's make that 1 post the start of something beautiful? | ||
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On October 21 2016 08:25 Bill Murray wrote: Koshi is coming across as genuine to me. I don't think hes mafia . Pretty strong town read on him actually so I think lunatics looking in the wrong direction Goddamn this makes my day a lot happier instantly. | ||
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On October 21 2016 08:58 Hopeless1der wrote: can someone explain scum!koshi meta, or point me to which games I ought to be concerned with? Palmar Themed Game And then the last 2 minis that weren't newbies, both hosted by btdt. Also the last 3 games I played. Also the reason why btdt and Luna got a thing for me now. | ||
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##unvote ##vote Hopeless1der p60 atm | ||
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On October 21 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote: HAHA :D this made me laugh thank you. You don't want to engage me directly but now I won't let you slip between the cracks so you just try to shade me while voting someone else entirely. And you don't even post any reasons. It is intresting people are town reading BT and scum reading me although we both have the exact same read on Koshi. This smells like mafia trying to save mafia. Reasons: You are tunneling town and limiting yourself doing that. While as town you are normally all over the place and actively trying to push the game forward. I think except for HF you haven't made a single other observation in the game. I know I am town. I don't know what you are doing. And the main reason why I voted Hopeless over you is because I liked the case Acrofoles made. If you are town you better take a step back and try to solve the game ignoring Koshi. I don't know what exactly you meant with that last paragraph you wrote but that shit is bad for you. | ||
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On October 21 2016 20:01 beentheredonethat wrote: I skimmed the last 20 pages, and before I go offline again, I wanted to bring up Koshi again. My case still stands and he disappeared. He's playing exactly like he did in the last 3 games where he was scum. This is actually a blatant lie. So annoying. Will lunatic correct this lie? He knows I played super active in the Palmar Themed Game. | ||
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1) Lunatic didn't correct the blatant lie. 2) Yesterday I opened his filter after I saw the HF post and saw that ritoky wasn't looking for mafia at all. So he was a fine target to lynch. Today he started off with a list of townies and then went looking for mafia so I am ok with him atm. | ||
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On October 21 2016 23:42 Lunaticman wrote: You are correct but I interpret it a different way. I think you went lurker because you got called on a meta read and had realized your mistake. A paraphrase of this is your "I think I forgot how to play town" post. You also had to devise a battle plan with your culprits how to refute the day one lynch. Cool story but I didn't do any of that. Btdt told a blatant lie and you didnt correct him while you knew it was a lie. That's pushing scum agenda or being really really bad. | ||
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On October 21 2016 23:48 iamperfection wrote: Who will be here at deadline reply to this post Yes, phoneposting though. | ||
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##unvote ##vote Vivax | ||
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On October 22 2016 02:59 beentheredonethat wrote: My vote is good where it is. I don't feel like deciding between Lunatic/Vivax. Lunatic is a good lynch while Vivax is policy. If it is still on me I disagree. | ||
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On October 22 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote: Can you please post some list or something before i switch to you aswell? Too m7ch work sorry. | ||
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On October 22 2016 03:27 beentheredonethat wrote: really, my vote is good where it is. You're arguing like Trump. "Here's evidence you're bad." - "No I'm not" What if I tell you I play like this because I am a town powerrole? | ||
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On October 22 2016 03:35 beentheredonethat wrote: Then you could easily ignore me and my ongoing inquiries and not soft-claim that powerrole. You're not that bad that close to EoD1 without being in danger to get lynched, you start claiming a power role. Really, you're scum Koshi, and you can easily prove that you're not by starting to actually play the game instead of dodging anything. Currently, you're like Trump. LoL the tunnel is real. It was a joke bro. | ||
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Let me alive 1 night and unless I am killed it will happen. | ||
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On October 22 2016 05:54 iamperfection wrote: The way the hosts make it sound this game I don't see how you can confirm yourself through role Well that is incorrect then. | ||
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Hi NM. I am town this game. | ||
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On October 22 2016 07:33 NocturneMage wrote: you were the counterwagon, the leading counterwagon. we know tictock flipped town. if you are town, tell me who the mafia are, on your wagon and why. I would be surprised there are multiple mafia on me. I look like shit so mafia is happy to leave me alive. | ||
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Dont base all your theories about me being mafia in your grand scheme of things. You are going to be sad and lost. | ||
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On October 22 2016 21:15 Lord Tolkien wrote: Koshi wasnt going to happen because literally no one was online and posting late d1. O rly. | ||
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It is not my fault you scumread me. This isnimportant for everybody to understand. | ||
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On October 22 2016 21:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: However please explain how these two quotes go together. Do you not consider looking like shit (and thus being scumread) to be your own fault? Could I have been a good monkey and spammed reads 24/7 so people can tr me without doubt? Yes. And no. | ||
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On October 23 2016 00:33 Holyflare wrote: Which is why I asked him if he'd done anything last cycle and he agreed he hadn't really. There are most definitely better people to attack if wave is town (me/iamp/dandel) etc. I still don't know about wave for real though so he can just sit at null because that's the summation of what he's done. Shy would mafia attack obvious town with base attacks? Just makes them show face. | ||
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Evertything I said this game is 100% true and genuine. | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:09 iamperfection wrote: or both maybe..... 2 townies did die im sure some townies attacked you i dont know why mafia would waste kp if your town on you Yup. Probably shitty townies. | ||
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##unvote ##vote Lunatic | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:18 sicklucker wrote: hi guys. hi sl | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:22 sicklucker wrote: no but really im bloodseeker I can check your hp Well if no townie attacked me it must have been mafia. | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:23 sicklucker wrote: should I bother reading last night or was it just all garbage? im kind of glad hf now we will be more civilized +1 would have hit him harder if I could | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:24 Hopeless1der wrote: Yeah this. Koshi can you tell us the threshold or do we just try to split votes 50/50 and hope it works? Dnu. Is it needed? It will work if we make 2 wagons. | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:26 iamperfection wrote: no there are going to be 22 votes on vivax he will be voting himself by the end. you hate 2 lynches? | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:27 iamperfection wrote: i see no evidence of 2 lynches It will happen. | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:36 iamperfection wrote: it doesn't feel right like double lynch doesn't really fit any dota hero i can think of. but I don't know why koshi would lie about it though as either alignment unless he is trolling or something It is far fetched but it works. | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:46 Acrofales wrote: Prove it. Also, scum can get abilities like double lynch in heavy themed games. Gonna have to think what game it was, but fairly certain I saw it before. This is a pretty scummy response btw. | ||
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On October 23 2016 12:42 Hopeless1der wrote: If Koshi was able to prove he could double lynch, he would. But he cant, because its either not real or not revealed when activated. Or hes being a dick, which is obviously possible. On October 23 2016 13:26 sicklucker wrote: well if koshi is scum hes doing everything a scum should do at the bottom of the barrel. trying to get votes/kp off him It will happen at the end of the phase. I can't say more. | ||
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On October 23 2016 13:27 sicklucker wrote: also i brought up my ability to detect his hp but when I did that he dropped. also makes no sense for scum to target him so hes scum Why does that make me scum? | ||
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On October 23 2016 13:33 sicklucker wrote: a second lynch barely favors town tho. infact its completely null It is 100% pro town. Double lynch always favors town. | ||
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On October 23 2016 23:04 Skynx wrote: Also @Koshi, You are delusional + scum. I defended you cuz it was early in the game and you could redeem yourself. You gave me a big middle finger and then i voted you cuz i told u to step up. Thats not what we call "defends me then wants to lynch me out of nowhere" Your vote was opportunistic as fuck and didn't compare with how you read me before. I was already surprised when you as one of few correctly gave me benefit of the doubt, but then after I voted Luna you just drop the hammer on me with a bullshit case. | ||
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No I am not backtracking. But stop asking dumb shit and just make a second BIG wagon. | ||
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On October 24 2016 00:09 WaveofShadow wrote: I mean, the thing is it doesn't make him scum. I had him on town for a fair amount of this game, but I will say if this actually turns out to be secret double lynch I will tie the noose myself. Are you all stupid or something? Why is a secret double lynch mechanic anti town? Holy fuck. This should confirm me 100% town. 100000000% | ||
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On October 24 2016 00:10 Acrofales wrote: Ezmode. Vote for koshi: ensure there is 1 vote on him, just in case he has some shitty scum ability he can use if nobody is voting for him. Then we form 2 wagons: 1. Vivax with a large majority of votes 2. Someone else. I'm still deciding who, but one of (Skynx, Artanis, Lunatic, Taco Bell, Lord Tolkien) seems like a pretty good starting point. Now. If the double lynch happens as planned, yay! We revisit koshi tomorrow. If the double lynch doesn't happen, koshi confirmed as scum. He'll claim roleblocked, but nobody gonna believe that shit, and we 100% lynch him tomorrow. Worst case scenario: town wins. Pretty sure I wont claim rb"ed. | ||
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On October 24 2016 00:11 WaveofShadow wrote: Koshi it's pretty simple. When you can make another person die during the day by towns own hand without any town knowledge of it happening, that's a rather large benefit for scum. Ok. So it is standard that mafia has a secret way to kill somebody during the day? It is always town that has the most kp during the day. | ||
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On October 24 2016 00:12 WaveofShadow wrote: Although I will admit a secret double lynch to begin with is a super bullshit power if you're telling the truth and I'll be even more unhappy if you're actually town and we lynch you for it. Maybe you shouldn't see it as a fucking double lynch. Holy fuck you people. I am out before I tell everything. Justbullshit. Vivax/Skynx/Lunatic ez mafia. | ||
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On October 24 2016 00:14 Skynx wrote: Meta makes him scum, as btdt suggested earlier on. Koshi is not a passive player. He especially doesn't vote for shitty reasonings like that. Town Koshi posts long lists, pushes everyone with massive cases and town follows him to victory. This game Koshi is like our PM who just chillz and blames other people from his chair while doing nothing of worth. I was actually before people told me to be their monkey and I just fucked off. I don't have to have 1 meta as town. + I HAVE THE MOST PRO TOWN ABILITY OF ALL. I AM FUCKING CONF SETUP TOWN. | ||
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On October 24 2016 00:16 WaveofShadow wrote: Yes, except for the fact that this is using a collective town KP---'lynch', to kill someone theoretically without their own knowledge. An announced double lynch is completely different. I don't know what you are saying but I say double lynch because it is tied to the lynch. | ||
