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On September 01 2016 07:03 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 06:30 Vivax wrote:
you were semi afk, tumble only defended himself, palmar pushed for geript. all within mafia behaciour boumdaries.
and koshi is town cause gut feeling. is he your suspect trfel?
on phone btw I don't know about Koshi yet, I'm hoping to perform the amazing feat of reading his filter today. I personally don't have much reason to townread him (or that much reason to scumread him) without reading his filter, but I know that a lot of people are very confident that Koshi is town, and I'm not sure why. Activity certainly is a possible argument, but I was under the impression that Koshi is also quite active as mafia, so I don't know.
From my experience koshi just shuts down as mafia. He only won last game hiding behind mechanics easily. Had to carry him last time I was mafia with him, can't remember the name of the game though but it's in my profile.
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Also super wifom but I don't think the mafia team may be comprised of very good/active people because that disfo cop claim looked really fake to me and I'm not dead (but surprise surprise palmar is pushing me)
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I will lynch any of palmar/ticktock today. I don't think much has changed for me to be honest, dane looking a but townier with the last post, scott falling off the face of the earth makes me contemplate joining the wagon of purity. I mean one of his posts was just a list post that wasn't even a list, more vote count colouring. Will read into him more.
Uhhh, still anti anything palmar says obviously :D
Like, there's a roughly 0% chance palmar joins a tw wagon and likes koshi's case but doesn't realise i made it first and he's sheeping me but ignores that and says I've done nothing :D
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Not sure what Vivax even thinks about geript. He talked to Palmar about geript but never took a stance about it himself. All super weak stuff.
Genuinely interested in this vivax please enlighten me.
On September 01 2016 06:07 scott31337 wrote:
There goes an extra lynch too
Also little things like this throw me off. Maybe it's just me but I never pay attention to how many extra lynches we have.
Also Scott now is the time, my body is ready, enlighten us with your spreadsheet plz.
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The thing I really don't like about Koshi, is why is he so confident about scott31337 being town?
I looked through Koshi's filter, and I didn't see any reasons that he gave that scott31337 is town. Koshi said that he built a town case on scott31337, so I missed it (please link?), but I'm not seeing anything.
I also saw where Koshi said that he doesn't think that scott31337 is mafia but he really could be. Since then, scott31337 has not done anything worth townreading him for (in my opinion anyway), but Koshi's become far more confident in scott31337 being town, for seemingly no reason. If anything, the vote count analysis makes scott31337 look scummier IMO, not townier.
So this really confuses me.
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On September 01 2016 09:22 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +Not sure what Vivax even thinks about geript. He talked to Palmar about geript but never took a stance about it himself. All super weak stuff. Genuinely interested in this vivax please enlighten me. Also little things like this throw me off. Maybe it's just me but I never pay attention to how many extra lynches we have. Also Scott now is the time, my body is ready, enlighten us with your spreadsheet plz.
It's more like I talked towards Palmar about it cause he never replies to what I write. For which I will gladly lynch him given the chance (besides that I think he's mafia).
My stance on geript is that I found inconsistencies, but so did I about scott and sometimes townies are inconsistent too. I've pushed enough people over an incosistency to watch them flip town to my dismay.
For scott I posted an entire wall of text that seems to me like textbook mafia play comparing him to an actual mafia, for geript I didn't. I simply found the part that looked like it didn't make sense to me. For scott I have a much more confident opinion cause I feel like I didn't find a single argument, but savoured his entire filter enough to let me believe he's mafia.
I'm still in the TW/Palmar/scott world, where geript MIGHT be mafia instead of Palmar. But I'm not going anywhere before we lynch scott.
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On September 01 2016 09:32 Trfel wrote:
The thing I really don't like about Koshi, is why is he so confident about scott31337 being town?
I looked through Koshi's filter, and I didn't see any reasons that he gave that scott31337 is town. Koshi said that he built a town case on scott31337, so I missed it (please link?), but I'm not seeing anything.
I also saw where Koshi said that he doesn't think that scott31337 is mafia but he really could be. Since then, scott31337 has not done anything worth townreading him for (in my opinion anyway), but Koshi's become far more confident in scott31337 being town, for seemingly no reason. If anything, the vote count analysis makes scott31337 look scummier IMO, not townier.
