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On October 05 2016 06:42 Calix wrote:
Dude, I'm being serious. Don't clog up the chat with bullshit.
HF exaggerating shit...what would you call his horrendous TT push in HM then? lol
No, they are very distinct pushes. When I look at HM3 and this game, I see two very different HF. I may (and should) elaborate later if I have the time to do so. I will have to go radio silent soon for probably the remainder of D1.
I suggest you reread his cases on you and Super.
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On October 05 2016 06:45 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 06:39 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 05 2016 05:34 Holyflare wrote:
There's simply no way anyone can think Superbia is town, he put out reads and is simply asked to explain them and can't and has done shit all but whine.
That post was outrageously tmi. I think Superbia is town. Yes and that is why I am voting batsnacks. *clap clap*
"There's simply no way anyone can think Superbia is town"
Yet you agree with me that Superbia is town? Big contradiction. Nowhere have you let hints of your read progression on SUper before now.
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There's nothing wrong with either of those "cases", both based on legit good points, both dropped when something more pressing and evident comes to light.
It's called playing mafia, you should try it bro.
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On October 05 2016 06:50 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Batsnacks is also town.
uwotm8
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No, I find it hard to believe Superbia is town and there's no evidence to suggest he is town AT ALL.
Batsnacks's post was ridiculously scummy.
If I have anything of a town read on Superbia it's directly related to batsnacks and Superbia's reactions afterwards.
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On October 05 2016 06:49 Holyflare wrote:
There's nothing wrong with either of those "cases", both based on legit good points, both dropped when something more pressing and evident comes to light.
It's called playing mafia, you should try it bro.
Would like to. Only I rolled town.
What has "dropped when something more pressing and evident comes to light" have to do with the legitimacy/validity of your "cases"?
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It's quite simple really, people do less mafia looking things and other people do more mafia looking things.
Genius I know.
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I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.
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On October 05 2016 06:50 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Batsnacks is also town.
Explain plz.
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On October 05 2016 06:58 Holyflare wrote:Explain plz.
He's fucking hilarious.
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I was hoping for a more incisive counterargument to batsnacks being scum.
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On October 05 2016 06:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I don't like Damdred's posts and would scum-read him for it, but I not trust this read myself. It's basically based on the same arguments I scum-read him HM3 (in which he was town), so I guess his town meta could just appear scummy to me.
You just do not have good taste then since even calix town reads me.
Maybe I'm wrong about NU being town I'm unsure now based on him reading the game opposite how he would idk.
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On October 05 2016 07:06 Calix wrote:
I was hoping for a more incisive counterargument to batsnacks being scum.
Me too. I re-read his filter and only found 3-4 posts I liked/felt a town tone. He had just as many, if not more, scummy posts. I do not know if he is town anymore.
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On October 05 2016 05:58 batsnacks wrote:I was just thinking jat can be mafia though. There were some moments, one where Carix was yelling at super, where he's maybe been egging bad town behavior. Like this is one Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 05:06 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 05:05 Calix wrote:
You are either being incredibly childish or you're scum throwing a temper tantrum.
Either way, it can be fixed with a rope. Top post. That's not the first one I just don't want to find the rest.
I don't like that his only expressed scum-read is worded like this (bold). Other than that "can be mafia", the dude has no scum-read.
I like how he calls Calix "Carix" though.
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On October 05 2016 03:48 batsnacks wrote:
I've been trying to find some conversation about things I've noticed but haven't found much. Most of the responses to my posts have been from Calix who imo is hard to talk to due to the defensive and abrasive tone they're using constantly. Not really conducive to fleshing things out.
This post feels genuine and really makes me think BS (Funny initials) is town.
On October 05 2016 05:30 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 05:13 Damdred wrote:
@Batsnack how am I just trying to jump on people who are gathering steam when u was one of the firsts to scum read you essentially? Which you are still super sideline atm not even really interested in making conclusions on super vs everyone atm? I think superbia is frustrated town would seem consistent with his play the rest of today. He threw out HF and Palmar as names initially and didn't want to explain why for fear of critical people, critical people end up barking at him anyway which is totally his fault but his reactions check out.I thought marv and superbia were equally obtuse to each other earlier marv was just better at spinning it and it got exacerbated by the fact that superbia was being difficult prior.
This post mirrors one of the reasons why I think Superbia is town.
Following are posts which I found town because of the tone and the legitimacy of the original points BS makes. (In the Calix-BS, Super-BS, DDD-BS interactions)
On October 04 2016 21:41 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 21:07 Calix wrote:On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote:
This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol. If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read. So you're arguing that I am pushing a read onto someone who I claim has obvious town/ scum meta. Let's just indulge in this delusion and pretend that I'm scum and let's assume that you're town...since this push makes no sense for two of the scum to do. I decide to make a lame push on you based on the question. People start to town-read you for your question. I pop in and double down on my push, thus drawing a shit-load of attention to myself. Even if I mislynched you, I would look exceptionally bad for mislynching someone that I claim has "obvious town/ scum meta" So what exactly does scum!Calix get out of doing this, exactly? Inquiring minds want to know. Weirdly defensive post I keep thinking there should be enough activity from Calix by now to have some opinion of their alignment but I'm having trouble coming up with anything. Most of calix's contributions are game mechanics inspired I could see them coming from any angle or alignment. And there are a couple of these "at least we're talking about something I'm okay with that" statements from Calix that show an awareness that they're "contributing" to the game. Like maybe Mafia Calix is intentionally choosing to talk about things that are easy to fake perspectives on.
