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On September 28 2016 01:31 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2016 01:06 Xatalos wrote:Ok, first there's this post: On September 24 2016 16:18 Skynx wrote:
Hmm Lunatic intro worst i guess.
Man i dont get why get this PL discussion every game. Its quite simple, odds are town barely have any info D1 to decide on a proper lynch, hence guy with 2 posts dies. Sometimes scum slip, or someone has incredible meta read confidence or w/e, then you dont't pl. Simple stuff. You could look at it as a Lunatic push, but it's really not. It's just a random comment with no follow-up or relevance whatsoever. Could be distancing, could be a genuine throwaway comment, nothing conclusive either way. It was just a forgotten line in a forgotten post. But after that he basically ignores everything Lunatic-related, only making these comments that can't be exactly called as anti-Lunatic: On September 25 2016 04:37 Skynx wrote:
What makes you so soure Stutters pr Lunatic? On September 26 2016 02:33 Skynx wrote:On September 26 2016 02:21 Xatalos wrote:
Well, actually there's also a third scenario, where he's town and simply messed up by making a blue read, including it in his read list for some reason (without specifically saying that he thought he was a blue) and then saying it out loud in the heat of the moment. I guess that's a bit more likely than the scenario #2 after all since he's a newbie... But scenario #1 seems the most credible one, I guess. Hm. Any opinions? Man I somehow feel like Luna is just misinformed town trying to cover up mistake of being lazy and saying he's blue. AND then there's the worst part: On September 26 2016 03:38 Skynx wrote:Fuck me actually i dont think I'll have any time at all  I'm an ok lynch if u guys feel like it sry i thought i'd have more time to play but im kinda moving houses and uni begins tomorrow. If not tho my top sr is DYH. His chain of questions few pages back really don't accomplish anything at all. It really looks like he's farming town points while doinh nothing. On September 25 2016 10:16 DoYouHas wrote:On September 25 2016 10:15 Jealous wrote:On September 25 2016 00:23 Lunaticman wrote:On September 24 2016 23:53 DanelerH wrote:I am not liking Lunaticman right now. First of all, basically all Lunatic has done is posted a random Town read. Let's take a look at it: On September 24 2016 16:38 Lunaticman wrote:On September 24 2016 16:18 Skynx wrote:
Hmm Lunatic intro worst i guess.
Man i dont get why get this PL discussion every game. Its quite simple, odds are town barely have any info D1 to decide on a proper lynch, hence guy with 2 posts dies. Sometimes scum slip, or someone has incredible meta read confidence or w/e, then you dont't pl. Simple stuff. Somehow I knew you would say that. I hope we can stay on friendly terms this time around but I doubt it. Stutters is so far the most obvious townie. I am a bit afraid of the logical development of this game. TL is filled with smarties that loves to talk the talk but always lynch the random dude that didnt sound smart. This will be the doom of us all I tell you, nobody can look more perfect then the mafia because they already know everything! This looks like the current meta afk townies and leading mafia for sure. This totally reminds me if the palmar/hf domination game check it out. Lunaticman just throws a random Town-read in the middle of a bunch of irrelevant information. Furthermore, xe doesn't give any reasoning for the Town-read. When asked about it, xe responded with this series of posts: On September 24 2016 20:07 Lunaticman wrote:On September 24 2016 19:29 Rels wrote:On September 24 2016 18:13 Lunaticman wrote:
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Stutters is obvious town for me at least, I can understand why you wouldn't notice but I have played with him 4 times in a row and I'm pretty sure he is town. Please explain Well I don't want to day 1 because of reasons to be disclosed at a later date. He is not going to be lynched today at the very least. On September 24 2016 20:49 Lunaticman wrote:On September 24 2016 20:27 Rels wrote:On September 24 2016 20:07 Lunaticman wrote:
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Well I don't want to day 1 because of reasons to be disclosed at a later date. He is not going to be lynched today at the very least.
