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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 28 2016 22:19 GMT
#222
I get what you're saying (at least, I think, anyway). Thanks.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 28 2016 23:57 GMT
#262
On August 29 2016 08:45 Tictock wrote:
Still sus of Vivax too, he is playing to a higher degree than last I saw of him as scum but his contributions feel forced and possibly have agenda behind them.
Tictock, why do you say that Vivax's contributions possibly have agenda behind them?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 03:03 GMT
#297
@Tumblewood:
On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.
On August 29 2016 06:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:49 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.
Sorry Vivax, I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm not quite getting what you're saying.

You're saying that if Tumblewood was actually interested in my alignment, and actually wanted to talk about me, then he would have discussed your post about me instead of just talking about Palmar's read on Rels? Or am I wrong?


More or less. I think he was way more drawn to the Rels issue than to yours which he initially mentioned. But why would he? Does he just have fun antagonizing Palmar? Is he more protective of Rels for other reasons?
Do you have any responses to these concerns?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 06:09 GMT
#312
Hey, disformation, want to solve the game together?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 06:17 GMT
#315
Geript, I'll read your stuff in more detail in a bit, but I'm not sure why you put Koshi as town. Help?

Same with Tictock, when I read your posts it seems like you have problems with Tictock's posts so far, but I don't see that listed in the summary.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 06:18 GMT
#316
On August 29 2016 15:12 disformation wrote:
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On August 29 2016 15:09 Trfel wrote:
Hey, disformation, want to solve the game together?

would love to solve the game.
My question wasn't exclusive to disformation, I assumed (wrongly) that he was the only one around. Geript (or anyone else), if you'd like to discuss as well, I would love to

Is there anyone in particular that you feel are interesting/worth discussing first?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 06:32 GMT
#318
On August 29 2016 15:25 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 15:18 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 15:12 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 15:09 Trfel wrote:
Hey, disformation, want to solve the game together?

would love to solve the game.
My question wasn't exclusive to disformation, I assumed (wrongly) that he was the only one around. Geript (or anyone else), if you'd like to discuss as well, I would love to

Is there anyone in particular that you feel are interesting/worth discussing first?

not rly tbh. xD
should take a look at rb and danhel, ome to work and kinda skimmed that stuff.
Okay, well I decided to start by rereading everything, but while that's going on, what do you think about Vivax?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 06:34 GMT
#319
On August 29 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
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On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

Or he is mafia with him!

2 found?
Also, someone help me out, which two people is Koshi referring to as being mafia in this post?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 06:45 GMT
#322
Disformation, Holyflare and geript (iirc) have both brought up that they are quite suspicious of Vivax. Yet you don't seem to be suspicious of Holyflare and geript. What are your thoughts here?

*to clarify, I'm not trying to trap you in words, just genuinely curious
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 07:02 GMT
#324
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 07:05 GMT
#326
On August 29 2016 16:03 disformation wrote:
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On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then?

his case on Rels made me laugh.
But you posted that Vivax is town before he posted his case on Rels?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 07:13 GMT
#329
On August 29 2016 16:10 disformation wrote:
and with all these questions I am fairly surprised you don't ask me where the hell my incredible hard TR on TT comes from.
Sure, why are you so confident that Tictock is town?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 07:22 GMT
#332
I think I kind of like DanelerH. It feels like he is involved with the game and actually interested in looking into people's thinking behind their actions. Thoughts?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 07:34 GMT
#336
Tumblewood

Tumblewood has made several reads this game but it doesn't feel like he cares about those reads at all. One big example of this is his Palmar read:
On August 29 2016 06:35 Tumblewood wrote:
maybe palmar's mafia
On August 29 2016 06:36 Tumblewood wrote:
idk I feel like if you applied that read to every situation you'd lynch scum the same amount as normal.
Tumblewood feels a bit unsure and apathetic about Palmar's scumread of Rels, but still seems to think that Palmar may be mafia. Yet when I asked him for more about this read, he said no.

In addition, there is no continuity to his reads. It just doesn't seem like he cares about his reads at all.

Thoughts?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 07:52 GMT
#342
Disformation, I have a terrible meta read that says that Tictock is mafia.

My terrible meta read is that when Tictock is mafia, he tends to cooperate with people and be a bit nicer to them. And when he's town, he can be a bit more abrasive and uses a harsher tone to voice his suspicions.

