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Bah, okay, I had a few more minutes.
+ Show Spoiler +On August 20 2016 01:59 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2016 01:38 iamperfection wrote:
Oh but for those who care I got a notification that I was shot at but it failed for some reason. I don't know why.
I assumed it was mafia I guess it's possible it's town but I didn't think of that. You "didn't think of that". What a weird way to phrase it. And what a weird thing to assume, when according to disfo, two flipped townies really didn't like you (HF + Vivax). So why would you assume scum shot you ? On August 20 2016 06:43 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2016 04:50 Half the Sky wrote:On August 20 2016 03:36 Half the Sky wrote:On August 20 2016 01:59 Rels wrote:On August 20 2016 01:38 iamperfection wrote:
Oh but for those who care I got a notification that I was shot at but it failed for some reason. I don't know why.
I assumed it was mafia I guess it's possible it's town but I didn't think of that. You "didn't think of that". What a weird way to phrase it. And what a weird thing to assume, when according to disfo, two flipped townies really didn't like you (HF + Vivax). So why would you assume scum shot you ? IAMP's post is about as forced as it comes. Furthermore the point was made that mafia can medic themselves/each other in themed games and I know it's happened in prior GM games. Another red flag here is that I was shot last night, I didn't die and I received zero notifications. Additionally (disclaimer: host wifom) Palmar generally prefers mafia-favoured (slightly) setups and will never have notifications that are not necessary. I'm 99.9% sure IAMP just claimed scum here. I am now 100% certain that IAMP is mafia. Notifications are in effect only when necessary.For those newer to TL, this means roleblocks and medic/veteran saves/hits are not notified. DT/tracker checks and no results will be.+ Show Spoiler +It should be obvious how I know if you can think one modicum outside the box. Now we need to somehow find the other four (five?) Carry on, but I thought I would pop in to let everyone know. Smart (= (he votes IAMP in between) On August 20 2016 19:44 Rels wrote:
Arta made some good posts though. GB and iamp are more likely to flip scum probably.
Not that I care a lot but it's fun to solve the game. On August 21 2016 04:08 Rels wrote:
Skynx is super likely scum
Gonna vote GB for the second one. Iamp is a good choice too I feel
There's your answer.
IAMP and Rels are not the same alignment.
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Last post directed at Koshi.
Now I'm really out.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On August 18 2016 00:54 GlowingBear wrote:
QT 5:
- "I'm kinda paranoid the third person who hasn't spoke yet could be mafia though if they're just watching."
- "I don't get it at all"
This is me. Just me and GB were in the QT all of phase one. We were informed there were three people and Holyflare didn't show up until phase two.
I was also QT 2 from disfo's set of quicktopics.
So why in the world has nobody else come forward to claim the other quicktopics?
There can't possibly be 4 mafia quicktopics right? If you are town, then come forward. If each quicktopic has at least 2 players (possibly more) and there are 4 unclaimed quicktopics, that means there are a minimum of EIGHT PLAYERS who are in quicktopics, but haven't claimed. THAT'S ALMOST EVERYONE.
Are you guys all just prioritizing your secondary win conditions or something? If you are, you're playing against your MAIN WIN CONDITION, which is really lame.
On August 18 2016 00:54 GlowingBear wrote:
QT 1:
- "Welp Tumble Lost lol "
- "Nah makes perfect sense."
QT 2:
- "WHAT? JUST BECAUSE I'M GERMAN, YOU ASSUME THAT I WANT TO OPEN UP A CONCENTRATION CAMP?
YOU DISGUST ME."
- "I already bid 20 million Euros on the tank and 10 million on the iPhone. I can increase those bids if needed."
- "I'm going to Africa
And I'm killing Onegu soon"
QT 3:
- "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it.
For posting that banana picture."
- "On second thought I am just going to babble some nonsense and go down with the ship."
QT 4:
- "Man, Palmar, we are going to be BFF's
I like this place.
