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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 19:17 GMT
#501
On October 05 2016 04:09 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 03:54 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 03:48 batsnacks wrote:
I've been trying to find some conversation about things I've noticed but haven't found much. Most of the responses to my posts have been from Calix who imo is hard to talk to due to the defensive and abrasive tone they're using constantly. Not really conducive to fleshing things out.


I laugh at the idea of me intimidating you so much with my tone that you don't even want to respond to me.

Kindly grow a pair, respond to my points against you, and take some stances plz.

your points against me are okay you just have my intentions wrong. I haven't taken many hard stances because there haven't been many happens in the game i feel strongly about, thus trying to talk to people about stuff I notice.



If that's the case, why haven't you tried harder to push the few points that you do have? You just dropped some fantastical theories including gems such as NU and myself hard-core distancing ourselves. You show zero conviction in what you say which strikes me as un-town-like.

On October 05 2016 04:13 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 04:06 Calix wrote:
Okay, so you're claiming that I am self-aware of the fact that people were scum-reading me. I don't see how this means anything.

I changed my mind primarily because HF pointed out that Koshi was backing up NU.

Furthermore, that's not what he was arguing - he stated that neither of us CARED about how the thread perceived us.

I'm not 'looking' like I'm moving the game forward. It bloody well did, regardless of how accurate my accusations were.

The awareness made me believe you cared you're also using a pretty defensive tone and you're making a lot of posts that don't really concern you about yourself personally e.g. NU explaining to you that a post of mine that was about HF actually wasn't against you



Explain how being defensive is a scum tell.

I explicitly stated that I was inquiring about the quotes you were using as I was aware that you were referring to HF. You couldn't have missed that as I made that comment right after NU pointed this out.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 04 2016 19:23 GMT
#502
Why do people think I'm scummy?
Minimal effort.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 19:30 GMT
#503
On October 05 2016 04:23 Superbia wrote:
Why do people think I'm scummy?


You only pop in when people summon you. Looking at what you're contributed without someone poking you up the arse with a stick, I'm not impressed.

On October 04 2016 20:38 Superbia wrote:
General complaint:

I agree that this PM shit is really really fucking dumb.

The fact that people are already drawing conclusions based on someone who claims he can be mod confirmed is also really fucking dumb. Like conjecture regarding PMs is already happening.

This why you never bring this shit up. You're either soft claiming a role or you're really talking about again-the-rules shit like an absolute dumb ass. Either way it's fucking dumb because people are now talking about PMs and inferring based on it.

I wanted a nice, high-level game. Not PM garbage.

Thx4listening.


This, for example, is out-of-place and you go nowhere with it. It reminds me of a post that Vivax made in HM 3.0 where he popped in to whine about XYZ but went nowhere with it and ended up contradicting himself.

This isn't as egregious a post, but you're whining about people crapping up the game and yet you do NOTHING to fix the game state so the logic holds.

You did the "I have good contributions which I'll share later and get people to prod me for" shtick which makes little sense for town to do when they would just post the bloody thoughts they had.

This is just from skimming your filter. It's incredibly dismal play.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 04 2016 19:31 GMT
#504
On October 05 2016 04:17 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 04:09 batsnacks wrote:
On October 05 2016 03:54 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 03:48 batsnacks wrote:
I've been trying to find some conversation about things I've noticed but haven't found much. Most of the responses to my posts have been from Calix who imo is hard to talk to due to the defensive and abrasive tone they're using constantly. Not really conducive to fleshing things out.


I laugh at the idea of me intimidating you so much with my tone that you don't even want to respond to me.

Kindly grow a pair, respond to my points against you, and take some stances plz.

your points against me are okay you just have my intentions wrong. I haven't taken many hard stances because there haven't been many happens in the game i feel strongly about, thus trying to talk to people about stuff I notice.



If that's the case, why haven't you tried harder to push the few points that you do have? You just dropped some fantastical theories including gems such as NU and myself hard-core distancing ourselves. You show zero conviction in what you say which strikes me as un-town-like.

Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 04:13 batsnacks wrote:
On October 05 2016 04:06 Calix wrote:
Okay, so you're claiming that I am self-aware of the fact that people were scum-reading me. I don't see how this means anything.

I changed my mind primarily because HF pointed out that Koshi was backing up NU.

Furthermore, that's not what he was arguing - he stated that neither of us CARED about how the thread perceived us.

I'm not 'looking' like I'm moving the game forward. It bloody well did, regardless of how accurate my accusations were.

The awareness made me believe you cared you're also using a pretty defensive tone and you're making a lot of posts that don't really concern you about yourself personally e.g. NU explaining to you that a post of mine that was about HF actually wasn't against you



Explain how being defensive is a scum tell.

I explicitly stated that I was inquiring about the quotes you were using as I was aware that you were referring to HF. You couldn't have missed that as I made that comment right after NU pointed this out.

Listen, unless someone else is getting anything useful out of this dumb shit fight I'm just going to ignore you because I feel like I'm wasting my time. I didn't say you did anything scummy I don't think you're Mafia, I said your similarly dumb argument with NU is NAI. That your exchange with NU seemed null vs town to me, I don't think it is outrageous for me to think this as any alignment.

Your case on me is fine, I'll take harder stances on stuff if stuff comes up, if not I can live with you being right about me for now.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 04 2016 19:32 GMT
#505
*sniggers from sidelines*
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 04 2016 19:32 GMT
#506
It annoyed me. Also I said I was going to lurk so of course I'm going to get summoned. x;
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 04 2016 19:34 GMT
#507
Also it's literally a general complaint. Meh.
Minimal effort.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 19:34 GMT
#508
I really do like how dismissive the two people I'm pushing are being, lol.

I'm being incredibly tame and polite here but you'd think that I called them a bunch of twats from how they're reacting.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 04 2016 19:35 GMT
#509
I'm kind of annoyed with people but I know if I'm too defensive I'll be called scum.
Minimal effort.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 04 2016 19:36 GMT
#510
On October 05 2016 04:34 Calix wrote:
I really do like how dismissive the two people I'm pushing are being, lol.

I'm being incredibly tame and polite here but you'd think that I called them a bunch of twats from how they're reacting.

Well, I hate to break it to you but... you're a meanie.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 04 2016 19:36 GMT
#511
The fact that damdred called me scum for pressuring Marv feels so fucking scummy.
Minimal effort.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 04 2016 19:36 GMT
#512
On October 05 2016 04:35 Superbia wrote:
I'm kind of annoyed with people but I know if I'm too defensive I'll be called scum.

You could just play the game if you are town. I know - foreign concept.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 19:37 GMT
#513
On October 05 2016 04:31 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 04:17 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 04:09 batsnacks wrote:
On October 05 2016 03:54 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 03:48 batsnacks wrote:
I've been trying to find some conversation about things I've noticed but haven't found much. Most of the responses to my posts have been from Calix who imo is hard to talk to due to the defensive and abrasive tone they're using constantly. Not really conducive to fleshing things out.


I laugh at the idea of me intimidating you so much with my tone that you don't even want to respond to me.

Kindly grow a pair, respond to my points against you, and take some stances plz.

your points against me are okay you just have my intentions wrong. I haven't taken many hard stances because there haven't been many happens in the game i feel strongly about, thus trying to talk to people about stuff I notice.



If that's the case, why haven't you tried harder to push the few points that you do have? You just dropped some fantastical theories including gems such as NU and myself hard-core distancing ourselves. You show zero conviction in what you say which strikes me as un-town-like.

On October 05 2016 04:13 batsnacks wrote:
On October 05 2016 04:06 Calix wrote:
Okay, so you're claiming that I am self-aware of the fact that people were scum-reading me. I don't see how this means anything.

I changed my mind primarily because HF pointed out that Koshi was backing up NU.

Furthermore, that's not what he was arguing - he stated that neither of us CARED about how the thread perceived us.

I'm not 'looking' like I'm moving the game forward. It bloody well did, regardless of how accurate my accusations were.