I'll remember that. This "I promise I have ghood reasons" comes more often from scum than from town though. That is just speculation and if you were town you wouldn't force me to say why I have a town read. On September 24 2016 21:20 Lunaticman wrote:On September 24 2016 20:51 Rels wrote:On September 24 2016 20:49 Lunaticman wrote:
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That is just speculation and if you were town you wouldn't force me to say why I have a town read. Why woudln't I do such a thing ? So apparently you think I'm scum ? No I didn't say that you are scum I just find it suspect why I have to tell you why I town read him even though I don't want to yet. There is no reason not to give your reasoning for a Town-read. I want to know why you think Shutters is Town and I will not accept "I'll tell you later" as an answer. The game is 4 pages long day one, take a chill pill. I dare to say I have done more than half the players in the game and in my experience you never hit mafia day one. It is much better to build a town circle. Also Stutters is in all likelyhood a blue role. And if he dies it is on you and Rels. Am I crazy for thinking this is an anti town post? Making Stutters out to be blue role with no nuance is downright retarded. It is absolutely anti-town. Do you think it is bad play or scum? On September 25 2016 10:53 DoYouHas wrote:
So is it bad enough that you would want to lynch him or do you currently have a stronger scum read on someone else currently? I mean these supposed to make it look like he's pressuring Jealous for explanations but he sort of responds and nothing from DYH regarding his stance on Luna. Then he switches to SEQ, stating bunch of thoughts which actually doesn't say anything. On September 25 2016 11:02 DoYouHas wrote:On September 25 2016 10:56 Stutters695 wrote:On September 25 2016 10:11 DoYouHas wrote:
I am around Stutters. What are your thoughts on ptmc? I'll trade you for some on SEQ. I don't think ptmc is a better lynch before SEQ gets to respond. Voting me with his focus on Luna is super weird also. SEQ does not bother me much at all. He reads like he jumped in with both feet and started rooting around. The line you bolded would be weak reasoning if he had actually gone after Xata or spread suspicion on him, but I don't think he did. He moves on pretty quickly and after talking about mafia in a pretty general sense (not unusual for someone new to forum mafia, especially with Jealous getting into it too) he seems to be scumhunting. You have picked a pretty early statement from him that does not, to me, hold the significance you are assigning it. Like there is not a final verdict, he says he doesnt bother him then bunch of thoughts filling the air and thats it. On September 25 2016 11:35 DoYouHas wrote:On September 25 2016 11:29 Stutters695 wrote:On September 25 2016 11:02 DoYouHas wrote:On September 25 2016 10:56 Stutters695 wrote:On September 25 2016 10:11 DoYouHas wrote:
I am around Stutters. What are your thoughts on ptmc? I'll trade you for some on SEQ. I don't think ptmc is a better lynch before SEQ gets to respond. Voting me with his focus on Luna is super weird also. SEQ does not bother me much at all. He reads like he jumped in with both feet and started rooting around. The line you bolded would be weak reasoning if he had actually gone after Xata or spread suspicion on him, but I don't think he did. He moves on pretty quickly and after talking about mafia in a pretty general sense (not unusual for someone new to forum mafia, especially with Jealous getting into it too) he seems to be scumhunting. You have picked a pretty early statement from him that does not, to me, hold the significance you are assigning it. All of his statements are from around that time. Not to mention the apologetic/cautious nature. Just kind of screams first time scum to me. I want to see what you are seeing. I think you are likely town. Can you walk me through it like I'm an idiot? Where is his apologetic/cautious nature evident? This is kinda more evident of all tho, when he pushes Jealous for avoiding answering questions and he himself disappeara after this kind of questioning. Yeh my top lynch target i guess, all of this above feels like activity for sake of activity to me. Thats best i can do from phone guys, sory for being afk so far this game Hopefully i can pick it up later on. This post is basically saying just "lynch me or DYH". Nothing about Lunatic at this point. It would make a lot of sense if Skynx was just a Mafia Goon or something and it would suck to lose the Roleblocker, so it would be even better to kill himself than Lunatic? Naturally he votes for DYH though. I guess this means DYH and Skynx probably aren't scum together though. But nothing really makes Skynx town and a lot of things fit with him being Lunatic's partner. 1) Mostly ignoring Lunatic-related events in the thread. 2) No real stance on him except slight reluctance to lynch him. 3) Ultimately preferring to even lynch himself over Lunatic....? Moving on.... My dear Xatalos, 1) You are accusing me of ignoring Lunatic-related events when you're the one trying to shut down blue discussion the moment it started. 2) The WORST PART: You are implying me focussing some one else than scum makes me scum, however half the game is now scumreading DYH. Even Rels of all people who initially tought it was bs. Do you think DYH is town in this case? Do you think my reads on DYH is bullshit? If you not, how does having a logical case on someone else when another mafia dies makes me scum? 3) Mafia 100000% busses here, i don't even have to explain this. Lunatic was unsaveable, he slipped. 4) That post is not saying "lynch me or DYH". I was offski most of D1 so town would be rightfull to lynch me so it was me showing some activity in the short amount of time I had. I made my stance about Luna earlier as u quoted, no need to repeat in every post something Luna related because he flipped scum. 5) Your entire strategy suggesting me sacrificing myself for Luna I have no idea how someone can see that here. So I was afk on purpose to save my scumbuddy on EoD by suggesting myself as a policy lynch??? 6) So the whole thing is mostly associative that now Super is dead and Luna is scum and I'm the only off-wagon. Nice try. Verdict: Scum This is not a push town would make. He's basically invalid and wrong about every point made and reaching conclusions that are totally irrelevant to what he quotes as a reasoning. Big up tho, you made my life easier cuz now i don't have to check your filter to conclude you're highly likely scum.
