I'm not understanding one of the reasons you scum read me. If I am trying to slow roll you and calix why do I town read both of you?
That leaves me,with hideous and horrid options this early in the game. And why should I scum,hunt atm I have a nice town circle starting in my mind I'll,just lynch outside it today.
@Shape hts would,be proud of me.
But on a serious nite shape, I like my read as a formative step. Both of them have an f u attitude and a don't back down attitude, that we mainly see come from an t v t perspective this early,
Atm I think vivax, cal and never are town. And I want to like you shape so say something I love you long time for
You get a Sheriff-Vig when someone is lynched, yes? They can use their LW to say "I checked X". On N2, the next person to get lynched can say "X is inno/ guilty"
You do, but they cannot interact with the town anymore. They share a QT, yo. Their LW will be ones they had as Vanilla Townies.
Sorry for pissing you off :3
If this is true then most of what I've been saying is inaccurate because I assumed that when someone died they immediately turned into a TPR...
...but where does it say that the VTs don't get access to the QTs before the end of the night in the setup?
You get a Sheriff-Vig when someone is lynched, yes? They can use their LW to say "I checked X". On N2, the next person to get lynched can say "X is inno/ guilty"
You do, but they cannot interact with the town anymore. They share a QT, yo. Their LW will be ones they had as Vanilla Townies.
Sorry for pissing you off :3
No their LW would go out at the end of the cycle their flipped in. So, if I got NK, my LW would come out at the end of the D2 lynch.
For me Calix remains meh. Emotional doesn't mean town.
I think it's good to establish a way for the dead townies to communicate with the rest of the thread because I'm not seeing a way that the scum manipulation of the LWs/ votes can be prevented.
To make it very simple (since the discussion might seem like we're trying to split atoms here), look at this quote, and tell me why it's good that we have a way of communication BECAUSE scum can manipulate.
It just doesn't make sense. There is no causality. Whether you have a way of communication or not, it's not going to influence the manipulation.
So I concluded that this looks like text put in here for the sake of putting something in there.
On September 09 2016 07:51 Damdred wrote: I'm not understanding one of the reasons you scum read me. If I am trying to slow roll you and calix why do I town read both of you?
I get that, but why only me and her? Shapelog and Vivax have posted enough content for you to formulate a read on them and/or reply to their posts with a critical mindset to find the flaws in what they say. I do not like that you're keeping your posts to the new zoo exhibits.
That leaves me,with hideous and horrid options this early in the game. And why should I scum,hunt atm I have a nice town circle starting in my mind I'll,just lynch outside it today.
Why would you scum-hunt? Do I even have to reply here?
It's not a town circle if the players inside it don't town-read you.
But on a serious nite shape, I like my read as a formative step. Both of them have an f u attitude and a don't back down attitude, that we mainly see come from an t v t perspective this early,
Atm I think vivax, cal and never are town. And I want to like you shape so say something I love you long time for
On September 09 2016 07:51 Damdred wrote: I'm not understanding one of the reasons you scum read me. If I am trying to slow roll you and calix why do I town read both of you?
That leaves me,with hideous and horrid options this early in the game. And why should I scum,hunt atm I have a nice town circle starting in my mind I'll,just lynch outside it today.
@Shape hts would,be proud of me.
But on a serious nite shape, I like my read as a formative step. Both of them have an f u attitude and a don't back down attitude, that we mainly see come from an t v t perspective this early,
Atm I think vivax, cal and never are town. And I want to like you shape so say something I love you long time for
Eh I suck at reading fights. I might be harping on the meta their share, but that gives me such a negative taste to saying Never is town for the attitude. Cal eh, maybe. Since it comes from self defense. But content will eventually tell me if their town or not.
Besides, half the thread haven't even posted yet.
I will say "fuck you, you horrible, drunk, misrepresentation, of top tier TL mafia play." and that I really don't care if you TR me or not rn. You know what makes me town, and what makes me scum. I am not going to intentionally try to falter you. I am going to make you work at giving me a read, or lynch you for not doing anything.
Vivax is obviously town for today and I wouldn't lynch him until d2-3 even if he wasn't doing God's work today. Though his posts have been pretty nice even if I disagree at points.
And I am sort of scum hunting you just don't like the how which isn't of consequence nor a reason to scum read me.
And shape is one of more interesting scum players on site, so I'll always hold out on him.
On September 09 2016 07:59 Damdred wrote: Vivax is obviously town for today and I wouldn't lynch him until d2-3 even if he wasn't doing God's work today. Though his posts have been pretty nice even if I disagree at points.
And I am sort of scum hunting you just don't like the how which isn't of consequence nor a reason to scum read me.
And shape is one of more interesting scum players on site, so I'll always hold out on him.