I was thinking that the Calix-NU exchange should feel town-town if they are both town and familiar with each other , and I'm getting town vibes from NU not from Calix though they're null.
On October 05 2016 04:09 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 03:54 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 03:48 batsnacks wrote:
I've been trying to find some conversation about things I've noticed but haven't found much. Most of the responses to my posts have been from Calix who imo is hard to talk to due to the defensive and abrasive tone they're using constantly. Not really conducive to fleshing things out. I laugh at the idea of me intimidating you so much with my tone that you don't even want to respond to me. Kindly grow a pair, respond to my points against you, and take some stances plz. your points against me are okay you just have my intentions wrong. I haven't taken many hard stances because there haven't been many happens in the game i feel strongly about, thus trying to talk to people about stuff I notice.
On October 05 2016 04:13 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 04:06 Calix wrote:
Okay, so you're claiming that I am self-aware of the fact that people were scum-reading me. I don't see how this means anything.
I changed my mind primarily because HF pointed out that Koshi was backing up NU.
Furthermore, that's not what he was arguing - he stated that neither of us CARED about how the thread perceived us.
I'm not 'looking' like I'm moving the game forward. It bloody well did, regardless of how accurate my accusations were. The awareness made me believe you cared you're also using a pretty defensive tone and you're making a lot of posts that don't really concern you about yourself personally e.g. NU explaining to you that a post of mine that was about HF actually wasn't against you On October 05 2016 04:31 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 04:17 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 04:09 batsnacks wrote:On October 05 2016 03:54 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 03:48 batsnacks wrote:
I've been trying to find some conversation about things I've noticed but haven't found much. Most of the responses to my posts have been from Calix who imo is hard to talk to due to the defensive and abrasive tone they're using constantly. Not really conducive to fleshing things out. I laugh at the idea of me intimidating you so much with my tone that you don't even want to respond to me. Kindly grow a pair, respond to my points against you, and take some stances plz. your points against me are okay you just have my intentions wrong. I haven't taken many hard stances because there haven't been many happens in the game i feel strongly about, thus trying to talk to people about stuff I notice. If that's the case, why haven't you tried harder to push the few points that you do have? You just dropped some fantastical theories including gems such as NU and myself hard-core distancing ourselves. You show zero conviction in what you say which strikes me as un-town-like. On October 05 2016 04:13 batsnacks wrote:On October 05 2016 04:06 Calix wrote:
Okay, so you're claiming that I am self-aware of the fact that people were scum-reading me. I don't see how this means anything.
I changed my mind primarily because HF pointed out that Koshi was backing up NU.
Furthermore, that's not what he was arguing - he stated that neither of us CARED about how the thread perceived us.
I'm not 'looking' like I'm moving the game forward. It bloody well did, regardless of how accurate my accusations were. The awareness made me believe you cared you're also using a pretty defensive tone and you're making a lot of posts that don't really concern you about yourself personally e.g. NU explaining to you that a post of mine that was about HF actually wasn't against you Explain how being defensive is a scum tell. I explicitly stated that I was inquiring about the quotes you were using as I was aware that you were referring to HF. You couldn't have missed that as I made that comment right after NU pointed this out. Listen, unless someone else is getting anything useful out of this dumb shit fight I'm just going to ignore you because I feel like I'm wasting my time. I didn't say you did anything scummy I don't think you're Mafia, I said your similarly dumb argument with NU is NAI. That your exchange with NU seemed null vs town to me, I don't think it is outrageous for me to think this as any alignment. Your case on me is fine, I'll take harder stances on stuff if stuff comes up, if not I can live with you being right about me for now.
On October 05 2016 05:10 batsnacks wrote:
Hey off work I got to a computer for a bit Damdred can we talk about your read on me. I considered what you said some more and I don't know yet if I believe you believe I'm the best lynch. I'm worried you could just be trying to jump on people that you think are gathering steam.
Finally, this:
On October 04 2016 08:50 batsnacks wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lMcX6I0.gif)
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I am unsure how I feel about the guy. Logic tells me he's null for not having any scum-reads (and his only one being based on a questionable tell) while gut tells me he's town for his tone.
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On October 04 2016 19:32 Calix wrote:
And of course everyone decides to go into hibernation when I pop online. Figures.
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Right now for town I think maybe
-marvellosity - early push on palmar was a good contribution
-oatsmaster - gut
-superbia - same
-NU - same
I could try to elaborate on the last three if they're of particular interest to anyone
-holyflare, "not particularly shit flingy" I still like that lol. Maybe leaning town because several pretty reasonable pushes.
haven't said enough to have an opinion one way or the other
-koshi
-stutters
Could be either town or mafia as played
-palmar, marv said palmar was excited to play with him palmar hasn't shown any indications of this since the game began though they're not really interacting with each other. Palmar made a good, unique observation about one of oats' posts though.
Calix is anti town and generally unpleasant. There have been a lot of useless arguments and plays surrounding this player that mafia could easily influence, a policy lynch would be progress for town.
Everyone else there's one or more small thing that's making me think they could be mafia
-I read damdred's all star game and damdred's special way of asking questions early on seems different, part of it is coming in so late. Also was really quick to arrive at conclusions I disagree with. I haven't seen damdred as mafia in years but there could be an agenda here.
-grackaroni is under the radar pretty good and seems to be happy with where he's at.
-jat is encouraging anti-town play, could be pushing lines of thought that hurt town intentionally. Same as damdred I haven't seen jat as mafia in years but there could be an agenda here.
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Please expand on your DDD and JAT reads. Try not using meta if you can.
Why is your Palmar read based pretty much solely on what Marv said about him?
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