On September 28 2016 01:57 Tictock wrote:Well I'm still a bit behind, but I did get through D1 and I might as well post this now. I think Xatalos is scum. Reading through the game I had the distinct impression that he waited as long as possible to discuss Lunatic, and when he did was always very wishy-washy about it. This was the post that first made me raise an eyebrow. Show nested quote +On September 24 2016 22:14 Xatalos wrote:On September 24 2016 08:26 DanelerH wrote:On September 24 2016 08:21 Jealous wrote:On September 24 2016 08:19 Stutters695 wrote:On September 24 2016 08:04 Xatalos wrote:
Unfortunately, looks like you can't vote for yourself in this setup :/ To everyone else, this is why we should lynch him today. He's always one step ahead, we'll never catch him. On a more serious note, how does everyone feel about going with the scummiest of the inevitable inactives? Activity always seems to be a struggle in these games and I won't be lynchbait for once. I'm usually pro-PL but it's too early to make such a decision. We need to see how others are posting. It's odd that you suggest this so early. This, plus there's Shutter's first post: On September 24 2016 07:46 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm here and not scum. How disappointing.
Anyway, as it stands I'd be all for a d1 Xata lynch. Pretty sure he's fooled me like the last 3 times he's been mafia and that's no good.
It's not technically a role claim, but it's certainly something unnecessary to say. Why would your first sentence be the equivalent of "I'm not a Mafia."? While it's nothing definite, it seems rather odd to me. Probably the worst post in the game so far (and definitely the worst of the opening posts). It's a wishy-washy suspicion riding on already existing suspicions. Pretty much the safest possible suspicion to make as scum, and leaves you with plenty of options to proceed (vote for him if it gains steam or forget it if not). Even the tone is so passive and uninvolved.. This was well after Lunatic's entrance and after he had fallen under some pressure. I suppose part of this is simply a "What game is he reading?" sort of reaction because this was far from any of the posts that I found interesting. What really struck me though was that this post implied that Xat had caught-up with the game, but besides asking Rel's his opinion and talking about blues there is literally no mention of Lunatic's posts until here. Which is especially Ironic given Xat was just accusing Skynx of having "no real stance on Lunatic events?" and that was literally my first thought about him while reading. It's worth noting his later posts as he decides to vote Lunatic as well. + Show Spoiler +Sorry not 100% these are in order, these start on pg 3 of Xata's filter On September 25 2016 21:05 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2016 17:20 Calix wrote:
Actually Lunatic looks like a better lynch with how he's reacting to the pitiful amount of pressure he's getting and aside from "over-reacts to pressure and is making bad posts out of frustration" I'm confused as to why he's acting like this in the first place. I haven't seen anything explicitly townie from him either.
Anyway, he says he's one of the more productive players - if that's productive then this game is a spam-fest. He also claims he's building a town circle which I have yet to see on both points. (his weird-ass town-read on Stutters doesn't count) I recall him saying he was going to investigate the first few posters or something - has he followed up on that?