You didn't explain your read on him, LMAO. "Obvious town" doesn't convince anybody (Maybe Eggy).
Which points do you disagree with?
How are you scum-hunting? I don't recall reading any of your posts with a comment as to why X would be scum nor pointing out the fallacies in people's posts.
I think it's good to establish a way for the dead townies to communicate with the rest of the thread because I'm not seeing a way that the scum manipulation of the LWs/ votes can be prevented.
To make it very simple (since the discussion might seem like we're trying to split atoms here), look at this quote, and tell me why it's good that we have a way of communication BECAUSE scum can manipulate.
It just doesn't make sense. There is no causality. Whether you have a way of communication or not, it's not going to influence the manipulation.
So I concluded that this looks like text put in here for the sake of putting something in there.
Since the scum can only manipulate two of the LWs, I was trying to say that having the legit LWs be presented clearly was a good idea. I was trying to think of a way to make LWs useful to the town despite the obvious handicap of "scum can change them"
However I've since been convinced that the LWs are largely pointless given that the dead townies won't be much more informed than anyone else, but I figured I might have been onto something at the time. In any case, I won't be talking about that much anymore.
(that's not me saying "oh don't bother questioning me about it because I changed my mind" btw. Even if I was being pretty dumb, I can still talk about what I thought at the time)
Hrs inquisitive, he's confrontational and he is invested so far in hoe the game is being playrd. His tone fits into his town net a and him actually posting actually is a great sign.
Do I totally agree with him? Not really, but the angles he's coming at looks town and I like his posts.
On September 09 2016 07:59 Damdred wrote: Vivax is obviously town for today and I wouldn't lynch him until d2-3 even if he wasn't doing God's work today. Though his posts have been pretty nice even if I disagree at points.
And I am sort of scum hunting you just don't like the how which isn't of consequence nor a reason to scum read me.
What about the posts are nice?
And shape is one of more interesting scum players on site, so I'll always hold out on him.
On September 09 2016 07:59 Damdred wrote: Vivax is obviously town for today and I wouldn't lynch him until d2-3 even if he wasn't doing God's work today. Though his posts have been pretty nice even if I disagree at points.
And I am sort of scum hunting you just don't like the how which isn't of consequence nor a reason to scum read me.
And shape is one of more interesting scum players on site, so I'll always hold out on him.
You didn't explain your read on him, LMAO. "Obvious town" doesn't convince anybody (Maybe Eggy).
Which points do you disagree with?
How are you scum-hunting? I don't recall reading any of your posts with a comment as to why X would be scum nor pointing out the fallacies in people's posts.
Explain.
Can you cut the crap with referring to Eggy every game? Nobody here knows who you're talking about and it's petty.
Pointing out fallacies =/= scum-hunting. Going "oh you misrepped me and made an appeal to emotion" isn't the same thing as detailed analysis.
Vivax's post that I responded to is a MUCH better example of legit scum-hunting even if he's wrong. Maybe try emulating that instead of going "boom! Found a scum tell, gg no re"
I don't agree with Damdred that he's scum-hunting. He claims to be using POE (with town-reads) but that is not the same thing imo. Otherwise not sure what he would be referring to.
I wouldn't scumread Damdred this early, but might be cause he's townreading me so openly. Either way, he's in the club of people I don't lynch D1 unless he does something royally scummy.
NeverUnlucky is town cause he supported me pressuring Calix, and caused a little fight there (you'll fit right in too!).
TickTock and fuba probs deserve a vote for fucking off right after posting, when the thread must have looked pretty busy already.
Honestly Wheels on the bus is a symbolic song on how I play scum. Wheels on the bus go round and round, all through the town....
On September 09 2016 08:06 Damdred wrote: @Shape I'll answer seriously on vivax
Hrs inquisitive, he's confrontational and he is invested so far in hoe the game is being playrd. His tone fits into his town net a and him actually posting actually is a great sign.
Do I totally agree with him? Not really, but the angles he's coming at looks town and I like his posts.
So it's enough for a lean today.
Oh ninjaed.
See, I want to say active vivax is good vivax. But Koshi.....Holy shit Koshi is fucking scary. Breaking meta is real.
Eh, you might have a point about the confrontational part. I disagree about the tone at spots. I prob. look back his posts.
It looks like you pulled a NU if you know what I'm saying.
It's cute that you're using a point I once raised against you in a previous game against me, but no dice.
Your post that you refer to (where you went out of your way to call yourself a 'noob' and characterise your contributions as holding no weight) is not the same as my post where I specifically stated "you can still question me about X point"
This does the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you're claiming I'm trying to do. (avoid accountability for my posts)
For anyone reading this, NU and I are referring to a past game here because NU loves his meta. Expect more pointless references, folks.
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