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On October 24 2016 00:26 WaveofShadow wrote: So then what you're saying is it's not double lynch then, it's something else. Is this an open question so I tell you people even more details? | ||
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On October 24 2016 00:45 iamperfection wrote: someone discuss my point on skynx that i cant wrap my head around it. Why would he claim his attack on me? I haven't followed that discussion. | ||
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On October 24 2016 00:48 iamperfection wrote: he said he attacked me. i didn't comment at all on taking damage yet he claims an attack why would he do that as scum? Well the damage claim doesn't matter. As scum he might just do yolo damage? Was this during the night? | ||
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ahh. Then it is maybe redirected? | ||
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On October 24 2016 06:13 beentheredonethat wrote: This is bullshit. The clone guy fully explained his mechanic without any mod consequences and you flail. You understand that if I tell exactly what I do there is a chance mafia will counter it right? Look at how many people are asking what I exactly do. It's hilarious. I claim double lynch: People come out of the woodwork claiming double lynch is not pro town (wtf???) People want to know exactly what I do, how I do it, etc etc. FOR WHAT? So mafia can block it and you can keep calling "Koshi is mafia" like the little fuckers you are???? MAYBE JUST FUCKING LET ME DO IT AND THEN JUDGE IF IT WAS WORTH IT OR PRO TOWN OR W.E. | ||
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Well he is rolefishing as well but at least not my role. | ||
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I am not considering a lot of people for mafia btw. Like ritoky, he had to win a lot with HF dieing. Not sure if HF read him as mafia EoN but I know he was suspicious. And then a bunch of lurkers | ||
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Others: double lynch is not nec pro town. Others: Tell us exactly how mafia can stop the double lynch or you are mafia yourself. Others: Koshi is mafia when the double lynch doesn't happen. *Koshi looks at vote count* Vivax (10) Skynx (2) Koshi (1) *Koshi shrugs and walks away* | ||
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Do I need to copy paste my role PM for you people to grasp how it works or? | ||
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I hope Vivax isn't mafia. Then I can decide to join the mafia team and just hit baddies till we lose. Like HF. Pretty sure that isn't more against my wincon than what at least a big portion other townies are doing atm. | ||
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On October 24 2016 20:32 beentheredonethat wrote: I am not available on deadline. I will not risk that Vivax does not get lynched in case you lied. You claim a thing and are mad at town? Really? You didnt do jack shit D1/N1. Even if you are indeed town, you screwed up way too bad to not get killed at this point. Screwed up doing what exactly? I sat on Lunatic/Vivax till a shitton people decided I should be lynched or TT. I was voting mafia. You were too busy tunneling me "for not doing enough". Which is not even a reason to scumread somebody btw, it's just creating a shitty townmeta for me in which I need to be hyperactive in each game or I am mafia. Which also fucks my enjoyment when I roll mafia. So fuck off. | ||
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a) Who voted mafia the entire game. b) Who pushed/voted town the entire game. Group a are decent players that might become really good players if they can herd the idiots. Group b are default baddies that might become not total shitters if they can proof themselves to be town while being shit. I am probably group a. You are group b. The rest of the game it is just a question where you will end in group b. Top of bottom. | ||
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On October 24 2016 20:55 Vivax wrote: Yo, I was at a glacier this weekend and my care level for this game is really low. I'll just play now and you lynch me anyway. That's fine, I'd do the same in your stead. The good news is we can actually lynch somebody besides you!! The bad news is nobody gives a fuck and prefers to just auto lynch me tomorrow. | ||
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You could have presented the joke better. | ||
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On October 24 2016 21:10 ExO_ wrote: Koshi I'll give you one chance. Explain as much as you can how your ability works. On October 24 2016 20:17 Koshi wrote: Koshi: "Hey guys let's double lynch, I just need 2 long wagons" Others: double lynch is not nec pro town. Others: Tell us exactly how mafia can stop the double lynch or you are mafia yourself. Others: Koshi is mafia when the double lynch doesn't happen. *Koshi looks at vote count* Vivax (10) Skynx (2) Koshi (1) *Koshi shrugs and walks away* | ||
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On October 24 2016 21:08 Acrofales wrote: I'm not really around. Just some quick phone posts while I have a coffee. I'll be out again in a sec. Just one more thing I was saying before I had to leave earlier: A 3p that has multiple votes doesn't exist, so if Koroko's vote counts, we need to kill that asap. If he is in the Not voting list, he needs to vote, so his vote counts. I read 1 post from him explaining how his role worked and now that I think of it it doesn't make sense. His main hp shifts between meepos but what about the smaller meepos then? They are unkillable? Probably best to use some supression fire on the meepos indeed. It is never town btw, if it can vote. Can't balance that shit unless mafia has a hard counter. | ||
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On October 24 2016 21:16 ExO_ wrote: You don't really care about how he claims his ability works? That's a pretty damn important thing to not care about. If you don't question him about how his ability works, how can we ever figure out if he's lying? 2 people die = I am not lieing. | ||
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On October 24 2016 21:19 ExO_ wrote: But under what specific conditions can you kill 2 people? TRY TO READ THE THREAD BRO. I HAVE ONLY FUCKING EXPLAINED IT 54625754 TIMES. FUCK MY LIFE. | ||
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Koshi is mafia because he only talks about his double lynch. | ||
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On October 24 2016 21:22 ExO_ wrote: Quote your filter where you explain it, because I'm not seeing it Pile votes on 2 wagons. Really. tyvm. | ||
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On October 24 2016 21:30 ExO_ wrote: Yeah so you're trying to tell me that you have an ability that lets you lynch another player if 2 wagons have a lot of votes? Or what exactly? Do you have to send the action in just before the timer, or at night or what? On October 24 2016 20:30 Koshi wrote: Do I need to copy paste my role PM for you people to grasp how it works or? | ||
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On October 24 2016 21:33 beentheredonethat wrote: Could that ability be a mafia ability, too? Everything can be mafia, my hero is pretty mafia aka evil, but it is 100% FUCKING PRO TOWN 100% CONFIRMED HOLY SHIT. | ||
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One can not be this fucking dense. ##unvote ##Vote ExO_ | ||
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On October 24 2016 21:40 beentheredonethat wrote: Koshi, its madness to do the same thing over and over again but expect a different result. If youre town, leave the thread for some hours. Calm down. We all got your claim and no, as of now, we are not following you. But you are not todays lynch. So please go ahead and read people. Drop thoughts. Bring up your findings. All you do is claiming and raging, and people follow you in derailing the thread. Really, Koshi. Stop raging, stop claiming, all is said and done. Calm down, then start to work. Read people outside of Vivax. Make suggestions for your second wagon. Or, keep raging and yeah, nothing will change. I cannot proof I am town unless you make 2 wagons? How hard is this too graps? Hey Koshi we will lynch you when you don't kill the guy with a shitton of votes. But spoiler, we won't give a second guy a shitton of votes. | ||
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Well. From this point onwards I am going to say literally nothing anymore about my role. | ||
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On October 24 2016 21:49 beentheredonethat wrote: Hey Koshi no second wagon is forming and if you want one,then fucking make a solid case. Scumfuck,you make me pissed by now. Back to ignore. My advicse still stands. Exo is mafia for not making any cases and pretending to be as dense as a rock. Lunatic is mafia for not making any cases and just voting me since the first 5 minutes of the game. Vivax is mafia for not making any cases and claiming to have visited baby seals. Skynx is mafia for making 1 opportunistic as fuck case on me and doing nothing else entirely. 4 brilliant cases. You are pushing me with the same reasoning this entire game now so I must just became solid town to you. | ||
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On October 24 2016 22:03 ptmc wrote: Do you have thoughts on BG and LT, Koshi? They can go die in a fire? | ||
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Well ,at least 1 townie is paying attention this game. I change my opinion to mafia is scared as fuck about me and want to bury me. But yeah, there is probably mafia in the whole LT/GB/Hamamura guy/Ritoky | ||
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On October 24 2016 22:17 ptmc wrote: I agree. I don't feel strongly for a Skynx-Lynch (only read his filter, did I miss a case?) Lunatic however is still only a weird tunneling lurker, which would be a fine second lynch. ## vote lunaticman I agree Lunatic is the worst of the bunch. And this also beyond doubt proofs I am 100% confirmed town. ##unvote ## vote lunaticman | ||
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On October 24 2016 22:40 Koshi wrote: Luna as town is not this either http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/mafia/511784-who-needs-72-hours-anyway?user=Lunaticman 24 pages tons of scumhunting. | ||
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On October 24 2016 22:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Bleh Acro's filter has a shitton of original thought so prob not. Maybe Wave? Hmm. I think Acro/iamp/DI/WoS are fine atm. ritoky/sicklucker are more likely active mafia. | ||
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On October 24 2016 22:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I remember Wave got attacked by some ppl. Does anyone remember who did that? Probably but no me. | ||
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On October 24 2016 22:55 iamperfection wrote: Does anyone remember someone saying the Holyflare kill wasn't surprising. I know someone said it but I can't remember who On October 23 2016 08:26 sicklucker wrote: nks are meh. Expected. Probably shoulda nked me but then again im trolling the thread . hf was obv town. noct was some sort of newbie game fear lynch but I can respect it | ||
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On October 24 2016 23:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Could be that my ritoky townread is off-point. He's a sly bugger but I think it's still likely accurate. SL I mostly townread for having similar thoughts but that's pretty meh. Wish Rso was in the game so I could tell if he's scum or not from whether he reads her posts. Problem is neither of those fit the feeling I'm getting. I guess it could be something like SL/Tubesock and other mid-range posters creating that feeling? Still going through Wave's filter but not really noticing anything that makes me scream scum. He comes off as very nonchalant but it doesn't come off scripted. Blehhhhhhh WoS probably town for how happy and how much he was posting early game/mid D1. Also one of the few that is still trying to pressure different targets then herpderp lynch Koshi. | ||
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On October 24 2016 23:03 ptmc wrote: Why is receiving damage in the night weird? Why do you think BM is town? Other than those two posts and him being sceptical of Koshi i think his filter is fine. It's fine but I expect town!sl to come up with a bunch of tinfoil original ideas or just good believable theories. Also read how he defends me during D1, but then as soon as I announce my double lynch he switches and says how my play makes sense as a mafia trying to survive 1 more day. While I was going to survive this day almost always. | ||
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On October 24 2016 23:36 WaveofShadow wrote: IF people make sure the wagons aren't too close together I am OK with this If we want to be sure, let's put 7 votes on Lunatic. | ||
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On October 24 2016 23:36 WaveofShadow wrote: IF people make sure the wagons aren't too close together I am OK with this Also, no mafia is going to show face for Lunatic. | ||
