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[M][N] Onegu is the Best Host Mafia Part 2

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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 26 2016 21:59 GMT
#22
On July 26 2016 21:58 Race Bannon wrote:
ln as in §uß§criße

we got pictures

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#yourlywotohastoshotkeyed or you'll get catpaweeled like [9§]Water *hailiqwoπΣ®

These are the basic AB C? you need to drill into yourself like a toaster, a wot, a ... someone who sp33ks to himself lol
A luna

Is Race Bannon related to Alakaslam? They seem to speak the same language.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 04 2016 00:39 GMT
#67
/in
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 00:26:10
August 05 2016 00:19 GMT
#76
Need one more. Perhaps somebody with a very hot, fiery appendage. Too bad there's nobody sexy enough to meet that criteria.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 06 2016 22:36 GMT
#105
On August 07 2016 06:54 Tumblewood wrote:
confirmed town
Grackaroni

probably town
Grackaroni

null
Not Grackaroni

I think this game I'm just going to edit everybody's quotes to match my own understanding of their message. Great post Tumbles!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 06 2016 22:46 GMT
#111
On August 07 2016 07:44 Damdred wrote:
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On August 07 2016 07:39 Damdred wrote:
Disformation most likely scrum in thread, grac is second and hf is final scrum.

A strong Scum team,but easily solved.

Now I am well just working hard on the yard and waiting on interesting things in thread.


Rip idk why my phone moved hf to html but ebwop


That does seem like a pretty scary team. You have your work cut out for you.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 06 2016 23:01 GMT
#120
I'm just going to put out a warning that recently I have been making Saturday night my drunk mafia night and things could get a little dicey.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 00:35 GMT
#130
Are you excited to have the olympics in Brazil?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 05:00 GMT
#141
On August 07 2016 12:28 Stutters695 wrote:
Lynch all stutters. Discuss.

I am discussing. There are certainly merits to this proposal. For instance, a lot of Stutters seem to have a history of lurking. Not all of the Stutters! But still many Stutters. Ultimately, I have decided in favor of the Stutters because a Stutters has written a case on me last game that was well written. Therefore your lynch all Stutters policy is far too Stutters for my taste.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 07:14 GMT
#147
On August 07 2016 16:11 sicklucker wrote:
wanna just rng this shit

In all sincerity, yes. Let's do it. One of these days the random lynch is going to hit scum and it's going to be glorious.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 07:24 GMT
#149
How are you going to do it?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 13:43 GMT
#158
I don't see seconds being recorded in people's time stamps.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 17:30 GMT
#186
You're slipping Kushins. Get your shit together!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 17:46 GMT
#194
Kush, why were you trying to look for posts from Stutters' last game?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 17:52 GMT
#196
On August 08 2016 02:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Guys honestly I've been getting mislynched a lot lately so that's making me worried about getting mislynched which is making me look scummy.
Kind of like when you get soft once then next time you can't stop thinking about all the pressure so you get soft again.

Then your girlfriends like damn u need to see a doctor. But only you understand that it's not that at all.

This is incredibly scummy. This guy spends the last 20 games as town not giving a shit whether he gets mislynched. This game he gets questioned on some simple point and responds with what could only be described as verbal diarrhea. I'm not buying it.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 17:55 GMT
#198
I don't know what to say if you're town Kush. This has been the single worst response to a question I have ever seen in all of mafia.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 18:08 GMT
#202
On August 08 2016 03:01 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2016 02:55 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't know what to say if you're town Kush. This has been the single worst response to a question I have ever seen in all of mafia.


Wasn't your case that I care therefore I am mafia?
So How was my response anything but true?

No I write that a lot and it seems to fail as often as it hits. My case here is that you are acting uncharacteristically squirmy and you already recognized that your behavior had been scummy. You tried to explain away your actions by saying that you are especially concerned about being mislynched this game and that is why you are being scummy. I think you being scum is a lot more likely than this being true.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 18:11 GMT
#204
On August 08 2016 03:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
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On August 08 2016 03:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 03:01 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On August 08 2016 02:55 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't know what to say if you're town Kush. This has been the single worst response to a question I have ever seen in all of mafia.


Wasn't your case that I care therefore I am mafia?
So How was my response anything but true?

No I write that a lot and it seems to fail as often as it hits. My case here is that you are acting uncharacteristically squirmy and you already recognized that your behavior had been scummy. You tried to explain away your actions by saying that you are especially concerned about being mislynched this game and that is why you are being scummy. I think you being scum is a lot more likely than this being true.

And I'm saying my "squirminess" was merely me trolling you.

Good one. You got me. Vote stands.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 20:42 GMT
#229
On August 08 2016 04:46 Vivax wrote:
Did a quick ctrl-f of my name, no results so far.

Is the theory that only scum would try to deflect attention to me being afk for 1 half of D1 a shit theory or a good theory?
With the caveat that they'd have to be under pressure to do so, so is it safe to assume no scum so far was under pressure?
Or only scum that doesn't know my meta?

I like the way you think. Still shit theory because the game is like 4 pages long. It's pretty weak to try to direct the lynch on to somebody not posting when everyone else is equally guilty of that.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 20:44 GMT
#233
On August 08 2016 04:53 sicklucker wrote:
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On August 08 2016 02:05 Damdred wrote:
On August 08 2016 02:00 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@damdred about rng lynches. it's done for the lols not for the wins. Kind of sad that you actually felt the need to point out that rng lynches are suboptimal.

@hf nice catch on that lunaticman post. When I read it, I kinda thought he always opens like that half roleplaying like? Still I agree with you that the post is suspect.

@onegu the filters link to liquiddota... FIX IT...




Why is it sad that I have to point out something is suboptimal when there is are people who actually want to do it. Its sad that it is even brought up in the first place


if an rng day 1 lynch is sub optimal its not by much. acualy statistically its just as good as a day one lynch. the only thing that sucks about it is you have less to go on in day 2.

^ with the exception that I think you get plenty of information either way. you're never going to get an RNG wagon without detractors.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 20:47 GMT
#237
Ok so everybody seems to think that Kush is town and I am scum. 为什么?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 20:49 GMT
#239
On August 08 2016 05:43 Tumblewood wrote:
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On August 08 2016 05:34 disformation wrote:
What do you think of HF's points on Luna? The points HF makes are decent and Luna's filter is meh.

In the same vein:
@ tumble: can you try another approach of explaining why you don't like HF's scum read on Luna? Cause I am not really seeing it.

Going to look at Lunas town game. After that prolly going to look into kush and grack.

HF didn't critically evaluate it, in the sense that he saw something and plugged it into a mental checklist of things scum do without thinking, "huh, maybe he's town and just acting weird" as if he's never played with scrub town before. just very much 'see the forest for the trees'

If HF sees something on a mental checklist of things scum do then of course he should push it. Why do you think he shouldn't? There's nothing redeeming in Lunatic's filter yet.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 20:51 GMT
#241
On August 08 2016 05:49 Tumblewood wrote:
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On August 08 2016 05:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok so everybody seems to think that Kush is town and I am scum. 为什么?

yeah basically
can someone not wearing red-tinted glasses evaluate this reaction? I want to call it weird but I feel biased.

I should probably post in English. I want to know why.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 20:56 GMT
#245
You are going to frustrate me quite a bit this game Tumblewood.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 21:00 GMT
#247
On August 08 2016 05:59 Tumblewood wrote:
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On August 08 2016 05:56 Grackaroni wrote:
You are going to frustrate me quite a bit this game Tumblewood.

that's right

Not a good thing.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 21:43 GMT
#264
On August 08 2016 06:41 mderg wrote:
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On August 08 2016 06:37 Damdred wrote:
Considering Sl is advocating it and gave a reply to me in earnest, and kush did it and is voting for the person it landed on supposidly i haven't checked the math.

