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On September 11 2016 03:49 Calix wrote:
Skynx, pls give your ideal targets instead of making an open-ended appeal.
Palmar, Shape, Super. Possibly Damdred.
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On September 11 2016 03:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 09:58 Holyflare wrote:No it's actually not at all. A certain scum read on someone at the start of the game generates a million times more discussion than crap discussions about mechanics, it also helps me make reads on people such as Grack being mafia now and it let's me see who is keen on just skating by and ignoring it. It's a very strong opening. But in this case I actually do think that Ticktock is mafia because: On September 10 2016 09:40 Holyflare wrote:
Simple facts are:
TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff
TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing
But... he's not mafia? Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
This mindset is like someone coming in to the game and saying the following:
"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla."
or
"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>" Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
Specifically if you call a thing boring you don't normally want to be talking about it.
If you call a thing boring and that you haven't read it you're not going to be posting about it since people could have already made the exact same point and you're wasting your time.
If you call a thing boring and you haven't read it then you aren't going to make your only content filled post on the game about it either. Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 10:19 Holyflare wrote:
My assumption, and it's a very logical assumption to make, is that he actually read/skimmed the entire thread and saw nobody made this point yet and as mafia found a way to look like he was contributing by posting "new information" since mafia love to blend and talk about mechanics.
Then all the other stuff I've posted about him too. Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
are you actually being fucking serious?
he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read:
a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset
b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said.
SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset.
Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia.
Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be.
TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff
TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing
So 1 meta, 1 shitposting, another meta, what u mean in 4th one i have no idea and one plynch argument.
On September 09 2016 10:09 Tictock wrote:
Ending pg7.
The Setup stuff kinda bores me, but I should prob read through it eventually kus it sparked a bit of discussion. Kinda getting town feels from both of NU and Calix atm though.
My thoughts on Setup, the dead should make their own calls on how to use their powers and Last Wills are not that important since the dead can be just as wrong as anyone about stuff.
Basically the only setup thing that's important to living players imo is being able to see who the dead are voting for as that gives us insight into their thoughts. In general though it is best to approach this game as a straight all vanilla game with some potential information coming from dead players.
Seems we've got a fairly active game started up here. I'm gunna have to catchup more after dinner.
So you are referring to him calling the setup boring but he should read it boils down to being illogical therefore he must be scum. You say you are assuming here, a very logical assumption.
How logical it is to assume this whole thing is very weak?
Your case is based on meta, shitposting, assumption and policy.
2 of those above can be applied to 4 I've mentioned earlier, they are essentially same with ticktock with exception that they actually posted stuff.
Therefore your strongest argument is the 'logical assumption' you made earlier which is debatable at best.
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On September 11 2016 04:05 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:00 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no idea why because I can't identify any of Damdred's posts that make me feel this way, but I think Shapelog/TT would both be better lynches than Damdred.
I still fully expect Palmar to show up in some capacity before the deadline, and hopefully he can weigh in on what I've written about HF. My heart glitters as you mention my name. But on a serious side, grac I think sky is interesting he's usually so... closed with who he wants to lynch bit he has such a wide variety keeping,hi a options open. What do you think of this?
lol opportunism at best. Give me a clear lynch target for today ser Damdy.
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On September 11 2016 04:15 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:13 Skynx wrote:On September 11 2016 04:05 Damdred wrote:On September 11 2016 04:00 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no idea why because I can't identify any of Damdred's posts that make me feel this way, but I think Shapelog/TT would both be better lynches than Damdred.
I still fully expect Palmar to show up in some capacity before the deadline, and hopefully he can weigh in on what I've written about HF. My heart glitters as you mention my name. But on a serious side, grac I think sky is interesting he's usually so... closed with who he wants to lynch bit he has such a wide variety keeping,hi a options open. What do you think of this? lol opportunism at best. Give me a clear lynch target for today ser Damdy. Here's the thing we have a list (in my mind) of mostly lynched today and tt is probably the least bad and it's all,going to,be based on meta and strange posts. It would go like Tt Shape/super And then there is a wide gap and cal is super low, with grack and you to a lesser extent. The rest I either want to,ignore or think are town mostly
I mostly agree. TT, Shape, Super and Palmar are all plynches.
Whats bothering me and what I've been trying to say over last few pages is TT is not as good of a lynch as other 3 because he is TOTALLY afk. Rest have been posting with no content whatsoever.