With regards to TPR-hunting, again, that's anti-town because scum would just post their TPR-reads into their private chat. It's also insanely retarded to do as town and if Lunatic thought that Stutters was blue then he should have just defended Stutters using his posts to avoid this. I have no idea what he was trying to achieve there but I guarantee that the execution was terrible.
This read is shit because a lot of his actions require a crapload of WIFOM to decipher. His mindset doesn't make any bloody sense to me and I don't see a coherent explanation for his actions for town or scum, so I'd like to clear that up.
This reasoning is similar with Daneler to an extent as I am finding him difficult to place. However he is less disruptive to the chat compared to Lunatic. Yeah, that whole situation seems pretty stupid from any perspective. No reason to out a blue read in any form as town (even in the form of a non-reasoned strong town read -> pretty obviously a blue read), but no reason to start talking about that as scum either (just putting negative attention on himself for no reason). I guess it was some panic decision under pressure. Maybe leaning scum after all because why would he panic so much as town under a little pressure? Hmmm. Well, let's say he would be a lynch candidate, definitely over Stutter. On September 25 2016 21:10 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2016 18:23 Lunaticman wrote:
I wonder how not wanting to state a read because it will reveal a blue role is equal towards being mafia. The reason for not saying anything is because that is based o information town dont want mafia to know.
This game is just full of paragraf knights. I told you why I didnt want to say my SINGLE read and I got forced. Saying I wasnt forced is a lie.
And when I do say why Im a coward, so either way Im scum. And that dosent even make sense.
It is also intresting to see that town once again town reads the people with most posts as town.
Remember that mafia always sound smater and better because they know who is mafia and are working with perfect information.
Lastly I yet to see a day one lynch of a mafia player so anything that happens day one usually is just speculation.
My time is precious this weekend the little spare time I have not working is spent defending myself. I dont really have time to do what I want which is identify townies and lookig for mafia in the top posters day one.
A good example is my last normal game in which I found the gf day one and was unsuccessful in lynching him 3 days in a row because the mafia undermined me constantly. But why did you say that Stutter was a strong town read in the first place without any reasoning? Isn't that the same as claiming that he's potentially a blue in your opinion (from scum perspective)? Granted, it could also be a complicated meta reason or something, but having a blue read is often the reason if someone doesn't want to say his reasons for a read. And then why reveal the blue read so quickly anyway under a bit of pressure? It's just... pretty much a disastrous chain of events, especially if you're town and correct. It's also disastrous if you're scum, so... Just why? On September 25 2016 21:15 Xatalos wrote:
On second thoughts, I can think of two potential scenarios where those events would make some sense. I think the scum scenario makes a bit more sense, given that he's a newbie. I'll wait a bit more before saying them out loud. On September 25 2016 23:39 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2016 23:26 Lunaticman wrote:On September 25 2016 21:10 Xatalos wrote:On September 25 2016 18:23 Lunaticman wrote:
I wonder how not wanting to state a read because it will reveal a blue role is equal towards being mafia. The reason for not saying anything is because that is based o information town dont want mafia to know.
This game is just full of paragraf knights. I told you why I didnt want to say my SINGLE read and I got forced. Saying I wasnt forced is a lie.
And when I do say why Im a coward, so either way Im scum. And that dosent even make sense.
It is also intresting to see that town once again town reads the people with most posts as town.
Remember that mafia always sound smater and better because they know who is mafia and are working with perfect information.
Lastly I yet to see a day one lynch of a mafia player so anything that happens day one usually is just speculation.
My time is precious this weekend the little spare time I have not working is spent defending myself. I dont really have time to do what I want which is identify townies and lookig for mafia in the top posters day one.
A good example is my last normal game in which I found the gf day one and was unsuccessful in lynching him 3 days in a row because the mafia undermined me constantly. But why did you say that Stutter was a strong town read in the first place without any reasoning? Isn't that the same as claiming that he's potentially a blue in your opinion (from scum perspective)? Granted, it could also be a complicated meta reason or something, but having a blue read is often the reason if someone doesn't want to say his reasons for a read. And then why reveal the blue read so quickly anyway under a bit of pressure? It's just... pretty much a disastrous chain of events, especially if you're town and correct. It's also disastrous if you're scum, so... Just why? So you don't have hunches? I'm just saying nothing that has been said today has been nothing but speculation and you are accusing me of not giving reasons? God ok I'll play your game: Stutters is town because I have a meta read on him. Satisified? "No, how can you know that?" "Because I played with him before" "Really explain!" On and on this goes. the TL mafia community really has a hard time dealing with people playing emotionally rather than using logic. I'm probably not going to respond to anything related to my first town read anymore. It feels like beating a dead horse. Wasn't it a blue read earlier....? On September 26 2016 02:16 Xatalos wrote:
Huh. Yeah, I wanted to see some more posts before revealing my thoughts on Lunatic, but doesn't seem like anyone is really posting...