The awareness made me believe you cared you're also using a pretty defensive tone and you're making a lot of posts that don't really concern you about yourself personally e.g. NU explaining to you that a post of mine that was about HF actually wasn't against you



Explain how being defensive is a scum tell.

I explicitly stated that I was inquiring about the quotes you were using as I was aware that you were referring to HF. You couldn't have missed that as I made that comment right after NU pointed this out.

Listen, unless someone else is getting anything useful out of this dumb shit fight I'm just going to ignore you because I feel like I'm wasting my time. I didn't say you did anything scummy I don't think you're Mafia, I said your similarly dumb argument with NU is NAI. That your exchange with NU seemed null vs town to me, I don't think it is outrageous for me to think this as any alignment.

Your case on me is fine, I'll take harder stances on stuff if stuff comes up, if not I can live with you being right about me for now.


Case in point. I'm not throwing shit at you. I'm raising legitimate points which you yourself admit have validity.

'I don't think it's outrageous for me to think this as any alignment' - This is an incredibly weird line. Call me crazy but it reads to me like you're low-key admitting to making that post because you think it's a 'townie' view to have, not because you actually believe it. Not a strong point but it sits oddly with me anyhow.

I'll look forward to you doing more 'productive' things in the meantime, my dear.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 04 2016 19:38 GMT
#514
On October 05 2016 04:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 04:35 Superbia wrote:
I'm kind of annoyed with people but I know if I'm too defensive I'll be called scum.

You could just play the game if you are town. I know - foreign concept.


I am? I evaluated on the NU/Calix fight. I also (tried to) start(ed) pressure on HF/Palmar.
Minimal effort.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 19:38 GMT
#515
On October 05 2016 04:35 Superbia wrote:
I'm kind of annoyed with people but I know if I'm too defensive I'll be called scum.


Why would you give a fuck about being called 'too defensive'? It's a stupid fucking argument and even if it was valid, it doesn't stop you from posting your thoughts.

Cop-out excuse detected.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 04 2016 19:38 GMT
#516
On October 05 2016 04:38 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 04:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 05 2016 04:35 Superbia wrote:
I'm kind of annoyed with people but I know if I'm too defensive I'll be called scum.

You could just play the game if you are town. I know - foreign concept.


I am? I evaluated on the NU/Calix fight. I also (tried to) start(ed) pressure on HF/Palmar.

I for one have 0 idea why you seem to think that fight was interesting at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 04 2016 19:39 GMT
#517
On October 05 2016 03:42 Damdred wrote:
And hf push on calix really wasn't that bad so kind if just want to take him off the table today and it was kind of a weak Poe anyway. But I'd like to leave him there so he won't ignore me this game.

But on another note- <3 you town jat


On October 05 2016 03:34 Damdred wrote:
Stutters
Bats

Super

Hf

Is my scum pool currently. I'm somewhat more confident in almost everyone else being town.



It's like one of the first things to happen in this game, how on earth do I end up in a poe when you LIKE it???
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 04 2016 19:40 GMT
#518
On October 05 2016 04:38 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 04:35 Superbia wrote:
I'm kind of annoyed with people but I know if I'm too defensive I'll be called scum.


Why would you give a fuck about being called 'too defensive'? It's a stupid fucking argument and even if it was valid, it doesn't stop you from posting your thoughts.

Cop-out excuse detected.


It's why I want to be on the sidelines z. I hate fucking having to defend (or explain) myself.

Just listen to me and win the game.
Minimal effort.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 04 2016 19:41 GMT
#519
##vote Grackaroni

Grack says smart things sometimes, grack has only come in to post 0 smart things. Die.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 19:41 GMT
#520
On October 05 2016 04:40 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 04:38 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 04:35 Superbia wrote:
I'm kind of annoyed with people but I know if I'm too defensive I'll be called scum.


Why would you give a fuck about being called 'too defensive'? It's a stupid fucking argument and even if it was valid, it doesn't stop you from posting your thoughts.

Cop-out excuse detected.


It's why I want to be on the sidelines z. I hate fucking having to defend (or explain) myself.

Just listen to me and win the game.


>joins a game that revolves around discussion
>expects to coast by without having to elaborate on his thoughts

Legit.
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