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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 25 2016 05:52 GMT
#49
On August 25 2016 13:08 DanelerH wrote:
/in

Would anyone happen to have any Day 1 advice? I'm rather new to the game and the games I've played have mostly consisted of newer players where the general consensus is to just skip Day 1. I disagree with this and want to learn more about what can be done.
Here's my thoughts on Day 1. Though I haven't talked to anyone about this, so you should probably just ignore me

To me, in some ways, making reads in mafia feels sort of like a pyramid. At the beginning, you have basically no information to work with, so your reads are terrible. As the game progresses, you have more and more information to work with, and as a result you reads become far more accurate. Basically, while at the end of the game, you might have cases that could fill a bookshelf (I don't recommend doing this), but at the start of the game all you might have is a read on someone based on which smiley they used at the end of their sentence

The point is that yes, reads at the start of the game may not be very good. Maybe I'm scumreading someone based on their smiley choice (which granted is almost certainly pointless). But the important thing is that making the read is at least a read, rather than just joking about the weather. Then someone makes a read on me based on the read that I made. Sure, my read was basically a shot in the dark, but their read isn't based on a smiley, it's based on my read. So it's a bit more substantial. Then you can make a read on them based on that, etc. Even though you start out with nothing to work with, you get deeper and deeper reads. As there starts to be more thread direction and suspicion starts being pushed onto different people, you can start to get a much better idea of who is actually mafia.

This doesn't apply as much to players who use "tone reads", looking at specific phrasing and emotion more to make reads. Tone reads can be significantly more effective early on, since tone still exists even in posts that are unrelated to the game (even if a bit more unreliable, depending).
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 25 2016 05:54 GMT
#50
Scott, play? I'll play if you play. And if this starts soon.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 26 2016 01:49 GMT
#63
On August 26 2016 04:22 beentheredonethat wrote:
How did I not see this Oo. Not sure if Templar trolled me for the edit. Thank you for pointing it out, I corrected it.
It was there originally
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 27 2016 06:05 GMT
#76
/in
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 27 2016 19:04 GMT
#101
/confirm
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 28 2016 20:59 GMT
#131
Beentheredonethat is the worst cohost on TL.

I didn't think he would be cruel enough to make me mafia two games in a row
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 28 2016 21:01 GMT
#133
Disformation, where does your name come from? If I remember correctly, it's not just a misspelling of "disinformation", right?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 28 2016 21:08 GMT
#139
Disformation, I find it very odd that you felt the need to justify your earlier post after Vivax made an obviously joking statement. Please explain?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 28 2016 21:12 GMT
#143
On August 29 2016 06:10 disformation wrote:
the thing that super confuses me about trfel:
his last game was palmars huge themed park. he was scum there alright, but btdt wasnt hosting in any fashion that game. and this game he is the main host not co-host?
Is this supposed to be some kind of joke and I am missing something here?
Yes, I mis-typed, I meant to say "host" instead of "cohost". Doesn't change the fact that beentheredonethat is evil. His involvement (or lack thereof) with hosting the Palmar game has nothing to do with it.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 28 2016 21:18 GMT
#145
On August 29 2016 06:11 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:08 Trfel wrote:
Disformation, I find it very odd that you felt the need to justify your earlier post after Vivax made an obviously joking statement. Please explain?

Vivax was making a joke?
Okay, joke was probably not the best word. Try "light-hearted comment" instead.

1. You posted at the start of the game that you were confirmed town. I am assuming here (correct me if I am wrong) that the reason that you are (supposedly) confirmed town is that you made the first post. I am also assuming (again, correct me if I am wrong) that everyone is aware that being confirmed town by virtue of having the first post in the game is a joke.

2. Vivax points out that you are not in fact confirmed town (and again, we're assuming that this is in fact a true statement).

3. You respond to Vivax here.

I'm interested in why you responded in the post mentioned in (3) above.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 28 2016 21:19 GMT
#146
On August 29 2016 06:18 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:12 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:10 disformation wrote:
the thing that super confuses me about trfel:
his last game was palmars huge themed park. he was scum there alright, but btdt wasnt hosting in any fashion that game. and this game he is the main host not co-host?
Is this supposed to be some kind of joke and I am missing something here?
Yes, I mis-typed, I meant to say "host" instead of "cohost". Doesn't change the fact that beentheredonethat is evil. His involvement (or lack thereof) with hosting the Palmar game has nothing to do with it.

Ah I think I understand now.
You are not saying he is evil for having you rolled as scum two games in a row, but he is evil for having you rolled scum this game, after you already were scum in your last game? correct?
Correct
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 28 2016 21:23 GMT
#152
On August 29 2016 06:20 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:18 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:11 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:08 Trfel wrote:
Disformation, I find it very odd that you felt the need to justify your earlier post after Vivax made an obviously joking statement. Please explain?

Vivax was making a joke?
Okay, joke was probably not the best word. Try "light-hearted comment" instead.

1. You posted at the start of the game that you were confirmed town. I am assuming here (correct me if I am wrong) that the reason that you are (supposedly) confirmed town is that you made the first post. I am also assuming (again, correct me if I am wrong) that everyone is aware that being confirmed town by virtue of having the first post in the game is a joke.

2. Vivax points out that you are not in fact confirmed town (and again, we're assuming that this is in fact a true statement).

3. You respond to Vivax here.

I'm interested in why you responded in the post mentioned in (3) above.

yes
yes
yes
why not?
So the reason you posted that is just because you feel that there's no reason not to?

