EPTOn September 12 2016 23:27 Tumblewood wrote:
don't know how you can really say I am being useless. if we're going by whatever bullshit metric you use about ten players are useless this game. I am one of the most present, least useless players in the game.
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On September 12 2016 23:24 Tumblewood wrote:
meta is always being useless? reminds me of someone...
On September 12 2016 23:21 Palmar wrote:
Fine, get lynched then. I don't care if your meta is always being useless, that's scum favored meta and you should be lynched for it. Who knows when you're useless AND scum. Maybe it's this time! Hell, it's probably this time.
On September 12 2016 23:20 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck that. writing analysis is by far the worst part of my game. any case with more than one point goes down the shitter. fortunately I don't actually have to play by your rules
On September 12 2016 19:49 Palmar wrote:
This is terrible and I'll break down why:
Actually you can. In most cases it's a single post or two where mafia fucks up that allows you to make a case. No mafia is bad enough to give himself away every single post he makes. This is why I generally ignore humongous cases that quote almost every post by someone and try to paint them scummy. It's very easy to make an accurate read on someone on even a single post (see me vs marv in some game and me vs tnkted in some other game, cba referencing).
TT did things that are objectively scummy, I don't care what you think about meta or history. I generally don't use meta all that much. Here's my own interpretation of TT's filter.
Notice that none of this is "meta" or takes into account how he acts as a player. I just don't care about meta. Sometimes I'm wrong because of it (I once lynched kush in lylo for refusing to post coherently and putting in effort), but most of the times it's very effective.
If you are town you should. If you are correct, you wouldn't have a reason to doubt your read, and if you are wrong you might realize why. But I guess that would require pretending to put in effort.
I'm not even 100% sure you're mafia TW, but you are objectively the best lynch. You've made a bunch of terrible posts, you're not pushing the game forward, there's even dumb reasons to think you're scum (no one wanted to switch with me on d1)
This is almost written as sort of an offer to let you redeem yourself. If you are town, you need to put in time and effort. Go write analysis or thoughts on every player in the game. Pro-Tip: if you're mafia make sure you're careful when you write about your buddies
On September 12 2016 09:07 Tumblewood wrote:
the premise of this argument is that hf is scum. using the premise as backup, we can easily conclude that hf is indeed scum.
anyway
known to some as holyflare, to others as hf, to his rl friends by some stupid rl name, but to tl as lynchbait slayer.
first, I propose a question to you, reader: can you make an accurate read on someone based off of just five posts?
the answer is no, holyflare. no.
this is basic stuff. honestly. tt doesn't have a meta like marv of making 2 posts and then quitting as scum. that doesn't even matter though, because the basis of hf's attack was completely unrelated to the fact that tt was afk. it was, in fact, a dissection of tt's five total posts. and not a point about how he was a great policy lynch for his lack of posting. hmmm
throughout the game, hf shows a willingness to favor painting every road as leading to tt is scum over thinking critically about his alignment, and generally not being a jackass.
you might expect that this case would have quotes, but hf's filter is probably 50 million pages and also my arguments that involve quotes usually result in me missing the point of the argument or, worse, doubting my original read.
this is a reminder to go read grack's case. it is better.
hf also shows an amazing willingness to call obviously townie people scum for not getting onto his stupid wagon
his filter is 95% devoted to lynching townies if that says anything.
...
god, I can't do this anymore. I don't think this is a lost cause, but my entire case, I think, hinges on me being town. honestly, try being me and it's really fucking easy to see how hf is scum.
this is why I don't make big scum cases
the premise of this argument is that hf is scum. using the premise as backup, we can easily conclude that hf is indeed scum.
anyway
known to some as holyflare, to others as hf, to his rl friends by some stupid rl name, but to tl as lynchbait slayer.
first, I propose a question to you, reader: can you make an accurate read on someone based off of just five posts?
the answer is no, holyflare. no.
this is basic stuff. honestly. tt doesn't have a meta like marv of making 2 posts and then quitting as scum. that doesn't even matter though, because the basis of hf's attack was completely unrelated to the fact that tt was afk. it was, in fact, a dissection of tt's five total posts. and not a point about how he was a great policy lynch for his lack of posting. hmmm
throughout the game, hf shows a willingness to favor painting every road as leading to tt is scum over thinking critically about his alignment, and generally not being a jackass.
you might expect that this case would have quotes, but hf's filter is probably 50 million pages and also my arguments that involve quotes usually result in me missing the point of the argument or, worse, doubting my original read.
this is a reminder to go read grack's case. it is better.
hf also shows an amazing willingness to call obviously townie people scum for not getting onto his stupid wagon
his filter is 95% devoted to lynching townies if that says anything.
...
god, I can't do this anymore. I don't think this is a lost cause, but my entire case, I think, hinges on me being town. honestly, try being me and it's really fucking easy to see how hf is scum.
this is why I don't make big scum cases
This is terrible and I'll break down why:
On September 12 2016 09:07 Tumblewood wrote:
first, I propose a question to you, reader: can you make an accurate read on someone based off of just five posts?
the answer is no, holyflare. no.
first, I propose a question to you, reader: can you make an accurate read on someone based off of just five posts?
the answer is no, holyflare. no.