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On October 24 2016 23:40 ptmc wrote: What do you scum lean ritoky for? He feels a bit limp, but has some thoughts that he sticks to. It's multiple little things that stick out to me. Like this: On October 24 2016 14:05 ritoky wrote: also something i remembered was that i liked LT and exo less cuz they suggested letting the mod deal with vivax....don't rely on the mod. you get shit like i have pulled before and which vivax has repeatedly told me "never again" for. he knows better than to try to eod snipe. On October 24 2016 14:19 ritoky wrote: i refuse to rely on the mod for modkills. ESPECIALLY cuz it is vivax. for history lessons, in a game about 2 yrs ago? i was mafia in a position where it was literally stone impossible for me to escape lynch so i did not post the entire phase. the town (vivax included) decided i would be modkilled and to lynch someone else. i voted with 7 seconds left in the day as my only required post. they lynched town and lost a phase that probably could have won them the game. since then vivax has said "never again" repeatedly when people try to plan around modkills instead of lynches. i refuse to play around modkills. especially with him. it will bite you eventually. A really scummy way to throw extra shade on Exo and LT. Also when Exo calls him out he tells a story how town once tried to get him modkilled as mafia but they failed. I don't see how that story initially made Exo and LT mafia. If anything, it would make them more town. | ||
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On October 24 2016 23:47 WaveofShadow wrote: Fair, but stupider things have happened. Koshi you know you could have made this way less complicated somehow. I won't know how that was until I see what your role is, but srsly. Well I didn't think I would have to claim everything so you guys would go along. I said the necessary with my first post. Now I would be actually surprised if it goes through. But we will see. | ||
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On October 25 2016 00:43 iamperfection wrote: it's not the person who is the second wagon so we can't shenanigan? Why do you always have to ask extra questions when it is quite fucking obvious what I am writing. Try to think for yourself and read between lines. When I write we should do "a" it actually means let's do "a". | ||
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On October 25 2016 00:51 iamperfection wrote: Who will be here at deadline raise hands Try to read what I wrote again. | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:20 WaveofShadow wrote: WOW AND SCUM FUCKING HIT ME WITH A POST MODIFIER, IF I POST 7 MORE TIMES I TAKE 5 DAMAGE PER POST. That sounds like bloodseeker to me. Fucking kill sicklucker and all the rest of these scummers if you actually care about this fucking game. I'm being forced out of it by fucking retarded OP powers. Gg scum Maybe you can convince yourselves you earned it This night or forever? | ||
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Kinda bullshit I get this ulti and then there is a mafia spell that sucks up all votes. That is bullshit; | ||
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Which is ofcourse never going to happen. | ||
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At best my ulti hits for 80% hp or something on D3. Depends on how many die. That's not cool. | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:24 sicklucker wrote: huh ya I tottaly gave you a post modifier you and gb. Its not single target I had to use it on both of you. im a little disapionted mods tell you not to post tho. nothing about that in my role description Grtz on claiming mafia. | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:31 sicklucker wrote: hell ya ? waves always been my target I even attacked him last night. and everyone wants gb dead You are mafia. I knew it. Ritoky/Vivax/Sicklucker/Lunatic/skynx I said it from the fucking start. | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:32 sicklucker wrote: I am not mafia... why am I claiming mafia? is wave confirmed or some shit? Because im pretty far behind HOW IS PREVENTING SOMEBODY TO POST PRO TOWN EVER? | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:33 beentheredonethat wrote: Okay. Town has to group up and we need to direct night action at people. I suggest we all attack Vivax. SAYS THE GUY WHO PROBABLY KILLED ME FOR 30 HP ALREADY | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:34 beentheredonethat wrote: tbh I lied about attacking you so I don't get roleblocked, yeah. I LOST OVER 65 HP ALREADY | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:37 sicklucker wrote: I mean I predicted this shit btw. Hate to say I told you so... Even if hes town he claimed it like a derp so of course mafias gonna stop it. If he was really town he should have kept him mouth shut unless he was the garanteed second lynch. but he claimed it for no reason How can I know there is a role that removes all votes in the game? Like... Dafuq. | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:41 beentheredonethat wrote: More important, how can you exactly know that this role removes all votes and doesn't just say "votes don't count, nolynch it is"? ..................................... It was a wild guess. I don't know why the fuck. But I know night came early and there were no votes. That I know. | ||
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On October 25 2016 08:49 Bill Murray wrote: So koshi why did you hit artanis]rels slot? I didn't. But I assume he attacked me. | ||
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On October 25 2016 16:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Koshi, I did not attack you. Also, if no one claims their AA on me I'll have to presume it came from scum. Well. I did not do 5 damage to you. My basic damage is 7 btw, which I claimed before, of course this could be fake but come on... Does anybody has an attack that is 5? Or lower? So I got so much damage and nobody from town claims it. I have a feeling I got the ulti from Wynter Wyvern on me and Artanis and iamp attacked me or something. How much damage did you 2 do last night? Could it be over 35 together? | ||
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On October 25 2016 17:49 Koshi wrote: Well. I did not do 5 damage to you. My basic damage is 7 btw, which I claimed before, of course this could be fake but come on... Does anybody has an attack that is 5? Or lower? So I got so much damage and nobody from town claims it. I have a feeling I got the ulti from Wynter Wyvern on me and Artanis and iamp attacked me or something. How much damage did you 2 do last night? Could it be over 35 together? If I had wyverns ulti on me, would I be stunned? Maybe I would be. Artanis can you answer? Did you do massive damage? | ||
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I would ask sicklucker to check my hp but he is mafia. Pretty good spell for mafia btw. My 5 names still stand. People like hamamura, GB and TL could be mafia but who cares. Maybe acrofoles as well. Maybe ritoky not and he just decided to be a shitter. Problem is people with low hp (Koshi, GB) are going to be town and getting killed off by mafia because mafia can do it. And then others like hama, ritoky, acrofoles, TL are just running around (almost) full hp because mafia is healing them and protecting them etc etc etc. Balancing this game is hard but you can't expect town to play together. While mafia just plays together. There are still 22 players in the game and maybe powerful spells unlock or get upgraded so who knows. But my hopes are low. | ||
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People townread me D2 and I die due to all the "free damage" N2. so bad. | ||
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On October 25 2016 18:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I used an ability and got RBed. I didn't do any damage. How do you know this? | ||
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If wyvern ulti is like 2 up and 2 down and 4 people basic attacked me this is fucking bullshit. | ||
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On October 25 2016 18:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I did not attack you. Well then I don't understand anything. | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:07 iamperfection wrote: I took 5 dmg So the people around me took 5 damage. Ok. | ||
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It is 100% confirmed Artanis and iamp attacked me and I had NOTHING to do with it. | ||
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On October 25 2016 18:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I did not attack you. you attacked me. | ||
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On October 25 2016 18:49 Acrofales wrote: Paged back a bit, but cannot find any reason for koshi to assume winter wyvern ulti'd him, nor even any reason to assume winter wyvern is in the game, or what the fuck the ulti would even do if it were. Did I miss a claim somewhere? Cuz that makes fucking sense from my POV. He used winter wyvern curse on me and I got RB, and the people around me attack me for basic damage, probably also RBing them. If that happened. Everything is explained. Even the 5 damage they got. | ||
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On October 25 2016 18:58 ptmc wrote: imo a no-lynch ability will get used on cooldown. It is just too powerful. Anything else is just wifom. It also probably means we have D3 to lynch the no-lynch-guy, since it will probably be off cooldown D4. Happy fun times. There are 1 shot spells. This is 1 shot or I suggest you all post role PM if it happens again. | ||
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So I don't understand why Acrofoles can't grasp what happened. Good chance he is just pretending though. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:06 Acrofales wrote: Okay, so you're just crazy. Think your explanation through. It makes literally no sense at all. At best, this is complete speculation. At worst, this is a TMI explanation of (a) Winter Wyvern being in the game and (b) what the fuck his ultimate would do in the case that he is in the game. Seeing as you're almost certainly scum anyway, I think the second explanation is the correct one and you're making up some bizarro claim based on whatever scum abilities are in the game. Well. iamp and Artanis both attacked me (this is fucking 100% confirmed to me) while they claim they didn't. gogo explain that. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:07 Acrofales wrote: 1. How do you know WW is in the game? 2. How do you know what his dota abilities translate to in mafia? On October 25 2016 19:09 Koshi wrote: Well. iamp and Artanis both attacked me (this is fucking 100% confirmed to me) while they claim they didn't. gogo explain that. Explain it any way different than I did | ||
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1) Disbelieve I got damaged and I instantly knew I had to fakeclaim damage. 2) Disbelieve both Artanis and iamp claiming lost 5hp 3) Disbelieve BM confirms I attacked Artanis or Artanis attack me and lost it. He seems to not know how. 4) Disbelieve Artanis claims RB and not attacking me. Explain all this with me being Balanar using curse of Darkness. GOGOGOGOGOGO | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:11 Acrofales wrote: How do you know it was iamp and artanis, and not <insert random ranged character here>. You're making my brain melt. READ MY FUCKING POST YOU FUCK | ||
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You did attack me. It is confirmed. Don't be stupid plssssssss | ||
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That is actually an extremely well thought out, balanced hero for mafia. Sadly mafia is op as fuck. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't make up these things, why would I when half the game scumreads you? I could've scumread you if I wanted to attack you. You're not making any sense. You were forced to attack me bro. I did 5 damage to you because you attacked me. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:17 Acrofales wrote: Lion, Visage, Bane, Sniper, Zeus, etc. nuked you (or pretty much any other char with a nuke). Artanis got pinged by random ranged player 1. Iamp got pinged by random ranged player 2. Artanis also got RB'd by random player 3. Iamp didn't get RB'd. Luna, Lich, Gyrocopter, Tidehunter, etc. ultimated the lot of you, making you take lots of damage and Artanis and Iamp a little bit. Artanis got RB'd by random other player You see, I can ALSO make up random abilities for random Dota heroes. Doesn't mean they're in the game, or even have those abilities. Ok it is fine. I am just way more smarter than you. Sorry. I thought we were the same level. Or at least you were a bit higher. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:19 Acrofales wrote: Wait, you're even more insane than I thought. Iamperfection wasn´t even NEXT to you on D2. Dandel was. And he wasn't roleblocked for sure, because he moved to next to Koroko, exactly as he claimed he should. Koroko claimed 0 damage, though. I know I am right. Then Dandel moved away before the curse happened. I don't care. It happened. It makes perfect 100% sense. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:23 beentheredonethat wrote: Holy. Read. I have attacked you which is probably why I was damaged. So you have a passive that hurts attackers? Yes, 5 damage. Can you confirm you got that each time? | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:27 beentheredonethat wrote: Yes, Koshi, I can confirm this. Koshi is not lieing about his passive. If it was available since D1. I am somewhat sorry I forgot to mention this. But it's your own fault for attacking me. | ||
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The 5 hp damage is confirmed. Explain now pls | ||
