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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 04 2016 12:33 GMT
#261
NU, is calix mafia?
##vote superbia
Calix the fake activity is refering to you being mafia and just pushing shit for the sake of creating posts.

Nu, can you explain why stutters is mafia?
No gg, No skill.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 12:33 GMT
#262
Also no shit your point 'looks' dumb. It's fucking retarded.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 12:34 GMT
#263
On October 04 2016 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
NU, is calix mafia?
##vote superbia
Calix the fake activity is refering to you being mafia and just pushing shit for the sake of creating posts.

Nu, can you explain why stutters is mafia?


So you think I am scummy but you vote for Superbia?

You're going to have to walk me through that one.

(also NU said he agreed with me about Stutters)
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 04 2016 12:36 GMT
#264
On October 04 2016 21:32 Calix wrote:
Legit question. Are you actually scum-reading me?

You've made some mocking comments and "oh XYZ bullshit reason concerns me" and even agreed with me on a point or two but you have not actually said "I think Calix is scummy" or called anything I've done scummy...just questionable.

I town-read you.

What I have seen from you so far does not strike me as odd.

I agreed with Oats' comment on you because I could understand where he was coming from. Not knowing you're Hypocrisy Incarnate, he could not know that your comments about me making fluff posts were NAI. Capiche?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 12:38 GMT
#265
On October 04 2016 21:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 21:32 Calix wrote:
Legit question. Are you actually scum-reading me?

You've made some mocking comments and "oh XYZ bullshit reason concerns me" and even agreed with me on a point or two but you have not actually said "I think Calix is scummy" or called anything I've done scummy...just questionable.

I town-read you.

What I have seen from you so far does not strike me as odd.

I agreed with Oats' comment on you because I could understand where he was coming from. Not knowing you're Hypocrisy Incarnate, he could not know that your comments about me making fluff posts were NAI. Capiche?


Being a hypocrite is detracting from the main point.

You're not the slightest bit suspicious of my god-awful push on you this morning? Why?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 04 2016 12:41 GMT
#266
On October 04 2016 21:07 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote:
This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol.


If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read.


So you're arguing that I am pushing a read onto someone who I claim has obvious town/ scum meta.

Let's just indulge in this delusion and pretend that I'm scum and let's assume that you're town...since this push makes no sense for two of the scum to do.

I decide to make a lame push on you based on the question.

People start to town-read you for your question.

I pop in and double down on my push, thus drawing a shit-load of attention to myself.

Even if I mislynched you, I would look exceptionally bad for mislynching someone that I claim has "obvious town/ scum meta"

So what exactly does scum!Calix get out of doing this, exactly? Inquiring minds want to know.

Weirdly defensive post

I keep thinking there should be enough activity from Calix by now to have some opinion of their alignment but I'm having trouble coming up with anything. Most of calix's contributions are game mechanics inspired I could see them coming from any angle or alignment.

And there are a couple of these "at least we're talking about something I'm okay with that" statements from Calix that show an awareness that they're "contributing" to the game. Like maybe Mafia Calix is intentionally choosing to talk about things that are easy to fake perspectives on.

I was thinking that the Calix-NU exchange should feel town-town if they are both town and familiar with each other , and I'm getting town vibes from NU not from Calix though they're null.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 04 2016 12:41 GMT
#267
On October 04 2016 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
NU, is calix mafia?
##vote superbia
Calix the fake activity is refering to you being mafia and just pushing shit for the sake of creating posts.

Nu, can you explain why stutters is mafia?

I am not very good at reading Calix, frankly. So far I am one who thinks she is town.

PSA: Nothing stops you guys from reading me or Calix on your own. Putting blind faith in either of our reads is not optimal. As I said, despite Calix bragging on how easy she can scum-read me, she only scum-read me 1/3 times I rolled a non-town role.

Woah, no, I cannot for I never said he was mafia. I agreed with the point about his questions and posts being irrelevant to the current game, and said it reminded me of some guys' scum play on my homesite.
Yes, he is scummy for what he has done so far, no, it does not make him mafia alone.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 12:44 GMT
#268
Actually I'm calling bullshit here.

NU says that 'what I have seen from you so far does not strike me as odd'

On October 04 2016 21:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 21:32 Calix wrote:
Legit question. Are you actually scum-reading me?