Super just trolled and commented on setup for 3 entire pages of filter.
Palmar said he will just not read or post.
Shape posted walls of text that says nothing at all.
But we are tunnelling on 1 guy that is actually away while 3 people we have more data that reliably suggests that they did jack shit all game but no one even considers them.
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On September 11 2016 04:15 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:09 Skynx wrote:On September 11 2016 03:56 Holyflare wrote:On September 10 2016 09:58 Holyflare wrote:No it's actually not at all. A certain scum read on someone at the start of the game generates a million times more discussion than crap discussions about mechanics, it also helps me make reads on people such as Grack being mafia now and it let's me see who is keen on just skating by and ignoring it. It's a very strong opening. But in this case I actually do think that Ticktock is mafia because: On September 10 2016 09:40 Holyflare wrote:
Simple facts are:
TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff
TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing
But... he's not mafia? On September 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
This mindset is like someone coming in to the game and saying the following:
"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla."
or
"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>" On September 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
Specifically if you call a thing boring you don't normally want to be talking about it.
If you call a thing boring and that you haven't read it you're not going to be posting about it since people could have already made the exact same point and you're wasting your time.
If you call a thing boring and you haven't read it then you aren't going to make your only content filled post on the game about it either. On September 10 2016 10:19 Holyflare wrote:
My assumption, and it's a very logical assumption to make, is that he actually read/skimmed the entire thread and saw nobody made this point yet and as mafia found a way to look like he was contributing by posting "new information" since mafia love to blend and talk about mechanics.
Then all the other stuff I've posted about him too. On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
are you actually being fucking serious?
he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read:
a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset
b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said.
SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset.
Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia.
Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be. TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff
TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing So 1 meta, 1 shitposting, another meta, what u mean in 4th one i have no idea and one plynch argument. On September 09 2016 10:09 Tictock wrote:
Ending pg7.
The Setup stuff kinda bores me, but I should prob read through it eventually kus it sparked a bit of discussion. Kinda getting town feels from both of NU and Calix atm though.
My thoughts on Setup, the dead should make their own calls on how to use their powers and Last Wills are not that important since the dead can be just as wrong as anyone about stuff.
Basically the only setup thing that's important to living players imo is being able to see who the dead are voting for as that gives us insight into their thoughts. In general though it is best to approach this game as a straight all vanilla game with some potential information coming from dead players.
Seems we've got a fairly active game started up here. I'm gunna have to catchup more after dinner.So you are referring to him calling the setup boring but he should read it boils down to being illogical therefore he must be scum. You say you are assuming here, a very logical assumption. How logical it is to assume this whole thing is very weak? Your case is based on meta, shitposting, assumption and policy. 2 of those above can be applied to 4 I've mentioned earlier, they are essentially same with ticktock with exception that they actually posted stuff. Therefore your strongest argument is the 'logical assumption' you made earlier which is debatable at best. What you write makes 0 sense.
Your case is super super super weak.
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It's not even a case, you are just spamming the thread and somehow it convinced people that you have an actual case on TT.
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On September 11 2016 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
You vote tt or you don't and explain why.
Oddly enough i like grack and tumble for actually putting the effort to address it.
Cal has said that she actually liked the tt case but isn't voting tt because it had 3 votes and wifom that's horrible and you should lynch her next cycle likely.
Skyn js probably a good bet for mafia for continually being behind and when he's oosted something of substance on a topic he doesn't even know what he's talking about. He also town read me early in a super bad way, probably mafia.
Damd probably towny after all.
Palmar who the fuck knows but sheeping me is well smart.
Shape i didn't hate his posts vut disappeared super too but wouldn't surprise me if they were mafia.
Vivax underwhelming walls of text with hipster town reads and not enough crazy crap and also ignores damdred calling tt mafia for afk when he knows tt afks as town.
Too many mafia.
I dunno what to think of you this game when you sr me for being behind and not for defending TT.
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Town almost 100% of the time: NU, Calix, fuba, Tumble
[green]Soft townies: Vivax, Damdred, HF, Grack[green]
Rest can be killed with fire which one I don't really care they are all equally bad.
Soft townies have some good some bad posts, they are more town then nulls however due to nature of their posts when they are active but not super towns due to some wierd stuff.
Those 4 townies I listed above should move together.