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imo kill Vivax/Luna first. Afterthat ritoky/sicklucker/skynx/Acro. the ones who don't die and don't have damage done to them. If sicklucker is town, he should check heroes for being full hp. Endgame it is up to people to find the mafia in LT/Hama and others. If WoS is mafia it is perfect for him that he can't post. I almost can't believe it lasts till forever. sicklucker probably knows it only last for 1 phase or so. Rupture isn't forever. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:35 beentheredonethat wrote: Acro, stop right there. Take a break. Reevaluate. Koshi, is your double lynch gone? No but I am dead. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:36 beentheredonethat wrote: I think sicklucker is town. What do you think about my reasoning, 1-3 pages ago? I think he is playing extremely bad and I didn't forget his waffle on me. So he can die. If he is town he should do exactly what I say. | ||
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But again. You can read it yourselves soon enough. On October 25 2016 23:52 Acrofales wrote: Koshi: is your action refunded if you get roleblocked? Why didn't you claim roleblocked FIRST THING rather than wine about the damage you took? I wondered about 2 things. 1) Why didn't my ulti go through 2) Why did I get so much damage. 1) I still don't know because this game has a closed set up and all kind of shit can happen. But my opinion is that I got stunned by something and due to BM saying I did 5 damage to Artanis I believe people around me attacked me. Winter Wyvern just makes sense to me. So if somewhere in the game you copcheck somebody and he is WW just murder him. Also, I can't be RB'ed. So I knew it wasn't that. 2) I didn't know what happened to my ulti so I just ignored that for the time being, thought it was tied to the darkness thing, thought the night kinda came early so the EoD resolution just didn't happen, anyway, I was upset about getting so much damage so I whined about that. I felt I played a very townie D2. Almost cheated my way to confirmed town status, but you people are really just too dense. PS: I still have my ulti. That I know. PSII: RIP Koshi | ||
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Not sure if I believe ritokys claim but at least I correctly read him as not town. Really suspicious I got hit so much each day and now suddenly nobody comes to finish me off when there is a watcher ward on me. Could be that mafia tried to frame a townie killing me. I still have my double lynch but it can probably be stopped by mafia. I am 100% sure I got stunned yesterday and that the people around me attacked me. Even if you don't believe me, it is what happened. It makes too much sense. btdt flipped town and CONFIRMED getting 5 damage D1, N1, D2 each time he attacked me. iamp and artanis CONFIRMED getting 5 damage D2. For me it is CONFIRMED I got hit for 30ish D2 alone. What else can it be? ##vote Vivax For me the core of the mafia team is still Skynx/Luna/Vivax. PS I still have to read some pages but wanted to make a quick post. | ||
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On October 26 2016 20:36 Dandel Ion wrote: you could be scum. but luckily it's not actually up to you what we do dont be scared by his bs retaliation claims, and even if it was true, murdering him is the right play anyway. i can take 5 or whatever to get rid of the SK, and so can you. saves more hp in the long run anyway. absolutely no reason that even if he WAS honest (nope) to assume artanis is smart enough to kill mafia for us, so negotiations are over. Is this about me now? | ||
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-He claims to be 3p -He gets an item completely useless to his role. -He gets an item that is solely "pro-town" as 3p, sounds like backseat modding and I don't think they would do that. -The item does completely nothing, I was hit for tons each day and then right when I am about to die nothing happens. -The item sees I heal myself? Which seems like a tracker and not a watcher. Which is pretty cool so I am confirmed not doing bad things. Ritoky should be forced to claim his wincon to the smallest details. Because even with mafia killing each day 3 townies, the game still lasts long enough for him to make 5, even 6 copies. Unless Vivax is not mafia and we decide to not lynch mafia 3 more times after that. Which I don't believe at all. If Vivax flips town, Ritoky should always be the next lynch. Not that a single hair on my head thinks that. | ||
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Extremely unlikely. The mafia counterstory: Mafia has a watcher, ritoky claims his actions as his own to gain towncred especially if I get killed because then they can even push a misslynch, ritoky himself does bad things during the night. | ||
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Can you claim how many achievements you need to complete and how many you already did complete? | ||
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmm ok then. That is just weird though. Why force somebody to waste a turn? | ||
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Still, you believe he is actually 3p meepo that just clones himself and then gets removed from the game? That sounds fucking stupid as fuck no? | ||
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On October 26 2016 21:46 Dandel Ion wrote: claim he needs 10 wincons 'oops guys not quite there yet' 'nope still not quite, just do random thing X for me' 'i guess that wasn't enough! let me just kill a coulpe people' i can see into the future. Well, force him to claim so we can put on the bullshit detector at least. | ||
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On October 26 2016 21:50 Dandel Ion wrote: join me in punching him he'll sing pretty soon. Why do you believe ritoky his claim over Artanis? Artanis his role I can understand the mechanics. What does ritoky do? N1 Clone (tell the game on clone account he is 3p) N2 Clone N3 Clone N4 Clone D5 win and remove from game? EXCITING! | ||
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On October 26 2016 07:07 ritoky wrote: This town is such a trainwreck that they are probably going to lose before I can complete my win condition, so I sacrificed a night of cloning to use this sentry ward that I somehow got. Koshi should have been a prime target for information but people are mind-bogglingly dumb I suppose. Unless there is also a 3p vendor in the game it is the hosts. | ||
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On October 26 2016 22:00 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh you were right he did 'just get it.' that is weird. I'm still not concerning myself with 3P claims over sure scum yet. Ignoring them is bad play. Look at iamp in Palmar Themed game. Pressure them hard and learn everything they can do or kill them. Then they are forced to claim everything or play against their wincon. | ||
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On October 26 2016 22:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Random thought: Is there anything we can learn from vivax's filter? He did post a little before end of D1. And I know it's scum and unflipped association and whatnot but I'm curious. We could, but we could also use this time to focus on 3p and do that tomorrow. 96 hours left in that day as well. | ||
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On October 27 2016 00:06 Acrofales wrote: This makes sense. And Koshi can be scum AND saying these things at the same time. I'm so happy What a shit comment. | ||
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On October 26 2016 13:07 GlowingBear wrote: WoS, dandelion, skynx, Exo, lunaticman Probs mafia team Vivax, Acrofoles, skynx, ritoky, lunaticman | ||
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On October 26 2016 15:49 ExO_ wrote: The first thing I notice is this. On day 1 we had: + Show Spoiler + On October 22 2016 03:39 disformation wrote: Vote Count - Day 1 Vivax (5): Tubesock, iamperfection, Hopeless1der, Lunaticman (4): ritoky, Koshi, HamazuraXTakitsubo, sicklucker, Koshi (3): Lunaticman, beentheredonethat, Skynx ritoky (2): Holyflare, Kurumi (2): WaveofShadow (1): Dandel Ion (1): Lord Tolkien (1): Kurumi Tictock (1); Vivax Rels (0): ptmc (0): Skynx (0): iamperfection (0): Holyflare (0): beentheredonethat (0): Hopeless1der (0): ExO_ (0): Not voted (4): Tictock, Rels, Eversince, WaveofShadow It looks like Vivax is about to be owned. Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00) and resolves one hour later, at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted. HF came in and voted TT, and then you have iamp, Tubesock, Dandel, Ritoky all within 5 minutes of each other. This made him the lead wagon at 7 votes, with lunatic man being 2nd closest at 3. Tubesock then bails for Koshi, a few other random votes happen, before BM/Koshi/bndt all come in to seal the deal. On day 2 Vivax was basically a lock, before lunatic started really picking up some steam. TS says some really interesting things in this time period: + Show Spoiler + On October 25 2016 02:48 Tubesock wrote: I don't think Lunatic is mafia. But I don't have any solid reasons. Mostly I didn't like the wagon yesterday. ##Unvote ##Vote: Vivax ##Vote: Skynx On October 25 2016 03:39 Tubesock wrote: I think Luna is town. I won't vote for him. Looking through his filter, I tried to gather his reads. Towns: beentheredonethat 1 of Koshi/Artanis (and only because of dead HF) I think that's it. Scums: HolyFlare Koshi (if not Koshi then Artanis[Xp] and 100% sheep of HF) I don't know Lunaticman. Never played with him. But if he is mafia, is he lunatic enough to tunnel hard on 2 strong willed players? Like right out the gate. He immediately votes Koshi, then still within the first 12 hours or so of the game he starts on HF. And Never leaves either of them the ENTIRE time. He's still on Koshi. Mafia or town, going headstrong on HF kinda means you just may die. Lunaticman attacks and goes after him. He doesn't veer off from them. WHich i think is towny too. I know when I start thinking strongly that someone is mafia, I get more obstinate. It pretty much dominates my conversation if no one is listening or agreeing. There was shade on HF when he wasn't playing. Then he did and everyone thought he was town (otherwise why follow his TT case?). Lunatic still scum'd him till HF died. He had perfect opportunity to town HF and get off HF's bad side and still look good for going up against him. But town doesn't do that. I spoiled a few of his posts but not all. The ones I skipped either were repeats of earlier posts (like HF is scum for making him appear bad) etc. I think his main crime isn't putting in 12 hours a day here and only giving 5 player reads. Maybe a bit defensive but I've seen worse from town. Lunaticman is town. + Show Spoiler [1st post votes Koshi] + On October 20 2016 19:32 Lunaticman wrote: I just can't handle more of Koshi's platitudes. Obvious scum play as usual. #Vote Koshi + Show Spoiler [towns beenthere] + On October 20 2016 21:30 Lunaticman wrote: The tone of beentheredonethat reads as town to me, putting him in my town circle for now. + Show Spoiler [Fear reads HF, next post scums HF] + On October 21 2016 01:22 Lunaticman wrote: HF, looking like town but I'm not ready to buy what's on sale yet. Still have trust issues with you. On October 21 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote: That is some shady accusations without any reasons and I beg to differ greatly. I have been on point, I think you are trying to undermine my credibility. Typical mafia play. Second mafia is probably HF after Koshi. + Show Spoiler [angst spirit] + On October 21 2016 04:39 Lunaticman wrote: Stop sheeping and undermining me, I was meta reading Koshi independently from anyone, in fact bt was sheeping my read not the other way around. HF is obviously trying to make me look scum. + Show Spoiler [defensive] + On October 21 2016 04:46 Lunaticman wrote: I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why. On October 21 2016 04:50 Lunaticman wrote: haha yes you can say it like that if you want but it is more the way it was done. No reasoning just undermining my credibility with no reason and ignoring it as soon as possible, changing the subject from Koshi etc. + Show Spoiler [More HF Scum] + On October 22 2016 18:39 Lunaticman wrote: HF this entire post is just undermining town authority, not one real target just suspicion on an endless merry go around. Your playing exactly like Koshi. You also spend to much time mining credibility from other players making sure to get on their good side and playing on your reputation. For example why are there no townies on your list? That is more important than 6 different scum reads that amount to nothing. A more productive move would be to try to analyze how the wagon formed and why. That way we could probably see if Koshi was indeed saved by a scum mate or not. On October 22 2016 19:07 Lunaticman wrote: Chill, maybe I was a bit vague. I wanted you to elaborate a bit more on the "case" from your perspective and why the miss lynch was so successful. So I can analyze if you are indeed town or not. For example you look extremely scummy for saving Koshi and miss lynching. I also find it disturbing that even though you haven't contributed with anything productive for the town expect a miss lynch you still seem to want to be the town leader. Everything I have seen from you points to you being mafia, especially from a meta perspective. The only thing I find a bit lenient is that town tends to make more mistakes than mafia so that's nice I suppose. + Show Spoiler [Koshi/Art 1 is mafia] + On October 24 2016 00:10 Lunaticman wrote: There is one scum between Koshi/Artanis we have to put trust in HF:s read. I'm sorry I ever doubted you HF! <3 On October 24 2016 23:48 Lunaticman wrote: Also either of Art and Koshi are mafia so you remember when I die. The really interesting thing here is these posts are about 50 minutes apart. Instead of seeing something then drawing a conclusion based on what he saw, TS first drew the conclusion that lunaticman is town, then found the evidence to back it up. I find TS highly suspicious.He hops off the Vivax wagon (after being the first to vote him), and then he hops off the TT wagon day 1 as soon as it got a majority. He defends lunaticman as the lunatic wagon is gaining steam on day 2. And then surprise No lynch on day 2. I think this heavily implicates Tubesock. I could see Lunaticman being either scum or town here. It makes a lot more sense to me if Lunaticman is scum, as it would explain why day 2 ends without a lynch with the threat of Koshi's Double lynch. However for me to accept this idea Koshi has to be telling the truth. I can't stand playing with Koshi b/c of how intolerable he is to everyone. It makes me think he's a lying and scum even when he is telling the truth. On the other side of the coin, I could also see TS making a case for Lunaticman in an attempt to earn towncred for later. But then I'm left with the question: why did day 2 end without a lynch? Maybe scum didn't end the day maybe it was a 3rd party role? Or maybe Vivax is scum and the move was purely to keep him alive?...hmmm I'm not sure. Either way, my initial thoughts are that TS looks very scummy to me. I think I'm gonna check out Koshi now. But I think TS is my strongest scum read after Vivax. Exo is also possible town. The guy looks lost in the grand scheme but this is a solid read and with the follow up it is clear he believes in his read. I don't think TS is mafia though. | ||