So here are the two scenarios that I could imagine earlier:
1) Scum: He was trying to gain some easy credibility by pointing out a town read based on actual reasoning (blue read on Stutters after bluehunting him, as scum tend to bluehunt more often than town). Then he went into a bit of a panic after he got pressured for not reasoning his read and immediately claimed the blue read, which doesn't make much sense as town, but makes a bit more sense as scum since he wanted to relieve the pressure on him ASAP. In hindsight the play was a mistake (claiming Stutters was town without saying the reason), but it would make some sense from scum perspective at the time of doing it, especially since he's a newbie.
2) Town: Actually it was all a big WIFOM play as town to gather reactions and confuse scum bluehunting. However, this seems less likely since he's a newbie and still hasn't claimed anything of this sort despite lengthy posting on the topic.
So all things considered, him being scum makes quite a bit more sense IMO. On September 26 2016 02:21 Xatalos wrote:
Well, actually there's also a third scenario, where he's town and simply messed up by making a blue read, including it in his read list for some reason (without specifically saying that he thought he was a blue) and then saying it out loud in the heat of the moment. I guess that's a bit more likely than the scenario #2 after all since he's a newbie... But scenario #1 seems the most credible one, I guess. Hm. Any opinions? On September 26 2016 02:25 Xatalos wrote:
Meh, not totally sure, but I think he still seems a bit worse than DanelerH atm.
As for others, can't say I've found anything especially suspicious otherwise. Stutters' thing against Soul still confuses me. As for Jealous, I guess he could be scum, he's been pretty passive/blendy, but nothing really jumps out as scummy from him that I've noticed. There is a lot there, the stuff that I noticed was just how hard of a time Xata had calling Luna scum, he seems like he really wants to try and defend him in some of these posts, yet just can't quite do it. It reads exactly to me like a mafia who realizes he needs to bus and over-elaborates theread on his mate. It's weaker, but I also get the distinct impression that around the time of the quote from the top of this post (around pg 14) that Xata was kinda drawing attention away from what was some mounting pressure on Lunatic. That might be a bit of confirmation bias there though.
On the other hand these are very, very good.
I want to kill both.
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On September 28 2016 18:34 Tictock wrote:
Anyways I'm only sortof around atm. I think I basically read everything but I'll take one last look to be sure, might also start skimming some filters.
I'm thinking a DYH lynch is probably the best lynch today, I still think Xat is scum as well but I need to check a few things and tbh he is at least staying fairly active so he can live another day.
None of what he did with his activity was townie though
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I want to respond to your Stutters thing but I'm leaving for lunch. I'll do it after that because to me he's either confirmed town or scum depending on how this game develops, unless I misread something
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On September 28 2016 21:32 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2016 18:51 Rels wrote:
I want to respond to your Stutters thing but I'm leaving for lunch. I'll do it after that because to me he's either confirmed town or scum depending on how this game develops, unless I misread something "He is either town or scum, I am not sure yet." - Welcome to the club. If this is because of the Lunatic thing, this is why reads based on external factors are inferior 95% of the time. Just use his posts.
I really disagree, I'm 100% with TT here. Stutters is very likely to have been spewed town by Lunatic.
My "confirmed town or scum" thing is wrong. I thought Stutters kinda claimed a role in these posts:
On September 26 2016 23:47 Stutters695 wrote:
Just woke up. You guys aren't lynching me d2 lol.
On September 27 2016 00:01 Stutters695 wrote:
Here's what's going to happen. I'm going to type some stuff up. Usually I would wait until EoD, but I work before then so I'll just throw it out. You guys will be like "wow, he does things and they make some sense, this dude is probably town." Just know you're cutting into my Overwatch time and that makes me sad.