I think I just going to keep on trying to run for USSR election, and we can just keep on talking and talking. You and me, forever....
Are you ready for your punishment Palmar?"
- "A benevolent figure has gifted you an ice machine during your stay in the Gulag. Overusing it will cause you to get executed."
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On August 26 2016 21:58 Half the Sky wrote:Bah, okay, I had a few more minutes. + Show Spoiler +On August 20 2016 01:59 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2016 01:38 iamperfection wrote:
Oh but for those who care I got a notification that I was shot at but it failed for some reason. I don't know why.
I assumed it was mafia I guess it's possible it's town but I didn't think of that. You "didn't think of that". What a weird way to phrase it. And what a weird thing to assume, when according to disfo, two flipped townies really didn't like you (HF + Vivax). So why would you assume scum shot you ? On August 20 2016 06:43 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2016 04:50 Half the Sky wrote:On August 20 2016 03:36 Half the Sky wrote:On August 20 2016 01:59 Rels wrote:On August 20 2016 01:38 iamperfection wrote:
Oh but for those who care I got a notification that I was shot at but it failed for some reason. I don't know why.
I assumed it was mafia I guess it's possible it's town but I didn't think of that. You "didn't think of that". What a weird way to phrase it. And what a weird thing to assume, when according to disfo, two flipped townies really didn't like you (HF + Vivax). So why would you assume scum shot you ? IAMP's post is about as forced as it comes. Furthermore the point was made that mafia can medic themselves/each other in themed games and I know it's happened in prior GM games. Another red flag here is that I was shot last night, I didn't die and I received zero notifications. Additionally (disclaimer: host wifom) Palmar generally prefers mafia-favoured (slightly) setups and will never have notifications that are not necessary. I'm 99.9% sure IAMP just claimed scum here. I am now 100% certain that IAMP is mafia. Notifications are in effect only when necessary.For those newer to TL, this means roleblocks and medic/veteran saves/hits are not notified. DT/tracker checks and no results will be.+ Show Spoiler +It should be obvious how I know if you can think one modicum outside the box. Now we need to somehow find the other four (five?) Carry on, but I thought I would pop in to let everyone know. Smart (= (he votes IAMP in between) On August 20 2016 19:44 Rels wrote:
Arta made some good posts though. GB and iamp are more likely to flip scum probably.
Not that I care a lot but it's fun to solve the game. On August 21 2016 04:08 Rels wrote:
Skynx is super likely scum
Gonna vote GB for the second one. Iamp is a good choice too I feel There's your answer. IAMP and Rels are not the same alignment.
You know what I'm 100% done with this game because you are too tunneled on me. Koshi was asking if I ever doubted iamp to be 3P after he claimed 3P. And here are the posts I talk about IAMP after he claimed 3P:
On August 22 2016 18:51 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2016 18:41 Koshi wrote:On August 22 2016 18:38 Rels wrote:On August 22 2016 17:54 Koshi wrote:
@ Rels
Kurumi got it and the message said that MZ is town.
How is it related to iamp? OK I missed that. Can you explain how we can proof iamp is telling the truth? We cannot prove anything. I think it's true though 'cause it makes sense.
On August 23 2016 09:24 Rels wrote:
I believe iamp is truly 3p though so it's kinda a waste. Mafia are not immune to lynch it's just not fair for town if they are, so it makes sense that hes 3p
So you didn't take the time to carefully look for the posts Koshi asked for, and instead took the first posts you saw without being smart. You are too tunneled on me. I'm done.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On August 26 2016 22:15 kitaman27 wrote:
QT 3:
- "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it.
For posting that banana picture."
- "On second thought I am just going to babble some nonsense and go down with the ship."
The person giving out bananas seems so incredibly obvious to be mafia considering they haven't come forward and chose to target myself, dandel, and grack. If they were town, they wouldn't have anything to hide. Furthermore, a town player doesn't "go down with the ship".