You've made some mocking comments and "oh XYZ bullshit reason concerns me" and even agreed with me on a point or two but you have not actually said "I think Calix is scummy" or called anything I've done scummy...just questionable.

I town-read you.

What I have seen from you so far does not strike me as odd.

I agreed with Oats' comment on you because I could understand where he was coming from. Not knowing you're Hypocrisy Incarnate, he could not know that your comments about me making fluff posts were NAI. Capiche?


...yet he makes these posts in his catch-up where he clearly has concerns and doubts about my posts.

This strikes me as inconsistent.

On October 04 2016 20:44 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 15:40 Holyflare wrote:
nEVERuNLUCKY probably bs confirmed himself town and koshi is either abusing it and bsing or is also town. Calix bad or mafia for even voting that way.

More wishy washy statements on koshi to come.

I see what you did with my name, lul.

I'm concerned that Calix didn't question my BS confirm. She just went along with it and called me bad.


On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote:
This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol.


If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read.



On October 04 2016 21:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 21:02 marvellosity wrote:
On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote:
This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol.


If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read.

For the sake of argument, why would he try force a read on the one person who can most easily rebut him ?


She can claim that she knows my play and get others to lynch me. Doesn't matter if I can rebut her, as long as the others trust her voice over mine.

I don't really understand why you ask this question. Power Wolfs do this all the time. There isn't really a 'why'.


On October 04 2016 21:31 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 21:07 Calix wrote:
On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote:
This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol.


If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read.


So you're arguing that I am pushing a read onto someone who I claim has obvious town/ scum meta.

Let's just indulge in this delusion and pretend that I'm scum and let's assume that you're town...since this push makes no sense for two of the scum to do.

I decide to make a lame push on you based on the question.

People start to town-read you for your question.

I pop in and double down on my push, thus drawing a shit-load of attention to myself.

Even if I mislynched you, I would look exceptionally bad for mislynching someone that I claim has "obvious town/ scum meta"

So what exactly does scum!Calix get out of doing this, exactly? Inquiring minds want to know.


Put that way my point looks dumb. Still feel uneasy about you saying I look for shortcuts often (NAI)and associating a scum-read to it. I don't even know what shortcuts you are referring to.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 04 2016 12:44 GMT
#269
On October 04 2016 21:38 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 21:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 21:32 Calix wrote:
Legit question. Are you actually scum-reading me?

You've made some mocking comments and "oh XYZ bullshit reason concerns me" and even agreed with me on a point or two but you have not actually said "I think Calix is scummy" or called anything I've done scummy...just questionable.

I town-read you.

What I have seen from you so far does not strike me as odd.

I agreed with Oats' comment on you because I could understand where he was coming from. Not knowing you're Hypocrisy Incarnate, he could not know that your comments about me making fluff posts were NAI. Capiche?


Being a hypocrite is detracting from the main point.

You're not the slightest bit suspicious of my god-awful push on you this morning? Why?


I have low expectations for you. Mislynch is your nickname after all.

Somehow I read that push as a town push. Your scum play is more conclusive and "No, I am right"y than this.

On October 04 2016 21:33 Calix wrote:
Also no shit your point 'looks' dumb. It's fucking retarded.

Calix
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 04 2016 12:45 GMT
#270
lol someone said "Power Wolf" that sounds like a sex thing
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 04 2016 12:45 GMT
#271
Lol wtf you guys played like less than 10 games together and profess to be able to read each other one post into the game, come on man.

Calix that's really soft. Why can't I vote for superbia? Am I gonna lose my vote? No. Am I free to vote again? Yes.

So why is my vote even alignment indicative when there are still more than 24 hours to Lynch?
I would like to hear this.
No gg, No skill.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 04 2016 12:47 GMT
#272
On October 04 2016 21:44 Calix wrote:
Actually I'm calling bullshit here.

NU says that 'what I have seen from you so far does not strike me as odd'

Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 21:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 21:32 Calix wrote:
Legit question. Are you actually scum-reading me?

You've made some mocking comments and "oh XYZ bullshit reason concerns me" and even agreed with me on a point or two but you have not actually said "I think Calix is scummy" or called anything I've done scummy...just questionable.

I town-read you.

What I have seen from you so far does not strike me as odd.

I agreed with Oats' comment on you because I could understand where he was coming from. Not knowing you're Hypocrisy Incarnate, he could not know that your comments about me making fluff posts were NAI. Capiche?