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On October 27 2016 02:50 GlowingBear wrote: I didn't visit hopeless a single time. I did investigate ptmc, ritoky, and Hama. I was rolenlocked while visiting ptmc. and? What was ritoky and hama? | ||
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On October 27 2016 02:20 Acrofales wrote: You're mafia's rolecop? Who's what? Maybe you can help the SK Artanis fulfill his mission and bugger off. ↑ sounds like nervous scum to me. | ||
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On October 27 2016 02:58 GlowingBear wrote: Phew. I'll come clean. I'm 3p. One of my win con is to find my enemies and eliminate them. I have an investigative role that says if certain person is my enemy or not. They are not my enemies. My other win con is to survive until the end of the game Ok sorry for my previous support. You can die. | ||
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I have to work from this list. I think sicklucker is also more likely mafia than not. Who started the rumor there are only 5 mafia? Is this confirmed? | ||
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On October 26 2016 15:27 Bill Murray wrote: oh shut up he was obviously going to be lynched and i dont trust youre not scum with that post restriction ability For somebody who is hard scumreading SL this is a very meek post. | ||
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Vivax, Acrofoles, skynx, ritoky, lunaticman, sicklucker, hama, kurumi, Bill Murray, GB So bad. | ||
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On October 22 2016 13:39 HamazuraXTakitsubo wrote: We were supposed to be in the night phase now right? Can anyone explain what happened to that? Let's call this guy town. He was also arguing with HF during the night. Don't think a newb scum would do that. | ||
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On October 27 2016 03:19 ptmc wrote: gut feels from least likely to most: SL, BM(seems too uninvested, claims to not even do night actions), Hama(is he even still alive?), Acro, Skynx, Ritoky, Kurumi, as good as confirmed: GB, Luna, Vivax Yeah BM looks extremely clueless in his filter. As mafia he would more likely have an idea. | ||
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On October 27 2016 03:22 Acrofales wrote: Let's call him yawn-modkillbait instead. Why are you trying so hard as mafia? | ||
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On October 27 2016 03:25 iamperfection wrote: Bm usually spams though no? Perhaps 5th party. Pretty sure the counter with him is on 6 atm. | ||
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On October 27 2016 03:26 Acrofales wrote: Case me. I'm bored town waiting for your scumbuddy Vivax to flip. Then we can wait another 72 hours for GB to flip. So trolling the scummers is my entertainment right now. It's why I'm entertaining you too. Case me up! oh btw, me healing myself (or visiting myself), how does that work with me being Balanar and being melee etc? Which was 80% of your shitcase. | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:06 Acrofales wrote: I thought we were friends. But for real, I have been really pro-town. My reads are all real. The only one I might have exaggerated because it was easier than actually trying to figure it out is Koshi. He's too bizar to make sense of. You fucker. I am town. | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Just trying to explore the wtf so many 3rd party angle. It doesn't even make any sense for my own role since I can win with both town and scum so I'm not even making any sense to myself @_@ Why do you believe ritoky is 3p? | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Or Lunatic. Forgot all about Lunatic. Lunatic or Kurumi? Which is the better shot? Let's go Lunatic. We can kill him. | ||
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Can't you just remove GB and yourself now? It would make my life more pleasant. Also removes 2 scum candidates. | ||
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On October 27 2016 02:43 Koshi wrote: Vivax, Acrofoles, skynx, ritoky, lunaticman I am pretty much 5/5 anti town | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:21 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh and I'm almost completely certain now that the reason hamazura hasn't been modkilled is because scum team is smaller than normal and he's scum You saw my read? I doubt he is mafia. Could be, but he towntelled. | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:25 Acrofales wrote: This came after ritoky claimed and I am not anti-town. So poo. I have been calling ritoky mafia since D1 so it counts. And he is mafia and not 3p. | ||
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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BTW ARTANIS IS Winter Wyvern in the game? | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:44 Acrofales wrote: Hey, don't blame me. I soaked up a shitload of scum KP last night. Do you know how much? | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:46 Acrofales wrote: No, but I was at 49 before last night, and when I flip you'll figure out why I don't know how much  So I guess you are on 0 and are going to die this phase anyway or something? Lucky you. | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'll just name the others. Juggernaut, Riki, Meepo, Oracle. We've already got a meepo claim from ritoky and an oracle claim from hopeless. What do you need to do vs Meepo? | ||
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On October 27 2016 09:35 Bill Murray wrote: Should I claim only claim 3p. PS: if you claim 3p, claim everything in detail as far as the rules allow it. | ||
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On October 27 2016 18:47 Dandel Ion wrote: wasnt there some movement wonkiness with somebody else n1 too? skynx i believe so that's possible @koshi you said you still had that vote damage thing yeah? @sicklucker you totally can amplify damage this phase yeah? does it only work on basic attacks, or is there SYNERGY with, say, the thing noted above. Yes. 6-7 votes on somebody should do it. Unless they are centaur, bristleback and or have resistance passive. But it should work. In theory. | ||
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Ah no. Just couldn't get to computer till now. It's ok. Not important. | ||
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My earlier reads still stand. Lynch Skynx/ritoky. | ||
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On October 28 2016 09:15 Tubesock wrote: I'll attack Koshi tonight. o rly Missed this first time around. | ||
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On October 28 2016 10:06 Tubesock wrote: You need to lynch me. I won't die to KP This comment is weird. It seems like it is directed to mafia (to taunt them), but TS townreads sl. So likely mafia!TS vs town!sl. | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:07 Tubesock wrote: someone attacked you. I attacked Skynx. Tonight I attack either Vivax or Koshi. Koshi was hit for 30 yesterday so is already wounded. On October 28 2016 09:15 Tubesock wrote: I'll attack Koshi tonight. Why do you want to constantly attack me? Do you think I am mafia? And if I am, why? Because I don't read anything about that in your filter. The opposite even. | ||
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On October 29 2016 01:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: One of my abilities is basically a greencheck on someone. I can instakill someone and I doubt that's on a mafia but I'm gonna sit on it for now. Prob punching Skynx. Are those 2 different abilities? | ||
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We need to lynch mafia back to back now. Skynx --> Tubesock/kurumi Will filterdive Vivax/Skynx looking for clues. When I am less drunk. Will be slow gmae anyway now. | ||
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On October 29 2016 07:27 ritoky wrote: who gave me the sentry ward? that is the true mystery. full claim + wincon pls. | ||
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PS: WoS you need to claim this shit at the end of the day. Not at the start. and gather clues. So bad. | ||
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On October 29 2016 19:33 sicklucker wrote: bill murry your reads are not the worst but they are not mine. sheep me more. wave and iamp seem to be on the same page and koshi is useless I have been saying skynx/ts/kurumi and all 3p are mafia since early d3. I only considered DI cuz his early spam. Took that read too long with me. I am on phone this weekend. Wont post much. Imo we just lynch skynx and see what happens. Tubesock is also fine. If skynx is full rilecopped and has no damage. Cuz he is killing me. But I heal more. | ||
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Hisxplay comes more likely from town in lylo than a mafia trying to look good for shen it is 2vs1 endgame. Effort already started in the night, nor reason to buss entire team. Just needed 1 ml. If he is mafia he took control perfect moment witht he idea to put himself supergood lategame by bussing his entire team and dragging this on for x more cycles. 2 much.work. Inam not 100% but pretty good feeling this makes sense. You on other hand can still be easily.mafia though. | ||
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On October 30 2016 06:02 Bill Murray wrote: koshi might actually be bussing his partners and i like this. lynch kurumi next Or Koshi is a really good and talented player and figured out the game before any claims D3. | ||
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On October 30 2016 22:26 sicklucker wrote: well im using a basic attack on exo because no ones cordinating any attack and I assume were just gonna lynch skynx tube and kurimi in any order... maybe in three turns if a miracle does not happen we can get a free mafia kill Everybody should attack Exo then. Literally everybody. | ||
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On October 31 2016 03:40 ritoky wrote: also does sl railing on about me being 3p w/o reading the thread dumbtell him as not mafia with iamp/koshi/ppl who read the thread? meh wouldn't bet the game on this kinda reasoning. | ||
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Artanis/Ritoky might be SK. Last time LT this time Exo with a lot of hp who dies at day post. Last 2 mafia in TS, Kurumi, Dandel. And I am forgetting BM. | ||
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On October 31 2016 07:13 iamperfection wrote: Like 2 scum get killed and your pissed off kurumi??????????????? lael I would be pissed off as well. | ||
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My previous post + On October 29 2016 20:08 sicklucker wrote: notice put you at the bottom of the list and only include you if its a 5 mafia game and not a 4 mafia game. still mafia doe + On October 30 2016 22:26 sicklucker wrote: well im using a basic attack on exo because no ones cordinating any attack and I assume were just gonna lynch skynx tube and kurimi in any order... maybe in three turns if a miracle does not happen we can get a free mafia kill Pretty much confirmed in my book. | ||
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On October 31 2016 07:24 iamperfection wrote: I'm confirmed You are right under the cool kids club. Sorry. | ||
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On October 31 2016 08:14 sicklucker wrote: read page 238 on i think its a slip. No where in this game did anyone think nightslaker was also a role cop I think. Espically since you told us he stopped koshis double lynch. Also I pretty much make him look like mafia the way he reacts to everything I saw that post and something in my brain made a twitch but I just ignored it. That is almost always a slip. I can't see how it isn't. | ||
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On October 31 2016 08:23 sicklucker wrote: lol I cant believe exo died. I diddnt expect it I doubt mafia expected it. What is happening are we winning? I only did 9 damage thanks whoever helped with that Going to assume ritoky is SK. Or Artanis. We had a flip each dayphase. Probably ritoky clones at night and kill at day. | ||