Grac is also heavily in favor of it. Have you actualy read the thread mderg?

I still don't think they're taking the rng lynch seriously.

No I was absolutely taking the rng lynch seriously. I'm a big fan. i think Kush is too even though he said that it was terrible and that he would only do it for the lulz.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 21:51 GMT
#267
Tumble why are you townreading Kush?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 21:57 GMT
#269
On August 08 2016 06:53 mderg wrote:
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On August 08 2016 06:45 Damdred wrote:
So now that you have proof that people are actually taking it seriously mderg does that change your stance?

Not really. To me it didn't look serious at all before you posted your criticism of rng lynches.

Your entire filter has been talking about the random lynch. I'm pretty amazed you can be scumreading somebody for this.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 22:27 GMT
#274
On August 08 2016 07:19 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2016 06:43 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 06:41 mderg wrote:
On August 08 2016 06:37 Damdred wrote:
Considering Sl is advocating it and gave a reply to me in earnest, and kush did it and is voting for the person it landed on supposidly i haven't checked the math.

Grac is also heavily in favor of it. Have you actualy read the thread mderg?

I still don't think they're taking the rng lynch seriously.

No I was absolutely taking the rng lynch seriously. I'm a big fan. i think Kush is too even though he said that it was terrible and that he would only do it for the lulz.

shouldnt you be voting me then?
really disliking this. will rethink tomorrow.

No because I want to lynch Kush. Or at the very least I want to see what HolyFlare says about Kush. If I don't think there's a really good case tomorrow my vote will be on you.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 22:47 GMT
#277
On August 08 2016 07:43 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2016 07:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 07:19 disformation wrote:
On August 08 2016 06:43 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 06:41 mderg wrote:
On August 08 2016 06:37 Damdred wrote:
Considering Sl is advocating it and gave a reply to me in earnest, and kush did it and is voting for the person it landed on supposidly i haven't checked the math.

Grac is also heavily in favor of it. Have you actualy read the thread mderg?

I still don't think they're taking the rng lynch seriously.

No I was absolutely taking the rng lynch seriously. I'm a big fan. i think Kush is too even though he said that it was terrible and that he would only do it for the lulz.

shouldnt you be voting me then?
really disliking this. will rethink tomorrow.

No because I want to lynch Kush. Or at the very least I want to see what HolyFlare says about Kush. If I don't think there's a really good case tomorrow my vote will be on you.

eh? "i want to lynch kush, but i might sheep whatever case i deem good, or just go for the rng lynch otherwise"

all them options kept open.
that post/attitude seems pretty scummy to me...
well really need to get some sleep. let me look at that again in the morning..

Or, "I'm town. I would like to lynch Kush because I think he's scum. If I don't see a lynch I like at the end of the day, I'm going to vote for the random lynch." It's only scummy when you apply your own narrative to the post.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 22:50 GMT
#278
I can see someone else accusing me of trying to back out of voting you. I don't see why you're raising a ruckus that I'm not voting for the random lynch of somebody you "know" is town.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 22:57 GMT
#279
You know what, your point is actually totally valid. My method of random lynching right now is super bad. If I'm going to support a random lynch then I absolutely have to commit to it from the start.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 07 2016 23:00 GMT
#280
I am sorry Palmar. I have brought great shame to the cause.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 08 2016 13:13 GMT
#330
Ok I've skimmed though this thing skipping whatever Shapelog wrote because long. Disformation is like a really bad lynch. Be back later to save myself and stuff.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 08 2016 14:48 GMT
#334
Ok here is the deal.

There are a lot of mafia reads on me because I post a lot and I don't usually have anything to say when I do post. This is the exact case that Stutters made in the last game that missed. I just like to post! You guys may be left wishing you kept me around if activity stays as it is.

This should only really be considered scummy when there are a lot of things to post about. Don't condemn me for posting a lot of useless things when so many people have posted nothing of value at all.

Disformation: A lot of people seemed to scum read him from the start because he was being congenial. Some people said that his questions seemed forced. I think they look fine. They're a bit more aggressive because I believe they are all in response to being voted or suspected. Disformation is one of the only people actively playing and I don't believe that mafia has shown any sign that they care about this lynch one way or another. Don't lynch. Town read for me. I have sacrificed ALL of my random lynch honor for this read and now the next time a random lynch is proposed I will be forced to silently weep the tears of lost opportunity. A pity!

Kushm4sta: This dude is seriously bad at scum as demonstrated by me:
On November 05 2014 13:37 Grackaroni wrote:
here are some funny Kush quotes from an old scum qt I remembered from the TL mafia database.
(this is an awesome place to go to if you want to study past games of a player in your game!)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database

kushykushkushPerson was signed in when posted
09-22-2013
02:22 AM ET (US)


here is a gift i am going to give to all of you. The gift of a 100% easy and correct way of reading my alignment.

I cannot read town filters as scum. I just tried and it's impossible. Too boring! But I do it as my primary scumhunting method as town.

kushykushkushPerson was signed in when posted
09-21-2013
09:57 AM ET (US)

please bus me i want my life to end

kushykushkushPerson was signed in when posted
09-21-2013
09:38 AM ET (US)

im so sad i got scum. everyone has permission to bus the shit out of me

kushykushkushPerson was signed in when posted
09-20-2013
10:58 PM ET (US)

nah im trash scum and i will bus all of you in the most obvious manner

Panicky Kush seemed a lot like mafia to me but literally nobody has agreed with my interpretation of the events. HolyFlare didn't comment on it at all, which is quite disappointing.

Lunatic: Based off the last two games he seems to have pretty strong differences between his town play and scum play. I'd actually give him another day if possible. I don't think his lack of posting is too condemning yet. I think for his town play, you will know it when you see it.

Shapelog: Lol ok so it turns out that the only person that agreed with me I skimmed over. I like this guy.

The case on me:
This one is a potent combination of weak meta and bad reading comprehension as well as devotion to random lynching. For the latter, I am not ashamed! I lived by the random lynch. And I shall die by the random lynch! But not anymore because I have betrayed the cause in most heinous fashion, indeed!

First the meta:
On August 08 2016 17:57 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2016 07:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 07:19 disformation wrote:
On August 08 2016 06:43 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 06:41 mderg wrote:
On August 08 2016 06:37 Damdred wrote:
Considering Sl is advocating it and gave a reply to me in earnest, and kush did it and is voting for the person it landed on supposidly i haven't checked the math.

Grac is also heavily in favor of it. Have you actualy read the thread mderg?

I still don't think they're taking the rng lynch seriously.

No I was absolutely taking the rng lynch seriously. I'm a big fan. i think Kush is too even though he said that it was terrible and that he would only do it for the lulz.

shouldnt you be voting me then?
really disliking this. will rethink tomorrow.

No because I want to lynch Kush. Or at the very least I want to see what HolyFlare says about Kush. If I don't think there's a really good case tomorrow my vote will be on you.


ya i kind of want to lynch you because you went after town kush last game too. and im reading him pretty town

On August 08 2016 17:58 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2016 07:43 disformation wrote:
On August 08 2016 07:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 07:19 disformation wrote:
On August 08 2016 06:43 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 08 2016 06:41 mderg wrote:
On August 08 2016 06:37 Damdred wrote:
Considering Sl is advocating it and gave a reply to me in earnest, and kush did it and is voting for the person it landed on supposidly i haven't checked the math.

Grac is also heavily in favor of it. Have you actualy read the thread mderg?

I still don't think they're taking the rng lynch seriously.

No I was absolutely taking the rng lynch seriously. I'm a big fan. i think Kush is too even though he said that it was terrible and that he would only do it for the lulz.

shouldnt you be voting me then?
really disliking this. will rethink tomorrow.