I have 100% confidence I won't be lynched.
but rereading them it is not the case. I thought he said "I'm 100% sure I won't die this game", but he actually said "I'm 100% sure I won't be lynched".
My thought was that Stutters was vet, thus with the roleblocker gone there was no way for him to be killed at night, and with his claim he couldn't be killed by lynch either; and that was why he was so sure he wouldn't die this game.
But I remembered his sentence wrong.
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On September 29 2016 02:48 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2016 02:44 Tictock wrote:On September 29 2016 02:38 Xatalos wrote:
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Voted for Lunatic, but otherwise ???
I refuse to believe you have literally no read on me. That was just the part about D1 interactions with Lunatic. Although I'm not really sure about you either, yet. I'll take a closer look after I'm back after a bit of AFKing
Weird post. You're defending against TT's attack by saying your post was only about a certain part of the game; yet your read on him is actually null so he's actually right.
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On September 29 2016 04:27 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2016 04:24 Xatalos wrote:On September 29 2016 04:22 Rels wrote:On September 29 2016 02:48 Xatalos wrote:On September 29 2016 02:44 Tictock wrote:On September 29 2016 02:38 Xatalos wrote:
SEQ/Tictock
Voted for Lunatic, but otherwise ???
I refuse to believe you have literally no read on me. That was just the part about D1 interactions with Lunatic. Although I'm not really sure about you either, yet. I'll take a closer look after I'm back after a bit of AFKing Weird post. You're defending against TT's attack by saying your post was only about a certain part of the game; yet your read on him is actually null so he's actually right. Just corrected him because he directly quoted my comment about SEQ's D1 stuff. Besides, I'll point out that no read != nullread.
TT sentence is literally "I refuse to believe you have literally no read on me."
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On September 29 2016 04:37 Xatalos wrote:
Rels, what do you even think of Skynx?
I think he's town. I can follow his entire train of thought for D2 and I believe it is real.
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I'm here but my vote is not moving unless DYH magically becomes extremely townie
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On September 29 2016 05:19 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2016 05:16 Rels wrote:
I'm here but my vote is not moving unless DYH magically becomes extremely townie Hm. Shenanigans are always fun, don't you agree?
Fun, yeah. Efficient, not really.
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Stutters posting on the other thread but showing no sign of activity here is fucking weird
Maybe it is DYH / Stutters and they have given up
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On September 29 2016 05:29 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2016 05:26 Tictock wrote:On September 29 2016 05:17 Xatalos wrote:At least you read it  To be fair I did read your WoT, or most of it. I just thought the majority of it was crap. The reads feel a bit off, like Rels should be much more obv town based on his pressure on Lunatic. I obv disagree about Skynx. The whole team thing is just bad imo. I'd probably be willing to write it off as a bad approach but the way you use the team stuff to throw out DYH feels off to me. Meh, I don't think Rels receives a complete town pass from that. He did question Lunatic, but didn't really pursue it, and he was like the fourth or fifth on his wagon? Not really a main cause of his death IMO, although he participated. Off?
I was the one who started the wagon. Not by vote but by pressuring Lunatic into giving up.
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I dont like all these reads that DYH is giving. It feels like he thought about what is the best way to read the game then found the words to write. It doesn't feel authentic
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On September 29 2016 06:06 Calix wrote:
Not sure what you mean by 'best way to read the game'. Aside from the swath of town-reads, a lot of his thoughts seem outdated to me because they talk primarily about D1 events. I don't think he's read D2 properly, if at all. That's what I got from them so far.
I mean I think he's scum that decided to tryhard and decided who he was going to rtead what alignment before doing his posts
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On September 29 2016 06:21 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2016 06:11 DoYouHas wrote:On September 29 2016 06:08 Tictock wrote:
DYH, why are we getting these reads 2 at a time? Iunno, gets em out faster but in 5 posts instead of 10? Because I am, that's why. Next 2 are harder. I haven't paid much attention to skynx or scott this game. Like it's weird that you are putting out thoughts on 2 ppl at a time when you are just typing these one after another. You say you haven't paid attn to scott of skynx this game but basically you have to think one of the two of them is scum or else your reads are pretty meaningless. Also you had Skynx as town in a list post before so obv you had thoughts on him at one point.
