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On September 11 2016 07:57 Damdred wrote:
Nu why is it again that sky can town hunt and you say he's scum hunting, but when I'm largely town hunting and trying to build what I think is the right group I am not?

And no I disagree with your conclusions over all on sky him voting tt especially when there was a movement away from tt (to a poont) is just scummy.

In fact he complains about people ignoring the other lurkers and never really brings much of anything worth talking about up just says the filter he checked wasn't that bad.

Then he bites someone who he really shouldn't given his filter. So no it's scum

On September 10 2016 05:22 Damdred wrote:
So, hi. I have destroyed my phone by accidentally flushing it down the toilet.

So going to,be kinda not here as much until I get a new one. Will attempt to,catch up and make hf sheep me or sheep hf. Or lynch hf. Also three options possible (love you buddy)

On September 11 2016 07:57 Damdred wrote:
Nu why is it again that sky can town hunt and you say he's scum hunting, but when I'm largely town hunting and trying to build what I think is the right group I am not?

And no I disagree with your conclusions over all on sky him voting tt especially when there was a movement away from tt (to a poont) is just scummy.

In fact he complains about people ignoring the other lurkers and never really brings much of anything worth talking about up just says the filter he checked wasn't that bad.

Then he bites someone who he really shouldn't given his filter. So no it's scum

On September 11 2016 08:10 Damdred wrote:


Confrontational is a nai trait scum can be nice or mean and,the same as town. This is a non point

I have talked about whatever I wanted to,when,I was in,thread, the fights. Reads, my read on tt most,of,these things were ignored by you however.

Idk if voting is mandatory where you are, but jumping on at the end,has the least amount,of responsibilities and,if he brought,hf near tie and hf,flipped even more heat would be on him.

His decision making,process does not portray town trying to push or figure out anything. Like what he said about ignoring super shape etc but never pushes then himself and votes the person he was upset we were pushing.

That's not town.

On September 11 2016 22:27 Damdred wrote:
Nothing that's posted makes me scum and honestly calix is creating a narrative that just fits what they want to see.

Sk might be scum I'm not sure the inconsitincies are more scum leaning but not,sure.

Anyway I'll probably be around some,then be here later on Monday.

Also I expected more from you hf.

On September 11 2016 19:04 Calix wrote:


This isn't part of the reason I am town-reading Skynx, but I don't like Damdred's push on Skynx either.

A. His first line (where he asks why Skynx town-clearing is townie but him doing that is scummy) would be fine taken by itself because he's pointing out a possible inconsistency. However, it fits in with his overall pattern of only commenting on things that relate to him. It doesn't look like he actually cares about pushing a scum-read (Skynx) because his focus is on NU treating him differently to Skynx. It is another example of Damdred only focusing on himself.

B. His points make no sense for him to use to scum-read Skynx when he himself admits that he was doing the same thing. According to his logic, that makes him scummy. If a townie was aware that they were doing questionable things, they would have rationalisations for why said things are helpful to the town.

Therefore, that townie would be more inclined to town-read players who are acting similarly to them, because they can relate to that behaviour and have an explanation fresh in their minds for why said player is acting like that. So let's say that town!Damdred didn't push on anyone at EOD because he was busy. He sees Skynx not pushing on anyone. He would be more likely to assume that Skynx wasn't pushing anyone because of time constraints too.

(bad example but I'm not saying this is what happened. I'm just trying to explain my thought process)

So given this, why wouldn't Damdred assume that Skynx also has similar reasoning for acting like he was instead of jumping to the explanation that makes Skynx scum?

C. This is another example of Damdred focusing on the easy targets in the thread:

- His town-reads match up with popular opinion.

- Sheep-voted on the shitty TT train, complete with horrible WIFOM conspiracy theories about scum bussing which cannot be backed up by anything in the thread. (focus on abstract theories > logical arguments)

- He never discussed other lynch targets in any of his EOD posts. Why? Because the shitty TT train was already locked in at that point so why would he need to? Even Skynx, Palmar, etc were discussing other candidates. Regardless of how shitty said discussion was, it's better than just settling for a TT vote with NO comment.

- After TT flipped, he threw shade on Grack and myself because "their defense of TT was weird" (which isn't the same as scum-motivated, just black sheep) and now focuses on Skynx after NU drew attention to this potential inconsistency. I have yet to see Damdred actually push a 'scum-read' BEFORE someone else did. Classic scum tactic of evading responsibility.

- Let's not forget the "don't blame the TT voters, blame the people off the train" post.

This was said AFTER HF and Superbia had made it clear that they were going to attack people off the TT train regardless of how TT flipped. Thus, this is a safe position for Damdred to take because he knows he'll have support in the thread already.

- I am aware that he suddenly flipped and defended me against Super because he was 'playing devil's advocate'. I have no idea what the fuck he was doing there but it didn't give me good vibes. If he did that after getting pushback against a Calix train then I'm even more inclined to think he's scum because it felt like an awkward and insincere backtrack.

On September 11 2016 22:42 Damdred wrote:


1) One is hypocritical as you yourself mainly protected yourself and have overall reacted poorly pressure, also it is natural to foremost take on accusations against yourself as only you (or a cop) knows your alignment. This is nai to the extreme doesn't make anyone scum.

2) When night began I attacked the notion that calix was scum with super via across several posts as I thought that you had nothing to gain from doing what you did. Nu asked for opinions and mine directly countered thread sentiment. So this is a blatant lie and the examples are just wrong.

3) See two obviously can't be true, and I was the starter of some early opinions.

4) I wanted tt lynched not other people, I got the person who I wanted lynched. Not scum indicative and this harkens back,to 1. Nai

As for wishy washy, yep I am sometimes I don't have perfect information so,I second guess myself whenever I can.

On September 11 2016 22:27 Damdred wrote:
Nothing that's posted makes me scum and honestly calix is creating a narrative that just fits what they want to see.

Sk might be scum I'm not sure the inconsitincies are more scum leaning but not,sure.

Anyway I'll probably be around some,then be here later on Monday.

Also I expected more from you hf.

On September 11 2016 22:54 Damdred wrote:
Shape doesn't know what to make of your inconsistencies, sees no reason that you should do what you did as scum.

On September 11 2016 23:29 Damdred wrote:
And as for palmar well he is probably top 5 player if you can get him to do things. He might fall out of top 10 soon rip

On September 12 2016 00:11 Damdred wrote:


I knew you would,come around slowly.

To your vivax point, it's possible but I'd like to,give him at least to d3. D2 we already have a few decent candidates I think. (Sky should be discussed, tw is one of,the top candidates)

Problem lies I have a lot of town reads and I get the feeling that one is wrong at least.

Like I think shape is townish now, so it leaves me in a place where it could be vivax/tumble/sky but that team doesn't feel right to me.