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On October 31 2016 08:25 sicklucker wrote: I think if no one brought up the idea that skyx could be both a rolecop and the guy who stopped koshis double lynch then its 100% a slipp. Because thats a crazy strong ability and its hard to think an town would ever think skynx is a rolecop there after are town rolecop claimed his abilitys already and left that party out. you know? If it wasn't brought up anywhere he is mafia. Very simple. Let's hear what he says. | ||
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On October 31 2016 08:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Artanis claimed SK ages ago. Or some 3p equivalent He claimed something completely different. | ||
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On October 31 2016 08:35 ritoky wrote: how can i be an sk? i have proven clones in the thread as my night actions on 2 nights.....literally cannot be sk lol. Don't pretend to be stupid. What do you do during day? | ||
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On October 31 2016 08:38 ritoky wrote: auto attack people. claimed em all, attacked gb, attacked tubesock, attacked sl, attacked kurumi. and you moved towards them each day? | ||
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On October 31 2016 08:42 WaveofShadow wrote: This? I don't think is evidence of SKynx claiming rolecop, Kurumi claimed it himself in thread. Or was there another reason I was supposed to quote this? Hmm. Ok. Could mean Dandel is telling the truth if Kurumi didn't claim before this point. | ||
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On October 31 2016 08:44 ritoky wrote: i mean all my actions can be accounted for except my n2 action. just follow my movements in day phase, see the clones on n1/n3. i have been pretty transparent outside of fake claiming 3p to avoid dmg/lynch. my n2 action could be accounted for too if someone would fucking just admit to giving me the damn sentry ward. but apparently that is so super secret that they're going to take it to their grave. Ok. Your story checks out then. Acrofoles claimed the sentry ward was legit 1 turn to use. Artanis is sk | ||
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On October 31 2016 08:55 Dandel Ion wrote: well actually im not sure if you're scum or bad, it could still be koshi sl on the other hand Good strategy calling the confirmed townies mafia. Who is mafia out of Kurumi/TS/BM? Artnais? | ||
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On October 31 2016 12:14 Bill Murray wrote: bah. his dmg reduction actually correlates with mine on when he used it . n2 mine shifted from 25% to 50% still there is like no universe where kurumi and i can both have that passive as scum This is a slip right? | ||
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On October 31 2016 12:20 Bill Murray wrote: accidentally posted this in the voting thread - sorry all there has to have been a scum on the lunaticman wagon here has to... that would mean koshi, kurumi, ritoky, artanis 1 maybe 2 are scum probably just 1 i think artanis is assassin considering 2 would be stupid theres usually 3 assassins in this setup so that leaves koshi, kurumi, ritoky ritoky just pwned exo, he looks towny so hes out that leaves koshi and kurumi koshi called the shot on exo so hes out that leaves kurumi as the mafia on the lunaticman wagon This wasn't a real vote count because mafia knew the night would end early. On top of that, we were voting Lunatic with 8 because we had a double lynch. But it is true that mafia tends to spread out. | ||
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On October 31 2016 18:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote: So who are we hitting today? It's night. | ||
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On October 31 2016 18:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote: So who are we hitting today? Oh you can hit at night. nvm. Hit DI. Lynch Kurumi. | ||
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2 Koshi 3 Tubesock 4 iamperfection 5 Dandel Ion 7 Kurumi 8 ritoky 9 Bill Murray 10 sicklucker 12 WaveofShadow 10 players. 7 town 2 mafia 1 sk worst case after night 5 town 2 mafia 1 sk worst case after day and we lynch mafia 4 town 1 mafia 1 sk worst case after night 2 town 1 mafia 1 sk or if we can protect ourselves 3 town 1 mafia 1 sk then after night 2 town 1 sk or mafia 2 vs 1 lylo So town needs to and protect themselves and lynch antitown 4/5 lynches. Seems balanced. | ||
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If mafia shoots within Koshi/WoS/Sicklucker we lynch mafia. Sweet deal if you ask me. | ||
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On October 31 2016 19:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Given these stats and the nightstalker thing I doubt there's more than 2 antitown left. 6 vs 18 is pretty balanced if within the 6 they can shoot themselves. | ||
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On October 31 2016 20:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I am very curious how you plan on distinguishing between scum and an sk that may or may not even be in the game. Reading filters / play game. Fact is, we know who is more likely sk and who is more likely mafia, we will go for more likely sk. | ||
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On October 31 2016 20:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Of course I will, it's against my best interests as you people seem to think I can be an sk. It doesn't make any sense to avoid people who are likely mafia on an sk witch hunt when my role already included killing some players that for all I know could be town. You claim you can't win this game at all. So how is it against YOUR best interest that town doesn't try to find an SK. You lose anyway right? Or is that 0.1% chance suddenly way higher? Chances are high that there is 6 antitown in this game, that is just proper balance. 5 makes less sense. But due to LT and Exo flipping it is very likely there is an SK in the game + 5 mafia. Or it is 4 mafia 1 sk, and we are looking really good atm. So yes, we should consider lynching the SK because he probably has as much kp as the mafia team on his own. Or close to it. Lynching SK tomorrow actually makes it more likely for town to win than lynching mafia. And it's not that we are lynching townies to find the SK, we are lynching in the PoE pool but want to have a good chance to kill either SK or mafia. | ||
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On October 31 2016 18:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I am not an SK. I have no idea. I have barely paid attention to the game ever since figuring my chances of winning are .1%, which happened like 4 days ago or something On October 31 2016 19:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I dunno, DI hasn't really felt scummy to me. He hates playing as mafia and with the team we know so far that seems unlikely. Most likely the last people that need offing are in kurumi/tube. This feels like you are pushing an agenda btw. | ||
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On October 31 2016 20:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I still don't like getting lynched. I rather get endgamed. It's stupid but that's how it is. Sure. Nobody likes to be lynched, but your streak is not getting lynched as town. And that wont be broken. I take it you are lynched as mafia before? Also, "I don't like to be lynched so don't lynch me" is like the worst defense ever. | ||
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On October 31 2016 20:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Except the post afterwards I already rescind and note how DI would make sense as mafia? Yes I know, that is not the point. Point is you don't know enough to figure out there is likely an SK and dodge my question completely. But when asked who we should lynch you name 3 people who are mafia. | ||
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I find it suspicious you dodge my question about the SK (pretending there is none and we shouldn't worry about it, using not paying attention as an excuse) but when asked about who we should lynch, you name 3 people. I feel there is a disconnect. | ||
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On November 01 2016 06:36 ritoky wrote: i took no damage, and i attacked dandel and killed him :D Did you do the full damage? | ||
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For me mafia is Tubesock ---> Kurumi ------> BM SK is Ritoky ---> BM ---> Artanis For some reason I believe Artanis his shitty role. On the other hand, he is so specific, I don't understand how he is not modkilled yet. But w.e. Maybe it is because he has such a shitty role. BM is somewhat weird. He is townread by everybody and kept up the same play the entire game. That is smart if you are mafia or SK. Just keep doing what you are doing and don't stir in any many pots. As town I would think he somehow would once break his cycle of afk -->spam post --->afk Tubesock I have no words for. Fuck him. I can lynch him with all the spite in the world. The End. Either he is town and can rot in hell, or he is mafia and I am awesome. Ritoky just lied about his role. I know he said he could instakill people. And now suddenly he can only do 30 damage which is 10 damage each clone??? BULLSHIT. Reasoning? He wants to frame somebody else as the one being SK. Kurumi --> meh. I just sheep others tbh. | ||
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##vote ritoky atm I am lynching liars. I know I said I would lynch mafia though. meh. But I have really 0 good reasons to suspect BM of anything...... But guess what. That is how I won 3 mafia games already. Well let's say 2. | ||
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On November 01 2016 07:34 ritoky wrote: i said i could probably 1shot most players left per cycle. i do 15 every day phase, feel free to ask kurumi for confirmation. then i do 30 at night. 45 per cycle 1 shots most people at this point i assume. plus i am pretty much confirmed town at this point. i can't be sk because i made clones at night 2 nights in which the "sk" killed people. i have mod confirmed actions that preclude me from being sk. plus all of my actions have been stated in the thread and are traceable via movement (which you have done and checked out koshi). plus i just killed mafia. feelsgoodman. ahhhhh it is true. But my feelings point toward you. ##unvote ok. I will not vote yet. I am torn anyway. | ||
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On November 01 2016 07:36 ritoky wrote: idk i didn't damage exo, i attacked kurumi. but like 4 people or so claimed to hit exo. 1 of them was artanis who i assume does a lot of damage? Yes but he had 80 hp and regained life. At least somebody hit him for 50. Just like tonight somebody hit Dandel for 50. And then you 30. That is possible. | ||
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On November 01 2016 07:43 Tubesock wrote: Koshi. You should lynch me over Ritoky. He's actually confirmed town. He is confirmed not mafia. | ||
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Which is funny because TS claimed to be SK. But that would be too much balls from the hosts. Make the SK SK. | ||
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On November 01 2016 07:49 ritoky wrote: my hesitation about kurumi is that he claimed he could do 30 damage to me last night and then didn't....which maybe mafia thought they could spin me as a lynch target so he did other things, but when i am claiming to do a lot of damage per cycle, i feel like as mafia he takes that opportunity? But being able to do damage to "claimed 3p" seems so fucking weird though. It counters Mirana leap if it can be done instantly, but I found it a weird claim. | ||
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The "right" lynch is Kurumi. And then there is Artanis. | ||
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On November 01 2016 07:52 ritoky wrote: i don't know too much specifics about doto, but i know generally what bristleback does and i assumed it was like if x hits me, i can do a fuck ton of damage back to that person. 1) quill spray does damage around him and stacks. So first time you do it does 5 dmage, second time 10; third time 15 etc. 2) goo slows movement speed and attack speed from an enemy 3) some passive that if you attack BB from the back or the rear he will get reduced damage and each 150 damage he does a quil spray. 4 ulti) each time BB uses quil spray or goo he gains movement speed and attack speed. Not sure if it is all correct but that is bb | ||
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On November 01 2016 07:56 WaveofShadow wrote: Can play in a bit. I did a thing to Dandel. I don't know how much damage I did. Can you figure it out? Is it 50? | ||
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On November 01 2016 07:57 Tubesock wrote: I never claimed SK. Where did you get that? I am ignoring you. Don't ask me questions. I also googled your claim. | ||
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On November 01 2016 16:39 WaveofShadow wrote: So it's just tubesock and/or Kurumi and we win I guess? Tubesock what did you do last night Koshi you too I guess | ||
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On November 01 2016 15:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I killed sicklucker with my ability btw. Unfortunately my other wincon that I needed with it got voided when iamp died without me dealing any damage to him. You can lynch me but I only have 30hp left. Seems silly to me. Ok so this guys needs to go. Can we kill him EoD with basic attacks? | ||