No because I want to lynch Kush. Or at the very least I want to see what HolyFlare says about Kush. If I don't think there's a really good case tomorrow my vote will be on you.

eh? "i want to lynch kush, but i might sheep whatever case i deem good, or just go for the rng lynch otherwise"

all them options kept open.
that post/attitude seems pretty scummy to me...
well really need to get some sleep. let me look at that again in the morning..


pretty much how he played scum last game...

On August 08 2016 17:58 sicklucker wrote:
acualy its way too similar. just gonna park my vote on him and call it a cycle



Voting for the same person as you did when you were scum is such a bad application of meta. The cases are also completely different. My suspicion of Kush is based off specific posts he made in the game. In my scum game it was mostly based off a general sense of trying to look useful while contributing nothing. Also I think this game is way closer to my last game than 72 hours.

Now for the reading comprehension fail part of the case:

On August 08 2016 05:42 Grackaroni wrote:
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On August 08 2016 04:46 Vivax wrote:
Did a quick ctrl-f of my name, no results so far.

Is the theory that only scum would try to deflect attention to me being afk for 1 half of D1 a shit theory or a good theory?
With the caveat that they'd have to be under pressure to do so, so is it safe to assume no scum so far was under pressure?
Or only scum that doesn't know my meta?

I like the way you think. Still shit theory because the game is like 4 pages long. It's pretty weak to try to direct the lynch on to somebody not posting when everyone else is equally guilty of that.

Here is the post in question. I like the way Vivax was thinking because he was keeping an eye on the larger trends of the game, which I like to do as well. I said it was a bad theory because it's pretty hard for mafia to accuse somebody afk for not posting when the entire game, likely all of their filters included, is a big lurk fest.

On August 08 2016 06:20 disformation wrote:
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On August 08 2016 06:19 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 08 2016 06:13 disformation wrote:
On August 08 2016 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
oh and now I bet you're gonna ask for the explanation
a) likes the way vivax thinks (lmao)
b) echoing vivax but as if he's having a conversation with him and pointing to the rest of the thread and saying, "I know, right?" like, town tends to talk one-on-one with people only when they're arguing and it's unnatural to make that post.

Eh, I am not really getting it. Might be a language barrier thing? Dunno.

Also after reading the exchange between Grack and Kush again, there is def. something off, but I think kush looks slightly worse.
Grack did have some posts between his opener (which I liked) and before the exchange that where meh.
On the other hand I read kush wrong quite often...

Can you ppl explain what made you dislike Grack in that exchange?

basically
town doesn't tell people, "hey, just wanted to let you know I agree with your post"

Wasn't it more like a "hey nice idea, but because of x it isn't actually very valid."
Mh... well yeah that actually doesn't tell us what Grack thinks of Vivax at all. xD

Here is the German guy with the correct take on the post.

On August 08 2016 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
oh and now I bet you're gonna ask for the explanation
a) likes the way vivax thinks (lmao)
b) echoing vivax but as if he's having a conversation with him and pointing to the rest of the thread and saying, "I know, right?" like, town tends to talk one-on-one with people only when they're arguing and it's unnatural to make that post.

Now here is the American guy who seems to have his own interpretation of the English language.

On Tumblewood: Don't write off this guy too quickly. I think a lot of people liked his aggression and may think he is town. He was the most aggressive player in 72 hours as well. Chainsaw attack on HolyFlare for calling out Lunatic was completely ridiculous.
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 14:59 GMT
#340
On August 08 2016 23:58 Holyflare wrote:
someone tl dr why we're voting disfo/grack?

I'm bad at keeping my mouth shut. Disfo is combination of random lynch and his entrance posts.
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 15:01 GMT
#344
On August 08 2016 23:59 Holyflare wrote:
so what you're saying is that people are voting disfo for entrance posts but ignoring luna's entrance posts??? who are these mafia people?

Well the wagon for Disfo is just GB who has been tunneled on him since then. Kush who is random lynching. And Lunatic for I have no idea what reason.
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 15:02 GMT
#346
Also me because I had to follow my random lynch heart. Now I am broken inside.
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August 08 2016 16:03 GMT
#357
On August 09 2016 00:37 Lunaticman wrote:
Also Grac, it's kinda funny how you are being scumread for doing exactly what I was doing.

I'm actually like a scum read magnet for every day one because I don't like to post too many cursory reads.
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 16:06 GMT
#358
HF what were your thoughts on the Kush incident?
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 16:10 GMT
#359
I'm not so sure I want to lynch Mderg.
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August 08 2016 16:35 GMT
#362
Meh we can wait another day on Kush.
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 16:53 GMT
#363
lol this day is definitely ending in my lynch. I hate this trend in mafia. Too many players like Stutters/Sicklucker who don't post at all on day 1 who will come back to accuse me at the end of the day for having a long empty filter and not finding the mafia.
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 17:37 GMT
#377
On August 09 2016 02:36 Damdred wrote:
Honestly shape is a pretty easy town read currently I think.

At least for today

Agreed.
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 20:27 GMT
#440
On August 09 2016 00:52 Lunaticman wrote:
I think Kush is actually telling the truth on the matter of not wanting to die. But it feels like a lame excuse. Any VT would fight way more against a lynch like that when they have time to post.

I don't think Kush is the way to go based on his filter. I have a better hunch about Damdred or GlowingBear. Both of their filters are enough content to avoid a day 1 lynch and missdirection, typical mafia behaviour.


This Lunatic post is a post that I think would draw a lot of unwarranted suspicion just from disagreeing with the current lynch targets and proposing people not currently being suspected while also avoiding the most useless people. I think it's more likely to be his actual way of reading the game than mafia play.

Also Glowingbear's continued push on Disinfo reads a bit red to me just because he didn't comment on anything at all that's happened since he was last here and Disinfo has been posting quite a bit since he was gone.

Kush is definitely my favorite lynch of the bunch right now.
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 20:30 GMT
#442
On August 09 2016 05:03 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 03:16 disformation wrote:
Oh wow. SL, kush, tumble and luna were all in 72h with scum!grack. Any comments on meta/feels if you haven't already?
luna, sl, kush were town and tumble also scum that game btw.


following his meta to a T. excuses complaining not doing anything

If you think this game has a lot of excuses and complaining you should check out my last game. The chain of events was quite similar to this game with a lot of lurking by town and a lot of complaining and not doing anything by me.
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 20:38 GMT
#451
On August 09 2016 05:37 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 05:33 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 09 2016 05:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 09 2016 00:52 Lunaticman wrote:
I think Kush is actually telling the truth on the matter of not wanting to die. But it feels like a lame excuse. Any VT would fight way more against a lynch like that when they have time to post.

I don't think Kush is the way to go based on his filter. I have a better hunch about Damdred or GlowingBear. Both of their filters are enough content to avoid a day 1 lynch and missdirection, typical mafia behaviour.


This Lunatic post is a post that I think would draw a lot of unwarranted suspicion just from disagreeing with the current lynch targets and proposing people not currently being suspected while also avoiding the most useless people. I think it's more likely to be his actual way of reading the game than mafia play.

Also Glowingbear's continued push on Disinfo reads a bit red to me just because he didn't comment on anything at all that's happened since he was last here and Disinfo has been posting quite a bit since he was gone.

Kush is definitely my favorite lynch of the bunch right now.


Finally someone that understands that not EVERY PLAYER IN MAFIA. Uses logical deduction skills first to find contradictions etc. Hunches is a thing people.


Lol, I don't either XD.
I just say what ever is off the top of my head, and get the sweet rush of success when i find out post game, I have 2-1 mafia right Day 1.