...yet he makes these posts in his catch-up where he clearly has concerns and doubts about my posts.

This strikes me as inconsistent.

Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 20:44 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 15:40 Holyflare wrote:
nEVERuNLUCKY probably bs confirmed himself town and koshi is either abusing it and bsing or is also town. Calix bad or mafia for even voting that way.

More wishy washy statements on koshi to come.

I see what you did with my name, lul.

I'm concerned that Calix didn't question my BS confirm. She just went along with it and called me bad.


Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote:
This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol.


If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read.



Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 21:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 21:02 marvellosity wrote:
On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote:
This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol.


If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read.

For the sake of argument, why would he try force a read on the one person who can most easily rebut him ?


She can claim that she knows my play and get others to lynch me. Doesn't matter if I can rebut her, as long as the others trust her voice over mine.

I don't really understand why you ask this question. Power Wolfs do this all the time. There isn't really a 'why'.


Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 21:31 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 21:07 Calix wrote:
On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote:
This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol.


If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read.


So you're arguing that I am pushing a read onto someone who I claim has obvious town/ scum meta.

Let's just indulge in this delusion and pretend that I'm scum and let's assume that you're town...since this push makes no sense for two of the scum to do.

I decide to make a lame push on you based on the question.

People start to town-read you for your question.

I pop in and double down on my push, thus drawing a shit-load of attention to myself.

Even if I mislynched you, I would look exceptionally bad for mislynching someone that I claim has "obvious town/ scum meta"

So what exactly does scum!Calix get out of doing this, exactly? Inquiring minds want to know.


Put that way my point looks dumb. Still feel uneasy about you saying I look for shortcuts often (NAI)and associating a scum-read to it. I don't even know what shortcuts you are referring to.

Where is the contradiction?

Your posts don't strike me as odd AI-wise, but I am concerned with the points you are missing.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 12:48 GMT
#273
On October 04 2016 21:41 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 21:07 Calix wrote:
On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote:
This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol.


If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read.


So you're arguing that I am pushing a read onto someone who I claim has obvious town/ scum meta.

Let's just indulge in this delusion and pretend that I'm scum and let's assume that you're town...since this push makes no sense for two of the scum to do.

I decide to make a lame push on you based on the question.

People start to town-read you for your question.

I pop in and double down on my push, thus drawing a shit-load of attention to myself.

Even if I mislynched you, I would look exceptionally bad for mislynching someone that I claim has "obvious town/ scum meta"

So what exactly does scum!Calix get out of doing this, exactly? Inquiring minds want to know.

Weirdly defensive post

I keep thinking there should be enough activity from Calix by now to have some opinion of their alignment but I'm having trouble coming up with anything. Most of calix's contributions are game mechanics inspired I could see them coming from any angle or alignment.

And there are a couple of these "at least we're talking about something I'm okay with that" statements from Calix that show an awareness that they're "contributing" to the game. Like maybe Mafia Calix is intentionally choosing to talk about things that are easy to fake perspectives on.

I was thinking that the Calix-NU exchange should feel town-town if they are both town and familiar with each other , and I'm getting town vibes from NU not from Calix though they're null.


Defensiveness has never been a scum tell and never will be.

There is also nothing defensive about walking through a thought process and asking how my posts make sense from a scum perspective.

I'm hard to read? Call the fucking presses!

Being self-aware is just a personality trait when it comes to myself. I am clearly contributing to the game since I made the NU push and helped start up this discussion. That's just a fact.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 04 2016 12:49 GMT
#274
NU why does Calix's things strike you as town things are you just saying that to look tough
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 04 2016 12:49 GMT
#275
Lol what the fuck.

Can you tell me what reads you got from the nu push and the people that responded calix?
No gg, No skill.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 12:50 GMT
#276
On October 04 2016 21:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lol wtf you guys played like less than 10 games together and profess to be able to read each other one post into the game, come on man.

Calix that's really soft. Why can't I vote for superbia? Am I gonna lose my vote? No. Am I free to vote again? Yes.

So why is my vote even alignment indicative when there are still more than 24 hours to Lynch?
I would like to hear this.


All I did was ask why you made a post where you called me scum...and then voted for someone else without explaining why Superbia > Calix.