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On November 01 2016 16:45 Bill Murray wrote: I want koshi and Tubesock to talk about Tubesock visit first He hit me with one of his spells. Second time now. Or third... It's ridiculous. But I outhealed his damage. | ||
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On November 01 2016 16:41 Bill Murray wrote: I'll heal you koshi I can heal myself again today. If you can do damage go Artanis, or otherwise heal yourself. | ||
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mafia killed iamp 3p killed dandel Artanis killed sicklucker Artanis needs to die with basic damage. And we need to lynch mafia / 3p to make a chance Last day. It will vs 3 vs 1 or 2 vs 1 vs 1 in which town loses always. Kingmaker situation. | ||
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BM did well under my pressure. Kinda tried to buddy me now I think of it... lol. Hmmm Kurumi just feels like the misslynch everybody is waiting for. Pushed entire game, shitlists, bad play... He was way better when he was mafia with me. | ||
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On November 01 2016 22:19 WaveofShadow wrote: This is good insight. At some point when I feel less lazy I'll try to read the two of them to pick out who it is. If it's Kurumi he was having a bad game/getting carried by those trying on his team (which I feel kinda fits though) if it's tubesock he's one of the tryhards but he's looked halfwaybdecent all game. Do you feel BM tried to buddy me? I don't think he ever called me town this game, and in his last bunch of posts he wanted to heal me + agreed with me somewhere. | ||
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On November 02 2016 07:58 Kurumi wrote: How much time do you think I've devoted to this game? I am not sure. If I were to lynch people I'd go Artanis -> Tube. Why Artanis over tube? You are more sure he is SK over tube mafia? Or do you think Artanis is mafia? | ||
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@Bill Murray Do you have any damage spell or only heal + shield? @Ritoky You already said it once but how much damage can you do EoD? | ||
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##vote Kurumi I like the big effort. I have some problems with your analysis but the main thing is that in your scumreads there is no room for an SK. If Kurumi is mafia, we have to look for an SK and not another mafia. Only when Kurumi flips SK, we should look for a mafia. We are missing the damage on Exo en Dandel. So unless they took huge damage early on and Vivax didn't send in heals, I don't see how they died. On November 02 2016 07:37 Kurumi wrote: And I'm going to vote Artanis for obvious reasons. 1) He's claimed 3p 2) that puts me on the top of the list, so I can shield damage from everyone by being on top Reason 2 is antitown thinking. Why would mafia/3p use kp on town!Kurumi? Only when Kurumi is one of the 2, then there is a good chance he will get targeted by KP by the other anti town. | ||
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On November 02 2016 21:10 WaveofShadow wrote: Who are we punching today? Artanis? Yes | ||
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On November 02 2016 22:37 Kurumi wrote: I did goo Artanis once, that was Day 3 and noone besides Vivax and Lunatic (also hama modkill) has died did that stop his KP or? ↑This is pure speculation.↓ I have 2 theories around SK. 1) SK is Artanis (/maybe BM) and he has a 50 damage shot each phase. Could makes sense each phase. 2) SK is ritoky and only recently his damage spell was high enough to kill people. He does like 25 each meepo. + he has a simple movement hit that he can use supplementing his SK shot. But I don't like the role for SK, because a good SK is forced to shoot each night. While ritoky cloned each night xcept once. So we got to think the meepo clone is a passive then, but then why didn't he clone when he put the ward... That's why I think Artanis is SK. | ||
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On November 02 2016 23:32 Koshi wrote: Just hit him or goo him pls. I don't want to die to ritoky. Always goo him. | ||
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On November 02 2016 23:50 Kurumi wrote: Like what I did is in line with my agenda this game: reduce damage flying around that's why my first four or so actions were goo, then went for a shield, then quilled, then attacked artanis, now gooing artanis again Well except for WoS I could kill anybody tbh. I could swap to ritoky. I don't believe he is town tbh. He started (D1/N1)way too stiff (basically wasn't having fun and wasn't looking for mafia), HF called it out and died. D2 we were too busy lynching Vivax and Lunatic and he didn't add anything. D3 he claimed 3p and that made sense with how he played. So we let him be while lynching Vivax and Lunatic. D4 he claimed he was town after all that could do massive damage and 1 shot people. That never happened and he then changed his story again and said he could only do 30 damage. On October 29 2016 13:50 ritoky wrote: i am just going to come clean now cuz it's gonna be an issue later; and i should probably give you guys the most amount of time to discuss and decide on this...since if wave truly has a red check then you at least have 3+ days to make a call. i am town. i played incredibly greedy and self-interested this game. so i will at least try to explain why. very early on i realized i did not have the willpower or the desire to play how i normally play and wanted to default into a sheeping role. as a result of this, many people were scum reading me for not being the me of old, but well....i am not really that dude anymore i guess. it just ain't in me no more. in order to alleviate myself from the possibility of being lynched i fake claimed 3p. however, there's more to the story. my role has an incredibly high amount of hp (the highest of any flipped champ thus far). but when i make a clone i have send the clone some of my hp in order to make them. the upside is that for every clone i have i do quite a substantial amount of more damage. at 3 clones now i can probably 1shot over half of the remaining players per phase i am alive. i needed to avoid chip/peripheral damage (which i did taking 0 damage all game) in order to develop myself into the late game dps master that i currently am. so 3rd party claiming makes me pretty much never targeted by damaging abilities thus i can pump out more clones and deal more damage. so i am sorry for being a greedy asshole and claiming 3p as town, i am sorry my play is so shit that you probably can't read me as town and will have a hard time believing me; but at least i no longer have to perpetuate a lie and you can all understand why i did what i did. On November 02 2016 09:01 ritoky wrote: 15 during day, 30 at night with my current amount of clones. This is not master of DPs at all. Especially because he claimed he had way more hp than all heroes that flipped so far. Which makes me think he has at least 150-200. So how is 30 dps a master of DPS? tldr: Ritoky is the person who refused to be open with town, and each time he is, he has lied and changed his story later on to further his own agenda. We should lynch ritoky and kill Artanis. Without doubt hitting at least the SK and maybe mafia + SK. Which is probably the best kp reduction we can have. ##unvote ##vote ritoky | ||
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On November 03 2016 00:09 Kurumi wrote: Koshi you remember that the "real" ritoky might be hiding under one of his Meepo's and we can actually only lynch an image? That's what I member That would be broken as fuck and I don't believe it. But yeah, that is another thing that isn't consistent with ritoky. First he says that he has low hp but he has to hide it under the meepos. Second he says that his main meepo has a shitton of hp but he has to give it to other meepos. Third he says that we could even kill or lynch a meepo "to buy time" and nothing will happen. Bullshit. | ||
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On November 03 2016 02:25 Kurumi wrote: well, ritoky's and artanis' claims can be very well be true to one fine print saying "I want you all dead" and that's what worries me. Still, I really believe we should get rid of confirmed KP than kill me before, but I don't have much to say besides that. don't hate me after the lynch too much thx Vote ritoky. Artanis will die to other damage? | ||
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BM can be mafia and doing big plays. Jailing WoS preventing checking him. Killing Artanis thinking he was SK. Tubesock I can lynch today. ritoky his story is shady as fuck but his movement checks outs. Artanis claimed to have received 25 damage. 10 from me, 15 from ritoky. He probably did kill Artanis tonight because I just healed myself. And he must have killed Dandel unless somebody else can claim that kill. | ||
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On November 04 2016 13:11 WaveofShadow wrote: So...Koshi's ability is scummy. Artanis having to survive a 'duel' with him doesn't say much on his own, but everything I said about his ability earlier in the game still rings true. The fact that he can essentially arbitrarily deal lethal or near-lethal damage to a target people are voting for without them knowing how they died is an amazing scum ability and a mediocre town one. That's not how it works. I have to duel somebody well before the deadline and both players get notified they entered a duel. Then we both get damage based on how many votes we have on us+ additional damage EoD. (which is not explained to the person getting dueled, just that we are dueling). It is easily possible both people survive the duel. That's why I asked as many people as possible to vote Lunatic. And it is confirmed by Artanis his role saying "survive the duel". | ||
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beentheredonethat killed night 2 as the Shadow Fiend! ptmc killed night 3 as the Juggernaut! Hopeless1der killed night 3 as the Oracle! iamperfection killed night 4 as the Centaur Warrunner! sicklucker killed night 4 as the Bloodseeker! Yet people who scumread me never died. | ||
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On October 20 2016 12:46 Bill Murray wrote: ok i just read through page 18 and here we are with exo outting a character with healing / protection spells 1) this doesnt mean exo is mafia 2) this doesnt mean waveofshadow is town the way this game works, mafia will definitely have healing/protection abilities on their support dazzles overpowered ass would fit mafia support perfectly to be honest ##Vote: WaveofShadow Pushing mafia agenda: On October 20 2016 14:15 Bill Murray wrote: im kind of curious about ritoky but that might just be off and i could be wrong. just a gut feeling something is wrong with one or two posts he made. one of him or hopeless will prob be maf - i dont think both are maf given their interactions. even i could be wrong ..i dont think i am yeah no WoS is probably scum; don't be conflicted you have a good case because it's exactly what i was thinking i just couldnt put it to words the way you did what, where?! i dont think hes defending him so much as hes attacking your credibility dont sweat it you came to a good conclusion this scramble from hopeless based on that feels like maf have coached WoS to not piss the bed - like he wanted to have soft claimed dazzle to win a healer on healer lynch later on in the game which can secure a win THIS feels like potential deflecting off of that claim - a WoS lynch will get a ton of information out there ... if he flips red im going to be pushing for hopeless I also HATE hopeless claim that he just made ... fishier than ritoky x10 so if you held a gun to my head id vote out WoS and hopeless at this point. if im wrong and hopeless is town ritoky is prob maf. you dont have to like me , like how i play, or even like dota (lol) but regardless of how illogical this sounds im right [usually] Pushing mafia agenda: On October 20 2016 14:27 Bill Murray wrote: also dandelion is town Who thought both Koshi and Lunatic were town? Nobody but this guy: On October 21 2016 08:20 Bill Murray wrote: I like lunatic man so far I think he's town... his posts are attacking koshi. I am going to look into him next as well . Phone posting so hard to consolidate sorry if I'm gonna be spamming but I want to contribute On October 21 2016 08:25 Bill Murray wrote: Koshi is coming across as genuine to me. I don't think hes mafia . Pretty strong town read on him actually so I think lunatics looking in the wrong direction | ||
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On October 21 2016 08:27 Bill Murray wrote: Rels , and tictock are just avoiding mod kills. Hate hate hate players who play that way d1. Let's scum slip into d2 a la foolishness style mafia play [the diamond league player who helps out in mafia forums here] Discrediting town: On October 21 2016 08:31 Bill Murray wrote: yeah no. ##vote holyflare your style is off from Your town play . Even if you're town you're going to be disruptive. You're not town tho so toodles Literally dafuq: On October 21 2016 08:37 Bill Murray wrote: Skynx is either town or the mafia calling the shots Pushing mafia agenda: On October 21 2016 10:20 Bill Murray wrote: Tictock maf On October 21 2016 10:23 Bill Murray wrote: Tictock doesn't post like this as town Pushing mafia agenda: On October 21 2016 10:30 Bill Murray wrote: Ok wave and exo u all are both town imo what r we gonna go with ? I like ur idea wave on stacking attacks ... I already sent mine in on tictock but I want to change it now Pushing mafia agenda: On October 21 2016 14:07 Bill Murray wrote: Exo and wave are both town so we three should work together by the way . Exo ur right day 1 is tough for town . Wave isn't trying to be an ass hole to you though he's just trying to get you to see the light. It's just a misunderstanding.. he's red haired I mean I guess he's Irish and I'm part Welsh so I know that when we get caught doing something even if we have non scummy intentions we kinda break down and just freeze up ... the dazzle thing idk why he did it but my gut is telling me that concentrating on who is what hero is just going to let scum hide behind game mechanics and engineering which isn't good doe | ||