Because to me, it seems like not only a pointless statement, but also averting attention by saying "Look, I did the same thing that someone else did! That's the explanation!" instead of speaking for yourself. It feels a bit out of place. Am I missing something?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 28 2016 21:30 GMT
#163
On August 29 2016 06:26 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:23 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:20 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:18 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:11 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:08 Trfel wrote:
Disformation, I find it very odd that you felt the need to justify your earlier post after Vivax made an obviously joking statement. Please explain?

Vivax was making a joke?
Okay, joke was probably not the best word. Try "light-hearted comment" instead.

1. You posted at the start of the game that you were confirmed town. I am assuming here (correct me if I am wrong) that the reason that you are (supposedly) confirmed town is that you made the first post. I am also assuming (again, correct me if I am wrong) that everyone is aware that being confirmed town by virtue of having the first post in the game is a joke.

2. Vivax points out that you are not in fact confirmed town (and again, we're assuming that this is in fact a true statement).

3. You respond to Vivax here.

I'm interested in why you responded in the post mentioned in (3) above.

yes
yes
yes
why not?
So the reason you posted that is just because you feel that there's no reason not to?

Because to me, it seems like not only a pointless statement, but also averting attention by saying "Look, I did the same thing that someone else did! That's the explanation!" instead of speaking for yourself. It feels a bit out of place. Am I missing something?

averting attention away from what?
Short answer: yourself
+ Show Spoiler [Long Answer] +
It's one thing to say, "here are my thoughts". It's another to say, "here are someone else's thoughts, shown over here, and so I'm doing the same thing". This is made much greater in a game of mafia, because even though people don't know your alignment, they know that Damdred was town in that game and did it as town, so therefore the actions that you took are sensible for town.

Instead of simply ignoring it (which is perfectly valid) or providing an explanation that is your own words, and your own ideas, instead of someone else's.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 28 2016 21:35 GMT
#171
On August 29 2016 06:35 Tumblewood wrote:
maybe palmar's mafia
Please explain?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 28 2016 21:46 GMT
#181
Oh boy, disformation, I can't wait to see how you react if/when I actually push you

For you less meta-inclined people, Palmar and Vivax are very likely town ^^
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 28 2016 21:49 GMT
#184
On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.
Sorry Vivax, I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm not quite getting what you're saying.

You're saying that if Tumblewood was actually interested in my alignment, and actually wanted to talk about me, then he would have discussed your post about me instead of just talking about Palmar's read on Rels? Or am I wrong?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 28 2016 21:50 GMT
#186
On August 29 2016 06:47 disformation wrote:
Yes Vivax much town. wow.
Do you not agree about Palmar?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 28 2016 22:00 GMT
#199
On August 29 2016 06:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:49 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.
Sorry Vivax, I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm not quite getting what you're saying.

You're saying that if Tumblewood was actually interested in my alignment, and actually wanted to talk about me, then he would have discussed your post about me instead of just talking about Palmar's read on Rels? Or am I wrong?


More or less. I think he was way more drawn to the Rels issue than to yours which he initially mentioned. But why would he? Does he just have fun antagonizing Palmar? Is he more protective of Rels for other reasons?
Okay, think I get what you're saying. Tumblewood, I'd appreciate an explanation

On August 29 2016 06:53 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:50 scott31337 wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:44 disformation wrote:
Eh, what do you think of Trfel?
Am I going full OMGUS on a town here, cause he is pushing me over nothing, or is he scum pushing me over nothing?

Would actually like some pressure on Rels, so he comes back and actually plays.


He saw how townie you played in the last game, did he build a lot of respect from you of it, because I would think he would find easier targets, you know what I mean?

when I entered the game last game a lot of ppl scum read me. E.g. Hats though I would very likely be scum.
But your argument makes a lot of sense. Unless Trfel is breaking meta hardcore I don't think he would push me like this right of the bat.
Disformation, last question for now, when you say "breaking meta", what are you referring to?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 28 2016 22:02 GMT
#203
On August 29 2016 07:01 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 07:00 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:49 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.
Sorry Vivax, I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm not quite getting what you're saying.

You're saying that if Tumblewood was actually interested in my alignment, and actually wanted to talk about me, then he would have discussed your post about me instead of just talking about Palmar's read on Rels? Or am I wrong?


More or less. I think he was way more drawn to the Rels issue than to yours which he initially mentioned. But why would he? Does he just have fun antagonizing Palmar? Is he more protective of Rels for other reasons?
Okay, think I get what you're saying. Tumblewood, I'd appreciate an explanation

On August 29 2016 06:53 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:50 scott31337 wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:44 disformation wrote:
Eh, what do you think of Trfel?
Am I going full OMGUS on a town here, cause he is pushing me over nothing, or is he scum pushing me over nothing?

Would actually like some pressure on Rels, so he comes back and actually plays.


He saw how townie you played in the last game, did he build a lot of respect from you of it, because I would think he would find easier targets, you know what I mean?

when I entered the game last game a lot of ppl scum read me. E.g. Hats though I would very likely be scum.
But your argument makes a lot of sense. Unless Trfel is breaking meta hardcore I don't think he would push me like this right of the bat.
Disformation, last question for now, when you say "breaking meta", what are you referring to?

as scum you like to avoid spotlight very much. this game you basically are screaming for that. see your opener for example.
Okay, thanks a bunch for answering my questions. I really appreciate it. Good night
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 28 2016 22:14 GMT
#217
Wait, Koshi, I thought that you were joking about Tumblewood being mafia?

Assuming that you are actually suspicious of him, why?
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