I didn't say it was AI. I'm questioning you because I don't understand your thought process.

You are also using way too many questions in your response and didn't answer my initial query.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 12:51 GMT
#277
On October 04 2016 21:47 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 21:44 Calix wrote:
Actually I'm calling bullshit here.

NU says that 'what I have seen from you so far does not strike me as odd'

On October 04 2016 21:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 21:32 Calix wrote:
Legit question. Are you actually scum-reading me?

You've made some mocking comments and "oh XYZ bullshit reason concerns me" and even agreed with me on a point or two but you have not actually said "I think Calix is scummy" or called anything I've done scummy...just questionable.

I town-read you.

What I have seen from you so far does not strike me as odd.

I agreed with Oats' comment on you because I could understand where he was coming from. Not knowing you're Hypocrisy Incarnate, he could not know that your comments about me making fluff posts were NAI. Capiche?


...yet he makes these posts in his catch-up where he clearly has concerns and doubts about my posts.

This strikes me as inconsistent.

On October 04 2016 20:44 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 15:40 Holyflare wrote:
nEVERuNLUCKY probably bs confirmed himself town and koshi is either abusing it and bsing or is also town. Calix bad or mafia for even voting that way.

More wishy washy statements on koshi to come.

I see what you did with my name, lul.

I'm concerned that Calix didn't question my BS confirm. She just went along with it and called me bad.


On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote:
This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol.


If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read.



On October 04 2016 21:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 21:02 marvellosity wrote:
On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote:
This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol.


If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read.

For the sake of argument, why would he try force a read on the one person who can most easily rebut him ?


She can claim that she knows my play and get others to lynch me. Doesn't matter if I can rebut her, as long as the others trust her voice over mine.

I don't really understand why you ask this question. Power Wolfs do this all the time. There isn't really a 'why'.


On October 04 2016 21:31 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 21:07 Calix wrote:
On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote:
This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol.


If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read.


So you're arguing that I am pushing a read onto someone who I claim has obvious town/ scum meta.

Let's just indulge in this delusion and pretend that I'm scum and let's assume that you're town...since this push makes no sense for two of the scum to do.

I decide to make a lame push on you based on the question.

People start to town-read you for your question.

I pop in and double down on my push, thus drawing a shit-load of attention to myself.

Even if I mislynched you, I would look exceptionally bad for mislynching someone that I claim has "obvious town/ scum meta"

So what exactly does scum!Calix get out of doing this, exactly? Inquiring minds want to know.


Put that way my point looks dumb. Still feel uneasy about you saying I look for shortcuts often (NAI)and associating a scum-read to it. I don't even know what shortcuts you are referring to.

Where is the contradiction?

Your posts don't strike me as odd AI-wise, but I am concerned with the points you are missing.


Wait, so your posts where you accuse me of "forcing a read on you" and say that I "still make you uneasy" AREN'T things that you find odd???

Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 12:52 GMT
#278
I'll post a more exhaustive list of reads later on. Still in the process of responding and all that crap.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 04 2016 12:54 GMT
#279
On October 04 2016 21:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lol wtf you guys played like less than 10 games together and profess to be able to read each other one post into the game, come on man.


6 games together, 7 games if you count the game she coached me.

She never said she was "able to read [me] one post into the game". Neither have I. Where did you get this from? All she said is that I was an easy read for her (which, again, is not necessarily true) and that I always was the first one lynched as mafia.

I don't make anything out of this. Calix is just that person with a massive ego. While she is as tall as Peter Dinklage IRL, her ego is as big as Robert Downey Jr.

Calix that's really soft. Why can't I vote for superbia? Am I gonna lose my vote? No. Am I free to vote again? Yes.
That is not what she said.

You are contradicting yourself by saying that Calix appears scummy to you, yet, you vote Superbia whom you made no comment on.

So why is my vote even alignment indicative when there are still more than 24 hours to Lynch?
I would like to hear this.

Really, really, really defensive here. Calix never said your vote was AI.

3 "reality twists" in one post.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
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Canada1622 Posts
October 04 2016 12:55 GMT
#280
On October 04 2016 21:49 batsnacks wrote:
NU why does Calix's things strike you as town things are you just saying that to look tough


Ugh, you won't like my explanation. I'm bad at defending town-reads.

Tone. Confidence. Not-scummy.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
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