I think that this meta is semi-decent (but terrible because I am the one who said it), and I think that it points towards Tictock being mafia in this game. Do you agree with my interpretation of Tictock's meta, and if so, do you agree with my interpretation of Tictock's play this game with respect to this?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 07:57 GMT
#345
On August 29 2016 16:50 disformation wrote:
On a side note: I am not sure I like geript not interacting with anyone and just dumping these post by post commentaries in thread.
Does feel totally different to geript when I last played with him.
But since that was a long while ago and I only played with geript once:
can the ppl who played with geript more often comment on that?
I don't really count for "playing with geript often", but I agree that geript sharing reads and vanishing feels off-putting. However, geript isn't always the most involved as town (he tends to be at least decently involved iirc), and more importantly, it's a bit late in the US so it does make some sense for him to leave right after posting. I like that you noticed that, though, disformation.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 08:03 GMT
#351
Sorry, disformation, I know I've asked you a ton of questions this game, but one more....

I'm honestly not really sure where you're at, even after reading your filter. Who are some of your strongest townreads and scumreads?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 08:21 GMT
#359
geript

On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Overall:

HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual.
The important points in bold: Tictock as town, and Race Bannon as probably scum.

Here is what geript says about Tictock:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 29 2016 14:45 geript wrote:
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On August 29 2016 08:06 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:22 Vivax wrote:
I see good will from Trfel here but it's not going to catch a mafia disfo. So far both of them posted null stuff, with Trfel's scumclaim being posted to look like he wanted to draw attention, but since he's posting in sluggish tempo I'm not sure he wanted to actually draw attention but the opposite. But I don't want to crash his party if he thinks he's achieving something.

Also, salut Rels!


This strikes me as the most interesting post thus far. Basically a long winded way of saying he has no idea what Trfel is doing.

I agree with the first sentance but the rest is calling out Trfel for something, then saying he doesn't want to push Trfel for it. Mild scum lean for casting shade on Trfel but not wanting to look like a bad guy while doing it.

I like picking up on the Vivax post and bringing it back up.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 08:45 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:18 Koshi wrote:
Now that Palmar plays I will just let him do his thing and lynch him D3 if we don't lynch mafia. eztactics and 100% foolproof.


Hey, that was my plan!

Now I feel like I should come up with something more original... but thankfully I'm pretty lazy.

For now I think I'll add my weight to the Rels train kus a little pressure on him sounds like a good way to start the game. Still sus of Vivax too, he is playing to a higher degree than last I saw of him as scum but his contributions feel forced and possibly have agenda behind them.

Pretty sure Trfel and Dis are both town.

That is all.

## Vote: Rels

This is really left field and I don't understand where it's coming from. TT explain.
On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 09:17 Tictock wrote:
A couple of Vivax's posts don't mesh with how I'm seeing the game at all.

Ehh I think I need context.

On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.


Here he is basically saying that Tumble reacting to Palmar's thing with Rels is an "attention shift" like there is possible association between Rels and Tumble. While Vivax's own opinion of Rels is basically "Palmar is a cool guy, and makes a good point about Rels"

I kinda see Vivax doing exactly what he is accusing Tumble of doing here, shifting some attention from people discussing Rels onto Tumble.

I guess there's a logic to this, but it really doesn't add up.
On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 10:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way


I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post.

Willing to townlean you for this though.

thank you, I was proud of that read

Wait, WTF???? This:

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way


I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post.

Willing to townlean you for this though.


This is a reason to townread someone? That's a pretty fucking terrible reason to think anyone's town.


And here is what geript says about Race Bannon:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 29 2016 14:45 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 07:29 Palmar wrote:
Although just thinking that makes him like super likely to be town. Which kinda sucks, because it's a super "cheap" townread, but there is almost no way Race Bannon makes that post as mafia.

Probably true, but I want to lynch him just for bringing it up.
On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

This is really fucking weird pair to be scumreading.


I kind of get geript's scumread of Race Bannon, but it feels very weak, especially after he agreed with Palmar's reason to townread him, and yet geript puts it the same as his strongest scumreads. And I really, really don't understand how geript has these thoughts about Tictock's play but ends in a town read on him anyway. Geript's comments here (particularly on Tictock) don't seem to match the end read.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 08:33 GMT
#363
So I think I am at.....

Town

Palmar - Meta
Vivax? - Meta I like the way he dove in, most notably the read on Tumblewood. Though I don't like that he stopped doing stuff at roughly the same time that disformation and I called him town. That might have simply been bedtime in his part of Europe though.

Town Lean

scott31337 - He's doing stuff. Normally scott31337 doesn't do stuff. That generally isn't a meta that you break for the first time as mafia.
DanelerH?
disformation? - I'm allowed to waffle on waffle boy.

Maybe Mafia Ish?

Tictock?
Rels?
Tumblewood

Not really that sure on the rest to be honest. I really don't like geript's thing on Tictock, but the rest of it is sensible, even if not great; I don't feel super confident pursuing this yet.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 08:35 GMT
#365
Koshi, what do you think of geript?
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