Yeah but you've got the super analysis coming out from the hosting QTs
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 20:39 GMT
#454
You ready to get on the Kush wagon HF?
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August 08 2016 21:10 GMT
#483
On August 09 2016 06:09 mderg wrote:
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On August 09 2016 06:07 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:04 Shapelog wrote:
Urg......

3-3-3-2

That is the votes rn.

I also feel it is strange that dis and Grac has changed their votes two times each.

Can I ask Why?

Both were the leading wagons, so voting for each other early on makes sense?


I don't think so, if you are town I probably am fine with sacrificing myself if I can get a 1 for one 1 trade. Unless you are sure the other player is mafia the vote wont really yield any information. It is better to place it on who you actually believe to be mafia. For the next day.

It is better to proc lame your innocence with words, or even go so far as to self vote. Showing that you do not fear death.


Be careful, you're going into strong wifom territory here.

Shhh. Let Lunatic do his thing. Then we all move onto Kush or me or whoever. Then I drink some wine.
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 21:28 GMT
#507
On August 09 2016 06:27 Holyflare wrote:
you guys are so uncoordinated when I don't lead, it's cute


EVERYONE PILE ON HOLYFLAAAAAAAARE
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 21:31 GMT
#516
If we can't get votes on Kush I'd actually be fine with a GB lynch.
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 21:39 GMT
#532
The GB lynch has HF, but the Kush lynch has damdred. DAMDRED. Think on that for a second!
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 21:40 GMT
#537
On August 09 2016 06:40 Holyflare wrote:
Okay, here's an ultimatum.

I'm holding you hostage and yolo voting GB.

Ok think on this, if Kush is scum I'm holding you hostage later in the game.
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 21:43 GMT
#543
On August 09 2016 06:40 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 06:39 disformation wrote:
So 22mins left and we are at:
3
1
3
2
2

that is not looking better!

well if you stop whining and follow my plan, that won't be an issue.

You haven't even given a plan.
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 21:44 GMT
#545
Oh actually you have. I will abide by the rules of Tumblewood's plan!
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 21:50 GMT
#559
I'm trying to decide which wagon is more likely to have scum and I can't decide.
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 21:55 GMT
#576
Ok my wine is ready. I am ready for the incoming blame but at least I did not give HolyFlare the satisfaction.
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 21:59 GMT
#590
lol hes town
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August 08 2016 22:20 GMT
#609
On August 09 2016 07:16 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 07:15 Damdred wrote:
Meh stuff happens, it wasn't a bad lynch though in any case.

And while I understand your frustration hf just kind of not sure if Gb was scum meh.

And shape I disagree with right now.


kush was never a good lynch he played way to woe is me and wasn't even here and he blatantly played shit on purpose, gb was feigning any kind of involvement in this game

If you felt so strongly about the lynch you should have said something in defense of Kush beforehand instead of raging afterwards. We aren't mind readers.
Grackaroni
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August 08 2016 23:03 GMT
#624
On August 09 2016 07:55 sicklucker wrote:
were actually in the twilight zone. I dont even care if grac is town im killing him because its way too creepy

Sounds good to me. That means that I'll have to bus GB day 2 and then I'll lynch you day 3 to close out the victory. No more posty because I have to prepare for my magnificent 5000th shit post.
Grackaroni
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August 09 2016 02:34 GMT
#641
The shit post pressure was too much! AAAAH. Meh I think this one was shitty enough.
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August 09 2016 03:20 GMT
#643
On August 09 2016 11:54 Tumblewood wrote:
Huh, that was grack's 5000th

I'll get another 5000 eventually. That's when the real shit posting begins!
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August 09 2016 16:22 GMT
#693
On August 10 2016 00:26 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 23:03 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:56 mderg wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:44 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:38 mderg wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:31 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:19 mderg wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:13 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 09 2016 21:57 mderg wrote:
On August 09 2016 21:49 Lunaticman wrote:
[quote]

Mderg tell me who is mafia.

I don't know but I for sure don't like your position in this game.


you know I think your town because a mafia wouldn't say something so stupid.


Tell me what makes you not scum mister I didn't like the kush lynch therefore I'm town.


Yes it was more profound than that but "ok", if you want your entire filter to consist of why I am scum that's fine with me. I got a challenge for you. Post something that doesn't involve shading me and see what pops up.

Honestly your not worth my time.

I don't want to write anything that could get me into trouble, so I'll just say this condescending attitude of yours doesn't make me like you more.


You sound like Skynx 2.0, and you still didn't answer my question.

I mean if you don't want to scum hunt don't blame me for it.

How about you start explaining why you are town, so a stupid 3 year old like me can understand?


Why don't you give me a list of who you think is mafia besides me and reason, and I might explain it again.

I still don't really like grack, after he cried about getting lynched and people leaving his wagon, he hasn't done jack shit. Like a scum feeling safe again and deciding to leave it at that. I get that his opening was very active and he boldly pushed a kush lynch quite a bit. But that's not too strange for scum to do.

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Grackaroni
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August 09 2016 16:26 GMT
#694
Don't worry Mr. lunatic, I am on the case!
Grackaroni
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August 09 2016 19:04 GMT
#704
So I reread through the game and ended up with nothing. To make it up to you I bring you:

Grackaroni's Couples Counseling

On August 08 2016 05:20 Damdred wrote:
I honestly kind of felt like i would love this game with the player list but i'm kind of depressed every time i enter into it, which is kinda meh hf won't even talk to me so far :'(.

In any sense you still can't read me Sl and no idea why not (this case just me not posting much to go on).

The first cracks in the relationship began to form due to a lack of communication. Holyflare did not make it clear to Damdred that he was being heard and appreciated! And I'm afraid the pain of Holyflare's neglect left a void in Damdred. He began to have thoughts of another. An incredibly sexy individual who had shown his faithfulness before.
On August 07 2016 08:10 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2016 07:55 disformation wrote:
Wait damdy, just to clarify:
On August 07 2016 07:39 Damdred wrote:
Disformation most likely scrum in thread, grac is second and html is final scrum.

A strong Scum team,but easily solved.

Now I am well just working hard on the yard and waiting on interesting things in thread.

This was like 3mins after Gracks first post:
On August 07 2016 07:36 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 07 2016 06:54 Tumblewood wrote:
confirmed town
Grackaroni

probably town
Grackaroni

null
Not Grackaroni

I think this game I'm just going to edit everybody's quotes to match my own understanding of their message. Great post Tumbles!


You later TR Grack for this post.
Did you just miss the post and throw him into the scum list for the lulz like HF?


I read it and generally thought hi tone was downy then and just wanted to have fun before getting serious. Ever since I've seen him lately I always have a high regard if him.

I admit it! It is true. My penetrating logic goes deep! But surely I did not beguile him with my posts this game. The responsibility, I do not bear! For it was he who surreptitiously ogled my play, and he sought out to do the deed. And now I'm afraid what comes next you cannot unsee!
On August 09 2016 06:36 Damdred wrote:
Honestly here's where I stand, lunatics little suspicion on me is borderline cute. But I can probably see a newbie town fall into a narrative instead of a scum who's trying to survive. I still don't like the soft pushes with very little substance to back it up or a real push on who he wants to lynch. But I think it's enough for me not to want to kill him today and 're evaluate tonight tomorrow with a clear head and more information.

Gb while I agree I dislike the play he is doing I also don't know if it's worth a lynch yet. I've seen him do this a few times as town and he matched my thought process at points and lives scum reading me as both alignments. So I am a little pocketed.

All in all I think kush is the best lynch, we gain not Mich in the way of information but if you compare his last few town games he has done nothing like this in any. Even when he was super ark and for lynched he at least had some reads in the thread.