Actually you can. In most cases it's a single post or two where mafia fucks up that allows you to make a case. No mafia is bad enough to give himself away every single post he makes. This is why I generally ignore humongous cases that quote almost every post by someone and try to paint them scummy. It's very easy to make an accurate read on someone on even a single post (see me vs marv in some game and me vs tnkted in some other game, cba referencing).
On September 12 2016 09:07 Tumblewood wrote:
this is basic stuff. honestly. tt doesn't have a meta like marv of making 2 posts and then quitting as scum. that doesn't even matter though, because the basis of hf's attack was completely unrelated to the fact that tt was afk. it was, in fact, a dissection of tt's five total posts. and not a point about how he was a great policy lynch for his lack of posting. hmmm
throughout the game, hf shows a willingness to favor painting every road as leading to tt is scum over thinking critically about his alignment, and generally not being a jackass.
this is basic stuff. honestly. tt doesn't have a meta like marv of making 2 posts and then quitting as scum. that doesn't even matter though, because the basis of hf's attack was completely unrelated to the fact that tt was afk. it was, in fact, a dissection of tt's five total posts. and not a point about how he was a great policy lynch for his lack of posting. hmmm
throughout the game, hf shows a willingness to favor painting every road as leading to tt is scum over thinking critically about his alignment, and generally not being a jackass.
TT did things that are objectively scummy, I don't care what you think about meta or history. I generally don't use meta all that much. Here's my own interpretation of TT's filter.
On September 11 2016 05:14 Palmar wrote:
It's not about that.
Tictock is objectively scummy.
He did that thing in the early game with the scumclaim. That's fine and all, and loads of people do it, but the only way it ever works out for town is if you then follow up by looking at the people who react to it. He did very little analysis following the claim.
He also did the whole "I'll talk more after dinner" and then disappeared. If he had just disappeared it wouldn't have meant anything, but because he claimed he'd be back it's clear he wanted to appear as if he was contributing.
Neither of these make him lock mafia, but both of them, combined with his short filter and poorly explained reads make him a pretty solid day 1 lynch. He is a high % mafia target.
On September 11 2016 05:08 Calix wrote:
Oh for fuck's sake. This train is woeful and everyone is just content to slap a vote down >_>
Oh for fuck's sake. This train is woeful and everyone is just content to slap a vote down >_>
It's not about that.
Tictock is objectively scummy.
He did that thing in the early game with the scumclaim. That's fine and all, and loads of people do it, but the only way it ever works out for town is if you then follow up by looking at the people who react to it. He did very little analysis following the claim.
He also did the whole "I'll talk more after dinner" and then disappeared. If he had just disappeared it wouldn't have meant anything, but because he claimed he'd be back it's clear he wanted to appear as if he was contributing.
Neither of these make him lock mafia, but both of them, combined with his short filter and poorly explained reads make him a pretty solid day 1 lynch. He is a high % mafia target.
Notice that none of this is "meta" or takes into account how he acts as a player. I just don't care about meta. Sometimes I'm wrong because of it (I once lynched kush in lylo for refusing to post coherently and putting in effort), but most of the times it's very effective.
On September 12 2016 09:07 Tumblewood wrote:
you might expect that this case would have quotes, but hf's filter is probably 50 million pages and also my arguments that involve quotes usually result in me missing the point of the argument or, worse, doubting my original read.
you might expect that this case would have quotes, but hf's filter is probably 50 million pages and also my arguments that involve quotes usually result in me missing the point of the argument or, worse, doubting my original read.
If you are town you should. If you are correct, you wouldn't have a reason to doubt your read, and if you are wrong you might realize why. But I guess that would require pretending to put in effort.
I'm not even 100% sure you're mafia TW, but you are objectively the best lynch. You've made a bunch of terrible posts, you're not pushing the game forward, there's even dumb reasons to think you're scum (no one wanted to switch with me on d1)
This is almost written as sort of an offer to let you redeem yourself. If you are town, you need to put in time and effort. Go write analysis or thoughts on every player in the game. Pro-Tip: if you're mafia make sure you're careful when you write about your buddies
fuck that. writing analysis is by far the worst part of my game. any case with more than one point goes down the shitter. fortunately I don't actually have to play by your rules
Fine, get lynched then. I don't care if your meta is always being useless, that's scum favored meta and you should be lynched for it. Who knows when you're useless AND scum. Maybe it's this time! Hell, it's probably this time.
meta is always being useless? reminds me of someone...
don't know how you can really say I am being useless. if we're going by whatever bullshit metric you use about ten players are useless this game. I am one of the most present, least useless players in the game.
Quit whining and do your job and maybe everything will be fine.
Yes, there's a ton of people who are useless. You are currently the one I'm lynching, so prove that someone else deserves to be lynched. Write a case that convinces me!
It's how mafia goes.
