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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 11:47 GMT
#4062
On August 26 2016 20:46 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 20:43 Rels wrote:
On August 26 2016 20:40 sicklucker wrote:
also this.

I WAS GIVEN A POWER TO KILL NON HUMANS. Everyone in this game claimed human except for you basically. Im sure some are lying.

but there has to be some mafia in this game that I can kill or why the hell would I have this power as town? Then theres the fact your mission was to come to space also suggests your mafia. since im in space and town and pretty much the only one in space other then a vulcan who was also town.

Its just all too big of a coincidence.

And you think I'm scum, I saw that you wanted to kill alien / non human and I claimed that I couldn't breath in space or that I was a toy anyway
In short you think I'm a careless scum. But you know I'm not. So think avout it a bit more before saying stuff that don't make sensr


well I tricked you unintentional. my actually power is "kill all xenophobes" which basically means non humans including toys.

im sure you would have taken my claim at face value. also you claimed you couldnt breath in space before I even claimed my power trying to get a way into space

I think you're wrong about that
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 11:50 GMT
#4068
You're right the first qt looks like a scum tumble slip. Unless they knew qt would be shared. Or unless it's referring to some other event in the thread
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 11:53 GMT
#4071
K going back to work. I don't want to play anymore. Just kill me
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 11:55 GMT
#4073
I played this game badly so I'm kinda mad at me too. I should just have accepted to be killed by disfo. I should have been quicker on hold the door
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 11:57 GMT
#4076
On August 26 2016 20:56 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 20:55 Rels wrote:
I played this game badly so I'm kinda mad at me too. I should just have accepted to be killed by disfo. I should have been quicker on hold the door

That is why you played badly as 3p survivor? You didn't die faster?

You'll see when I flip.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 12:00 GMT
#4078
On August 26 2016 20:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 00:28 Rels wrote:
On August 25 2016 23:57 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 25 2016 23:32 Rels wrote:
On August 25 2016 23:02 kitaman27 wrote:
Rels
-Buzz lightyear?
-Rich, handsome
-Third party survivor claim
-Roleblocker

I'm not handsome anymore I'm old. I can't use my roleblock anymore 'cause my batteries are dead. I was never rich, I just have some trillons of toy money that is worthless.


Remind me what actions you took the first two days?

Protect
Protect


Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 01:03 Rels wrote:
On August 26 2016 00:40 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 19 2016 23:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
turns out she got shot* by player 14770601
she also got medic saved* by player 91757281


Was this you Rels?

If 91757281 = Rels it might lead us to 14770601.

No I can only protect myself


Okay, found it.

There are several mafia-motivated reasons for Rels to claim this. He is or has likely been a framer or have had self-framing abilities.

Town already had a role (Chezinu) that was able to protect himself twice.

It's likely mafia had a similar role to counteract that and/or any third party having this ability would also make no sense or be disadvantageous for mafia if the third party survivor would town side and play akin to a veteran trying to draw kp.

Mafia Rels claiming this protects himself against detective or DT-like roles checking for lurkers.

It also covers himself in the event a tracker tracked him to (framing) himself.

You can also consider that if Rels truly wanted to town side and had this ability, he'd have clearly gone town and tried to absorb mafia KP, that clearly didn't happen.

This is so stupid it is unbelievable.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 12:02 GMT
#4081
On August 26 2016 21:00 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 20:57 Rels wrote:
On August 26 2016 20:56 Koshi wrote:
On August 26 2016 20:55 Rels wrote:
I played this game badly so I'm kinda mad at me too. I should just have accepted to be killed by disfo. I should have been quicker on hold the door

That is why you played badly as 3p survivor? You didn't die faster?

You'll see when I flip.

I am an impatient man. Can you tell us now?

K.
I am town and I only claimed 3P survivor 'cause people, mainly disfo, was calling for my head and I had 0 time to play early game, then 0 motivation to read the hundred of pages.
Everything else I've said about my role is true though.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 12:05 GMT
#4082
Now going back to work for real. I understand with being killed after playing like this.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 13:29 GMT
#4104
On August 26 2016 21:58 Half the Sky wrote:
Bah, okay, I had a few more minutes.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 20 2016 01:59 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2016 01:38 iamperfection wrote:
Oh but for those who care I got a notification that I was shot at but it failed for some reason. I don't know why.

I assumed it was mafia I guess it's possible it's town but I didn't think of that.

You "didn't think of that". What a weird way to phrase it.
And what a weird thing to assume, when according to disfo, two flipped townies really didn't like you (HF + Vivax). So why would you assume scum shot you ?


On August 20 2016 06:43 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2016 04:50 Half the Sky wrote:
On August 20 2016 03:36 Half the Sky wrote:
On August 20 2016 01:59 Rels wrote:
On August 20 2016 01:38 iamperfection wrote:
Oh but for those who care I got a notification that I was shot at but it failed for some reason. I don't know why.

I assumed it was mafia I guess it's possible it's town but I didn't think of that.