Anywya vote kush

Most heinous betrayal! Damdred has abandoned his steady, reliable relationship with Holyflare for another with more flare! I flashed my squirm case in front of him, and he ran away with me ignoring the pleas of the affronted Holyflare. Alas, it is true!
On August 09 2016 10:39 Holyflare wrote:
You know what makes me sad? It's that after all this time my good friend Damdred has ignored my wishes to kill GlowingBear who I read so well and regularly lynch when he's mafia to lynch some random kushm4sta. Where is his passion for this game gone? Why would he do such a boring lynch?

Damdred I'm not angry at you but just know that I am extremely disappointed, I will remember your actions for a long time.

I feel like my tyrannical reign of lynch making has come to an end of an era. I must reinstate myself as the top player on this site and continue my rule.

After watching with horror, Holyflare vents his anger. How dare you abandon me at the sight of the slightest squirm! I am not mad. I am only disappointed!
On August 10 2016 00:00 Holyflare wrote:
Yes but now you have to say that you're going to follow me and lynch GB and nobody else tomorrow Damdred.

Finally, Holyflare reveals his controlling nature, which may have been the cause of Damdred's unfaithfulness from the start! I'm afraid the relationship is doomed.

Dibs on Holyflare.
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August 09 2016 19:16 GMT
#708
On August 10 2016 04:13 Lunaticman wrote:
@Grac wtf did I just read. I must admit I laughed at the first paragraph but man oh man.

The truth is difficult, but it must be heard. The damdred/HF romance has come to an end. I am sorry Lunatic.
Grackaroni
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August 09 2016 19:21 GMT
#713
When I said I made no conclusions that's actually not completely true. I like Tumblewood now because every single post he made left me scratching my head. I figure there's just no way he's coming up with this stuff as scum lol.
Grackaroni
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August 09 2016 20:59 GMT
#748
On August 10 2016 05:55 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 05:51 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 10 2016 05:48 Shapelog wrote:
On August 10 2016 05:46 disformation wrote:
On August 10 2016 05:42 disformation wrote:
Oh yeah that was the thing HF basically entered the game with. Def. looking at filters for too long.

On August 08 2016 01:19 disformation wrote:
On August 08 2016 01:00 Holyflare wrote:
##vote Lunaticman

Yeah, that is cool and everything, but could we get an explanation? And/or some reads?

no comment on me missing that. xD
Yeah, he came in with a luna vote for his entry and later backed up towards EoD when luna started posting a lot more and had the posts about putting their votes in different places.
Actually I like the progression on Luna, cause that were def. the better posts of Luna.

You passed my test.
Still like him for D1 reasons. He is getting Narcissistic more and more as the game goes on, and seems to be infecting others with it. But w/e. I like his Pushy tone/well pushes, and his posting overall is good. His read on Lunatic did seem to change quickly in regards to how much he was pushing Lunatic. Which actually might be a townie, due to Scum!HF not only having the thread supporting (at the time) on a lunatic lynch, but also starting another lynch (GB) later instead of pushing the one he already had. Might be worth relooking at this though if lunatic flips mafia.


I'm tired what does this mean?

We talking about HF's progression on his read on you.

What I am saying is basically this: HF comes and pushes you. Calls you 100% mafia, and basically just really up for your death. You come back and start posting, and HF somewhat quickly loosens up on his read on you. Quickly enough, to where I feel that it is too quick for scum (I feel scum would continue it for a bit longer). And, during a time that you were viewed as a good lynch. So instead of pushing you, when he could easily do during then, and drop off later if needed. He changed his mind, and even pushed another lynch instead.

HF is definitely smart enough to see that he would have to drop his Luna push as scum. I still think the scum is GB and not HF though between the two. Plus day post may reveal more on that front.
Grackaroni
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August 09 2016 21:54 GMT
#757
Quick Holyflare, shout out some random wifom!
Grackaroni
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August 09 2016 22:05 GMT
#768
7-3
Vig should probably just claim now imo.
Grackaroni
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August 09 2016 22:14 GMT
#773
On August 10 2016 07:08 Holyflare wrote:
why on earth would the vig claim, no thanks

Because I'd rather have the information now. We could be at lylo day 3 and there could be a fake claim by then that would require every townie to vote correctly to win.
Grackaroni
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August 09 2016 22:18 GMT
#775
On August 10 2016 07:17 Damdred wrote:
I shoat vivamx.

Thlere happiy noew

Actually quite. But Holyflare is probably pissed.
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August 10 2016 01:12 GMT
#807
I'm not sure what gif to post. Help me Shapelog!
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August 10 2016 01:15 GMT
#809
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August 10 2016 01:43 GMT
#818
On August 10 2016 10:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Let Holyflare lynch me, when I flip green, you lynch holyflare.

You think he is fake claiming as mafia to get you lynched? Why would he take the risk to do that?
Grackaroni
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August 10 2016 01:48 GMT
#821
On August 10 2016 10:47 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 10:43 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 10 2016 10:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Let Holyflare lynch me, when I flip green, you lynch holyflare.

You think he is fake claiming as mafia to get you lynched? Why would he take the risk to do that?

That actually is a fair point to be honest.

It's actually pretty useless. I just want to see if I can understand his mindset on the off chance he's town.
Grackaroni
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August 10 2016 01:57 GMT
#823
It actually is a fair point, but it's like throwing a handful of sand on the top of Glowingbear's grave after Holyflare already buried him with a bulldozer.
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August 10 2016 02:06 GMT
#827
Are you coming out with your theory?
Grackaroni
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August 10 2016 02:10 GMT
#833
On August 10 2016 11:08 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 11:06 Holyflare wrote:
Jk/ 1 shot vig /cop isn't really imbalanced anyway

Eh, Maybe its because I never played with that kind of set up rofl.
Grack, is he right?
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 11:06 Grackaroni wrote:
Are you coming out with your theory?

lol, I thought he said end of cycle.

Yeah but then he quoted the post!

I figured that HF was just doing a Rayn lol. 1 shot should be possible with a miller. I don't really know that much about balance.
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August 10 2016 02:13 GMT
#837
On August 10 2016 11:12 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 10:57 Grackaroni wrote:
It actually is a fair point, but it's like throwing a handful of sand on the top of Glowingbear's grave after Holyflare already buried him with a bulldozer.


Yes? How did he prove I was mafia? Please, enlighten me.

Well your reaction hasn't seemed townie.
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August 10 2016 02:16 GMT
#842
On August 10 2016 11:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 11:13 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 10 2016 11:12 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 10 2016 10:57 Grackaroni wrote:
It actually is a fair point, but it's like throwing a handful of sand on the top of Glowingbear's grave after Holyflare already buried him with a bulldozer.


Yes? How did he prove I was mafia? Please, enlighten me.

Well your reaction hasn't seemed townie.


My reaction to what? What reaction did you expect?

The one where you don't call out Holyflare's cop claim as mafia trying to mislynch you. That's just not a good idea for him. He would go from one of the most town read people to one of the least by a lot of people in this game, and what would he gain? A mislynch that he was pretty much guaranteed to get anyway.
Grackaroni
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August 10 2016 02:56 GMT
#854
Ok my top GB Wagon Suspect:
On August 09 2016 06:12 sicklucker wrote:
Honestly lynching is always better then no lynching and im not sure any of the wagons are town like I usually am in this spot. So ill be putting whoevers leading over the top if it comes to it even lunatic

The guy who promised to consolidate and then never showed up. He was town reading Kush and had already said GB could be mafia so he would have been forced to vote GB if he posted.
Grackaroni
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August 10 2016 15:46 GMT
#946
On August 10 2016 15:32 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 10:35 Shapelog wrote:
On August 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
For real I am actually without a doubt claiming cop. GlowingBear is mafia.

I'm salty as fuck I didn't get jk'd btw.

I'm claiming because vivax has flipped miller so the likelihood of a framer is 0% and 2 millers would be pretty bull shit. I'm thinking it's prob gf/rb/mafia

I get counter claimed and you lynch me for 2 free mafia. Townies do not even thin abouy fake claiming to defend me.