So this really confuses me.
You're just the hero I deserved. The shitty part about this game is that if you start making inquiries about people who suspect you, they start calling you a discreditor or dismiss all you write as omgus (disfo being the best example). I even admit to suspecting people who throw scum at me almost instinctively, which is why my play is the weakest when a lot of people suspect me. It just creates too many distractions for me to handle.
Sure I could just not give a fuck and do it anyway but I've learned that it mostly hurts my already not very popular opinions. So while I do my scott thing you do this Koshi thing and we're gucci.
Hope you enjoyed this post of self-awareness. Scum surely can learn something from it when it comes to tilting me.
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A bit of my possibly biased take on scott not voting to save himself. This is really just semi-useful cause it won't give us any non-speculative leads, but I'm in a talkative mood.
1. He was afraid of looking badly switching to Rels.
2. Being mafia with tumble, he was hoping on harvesting some cred later after TW would flip. "oh look hes the only guy on mafia at EoD"
Either way, scott is a top tier lynch.
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Lol why do you think i force people to call me town? It's so I can concentrate and not get distracted. Hence mafia palmar trying to tilt me into an argument to fit his "meta" crap post he posted earlier about me.
Basically the people that are mafia this game are the ones that are just calling me mafia-ish with no real conviction and leaving the door open for later (ticktock) and the guy with no real conviction to lynch anyone and calls me mafia for what reason exactly? which is not normal (palmar)
+probably scott but maybe not but probably
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I hate that EoD analysis is so unreliable to form reads. When I read TW that seems to be magically townread now I could bring up a shitton of things that might make him mafia, but given he was under such pressure no matter his alignment he literally was doing anything he could, without boundaries or concerns for his own appeareance.
He votes scott briefly right after townreading him and geript (to save himself), and when EVERYONE ELSE already switched to Rels, he switches with them.
Who does he switch with? With his scumreads Koshi and HF from that time.
It's such a bad looking play that I'd have vigged him given the chance but since it wasn't really a standard situation I don't feel like I can be very confident using this.
On September 01 2016 09:57 Holyflare wrote:
Lol why do you think i force people to call me town? It's so I can concentrate and not get distracted. Hence mafia palmar trying to tilt me into an argument to fit his "meta" crap post he posted earlier about me.
Basically the people that are mafia this game are the ones that are just calling me mafia-ish with no real conviction and leaving the door open for later (ticktock) and the guy with no real conviction to lynch anyone and calls me mafia for what reason exactly? which is not normal (palmar)
+probably scott but maybe not but probably
Idk geript had a point when he said that it looks like TT is having fun playing the game. And I don't quite see him being the first person to call me mafia.
If you really only go by that logic you're admitting to being fully omgus driven.
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I don't know why I stay up so late for this game every night zzzzz
As a side note about koshi i always find he says unintelligible shit that doesn't make sense but turns out to be right somehow in the long run. He's kind of a more coherent sicklucker that can actually spell words.
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Also I don't get that TT read at all. I'll admit to having not read his filter until now but it's not particularly great and full of insight in the slightest vivax?
He basically did nothing for 2 pages and ended up sheeping Palmar's rels vote which was crap anyway and then into generic list post while giving out free town reads into doing the scummiest vote switch I've seen.
If you think scott is mafia then tt is with Scott 9/10 times. He looks pretty scummy imo.
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Yea my TT read is probably lazy and shit but I like my current team too much. Nobody can compete with TW and scott in terms of scumminess atm and there's just too much wench and glory to be had in correctly scumreading Palmar who does look like scum.
Koshi even spelled it out pretty well, why Palmar is mafia. Additionally, the soft bus from TW and scott and the fact that Palmar seems to ignore everything they do even though he voted TW earlier (and it was too late for it to be a Palmar troll-vote) seals the deal for me.
With this I think I'll peace out, every time I'm here I'm feeling like I'm talking to a wall with exception of HF. In the earlier days threads resonated like crazy *mumble mumble*
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That's because people have forgotten how to play mafia and play like crap solo players instead.
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I'll think about it tomorrow nn
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Also because it was bugging me and I didn't think it was right I don't think tw scum read me? He definitely said he hadn't read any of my posts.