It is also incredibly obvious that I am not scum buddies with the banana vig because he is talking about me as if I'm not there.
Now take a look at HTS's relation to the banana shot.
On August 17 2016 23:42 Half the Sky wrote:
This is where I am:
Not entirely sure/will need to be sussed out a bit more:
GlowingBear (some townie thought towards the end, though I am deliberately ignoring mechs here, some similar reads to mine)
Dandel Ion (meh)
Lunaticman (need to really see actual reads and not just surviving on mech discussion)
Grackaroni (originally was good but not remembering too many impactful posts from him more recently, falling under the radar?)
MZ (some of his reads I liked but more content would make me more confident on him)
The "dear vig, please take out the trash" pile:
Rels (pending catching up)
Stutters695
Kurumi
Shapelog
Fecalfeast
Possible scum
Trfel (it's somewhere in my filter)
sicklucker (where are the reads)
Chezinu (all he does is go on about his position, someone please shoot him, clearly he's not helping town even compared to Star Wars where you got some semblance he was trying to)
Scum reads
prplhz
Onegu (I make no distinction between anti-town third parties and scum)
IAP
I would say that vigis should target the bottom six players.
On August 19 2016 09:19 Half the Sky wrote:
Anyhow first things first, I'm claiming the shot on Grackaroni. I had one bullet only shoot people who held/were holding bananas (kills wouldn't register if I just shot anyone and they didn't have a banana) and there was zero to negative chance in hell I was shooting either of Kita or Dandel Ion.
Look at how she justifies the banana shot. She shot grack because she didn't want to shoot townie kita or dandel. However, in her scum list from the previous day, SHE LISTED TWELVE DIFFERENT PLAYERS that should be shot ahead of grack.
Then when she returns to the thread, SHE NEVER EVEN COMMENTS ON THE QUICKTOPICS FROM GB. A player with 16 pages of filter, is completely uninterested in the most powerful ability that town has received this game.
She does know the of the quicktopic's existence though. She knows that I was given a banana and she was either tricked into possibly shooting me or she was lying about how her shot works in the first place. Yet now she does a complete 180 on me from the previous day saying that I'm her #1 scum suspect, while HARD DEFENDING THE GUY WHO JUST SHOT DISFO.
I'll take a shot at the post game cred thing and say HTS is mafia.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
That being said, I can't explain the medic save on her that was claimed by dandel.
Since we're all vanilla townies at this point, if a town medic protected her, they should come forward. Otherwise, it opens the possibility of a mafia medic. There wasn't any flips that could have been the medic so the medic must still be alive.
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On August 26 2016 21:34 Koshi wrote:
I think
kita/rels/tfrel/damdred could be the mafia team. Maybe stutters as well then?
So the plan was to sacrifice Damdred and then roll over town 2 kp at a time.
Is it confirmed mafia kp is delivered? or is it factional?
tumbleweed.. the qt the qt?
also who was giving people bananas. 100% one of tumble or the banana man is scum.. who is the banana man? i feel like someone should know this and fucking tell me so i can shoot them if I dont shoot rels
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On August 26 2016 21:39 Koshi wrote:
I think we need to roll between Rels/Kita/Stutters. Or just go kita. If he is town we can truly surrender.
rels back tracking sounds like rels is mad I caught him not making sense.
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On August 26 2016 22:15 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2016 00:54 GlowingBear wrote:
QT 5:
- "I'm kinda paranoid the third person who hasn't spoke yet could be mafia though if they're just watching."