So we have Jk/Vig/Cop??

That doesn't make sense at all in a /13, unless there is either more to your role, or mafia has something to = it.
Actually maybe it kinda does if JK is valued at .5 cannot remember honestly


this. but if hf is fake claiming when were not even in lylo I dont see the point.. either way its a 1 for 1 trade afk for the day.

At least if gb is scum I look very town as he was trying to pocket me and vote with him

lol wat. 6 minutes after your first post of the day, "I've got my connection ready to prove that I can't possibly be mafia with Glowingbear!!! He asked me to vote with him this one time. Mafia would NEVER do that!"
Grackaroni
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August 10 2016 15:48 GMT
#947
Dunno what all this miller stuff is about. If SL is mafia without GB or HF then he would just assume that HF is making some dumb fake claim rather than 2 millers. Role cop theory seems more like town tinfoil than a slip to me.
Grackaroni
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August 10 2016 22:00 GMT
#954
This game is going to start to get good after we wait 6 days to lynch Glowingbear and Stutters in succession.
Grackaroni
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August 11 2016 01:46 GMT
#974
I think vote count analysis is fair game with a red check and a day that's already a foregone conclusion.
Grackaroni
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August 11 2016 01:46 GMT
#976
If GB is somehow actually miller I'll probably lynch HF over SL.
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August 11 2016 01:47 GMT
#977
On August 11 2016 10:46 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 10:41 Shapelog wrote:
Furthermore,
On August 09 2016 06:51 disformation wrote:
well according to tw's plan now is the time to move to the person with the most votes. since that is still kush. I will move there. can we PLEASE have two more ppl?

This is literally less then a min before his post announcing he (me'derg) was going to change.

If your going to do VCA, Please be arsed to look at the timestamps so I don't to waste my time going over them myself to double check your work.

Ok sweetie?
Ok.

Actually I take it back now. I being dumb.

I thought you were saying that Me'derg was scum with GB over not switching till like after after. I get what you talking about now.

Still going to call you sweetie to imply the fact I am more masculine then you.
Sweetie.

That's nice, dear.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 11 2016 02:09 GMT
#982
On August 11 2016 10:50 Shapelog wrote:
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On August 11 2016 10:42 GlowingBear wrote:
Also I think grackaroni is Mafia. His approach to the thread is still of someone who is ready to accuse everyone, yet it doesn't seems he is thinking critically about all players alignments

I saw that too, but I enjoy shitposting with him too much to actively do anything to deter him.

Nonsense. I'm best known for my critical thinking ability! No but really most of my play so far has been doing the opposite of what Glowingbear says. I've mostly just looked for townies. When you supported my Kushm4sta lynch I doubled down on that but other than that I haven't really been accusing anyone.

Memory summary as follows:

Day 1 I burst out laughing at the Kushm4sta HF conversation and was convinced that Kushm4sta was scum this game from his complete collapse.

Then I liked disinformation just from a general sense that he was posting a lot and seemed like he was actually trying to figure out the game and I thought that overweighed anything GB was nitpicking on.

Then I liked shape just because he posts a lot. Also he was scumreading Kush lol.

I kind of disliked Lunatic from his opening post but wanted to give him another day.

I called GB scum from his seemed indifference to the game while still trying to advocate his own read during the lynch rather than deferring to anyone actually playing the game

I liked Lunatic at the end of the day for meta reasons

Then I liked Tumblewood after a reread even though his reasoning was annoying me a lot during the actual day

I've laid off Holyflare just because he's been creating the same team as I have and now he has a red check.

Damdred is confirmed town now. I kind of liked his tone during day 1 but I don't think I said anything about him because why should I.

That leaves me with a pool of GB/Stutters/Mderg/SL which I think is the exact same pool as HF.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 11 2016 02:32 GMT
#983
The redeeming factor for SL is that I think he probably wouldn't make the Tumblewood kill since his game plan for today was to push me and Tumblewood probably would have gotten on that train a second time. Shapelog kill would make more sense leaving GB to argue with HF for a cycle.

Still not posting at all at the end of the day looks bad to me when he said he would consolidate. I could totally picture SL in the scum QT watching HF try to gather supporters for the GB lynch and choosing not to post to avoid switching his vote.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 11 2016 02:40 GMT
#984
Actually perhaps that suggests that Shapelog is mafia since Mderg was doing the same. (Even though it probably implies that I'm mafia to most of you lol. But I'm not! I'm as green as this cat, SSson)
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 11 2016 02:54 GMT
#985
Holyflare can confirm the greenness of the cat. I am appointing him to my executive alignment determining task force. For this game he shall be considered the foremost scholar on Grackaroni studies. After this game his read on me should be considered terrible as usual.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 11 2016 03:19 GMT
#986
On August 10 2016 00:26 mderg wrote:
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On August 09 2016 23:03 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:56 mderg wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:44 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:38 mderg wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:31 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:19 mderg wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:13 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 09 2016 21:57 mderg wrote:
On August 09 2016 21:49 Lunaticman wrote:
[quote]

Mderg tell me who is mafia.

I don't know but I for sure don't like your position in this game.


you know I think your town because a mafia wouldn't say something so stupid.


Tell me what makes you not scum mister I didn't like the kush lynch therefore I'm town.


Yes it was more profound than that but "ok", if you want your entire filter to consist of why I am scum that's fine with me. I got a challenge for you. Post something that doesn't involve shading me and see what pops up.

Honestly your not worth my time.

I don't want to write anything that could get me into trouble, so I'll just say this condescending attitude of yours doesn't make me like you more.


You sound like Skynx 2.0, and you still didn't answer my question.

I mean if you don't want to scum hunt don't blame me for it.

How about you start explaining why you are town, so a stupid 3 year old like me can understand?


Why don't you give me a list of who you think is mafia besides me and reason, and I might explain it again.

"again"


I'm fairly confident there's a scum between Vivax/Stutters/GB just based of the fact that they didn't do shit. The wagons this game don't really give me the feeling of being scum driven with how much back and forth there was between them. That makes me think at least one scum has to be hiding in the not doing shit pile.
I guess you could put sicklucker into the same pile but he somehow feels different. Like he just does whatever he wants and doesn't give a shit about how others see him (minus hf)

I still don't really like grack, after he cried about getting lynched and people leaving his wagon, he hasn't done jack shit. Like a scum feeling safe again and deciding to leave it at that. I get that his opening was very active and he boldly pushed a kush lynch quite a bit. But that's not too strange for scum to do.

The rest of the game is a bit of a mess. I don't ever want to lynch tumble. Also don't want to lynch shape. disfo had a strange opening but the rest of his game seemed fine to me. Damdred is disappointing but had like one post I really liked. Holyflare I didn't really like but his insane narcissism makes me lean towards town on him.

Also vengeance time. My tears have dried, but the emotional scars run deep. Mderg hasn't done anything since he callously drew attention to my crying in the corner. For shame!

But really, it's pretty weak to accuse me of doing nothing when his end of day vote was on Kushm4sta for the posts that I didn't like.

This post below is also suspect since his attitude towards people not doing anything seems a bit different when choosing his vote than earlier in the day and after the vote.
On August 09 2016 06:44 mderg wrote:
I don't really like this GB lynch stuff. Gb hasn't done jack shit but this feels a bit like an easy way out.


On Kush not doing anything earlier:
On August 09 2016 03:26 mderg wrote:
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On August 09 2016 03:22 Shapelog wrote:
I was talking about Kush's equation lol. I just posted a Gif.


I was also talking about kush. I guess the "you" was a bit misleading. Seeing that kush hasn't done anything since then makes me a bit uncomfortable.