You "didn't think of that". What a weird way to phrase it.
And what a weird thing to assume, when according to disfo, two flipped townies really didn't like you (HF + Vivax). So why would you assume scum shot you ?


IAMP's post is about as forced as it comes. Furthermore the point was made that mafia can medic themselves/each other in themed games and I know it's happened in prior GM games.

Another red flag here is that I was shot last night, I didn't die and I received zero notifications.

Additionally (disclaimer: host wifom) Palmar generally prefers mafia-favoured (slightly) setups and will never have notifications that are not necessary.

I'm 99.9% sure IAMP just claimed scum here.


I am now 100% certain that IAMP is mafia.

Notifications are in effect only when necessary.

For those newer to TL, this means roleblocks and medic/veteran saves/hits are not notified. DT/tracker checks and no results will be.

+ Show Spoiler +
It should be obvious how I know if you can think one modicum outside the box.


Now we need to somehow find the other four (five?)

Carry on, but I thought I would pop in to let everyone know.

Smart (=


(he votes IAMP in between)

On August 20 2016 19:44 Rels wrote:
Arta made some good posts though. GB and iamp are more likely to flip scum probably.
Not that I care a lot but it's fun to solve the game.


On August 21 2016 04:08 Rels wrote:
Skynx is super likely scum
Gonna vote GB for the second one. Iamp is a good choice too I feel


There's your answer.

IAMP and Rels are not the same alignment.

You know what I'm 100% done with this game because you are too tunneled on me. Koshi was asking if I ever doubted iamp to be 3P after he claimed 3P. And here are the posts I talk about IAMP after he claimed 3P:
On August 22 2016 18:51 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2016 18:41 Koshi wrote:
On August 22 2016 18:38 Rels wrote:
On August 22 2016 17:54 Koshi wrote:
@ Rels
Kurumi got it and the message said that MZ is town.

How is it related to iamp?

OK I missed that.

Can you explain how we can proof iamp is telling the truth?

We cannot prove anything. I think it's true though 'cause it makes sense.

On August 23 2016 09:24 Rels wrote:
I believe iamp is truly 3p though so it's kinda a waste. Mafia are not immune to lynch it's just not fair for town if they are, so it makes sense that hes 3p

So you didn't take the time to carefully look for the posts Koshi asked for, and instead took the first posts you saw without being smart. You are too tunneled on me. I'm done.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 20:25 GMT
#4385
I agree with SL. This QT makes HTS 100% town. I don't really follow kita's other argument but unless it literally prove HTS is scum I don't think it can convince me.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 20:27 GMT
#4387
Like she asked this:

Questions for mods

(1) I haven't been flipped yet so (a) I assume I'm still town right? (b) and just infected with a vanilla-virus equivalent?
(2) Can I still post in thread? I got confused from the wording of the PM "you have been killed."

And a fucking host responded:

You have no abilities anymore, you still have the same alignment, you were not officially killed and flipped in a game sense, you may still post in the thread and act as a normal player, but you are now considered an undead servant of lunaticman and thus your interests and new secondary objective are now aligned with his.

She is literally mod confirmed.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 20:30 GMT
#4389
On August 27 2016 05:27 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2016 05:25 Rels wrote:
I agree with SL. This QT makes HTS 100% town. I don't really follow kita's other argument but unless it literally prove HTS is scum I don't think it can convince me.


So what does Kita's push say about his alignment and why?

I don't know. I think he could do that as either alignment. I think he's town for other reasons though.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 20:31 GMT
#4390
But I don't want to talk to you especially now that you are confirmed town. You showed already that you re not willing to think about my alignment
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 20:36 GMT
#4396
Tumble is still very likely scum because of that QT GB posted.
Tumble/Damdred
Lunatic/FF
I'm at something like that. Stutters looks more super lazy town than scum. Lunatic's posts are all very forced and quite unlike his previous town game. Even his QT posts are forced. And his 30 posts about "SHOULD I POST QTTTTT" then posting it then peacing out was forced.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 20:39 GMT
#4399

KITAMAN IS MAFIA - POST 2990

OH
MY
FUCKING
GOD


I can't believe this.

Holy fucking shit.

He framed GB in the QTs.

From HTS in the QT.
WTF are you talking about
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 20:42 GMT
#4401
On August 25 2016 01:07 disformation wrote:
QTs

Yes. Again. Cause it worked so good last time.
Remember my QT snippets? Look at this one again:
Show nested quote +
QT 2:

"I wonder if we can convince everyone to elect a dead man.

Not sketchy at all, right? XD"


"/m174 It was a huge coincidence, I never thought there would be bananas in the game"

"Yeah that one isn't me, though there may be another German player around.

I have a secondary condition for leading Europe to Democracy, so I assume there is a fascist counterpart. I guess that makes sense thematically if they have some type of nazi power."

