• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:05
CET 02:05
KST 10:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy5ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises0Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool42Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block
Tourneys
World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Soulkey's decision to leave C9 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ JaeDong's form before ASL [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos
Tourneys
ASL Season 21 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group A [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
U4GM Tips Counter Enemy Gadgets Fast in Black Ops rsvsr How to Keep Reward Chains Rolling in Monopol u4gm What to Do First in MLB The Show 26 Spring
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3481 users

[M][N] Murder on the Cruise Trip Mafia - Page 36

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 34 35 36 37 38 182 Next
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 01:00 GMT
#701
On October 05 2016 09:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.

What are those reasons?


Complacency

Acting too nice

Making closed posts ie not open for discussion

(Didn't happen this game yet, but his actions and reads were all self-centered)

Reads not conclusive

His stances are late (Not really here. Different context)

Safe reads
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 01:01 GMT
#702
On October 05 2016 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm filtering because I don't want to read through the Calix/NU posts because I'm pretty confident they're both town.


You're missing out on certain interactions then.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 05 2016 01:22 GMT
#703
On October 05 2016 10:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm filtering because I don't want to read through the Calix/NU posts because I'm pretty confident they're both town.


You're missing out on certain interactions then.

I think the same way honestly, it was only useful in the sense that it gave town reads.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 05 2016 01:23 GMT
#704
On October 05 2016 10:00 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 09:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.

What are those reasons?


Complacency

Acting too nice

Making closed posts ie not open for discussion

(Didn't happen this game yet, but his actions and reads were all self-centered)

Reads not conclusive

His stances are late (Not really here. Different context)

Safe reads

So now what is your read on him?
No gg, No skill.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 01:41 GMT
#705
On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.


Interpret this the way you like.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 05 2016 01:45 GMT
#706
On October 05 2016 10:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.


Interpret this the way you like.

No dude, I want you to give a town read or scum read.
No gg, No skill.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 01:52 GMT
#707
On October 05 2016 10:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.


Interpret this the way you like.

That is all you'll get.

I assume you have reads on the most active players as well. Care to share them?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 05 2016 01:53 GMT
#708
On October 05 2016 10:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 10:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.


Interpret this the way you like.

That is all you'll get.

I assume you have reads on the most active players as well. Care to share them?

Marv town, calix town, you town, I'm town
No gg, No skill.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 02:01 GMT
#709
On October 05 2016 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 10:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.


Interpret this the way you like.

No dude, I want you to give a town read or scum read.

Funny considering you have not pronounced yourself on that matter.

I did not see you commenting on the HF, DDD, nor Grack.

Also, have you done your military service? And why would the government make it mandatory when the country has no threatening enemy?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 05 2016 02:04 GMT
#710
On October 05 2016 11:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 05 2016 10:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.


Interpret this the way you like.

No dude, I want you to give a town read or scum read.

Funny considering you have not pronounced yourself on that matter.

I did not see you commenting on the HF, DDD, nor Grack.

Also, have you done your military service? And why would the government make it mandatory when the country has no threatening enemy?

I think damdred pretty null for me.
Grack scummy, hf is also scummy. hes weirdly defensive and his tone is a bit off.

Im in the middle of it right now lol. It's mandatory because any country could just invade, Singapore has quite a lot of value in terms of its location + it's a mainly Chinese country in the middle of Malay countries. So it's more for deterrence now.
No gg, No skill.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 02:16 GMT
#711
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 11:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 11:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 10:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.[/QUOTE]

Interpret this the way you like.[/QUOTE]
No dude, I want you to give a town read or scum read.
[/QUOTE]
Funny considering you have not pronounced yourself on that matter.

I did not see you commenting on the HF, DDD, nor Grack.

Also, have you done your military service? And why would the government make it mandatory when the country has no threatening enemy?[/QUOTE]
I think damdred pretty null for me.

Huzzah! See, you cannot decide whether he is town or scum either. [QUOTE]On October 05 2016 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 10:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.[/QUOTE]

Interpret this the way you like.[/QUOTE]
No dude, I want you to give a town read or scum read.
[/QUOTE]
[quote]
Grack scummy, hf is also scummy. hes weirdly defensive and his tone is a bit off. [/quote]

Exactly.

Dunno about Grack. He's been pretty \0 so far. What makes you think he is scummy?

[quote]Im in the middle of it right now lol. It's mandatory because any country could just invade, Singapore has quite a lot of value in terms of its location + it's a mainly Chinese country in the middle of Malay countries. So it's more for deterrence now.
[/QUOTE]

I guess that makes sense, especially historically.