On Vivax/Stutters/GB after the lynch is in the top post, but it's the same "these afks would make good votes."
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 11 2016 04:38 GMT
#989
On August 11 2016 13:28 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 11 2016 10:46 Grackaroni wrote:
If GB is somehow actually miller I'll probably lynch HF over SL.


Why would you lynch Holyflare when it would confirm he is the cop after all?

Because role cop. But it's not going to happen because 2 millers is crazy and you're mafia.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 11 2016 14:15 GMT
#1033
On August 11 2016 17:13 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 12:19 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 10 2016 00:26 mderg wrote:
On August 09 2016 23:03 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:56 mderg wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:44 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:38 mderg wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:31 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:19 mderg wrote:
On August 09 2016 22:13 Lunaticman wrote:
[quote]

you know I think your town because a mafia wouldn't say something so stupid.


Tell me what makes you not scum mister I didn't like the kush lynch therefore I'm town.


Yes it was more profound than that but "ok", if you want your entire filter to consist of why I am scum that's fine with me. I got a challenge for you. Post something that doesn't involve shading me and see what pops up.

Honestly your not worth my time.

I don't want to write anything that could get me into trouble, so I'll just say this condescending attitude of yours doesn't make me like you more.


You sound like Skynx 2.0, and you still didn't answer my question.

I mean if you don't want to scum hunt don't blame me for it.

How about you start explaining why you are town, so a stupid 3 year old like me can understand?


Why don't you give me a list of who you think is mafia besides me and reason, and I might explain it again.

"again"


I'm fairly confident there's a scum between Vivax/Stutters/GB just based of the fact that they didn't do shit. The wagons this game don't really give me the feeling of being scum driven with how much back and forth there was between them. That makes me think at least one scum has to be hiding in the not doing shit pile.
I guess you could put sicklucker into the same pile but he somehow feels different. Like he just does whatever he wants and doesn't give a shit about how others see him (minus hf)

I still don't really like grack, after he cried about getting lynched and people leaving his wagon, he hasn't done jack shit. Like a scum feeling safe again and deciding to leave it at that. I get that his opening was very active and he boldly pushed a kush lynch quite a bit. But that's not too strange for scum to do.

The rest of the game is a bit of a mess. I don't ever want to lynch tumble. Also don't want to lynch shape. disfo had a strange opening but the rest of his game seemed fine to me. Damdred is disappointing but had like one post I really liked. Holyflare I didn't really like but his insane narcissism makes me lean towards town on him.

Also vengeance time. My tears have dried, but the emotional scars run deep. Mderg hasn't done anything since he callously drew attention to my crying in the corner. For shame!

But really, it's pretty weak to accuse me of doing nothing when his end of day vote was on Kushm4sta for the posts that I didn't like.

This post below is also suspect since his attitude towards people not doing anything seems a bit different when choosing his vote than earlier in the day and after the vote.
On August 09 2016 06:44 mderg wrote:
I don't really like this GB lynch stuff. Gb hasn't done jack shit but this feels a bit like an easy way out.


On Kush not doing anything earlier:
On August 09 2016 03:26 mderg wrote:
On August 09 2016 03:22 Shapelog wrote:
I was talking about Kush's equation lol. I just posted a Gif.


I was also talking about kush. I guess the "you" was a bit misleading. Seeing that kush hasn't done anything since then makes me a bit uncomfortable.

On Vivax/Stutters/GB after the lynch is in the top post, but it's the same "these afks would make good votes."

What does me voting kush over GB for the same things you brought up earlier d1 have to do with you disappearing after your wagon died down? You were suspicious because you decided to do nothing after being pretty active at the start.
(I guess I'm a bit of a hypocrite because I've pretty much done jack shit d2 but I really don't have anything to add about the GB/sl/hf situation, that should be solved by the flip.

You're misrepresenting my opinion about people not doing shit. Simply lurking the whole game puts you into the lynch pool but really doesn't tell much about the alignment. What did put GB over vivax/stutters d1? Maybe he tried to skate by a bit more but not much really.
Kush did play a bit, made this rng lynch maths thing and then didn't do much. I'm not saying he was the perfect lynch, he wasn't my first choice but I thought he was a better lynch than GB who played for like 1 hour d1.

Fiddlesticks. I misrepresent nothing. I dispute this charge most defiantly! Your play so far has been as follows:
Suspicion on Grack.
Some suspicion on Lunatic.
Talked out of suspicion on Grack by Shapelog.
Make no contribution at the end of the day but agree with Kush lynch for not doing much and posts Grack dislikes while saying GB seems like an easy way out when their contributions were about equal.

Lynch Kush.

Come back later and accuse Grack again for disappearing.

But, on the contrary, I made no such disappeary! No, no, no! I would never do such a vile thing as that.

On August 09 2016 05:27 Grackaroni wrote:
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On August 09 2016 00:52 Lunaticman wrote:
I think Kush is actually telling the truth on the matter of not wanting to die. But it feels like a lame excuse. Any VT would fight way more against a lynch like that when they have time to post.

I don't think Kush is the way to go based on his filter. I have a better hunch about Damdred or GlowingBear. Both of their filters are enough content to avoid a day 1 lynch and missdirection, typical mafia behaviour.


This Lunatic post is a post that I think would draw a lot of unwarranted suspicion just from disagreeing with the current lynch targets and proposing people not currently being suspected while also avoiding the most useless people. I think it's more likely to be his actual way of reading the game than mafia play.

Also Glowingbear's continued push on Disinfo reads a bit red to me just because he didn't comment on anything at all that's happened since he was last here and Disinfo has been posting quite a bit since he was gone.

Kush is definitely my favorite lynch of the bunch right now.



I came back to share my wisdom on the lynch targets, and saw to it that Kush took the noose. Holyflare wailed, but his screams were overwhelmed. The Kush lynch had Damdred, DAMDRED.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 11 2016 14:16 GMT
#1035
Also I have a theory:

HF's phase two will be Holyflare changing his red check at the last minute to somebody else.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 11 2016 14:19 GMT
#1036
On August 11 2016 23:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Also I have a theory:

HF's phase two will be Holyflare changing his red check at the last minute to somebody else.

This one would be a lot less stupid than lying about having a check altogether.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 11 2016 14:28 GMT
#1039
Also Lunatic, are not you afraid of the SILENT mafia? The most deadly mafia of them all, you know.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 11 2016 22:29 GMT
#1130
Why did you ever think this was an acceptable play? This is definitely plynch worthy.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 11 2016 22:38 GMT
#1133
On August 12 2016 07:37 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 07:12 Damdred wrote:
13
10 v 3
9 v 3
7 v 3
6 v 3
5V. 3
Game over

Well it sucks but if we lose oh well

Supposedly Shoots a Person,
Doesn't realizes that via shooting a VT it would lose us a ML.
#Logic

Vivax was probably the best shot though.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 11 2016 22:39 GMT
#1134
I guess not the best shot since he wasn't mafia, but probably the shot I would have made.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 11 2016 23:06 GMT
#1140
On August 10 2016 21:56 Holyflare wrote:
Because of phase 2 sicklucker.

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Mafia knows I'm 100% the cop after this cycle regardless.

VayneAuthority was just temp banned for 90 days by Falling.

That account was created on 2012-10-18 05:37:07 and had 6861 posts.

Reason: [image loading]

You just came off a ban and you show no serious attempt at reasonable discussion, but instead intentionally try troll the thread. See you a week before the election. Maybe you can contain your bad posting habits by then.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 00:03 GMT
#1174
Methinks it's Shapelog for reasons unknown.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 00:15 GMT
#1180
On August 12 2016 09:13 Shapelog wrote:
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On August 12 2016 09:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Methinks it's Shapelog for reasons unknown.

Somehow forgets the reason why he thinks I was scum earlier.

