EPTK.
I am town and I only claimed 3P survivor 'cause people, mainly disfo, was calling for my head and I had 0 time to play early game, then 0 motivation to read the hundred of pages.
Everything else I've said about my role is true though.
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Rels
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K. I am town and I only claimed 3P survivor 'cause people, mainly disfo, was calling for my head and I had 0 time to play early game, then 0 motivation to read the hundred of pages. Everything else I've said about my role is true though. | ||
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Rels
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On August 26 2016 20:46 Koshi wrote: My theory is that mafia gave up Damdred and are trying to close out the game by saving their kp roles. There is no way damdred is so fucking stupid he claims a parity cop check as mafia on accident and then bails out 1 second after he did his claim. Rels mafia? Very likely, he started pushing mafia agenda the closer mafia came to winning this game. But even if he isn't. Mafia needs to equal or have more members than town, true neutral 3p is always counted with mafia, so... killing 3p is actually a good idea. iamp, rels should both die and not Damdred. Damdred is a puppet. Wait, are they? I thought third party neutrals could be counted either way. They can and should mafia side in lylo but can go either direction. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On August 26 2016 21:02 Half the Sky wrote: Koshi, what do you think of Kitaman and Stutters? I think IAMP is third party but are you sure he has kp? I would rather take out mafia as they are more likely to have kp, that'd be our only chance. We need to take out mafia with kp. That is sure. iamp is probably not mafia with kp. Otherwise he has both survive a lynch + deliver kp and that is ridiculous. Kitaman didn't do anything obviously anti town yet. I actually thought there was a chance you were mafia during the toy thing because you wanted to kill way more people but when kita said 3 names you agreed instantly and those all flipped town. If he is mafia, does he has kp ... I don't know. He for sure had the extra thing with the elections? Did that happen? Did he do anything else? I don't know. Stutters. I don't know. He claims he had to die during the game? Sounds a very weak excuse why he didn't play after he also didn't die. Could be mafia with kp. Nobody really ever pushed him. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On August 26 2016 21:02 Rels wrote: K. I am town and I only claimed 3P survivor 'cause people, mainly disfo, was calling for my head and I had 0 time to play early game, then 0 motivation to read the hundred of pages. Everything else I've said about my role is true though. Somebody should check if Rels ever called iamp mafia for being also 3p. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On August 26 2016 21:10 Half the Sky wrote: Wait, are they? I thought third party neutrals could be counted either way. They can and should mafia side in lylo but can go either direction. If it is a normal game and it is 3 mafia 4 town and 1 neutral survivor, mafia wins because they win the vote race. This is a Palmar game ofc... | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On August 26 2016 21:13 Koshi wrote: We need to take out mafia with kp. That is sure. iamp is probably not mafia with kp. Otherwise he has both survive a lynch + deliver kp and that is ridiculous. Kitaman didn't do anything obviously anti town yet. I actually thought there was a chance you were mafia during the toy thing because you wanted to kill way more people but when kita said 3 names you agreed instantly and those all flipped town. If he is mafia, does he has kp ... I don't know. He for sure had the extra thing with the elections? Did that happen? Did he do anything else? I don't know. Stutters. I don't know. He claims he had to die during the game? Sounds a very weak excuse why he didn't play after he also didn't die. Could be mafia with kp. Nobody really ever pushed him. Kitaman as mafia plays a very clean game, I realise that's not a slam dunk argument, but the fact we had a lot of afk/scummy townies flip should make you think. But I'll start with stutters first. If you look at Trfel's reads and posts, you will notice that he leaves Stutters (and Rels for that matter) off at all points of his game. Trfel typically ignores his scum teammates. Stutters calls for lynching Damdred, you, and Lunaticman. He gives zero reason for the third.....as opposed to hardly anyone else he's read this game. It came out of nowhere. Also when disformation posted his massive wall, he responds to Kitaman's wifomy post but completely ignores disformations' wall of reads. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Also pay attention to how Kitaman jabs at Rels for not being active and even calls me out early game for taking Rel's third party claim at face value. He even is all over Rels for being bloody thirsty last cycle with the pushes. On August 17 2016 11:13 kitaman27 wrote: Haven't bothered with filter dives yet, but aside from maybe 1 afk straggler, the mafias are in here. Onegu prplhz Artanis[Xp] Lunaticman Dandel Ion Shapelog GlowingBear iamperfection sicklucker Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu I'll see if I can narrow this down a bit more and come up with a top 3 or something. You have a bunch of afks in here/lurky players.....but not Rels. With so many lurky players, he could afford to do this. (And Trfel did the same thing.) | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On August 26 2016 21:20 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman as mafia plays a very clean game, I realise that's not a slam dunk argument, but the fact we had a lot of afk/scummy townies flip should make you think. But I'll start with stutters first. If you look at Trfel's reads and posts, you will notice that he leaves Stutters (and Rels for that matter) off at all points of his game. Trfel typically ignores his scum teammates. Stutters calls for lynching Damdred, you, and Lunaticman. He gives zero reason for the third.....as opposed to hardly anyone else he's read this game. It came out of nowhere. Also when disformation posted his massive wall, he responds to Kitaman's wifomy post but completely ignores disformations' wall of reads. ... You have to toll a dice. Just go find a dice. Give your 6 highest mafia suspects numbers and roll. If it hits mafia with kp we might have a shot. I don't believe sicklucker has kp because it was promised to me this would be a 100% normal day. Only Artanis has a powerful ability left. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On August 26 2016 21:25 Half the Sky wrote: If you also believe that Rels is Mafia, then look at Kita prioritsing you over Rels. Also look at his reads from earlier. Also pay attention to how Kitaman jabs at Rels for not being active and even calls me out early game for taking Rel's third party claim at face value. He even is all over Rels for being bloody thirsty last cycle with the pushes. You have a bunch of afks in here/lurky players.....but not Rels. With so many lurky players, he could afford to do this. (And Trfel did the same thing.) Yeah that is a really good point. It is odd he puts pressure on iamp but not on rels. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
This is why in my deadline post (or wherever I did), I concluded IAMP was not same alignment and thus I believe his third party claim. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
kita/rels/tfrel/damdred could be the mafia team. Maybe stutters as well then? So the plan was to sacrifice Damdred and then roll over town 2 kp at a time. Is it confirmed mafia kp is delivered? or is it factional? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
But in this game it makes sense it is an abilty just like town kp. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Would be a decent play if Stutters has kp and Damdred fake claims to get Stutters and Kita the towncred for the Damdred mafia flip. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On August 16 2016 23:02 Vivax wrote: I didn't like that Vivax went out of his way to disagree with my voting plan when there really isn't a downside to the extra information, even if it doesn't pan out in the end. He never explained why it was too complex when asked. Your plan is pointless, everyone can lie about their nationality, we will never discover the motivations for why someone would lie until we see flips from either them or the presidents. Also, kita please. Here's the post that's replying directly to you. On August 16 2016 23:11 Vivax wrote: List post time: 3p: TW Scummy: 1gu, GB, disfo, (kita) Likely town: Iampurrfection, superbia. Lock town: Koshi, HTS Rest still on the fence. On August 17 2016 06:56 Vivax wrote: List of lurkers to not forget about them, how useless this might seem, at least I have my official notepad: Chezinu FecalFeast (especially weird cause his post seemed to contain knowledge of multiple nukes) Trfel stutters Rels Lunaticman Rels and lun did more than the rest but still feel like under the radar. Scumread on Kita On August 17 2016 07:48 Vivax wrote: Kita is scummy for post timing btw. He just seems very detached from the rest that's going on and then pops in right after the election to only comment on the election and giving generic advice that the leaders have to be transparent. On August 17 2016 11:15 Vivax wrote: [/spoiler]Honestly if you're actually town and legit and want to be effective and credible your list should look like this for now. On August 18 2016 03:06 Vivax wrote: I can't give you a better ranking, but if I exclude people I'd kill for policy: Iamp, GB, you are my tops. Recently Grack, then 1gu, FF, SL look the worst to me. Artanis made it off my suspects even tho he seems to be a jerk for baiting people into becoming paraplegics. Maybe 3p I dnu Now this was his final, but he was looking at everything. But was on Kita for what wasn't afk reasons though. Just another piece of the puzzle. He also - unlike my scum candidates - actually look at Rels/Stutters/Trfel, the spectrum. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On August 26 2016 21:38 Koshi wrote: and therefore Damdred was sacrificiced because he has no kp. Would be a decent play if Stutters has kp and Damdred fake claims to get Stutters and Kita the towncred for the Damdred mafia flip. My team is Kitaman/Stutters/Damdred/Trfel/Rels And that's what makes the most sense to me. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
I can understand if town as a whole is more comfortable with Rels. But Kitaman is protecting Rels by prioritising you. It is something to think about there. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On August 26 2016 05:55 kitaman27 wrote: Yes, only two options for today's lynch. Frankly only one (damdred), but koshi would be next in line. Why would I want to lynch Rels today when I already explained why damdred's claim sounds like a bunch of BS? For the record, I still think Rels looks kinda bad, but not to the point where he passes the guy with a nonsense parity check or the guy the shoots our strongest townie and then trolls. Well no. I don't know what size mafia team we are dealing with, do you? I get what you are saying though. I don't have anyone I'm completely confident besides koshi/damdred right now. After today's lynch, I'll look towards who should be the next step. Haven't looked yet. Still at work. Now you're just trying to aggravate me. -_- For clarification above Koshi. | ||
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