- "I don't get it at all" This is me. Just me and GB were in the QT all of phase one. We were informed there were three people and Holyflare didn't show up until phase two. I was also QT 2 from disfo's set of quicktopics. So why in the world has nobody else come forward to claim the other quicktopics? There can't possibly be 4 mafia quicktopics right? If you are town, then come forward. If each quicktopic has at least 2 players (possibly more) and there are 4 unclaimed quicktopics, that means there are a minimum of EIGHT PLAYERS who are in quicktopics, but haven't claimed. THAT'S ALMOST EVERYONE. Are you guys all just prioritizing your secondary win conditions or something? If you are, you're playing against your MAIN WIN CONDITION, which is really lame. Show nested quote +On August 18 2016 00:54 GlowingBear wrote:
QT 1:
- "Welp Tumble Lost lol "
- "Nah makes perfect sense."
QT 2:
- "WHAT? JUST BECAUSE I'M GERMAN, YOU ASSUME THAT I WANT TO OPEN UP A CONCENTRATION CAMP?
YOU DISGUST ME."
- "I already bid 20 million Euros on the tank and 10 million on the iPhone. I can increase those bids if needed."
- "I'm going to Africa
And I'm killing Onegu soon"
QT 3:
- "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it.
For posting that banana picture."
- "On second thought I am just going to babble some nonsense and go down with the ship."
QT 4:
- "Man, Palmar, we are going to be BFF's
I like this place.
I think I just going to keep on trying to run for USSR election, and we can just keep on talking and talking. You and me, forever....
Are you ready for your punishment Palmar?"
- "A benevolent figure has gifted you an ice machine during your stay in the Gulag. Overusing it will cause you to get executed."
this . even tho your mafia thank you for making sense. literally everyone is ignoing me all day about this. so maybe something really weird is going on. I already knew qt5 was not a mafia qt because its obvious mafia hunting.
one of qt 1 or 3 is 100% mafia...
palmar wouldnt list 5 qts and not include a mafia one. the rest of them seem accounted for except maybe #2
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like im just so frustarted I know without a doubt 100% that this tells us who one of the mafia is. but I cant remember half the shit that happened in this game so I cant figure it out. and two im pretty confirmed town already.
So can someone questionable figure this shit out and win us the game please and get us a mafia and a confirmed town
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Can someone fully explain hts role. I WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THESE BANANAS. it sounded so stupid the first time I read it that I ignored it. but I think it solves this game
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On August 26 2016 22:30 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2016 22:15 kitaman27 wrote:
QT 3:
- "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it.
For posting that banana picture."
- "On second thought I am just going to babble some nonsense and go down with the ship." The person giving out bananas seems so incredibly obvious to be mafia considering they haven't come forward and chose to target myself, dandel, and grack. If they were town, they wouldn't have anything to hide. Furthermore, a town player doesn't "go down with the ship". It is also incredibly obvious that I am not scum buddies with the banana vig because he is talking about me as if I'm not there. Now take a look at HTS's relation to the banana shot. Show nested quote +On August 17 2016 23:42 Half the Sky wrote:
This is where I am:
Not entirely sure/will need to be sussed out a bit more:
GlowingBear (some townie thought towards the end, though I am deliberately ignoring mechs here, some similar reads to mine)
Dandel Ion (meh)
Lunaticman (need to really see actual reads and not just surviving on mech discussion)
Grackaroni (originally was good but not remembering too many impactful posts from him more recently, falling under the radar?)
MZ (some of his reads I liked but more content would make me more confident on him)
The "dear vig, please take out the trash" pile:
Rels (pending catching up)
Stutters695
Kurumi
Shapelog
Fecalfeast
Possible scum
Trfel (it's somewhere in my filter)
sicklucker (where are the reads)
Chezinu (all he does is go on about his position, someone please shoot him, clearly he's not helping town even compared to Star Wars where you got some semblance he was trying to)
Scum reads
prplhz
Onegu (I make no distinction between anti-town third parties and scum)
IAP
I would say that vigis should target the bottom six players. Show nested quote +On August 19 2016 09:19 Half the Sky wrote:
Anyhow first things first, I'm claiming the shot on Grackaroni. I had one bullet only shoot people who held/were holding bananas (kills wouldn't register if I just shot anyone and they didn't have a banana) and there was zero to negative chance in hell I was shooting either of Kita or Dandel Ion. Look at how she justifies the banana shot. She shot grack because she didn't want to shoot townie kita or dandel. However, in her scum list from the previous day, SHE LISTED TWELVE DIFFERENT PLAYERS that should be shot ahead of grack. Then when she returns to the thread, SHE NEVER EVEN COMMENTS ON THE QUICKTOPICS FROM GB. A player with 16 pages of filter, is completely uninterested in the most powerful ability that town has received this game. She does know the of the quicktopic's existence though. She knows that I was given a banana and she was either tricked into possibly shooting me or she was lying about how her shot works in the first place. Yet now she does a complete 180 on me from the previous day saying that I'm her #1 scum suspect, while HARD DEFENDING THE GUY WHO JUST SHOT DISFO. I'll take a shot at the post game cred thing and say HTS is mafia.