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On October 24 2016 05:52 Bill Murray wrote: I don't even know why everyone was voting vivax How was this legit in his mind?: Not sure what this is about but did BM ask a heal? Isn't he now claiming he can heal himself during day? Why isn't he healing here?: On October 25 2016 08:28 Bill Murray wrote: Should I attack vivax or sick cause I'm leaning towArds sick So he can heal/shield and do some sort of check? On October 25 2016 08:48 Bill Murray wrote: Koshi hit artanis for 5 dmg Pushing mafia agenda: On October 25 2016 08:56 Bill Murray wrote: So hopeless hasn't moved much. I bet he's casting abilities. Could easily have been the scum who cast the no lynch Pushing mafia agenda: | ||
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On October 25 2016 09:00 Bill Murray wrote: Scum slip on that <for anyone that cares> plus I'm dire and I'm town On October 25 2016 09:01 Bill Murray wrote: Not that radiant dire matters bUT that's the point his flippant for anyone that cares screams scum to me Shows he is reading and thinking about what others think, mafia treat: On October 25 2016 10:21 Bill Murray wrote: People's reads are all over the place this game Short end of stick with 3 confirmed abilities?: On October 25 2016 12:28 Bill Murray wrote: lets talk about whos scum not whether or not this game is good or not i personally enjoy games with a lot of abilities but its all good... seems i got the short end of the stick but oh well Pushing mafia agenda: On October 26 2016 15:27 Bill Murray wrote: oh shut up he was obviously going to be lynched and i dont trust youre not scum with that post restriction ability The following chain does not make sense, there are only 3 posts between these 2 and 1 was that one↑: 1) he tells sicklucker not to give away somebody his hp (= reads sicklucker town) 2) attacked sicklucker that night On October 26 2016 12:45 Bill Murray wrote: So I attacked sick lucker last night. I meant to switch it and forgot. And no acrofales I don't keep forgetting to send my action in I just do it late like 5:04 a couple times. Even yesterday I meant to switch my action off sicklucker to vivax but where we are lynching him idk idk Pushing mafia agenda: On October 26 2016 15:27 Bill Murray wrote: oh shut up he was obviously going to be lynched and i dont trust youre not scum with that post restriction ability | ||
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On October 26 2016 15:29 Bill Murray wrote: i feel like im missing something important in this game Pushing mafia agenda: On October 26 2016 17:03 Bill Murray wrote: i like exo's ts read a lot 4th spell, probably passive on basic attacks?: On October 29 2016 13:01 Bill Murray wrote: my attacks make the person i attack do 50% less damage that same phase Excuses + not true at all from seeing his filter: On October 29 2016 13:12 Bill Murray wrote: granted the game is 230 pages long and ive only read like 65 of them (not counting filter diving) Pushing mafia agenda + doesnt make sense with what he said eariler: On October 29 2016 13:24 Bill Murray wrote: i dont trust wave Pushing mafia agenda: On October 29 2016 13:48 Bill Murray wrote: i feel like WoS is doing a fake check to end the game for maf win The guy has been pushing mafia agenda the entire game unpunished. Does a play with his spells and gets a free townread... Has anybody actually received heals btw? Because abbaddon can't heal himself, yet BM claims to heal himself during days. Fake claim so he can do damage during EoD? | ||
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Has anybody actually received heals btw? Because abbaddon can't heal himself, yet BM claims to heal himself during days. Fake claim so he can do damage during EoD? This is so good. Abaddon death coil can heal allies and damage enemies while hurting himself, but can never heal himself. Yet he claims he can heal himself. Abaddon + Omni works in that aspect. | ||
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1) Just the atmosphere there was when I was under fire D1, nobody defended me, I was alone, and then even with my double lynch people kept attacking me, some of them mafia, some of them town. That never happens to a townie. 2) People that townread me died, people that did damage to me survived. Best example is btdt and Tubesock. btdt died the second he townread me. 3) Double lynch. + it being revealed in Artanis his role. If it was secret and mafia, it wouldn't just fucking show up in the Viper role PM. But it literally balances the Night stalker ulti. Nothing else in this game does. And I claimed my double lynch from D1/N1..... 4) Activity went up the longer we played. Always other way around when I am mafia. 5) My reads being good but also not that good. I also always had a full view on the game, while as mafia I always just scumread 1-2 people and try to make it as far as I can. Read my previous games. 6) I never bus hard. NEVER, not once in the past 3 times I rolled mafia. How I pushed Vivax, Skynx and Exo. I always try to win with as many mafia left alive. Again, read my previous games. And I also didn't push them to get cred btw, they were in my PoE pool, especially ExO was like on/off and I still said we should kill him. As mafia I always push that idea away with my towncred. That's how I play mafia, I gain towncred and push mafia agenda. I didn't do that here at all. Like... I am never mafia this game. I looked too mehish the entire game while still solving it pretty well. | ||
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1) Just the atmosphere there was when I was under fire D1, nobody defended me, I was alone, and then even with my double lynch people kept attacking me, some of them mafia, some of them town. That never happens unless you are a townie. | ||
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If you lynch me this is pretty ridiculous. | ||
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I never did "x". While as mafia I do nothing else to try and do x as many times I can. | ||
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1) Pushed mafia agenda the entire game. 2) Something happened during night that "confirms" him town. 3) Sheeps strong townie onto other townie and tries to bind his fate/allignment to that generally townread townie. That is how mafia plays. | ||
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BM his posts around Skynx/Exo are typical mafia on mafia. | ||
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His posts about ExO and skynx are typical mafia/mafia. Look at my quotes. He pushed mafia agenda in 30% of his posts. Again look quotes. Also his recent posts: On November 05 2016 15:11 Bill Murray wrote: Tubesock and ritoky just both chilling not talking Koshi didn't even defend himself when he's about to be lynched and instead pushes me with himself being the only vote on me I'm actually starting to think we might be wrong about this and I'm so bad at town that means he's probably maf because I would fuck it up Doesn't make sense at all. How can "we" (= WoS and BM) be wrong about the game and I still be mafia? That's a contradiction but it works for him because he can keep his vote on me. On November 05 2016 15:16 Bill Murray wrote: I'm thinking koshi killed artanis last night. Looks like he was worried about his damage Also this is some retarded justification to keep his vote on me. Artanis claimed to have 5 hp left after EoD and ritoky claimed to have hit Artanis for at least 30. So why did I exactly kill Artanis? And how does he know his shield didn't work. etc etc. The guy is just bullshitting. | ||
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On November 04 2016 18:37 Koshi wrote: There are so many reasons why I can't be mafia this game. 1) Just the atmosphere there was when I was under fire D1, nobody defended me, I was alone, and then even with my double lynch people kept attacking me, some of them mafia, some of them town. That never happens to a townie. 2) People that townread me died, people that did damage to me survived. Best example is btdt and Tubesock. btdt died the second he townread me. 3) Double lynch. + it being revealed in Artanis his role. If it was secret and mafia, it wouldn't just fucking show up in the Viper role PM. But it literally balances the Night stalker ulti. Nothing else in this game does. And I claimed my double lynch from D1/N1..... 4) Activity went up the longer we played. Always other way around when I am mafia. 5) My reads being good but also not that good. I also always had a full view on the game, while as mafia I always just scumread 1-2 people and try to make it as far as I can. Read my previous games. 6) I never bus hard. NEVER, not once in the past 3 times I rolled mafia. How I pushed Vivax, Skynx and Exo. I always try to win with as many mafia left alive. Again, read my previous games. And I also didn't push them to get cred btw, they were in my PoE pool, especially ExO was like on/off and I still said we should kill him. As mafia I always push that idea away with my towncred. That's how I play mafia, I gain towncred and push mafia agenda. I didn't do that here at all. Like... I am never mafia this game. I looked too mehish the entire game while still solving it pretty well. | ||
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##vote TS Fine. Don't think you would be so mad as mafia atm. | ||
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There are some quotes I think are mafia on mafia. | ||
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On November 06 2016 04:42 Bill Murray wrote: Koshi you're legion commander right Yes. | ||
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On November 06 2016 05:42 ritoky wrote: koshi, what was your ult? Duel. I explained it before. | ||
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On November 06 2016 05:29 Tubesock wrote: Still thinking about it. May vote BM. He's the least town I guess. I don't really think Koshi is mafia anymore. On November 06 2016 05:41 Tubesock wrote: I'll vote Koshi. yolo. Ok then. Voting town to save yourself while you scumread BM. Why? | ||
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On November 06 2016 05:48 ritoky wrote: i am just trying to figure out what part of legion commander = double lynch. i can understand the self heal, but i don't see anything that would translate to double lynch in my mind.....i see a counter-attack The duel is announced to the 2 people in the duel. Damage is based on the amount of votes they get. | ||
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On November 06 2016 05:50 Bill Murray wrote: You still have it right ? Well don't use it on me I'm town man I swear to God No I used it on Lunatic??? That is why he died. | ||
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So where is Tube? He just votes a townread 15 minutes before deadline and fucks off? | ||
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On November 06 2016 05:51 Bill Murray wrote: Yeah I don't think you are ... I keep flip flopping on you but when I read beentheredonethat read on you it convinced me you are town which is why I've been really wanting you to unvote me and you finally did so I'm happy but I'm still worried because 9dfk who mafia is btdt townread me before he died btw. | ||
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ah ok. Thought you were talking about his initial read and that I completely play the opposite last days. | ||
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On November 06 2016 05:57 ritoky wrote: i just have a hard time seeing tube as mafia. How can you see me as mafia? | ||
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On November 06 2016 05:58 ritoky wrote: cuz omgus, you kept pushing me when i felt it was impossible for me to be anything but town Hmm I thought there had to be 3p dayvig. Don't think I said you were mafia xcept on Day 3. | ||
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On November 06 2016 06:11 Lunaticman wrote: OMG GG. KOSHI I KNEW IT YOU BEAUTIFUL BASTAD :D you were annoying. | ||
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On November 06 2016 06:12 Calix wrote: Man, I am impressed at how you managed to almost pull this one off despite mafia fatigue. Thx. The mafia fatigue is real though. Last 5 months only mafia. Pff. | ||
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On November 06 2016 06:27 Lunaticman wrote: Your harcore bussing was pretty cool though. Well. Exo was left with 5 hp after getting return damage from iamp. He was dead in the water after sicklucker send in his attack so I felt I had to do it. Didn't bus Skynx or Dandel at all. | ||
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On November 06 2016 06:37 ritoky wrote: ↑+1 | ||
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On November 06 2016 06:49 ExO_ wrote: Going from 80/80 HP to 2/80 in one night really sucked :/ +1. That lost us the advantage and it was completely out of your control | ||
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