Timeline:
  1. Ikea chase announced EoD1 #1998
  2. Trfel announced his candidacy for EU leadership early D2 #2068
  3. I get elected and gain access to the QT snippets second half of D2 #2379
  4. Trfel flips red at EoD2 #2780

At that time only scum could have known that Trfel will def. die to the fox squad!
Also:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2016 01:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 20 2016 08:41 disformation wrote:
EBWOP:
Please note, these QTs are not necessarily in the same order as the previous QTs.

QT 1:

"I can't believe you got away with shooting hf and nobody even cares."

"I can't believe they seriously think any of us have bananas XD"

"But yes global warming totally a government conspiracy."


Trfel is one of the few people that uses XD so I think he's likely in the QT 1 thing too. Problem there is that QT 2 has it as well.

On August 20 2016 08:42 disformation wrote:
QT 2:

"I wonder if we can convince everyone to elect a dead man.

Not sketchy at all, right? XD"

"/m174 It was a huge coincidence, I never thought there would be bananas in the game"

"Yeah that one isn't me, though there may be another German player around.

I have a secondary condition for leading Europe to Democracy, so I assume there is a fascist counterpart. I guess that makes sense thematically if they have some type of nazi power."


Makes me wonder if QT 2 and QT 1 come from the same QT. Given it has at least 174 posts I would venture to say they might both be from the mafia QT. Do we know who was in QT 2?

So I think the first guy in QT2 has a pretty high chance of being Trfel himself.

Then D3 something very funny happened:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2016 13:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Did kita tell you that we are in a QT? Because we are

Show nested quote +
On August 22 2016 22:07 kitaman27 wrote:
Yeah GB and I have been part of a QT since day 1. Holyflare joined for 24 hours before he was shot by Skynx. We were the people talking about the democracy/fascism stuff in disfo's QT 2. We essentially stopped talking like 5 days ago.

We aren't confirmed to each other (which should be obvious considering that I've had GB on my mafia list for a while now). There hasn't been a lot said, aside from sharing a few reads on day one and a bit about his election powers.

GB was actually the person who told me to post the banana in the thread to confirm that I was really kita. He claims it was a coincidence, but I have a hard time believing that.

Show nested quote +
On August 23 2016 11:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Btw kita is 100% msfia


Let's take a look at that again:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2016 22:07 kitaman27 wrote:
Yeah GB and I have been part of a QT since day 1. Holyflare joined for 24 hours before he was shot by Skynx. We were the people talking about the democracy/fascism stuff in disfo's QT 2. We essentially stopped talking like 5 days ago.

We aren't confirmed to each other (which should be obvious considering that I've had GB on my mafia list for a while now). There hasn't been a lot said, aside from sharing a few reads on day one and a bit about his election powers.

GB was actually the person who told me to post the banana in the thread to confirm that I was really kita. He claims it was a coincidence, but I have a hard time believing that.

Kita you could have mentioned that Trfel was in there, too...
Because I really really don't think the first QT post is from either you, GB or HF (not to mention HF was pretty much dead at that time)... and I don't think either of you had any reason to try and pretend to be Trfel in there either.

So. Kita is pretty much 100% confirmed lying about the QT situation and has a very high chance of having been in a QT with trfel...

This seems to make kita confirmed scum
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 20:44 GMT
#4404
On August 27 2016 05:43 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2016 05:36 sicklucker wrote:
On August 27 2016 05:27 Rels wrote:
Like she asked this:

Questions for mods

(1) I haven't been flipped yet so (a) I assume I'm still town right? (b) and just infected with a vanilla-virus equivalent?
(2) Can I still post in thread? I got confused from the wording of the PM "you have been killed."

And a fucking host responded:

You have no abilities anymore, you still have the same alignment, you were not officially killed and flipped in a game sense, you may still post in the thread and act as a normal player, but you are now considered an undead servant of lunaticman and thus your interests and new secondary objective are now aligned with his.

She is literally mod confirmed.


no shes not tho the mod went out of his way to say "same alignment" just really fucking likely but not just for this one post but its part of it


This 1000%

HTS was trying to confirm herself as town to luna by purposely phrasing the question that way.

She knows that Palmar is never going to modconfirm her as town, but if Palmar responds to the question, it makes Luna think that she is.

I can tell you what was going to happen if she did that to frame herself town
Modkill.
Palmar doesn't like using host to play. He tries to be as invisible as possible.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 20:46 GMT
#4405
kita since we can apparently share QT wxithout problem can you post the link of that "QT 2" from disfo's post pretty please
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 20:47 GMT
#4406
The one this is from:
QT 2:

"I wonder if we can convince everyone to elect a dead man.

Not sketchy at all, right? XD"


"/m174 It was a huge coincidence, I never thought there would be bananas in the game"

"Yeah that one isn't me, though there may be another German player around.

I have a secondary condition for leading Europe to Democracy, so I assume there is a fascist counterpart. I guess that makes sense thematically if they have some type of nazi power."
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2016 20:54 GMT
#4409
This is like 10% scuminess at best this is super super weak. But he said he was in a QT with GB & HF - well, since we're allowed to share QTs I'm waiting for a link about it.
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