This is true. Would like some expansion on that
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On September 29 2016 06:27 DoYouHas wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2016 06:23 Jealous wrote:On September 29 2016 06:11 DoYouHas wrote:On September 29 2016 06:08 Tictock wrote:
DYH, why are we getting these reads 2 at a time? Iunno, gets em out faster but in 5 posts instead of 10? Because I am, that's why. Next 2 are harder. I haven't paid much attention to skynx or scott this game. "Hey guys, I haven't read half of the game and I haven't really paid any attention to these posters, but here's my opinion." ![[image loading]](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_E9NPoeLuzC4/SBduCiDE-sI/AAAAAAAAAMM/ChOEeq0pFsc/s320/miss-south-carolina-2007-teen-pageant.jpg) This is an extremely odd thing to say to your #1 scum read on the eve of his flip.
Why ? It is pretty true
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On September 29 2016 06:34 DoYouHas wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2016 06:24 Calix wrote:
Actually I have one question. DYH, who are you going to vote for and why? Don't spend ages on answering this, lol. ##Vote: ScottI've been thinking about Superbia's kill. There are 4 reasons I can think of for it. 1. Medic dodge. 2. Town is off track, didn't want a fresh vet voice changing things 3. Superbia is on right track 4. WIFOM salad #1 is obviously the case. With their RB gone they aren't going to target Calix (most townread person N1). #2 is iffy. Obviously taking out a fresh voice in Superbia accomplishes this, but he isn't heavily townread and he has stated repeatedly that he was going to be lazy this game. #3 is the most likely case. After losing your RB the first night you can't risk someone with correct suspicions putting you down 0-2. Most common reason to kill someone, also makes the most sense from the mafia perspective this game. #4 is very unlikely. There are too many people who have established themselves decently as town, too many people more productive than Superbia.
By 3, Xata would also be likely scum no ?
Can you answer why you claim you have no previous Skynx read when you actually had one ?
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On September 29 2016 06:40 Jealous wrote:
I'm starting to WIFOM over the fact that DYH showed up just before EoD when the train is on him. Like, would a scum normally do this? I don't think I would lol. The reason it's WIFOM is because maybe he is trying to make people doubt his scumminess last second and shenanie? I'm locked in but I'll feel a little bad about it if he flips town ):
??? Of course a scum would do that. If you have a hard time to care as scum it is the absolute best time to try to change the lynch on someone else.
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On September 29 2016 06:45 DoYouHas wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2016 06:40 Rels wrote:On September 29 2016 06:34 DoYouHas wrote:On September 29 2016 06:24 Calix wrote:
Actually I have one question. DYH, who are you going to vote for and why? Don't spend ages on answering this, lol. ##Vote: ScottI've been thinking about Superbia's kill. There are 4 reasons I can think of for it. 1. Medic dodge. 2. Town is off track, didn't want a fresh vet voice changing things 3. Superbia is on right track 4. WIFOM salad #1 is obviously the case. With their RB gone they aren't going to target Calix (most townread person N1). #2 is iffy. Obviously taking out a fresh voice in Superbia accomplishes this, but he isn't heavily townread and he has stated repeatedly that he was going to be lazy this game. #3 is the most likely case. After losing your RB the first night you can't risk someone with correct suspicions putting you down 0-2. Most common reason to kill someone, also makes the most sense from the mafia perspective this game. #4 is very unlikely. There are too many people who have established themselves decently as town, too many people more productive than Superbia. By 3, Xata would also be likely scum no ? Can you answer why you claim you have no previous Skynx read when you actually had one ? By 3, Xata hadn't pressured Scott much at all pre-EON iirc. So no, Xata isn't in the same boat. I'm racing the clock, short on sleep, and not fact checking myself. Huzzah, my read now agrees with my read before.
I don't believe you. Sorry if you're town but I think you're scum. In particular, the way you just HAD to make a read on everyone just screams "FABRICATED".
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On September 29 2016 06:51 Calix wrote:
The whole lack of a survival instinct thing was giving me pause because scum are more likely to vote for any opposing wagon so that they live, but that could be a strategy for CFD possibilities as said earlier and you're right, your lynch is the best move atm.
Whats CFD ?
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