Said it before and I'll say it again.
At no time was I in any of those quicktopics.
I was only shooting people with only claimed bananas in thread. You claimed in thread, Dandel claimed in thread, Grack claimed in thread. Had Grack not claimed, I'd have held my shot.
I am hard defending the guy who shot disformation because:
(1) I presented alternative theories as to why he might not be mafia and
(2) Koshi has done additional investigation on Rels that comes from a town standpoint.
At no point did I disagree that Koshi was anti-town. He was.
Additionally, Koshi aside, you are ignoring that zero scumhunting took or had been taking place today, and last cycle in the furnace round, zero scumhunting took place, town lost a full day.
I was very blunt about it. Taking Koshi out and refusing to find the other mafia is a copout. That is why I raised the point about having a five player (most likely) mafia team.
I showed zero interest in the QTs because I wasn't in any part of them, otherwise I'd have spoken up.
Me being uninterested in the quicktopics doesn't make me mafia. There were several others that ignored.
And I focused mostly if not entirely on filters for my method of scumhunting. I went traditional this game. If you want to argue some part of what I've done there was mafia indicative, go for it.
You spinning that to make it look that way makes you look quite mafia. Not that that changes my read on you but still.
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so qt 2 4 and 5 are confirmed not mafia.
This means 10000% one of tumbleweed or the banana giving role was spewed mafia hell maybe even both if people dont claim those qts. like this is important why wont anyone helpppp me....
oh ya because half of you are mafia right
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On August 26 2016 22:44 sicklucker wrote:
Can someone fully explain hts role. I WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THESE BANANAS. it sounded so stupid the first time I read it that I ignored it. but I think it solves this game
Also this is just my opinion but I think there's much stronger evidence than the QTs.
That should be obvious considering town as a whole blundered on the Skynx mislynch. Just saying there.
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hts explain your role and all your actions to me. pretend I didnt read any of the thread
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how is any evidence stronger then confirmed mafia?
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On August 26 2016 22:46 sicklucker wrote:
so qt 2 4 and 5 are confirmed not mafia.
This means 10000% one of tumbleweed or the banana giving role was spewed mafia hell maybe even both if people dont claim those qts. like this is important why wont anyone helpppp me....
oh ya because half of you are mafia right
I asked you before why Tumble was mafia, and I don't think you responded. What makes him mafia?
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Honestly the best play with my current data is to lynch and shoot hts/kita. Its are best chance of killing mafia kp and getting another day. one is always mafia I think
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On August 26 2016 22:48 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2016 22:46 sicklucker wrote:
so qt 2 4 and 5 are confirmed not mafia.
This means 10000% one of tumbleweed or the banana giving role was spewed mafia hell maybe even both if people dont claim those qts. like this is important why wont anyone helpppp me....
oh ya because half of you are mafia right I asked you before why Tumble was mafia, and I don't think you responded. What makes him mafia?
tumbleweed is in qt1... they said something like "shit tumbleweed didnt win the bid" implying tumbleweed is with them
qt1 has 1 in 2 shot of being mafia. or more..
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