Regardless, his emotional outburst crap seemed pretty genuine to me like obviously it can be faked in desperation but his structure to it was more like fuck me I'm lost than i need to survive by yelling. And voting rels wasn't an awful vote at the time tbh.
(tt looks bad because of what he said around the lynch and his actions not adding up which imo is far more of a slam dunk, 100% so if scott is mafia)
Scott you're super key to this game btw. I want spreadsheet revealing I want walls of text explaining how the lynch went down from your perspective. I want insight please.
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But the pussy pusj on palmar right after the lynch from tw into afking when palmar can get pushed/is getting called out is zzzz
Too many ? players that aren't doing anything to fill in the gaps.
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On September 01 2016 09:43 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 09:32 Trfel wrote:
The thing I really don't like about Koshi, is why is he so confident about scott31337 being town?
I looked through Koshi's filter, and I didn't see any reasons that he gave that scott31337 is town. Koshi said that he built a town case on scott31337, so I missed it (please link?), but I'm not seeing anything.
I also saw where Koshi said that he doesn't think that scott31337 is mafia but he really could be. Since then, scott31337 has not done anything worth townreading him for (in my opinion anyway), but Koshi's become far more confident in scott31337 being town, for seemingly no reason. If anything, the vote count analysis makes scott31337 look scummier IMO, not townier.
So this really confuses me. You're just the hero I deserved. The shitty part about this game is that if you start making inquiries about people who suspect you, they start calling you a discreditor or dismiss all you write as omgus (disfo being the best example). I even admit to suspecting people who throw scum at me almost instinctively, which is why my play is the weakest when a lot of people suspect me. It just creates too many distractions for me to handle. Sure I could just not give a fuck and do it anyway but I've learned that it mostly hurts my already not very popular opinions. So while I do my scott thing you do this Koshi thing and we're gucci. Hope you enjoyed this post of self-awareness. Scum surely can learn something from it when it comes to tilting me.
This post has townie feels or you just changed your "meta" so much that I've read before, fuck it man.
I'm going back to watching Trump's speech though in my home town.
##Unvote
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On September 01 2016 09:14 Holyflare wrote:
I will lynch any of palmar/ticktock today. I don't think much has changed for me to be honest, dane looking a but townier with the last post, scott falling off the face of the earth makes me contemplate joining the wagon of purity. I mean one of his posts was just a list post that wasn't even a list, more vote count colouring. Will read into him more.
Uhhh, still anti anything palmar says obviously :D
Like, there's a roughly 0% chance palmar joins a tw wagon and likes koshi's case but doesn't realise i made it first and he's sheeping me but ignores that and says I've done nothing :D
Tell me more about the wagon of purity.
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On September 01 2016 10:03 Vivax wrote:I hate that EoD analysis is so unreliable to form reads. When I read TW that seems to be magically townread now I could bring up a shitton of things that might make him mafia, but given he was under such pressure no matter his alignment he literally was doing anything he could, without boundaries or concerns for his own appeareance. He votes scott briefly right after townreading him and geript (to save himself), and when EVERYONE ELSE already switched to Rels, he switches with them. Who does he switch with? With his scumreads Koshi and HF from that time. It's such a bad looking play that I'd have vigged him given the chance but since it wasn't really a standard situation I don't feel like I can be very confident using this. Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 09:57 Holyflare wrote:
Lol why do you think i force people to call me town? It's so I can concentrate and not get distracted. Hence mafia palmar trying to tilt me into an argument to fit his "meta" crap post he posted earlier about me.
Basically the people that are mafia this game are the ones that are just calling me mafia-ish with no real conviction and leaving the door open for later (ticktock) and the guy with no real conviction to lynch anyone and calls me mafia for what reason exactly? which is not normal (palmar)
+probably scott but maybe not but probably Idk geript had a point when he said that it looks like TT is having fun playing the game. And I don't quite see him being the first person to call me mafia. If you really only go by that logic you're admitting to being fully omgus driven.
But you need to base your own conclusion as well. From a town PoV - I still do not think it clears TW a whole lot - honestly, I think the shennanies makes him more suspicious.
I'm angry you pissed off our cop so much he got frustrated and left the game.
I'm angry you are so tunnelled on me when I'm town.
I'm angry ya'll lynched our other blue.
I'm angry Race got modkilled as town and lost our extra lynch.
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