Although if any country wanted to invade Singapore, a 5 million people city/country, I guess they would have already done it by now. You almost have more chance of fending off assailants with Durian's smell than with manpower, lol.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 05 2016 02:18 GMT
#712
On October 05 2016 06:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 06:39 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 05 2016 05:34 Holyflare wrote:
There's simply no way anyone can think Superbia is town, he put out reads and is simply asked to explain them and can't and has done shit all but whine.

That post was outrageously tmi.

I think Superbia is town.


Yes and that is why I am voting batsnacks.

*clap clap*

I really don't get this post from hf. He still thinks superbia might be scum but he shuts down NU. It's just really confusing man pls explain
No gg, No skill.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 02:19 GMT
#713
Oh, boy, that was ugly. "EBWOP":

I think damdred pretty null for me.


Huzzah! See, you cannot decide whether he is town or scum either.
On October 05 2016 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
No dude, I want you to give a town read or scum read.


Grack scummy, hf is also scummy. hes weirdly defensive and his tone is a bit off.


Exactly.

Dunno about Grack. He's been pretty \0 so far. What makes you think he is scummy?

Im in the middle of it right now lol. It's mandatory because any country could just invade, Singapore has quite a lot of value in terms of its location + it's a mainly Chinese country in the middle of Malay countries. So it's more for deterrence now.


I guess that makes sense, especially historically.

Although if any country wanted to invade Singapore, a 5 million people city/country, I guess they would have already done it by now. You almost have more chance of fending off assailants with Durian's smell than with manpower, lol.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 05 2016 02:19 GMT
#714
On October 05 2016 06:49 Holyflare wrote:
There's nothing wrong with either of those "cases", both based on legit good points, both dropped when something more pressing and evident comes to light.

It's called playing mafia, you should try it bro.

Also hf doesn't have much emotional attachment to his pushes, that's weird.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 05 2016 02:21 GMT
#715
On October 05 2016 11:19 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Oh, boy, that was ugly. "EBWOP":

Show nested quote +
I think damdred pretty null for me.


Huzzah! See, you cannot decide whether he is town or scum either.
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
No dude, I want you to give a town read or scum read.

Show nested quote +

Grack scummy, hf is also scummy. hes weirdly defensive and his tone is a bit off.


Exactly.

Dunno about Grack. He's been pretty \0 so far. What makes you think he is scummy?

Show nested quote +
Im in the middle of it right now lol. It's mandatory because any country could just invade, Singapore has quite a lot of value in terms of its location + it's a mainly Chinese country in the middle of Malay countries. So it's more for deterrence now.


I guess that makes sense, especially historically.

Although if any country wanted to invade Singapore, a 5 million people city/country, I guess they would have already done it by now. You almost have more chance of fending off assailants with Durian's smell than with manpower, lol.

Same reason as koshi. Enough time to come and fluff but not enough time or interest to affect the game.

Well the idea is that we will do an extreme amount of damage before they can invade. But diplomacy and all that shit is very impt
No gg, No skill.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 02:22 GMT
#716
On October 05 2016 11:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 06:49 Holyflare wrote:
There's nothing wrong with either of those "cases", both based on legit good points, both dropped when something more pressing and evident comes to light.

It's called playing mafia, you should try it bro.

Also hf doesn't have much emotional attachment to his pushes, that's weird.


He's scum. That simple.

Heading off. May not be able to be online at EoD.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 02:23 GMT
#717
Also, I like Oats' posts. Town-read for me.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
October 05 2016 02:42 GMT
#718
I ended up watching the VP debate instead.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 05 2016 02:47 GMT
#719
On October 05 2016 11:42 Grackaroni wrote:
I ended up watching the VP debate instead.
So who's scum?
No gg, No skill.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
October 05 2016 02:58 GMT
#720
What do you mean when you say that HF is not emotionally attached to his pushes? Do you mean not following up on Calix or something else that I'm missing?
Prev 1 34 35 36 37 38 182 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 55m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft392
SpeCial 181
Nina 90
RuFF_SC2 89
CosmosSc2 37
WinterStarcraft30
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 6310
Artosis 732
Stork 134
ggaemo 76
NaDa 23
LancerX 22
ajuk12(nOOB) 17
Terrorterran 12
Dota 2
monkeys_forever744
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
taco 646
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox447
C9.Mang0343
AZ_Axe159
Liquid`Ken18
Other Games
summit1g9973
Maynarde156
ToD140
Trikslyr61
UpATreeSC32
JuggernautJason9
Day[9].tv6
deth5
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1061
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream65
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 177
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 7
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra1180
• Day9tv6
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
8h 55m
Afreeca Starleague
8h 55m
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
1d 7h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 8h
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
KCM Race Survival
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Platinum Heroes Events
4 days
BSL
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-23
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.