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On September 11 2016 04:41 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:40 Skynx wrote:
Town almost 100% of the time: NU, Calix, fuba, Tumble
[green]Soft townies: Vivax, Damdred, HF, Grack[green]
Rest can be killed with fire which one I don't really care they are all equally bad.
Soft townies have some good some bad posts, they are more town then nulls however due to nature of their posts when they are active but not super towns due to some wierd stuff.
Those 4 townies I listed above should move together. We've played like 5 games together pls be specific on me
You can be killed today you haven't been amazing. If you really ask I think you tend to slip some way D1 as scum people tend to catch on it. This game you were more shitposting/afk that you didn't really have time to slip.
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On September 11 2016 04:44 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:41 Superbia wrote:On September 11 2016 04:40 Skynx wrote:
Town almost 100% of the time: NU, Calix, fuba, Tumble
[green]Soft townies: Vivax, Damdred, HF, Grack[green]
Rest can be killed with fire which one I don't really care they are all equally bad.
Soft townies have some good some bad posts, they are more town then nulls however due to nature of their posts when they are active but not super towns due to some wierd stuff.
Those 4 townies I listed above should move together. We've played like 5 games together pls be specific on me You can be killed today you haven't been amazing. If you really ask I think you tend to slip some way D1 as scum people tend to catch on it. This game you were more shitposting/afk that you didn't really have time to slip.
EBWOP
I mean you slip D1 as scum and its usually noticeable (people catch on it, not scum people)
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Anyway NU and Calix you guys are super townies, why Damdred is scum? We should work together and I'm fairly sure he's not scum so can we agree on some other target?
Same with Tumble and fuba what are your reasons for voting current targets?
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On September 11 2016 04:50 Calix wrote:
I fail to see how TT can possibly be scummier than Damdred who seems to talk about anything but scum-reads and has only sheeped onto a leading train and justified it with some bullshit abstract "scum COULD be bussing" reasoning (which has no basis in anything that's happened in the thread, thus this idea can NEVER be countered properly)
Also the fact that he commented on me calling him out the first time shows that he's checking the thread at least but doesn't care to comment on it even though we have 1 hour until EOD.
And the only arguments for him are "he can put in effort and he's a good player". Correct me if I missed some amazing defense of his posts so far but I doubt I have.
Can you quote some bad posts from Damdred?
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Tumble who is your lynch?
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On September 11 2016 04:58 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:55 Tumblewood wrote:
yo calix, Damdred's meta D1 as town is to try and form a town circle (and to a lesser extent all game). he is also a valuable townie because that is a useful strategy. His scum play has become really good. I won't lynch him D1 by default but I'm certainly still open to the idea of him being mafia. If he actually lynched mafia at some point ahead that would make things easier. HF and Palmar are roughly in the same category. The idea of the town circle is only as good as the town circle itself, so don't really see any grounds for this being a reason to TR Damdred.
The point is we're not lynching Damdred today. We need to form some sort of circle and decide on something.
Let's ignore Palmar cuz ppl don't want to lynch him, which of Super, Shape, TT you want to lynch most?
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Shape's filter is ever so slightly better than I originally anticipated, I'm voting TT.
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I can vote Super but he's here to defend himself at least, or he was. TT is actually giving a middle finger to this game.
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On September 11 2016 04:59 Calix wrote:
My laptop is slow when it comes to quoting so I'll just be giving numbers so I can keep up with the thread.
But 648 and 658 has him basically say "oh I have this town read, who wants to guess at what it is" and when NU gives an answer he says "lol no" but...doesn't actually say why he town-reads fuba for that post. Not a scum tell but baiting people with a read that you have when you're not doing it to get info is strange and not sure why he did that.
827 was also terrible because he was saying "there is no logical reason for town to defend TT" (which implies that anyone who does defend him is scum and reads like he was trying to deter me from doing so) especially the last line where he was like "well this particular thing could mean anything"
The rest of his filter is the WIFOM discussion and some 'townie bravado' posts.
None of this make him scum.
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Calix, if there is no obv scum plynches are ok D1. HF is trying to paint TT as scum but just ignore that its a plynch.
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I can switch Super he took a nosedive.
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On September 11 2016 05:28 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 05:26 Shapelog wrote:
I here. I been sick last night and today with a 101.9 fever.
Going try to catch as much as I can. How are you alive when the water on your body has boiled?
Vote worthy analysis if he hadn't meant Fahrenheits hihi
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