Is this supposed to be a scum trait?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 00:25 GMT
#1187
On August 12 2016 09:22 Holyflare wrote:
Grack/shape do you mind doing a quick thing about why you think the other one is mafia? Like bullet points brief.

Yes. It's just my instinct. Tomorrow I shall bury/re-evaluate accordingly.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 00:37 GMT
#1195
lol wait no HF connections. I was on his team like 3 times.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 00:57 GMT
#1199
Yeah It's a bit surprising that he didn't wade into the miller/cop stuff. He usually talks about everything lol. I still think he's town right now. Go to sleep HF.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 15:21 GMT
#1235
lol you guys all keep promising to look into HF's filter for connections and never do it.

Push on Luna at start.

He said he liked me after I wrote a post saying not to lynch me/disfo

Last second push on GB.

What appears to be the "lynch SL if GB flips town" equivalent of day 1:

On August 09 2016 06:36 Holyflare wrote:
I haven't read a single one of Shapelog's posts but he's mega dropping that GB is town.

Anyone read him?

Forgets that scum read on Shapelog is supposed to happen after GB flips town.
On August 09 2016 07:04 Holyflare wrote:
sicklucker mafia, shape mafia, damdy you disappointed me entirely but i don't know about mafia

gb mafia

now you can sheep me forever


On August 10 2016 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
By the way if you're vigi clean up the trash please.

On August 10 2016 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
For instance, I didn't even know Stutters was in this game.

Maybe puts Stutters at a little bit extra risk of being vigged. I don't think very much.

On August 10 2016 07:18 Holyflare wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 1


nnn_thekushmountains (9): Grackaroni, Stutters695, Shapelog, Grackaroni, Damdred, disformation, mderg, Tumblewood, Vivax, Holyflare
disformation (3): GlowingBear, nnn_thekushmountains, Grackaroni, Lunaticman
Grackaroni (1): Tumblewood, disformation, sicklucker, mderg, disformation
GlowingBear (0): Holyflare, disformation, Tumblewood
Lunaticman (0): Holyflare, disformation, disformation, mderg


Stutters/damd/dis/mderg/sl/gb

two out of stutters/damd/dis/mderg/sl are mafia, out of all of these dis probably removed the first

also i still haven't really read anyone but will try this cycle probably


team is probably stutters/gb/X

Shapelog moves back in greenville without explanation. Perhaps less likely if teammates.

On August 10 2016 11:29 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 09 2016 06:35 Stutters695 wrote:
Forgot about GB. I don't know his meta really, but if someone else will vouch for him being better as town I'd give it a shot. Only game I can think of was assassin where he pardoned scum and executed town BH iirc.

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On August 09 2016 06:22 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:10 Damdred wrote:
Idk why me holding my vote is scummy, if I didn't vote probably is but,I'll make sure a lynch is done.

Kush is a possible but so is lunatic meh.



Yeah, I'm warning up quite a bit on lunatic. I still like kush a bit more though.

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On August 09 2016 05:22 Stutters695 wrote:
Not sure I agree with you about luna yet(certainly not enough to want to lynch him d1), but the rest of your post is pretty solid.

Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 03:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 09 2016 03:49 disformation wrote:
Yeah, I think I like the luna lynch a bit more now.
Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter.


What makes you like the Luna lynch? It actually feels like he doesn't have the time to me.


This guy is definitely next.

On August 10 2016 11:30 Holyflare wrote:
Above is not in order though but still outlines his null yet defendy attitude of people for no reasons.

If this had been posted during the night the shot probably would have been on Stutters instead of Vivax.

On August 10 2016 16:42 Holyflare wrote:
You're just saying that gb is going to flip miller meaning you know I'm actually the cop and you're setting up my mislynch for the day after. No way you're getting away with this leap in logic.

2nd accusation of somebody for already knowing that GB is town. Continues to reaffirm his claim and forces mislynch.

Conclusion: I like Shapelog more now. Also Lunatic. Perhaps Stutters even less than before.
Warning: Reads will likely be volatile.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 15:22 GMT
#1236
Except for HF read. He's on ignore mode.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 16:14 GMT
#1239
On August 13 2016 00:47 Holyflare wrote:
Welk you could just ask me about the Shapelog thing? I seem to remember him doing some analysis about me with disformation that seemed good so I dropped it. I think he clarified something about GB at that point to.

Also that miller quote is to sl I'm pretty positive.

As for Shapelog now he's also one of the only ones here willing to talk to me about stuff still so that's a + and he did some diving into things, also +

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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 17:38 GMT
#1246
On August 13 2016 02:36 disformation wrote:
So. scrolling through hf's filter:
unlikely to be with luna.
unlikely to be with sl.


@hf you mention really early that grack is very town to you. I think you never explained why.
Actually you did town him kinda hard two times, but didn't explain why.

Are you scum reading HF?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 17:49 GMT
#1248
On August 13 2016 02:46 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 02:38 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 13 2016 02:36 disformation wrote:
So. scrolling through hf's filter:
unlikely to be with luna.
unlikely to be with sl.


@hf you mention really early that grack is very town to you. I think you never explained why.
Actually you did town him kinda hard two times, but didn't explain why.

Are you scum reading HF?

Kinda weird question.
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On August 12 2016 07:21 Damdred wrote:
No I'm lynching you tomorrow if I'm alive hf. You have every reason as mafia to fake claim and try to get out of it, if your town you made a mistake and we will lose either tomorrow or if you talk your way out of it the next day.

Its just how it is.

I'd say it is more probably for HF to be scum here. Like 70-80% scum or something. Don't nail me on the % thing, pulled these out of my ass.
Especially in a 5-3 situation in a majority game, you kinda cannot not vote him.

In a situation where he is scum (likely as I just said), he just needs two towns to vote e.g. sicklucker to be able to do like a last second switch with his whole team or something to win.

How so? For what purpose do you ask most CursedFlare an explanation of his read on me?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 17:56 GMT
#1251
On August 13 2016 02:52 disformation wrote:
I kinda have a hard time placing together a team with HF, so I am hoping to get some information.
Yes, HF will prolly try to WIFOM me, but there is nothing else going on is it?
Well, I could filter every player alive to see the other side of a possible collection, but after looking at sickluckers filter, I am not sure if I want to do that atm. xD

And you would listen to the traitors spiel? Have you gone mad? Your senses leave you! I smell a trap of sinister design, for you are on my list of most suspected people, indeed!

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 18:02 GMT
#1254
On August 13 2016 02:36 disformation wrote:
So. scrolling through hf's filter:
unlikely to be with luna.
unlikely to be with sl.


@hf you mention really early that grack is very town to you. I think you never explained why.
Actually you did town him kinda hard two times, but didn't explain why.

Now out, yes out! Or back off now. A veiled accusation this be!

To Cursedflare thou dost proclaim,

A corollary Grack shall be.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 18:16 GMT
#1256
On August 13 2016 03:05 disformation wrote:
Was looking through your filter, cause I think you never had a scum read on me before.
I understand now. Your OMGUSing me, cause I ask HF stuff to maybe get more information on HF + you.

This thread is getting depressing.

The jester jests but now no longer.
The threat is nigh.
We must grow stronger.
I do not like your inclinations.
A subtle drop that leaves no traces!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 18:40 GMT
#1257
Do not be discouraged. No, no, no!
Through every filter I shall go.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 18:48 GMT
#1259
On August 13 2016 03:46 disformation wrote:
well. guess who doesn't mention hf even once in his entire filter.
spoiler: it is very easy to guess

Stutters?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 18:59 GMT
#1263
We're 5v3 right now after Damdred gets night killed. That means we have to lynch correctly 3 times in a row to avoid losing.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 19:10 GMT
#1266
On August 13 2016 04:05 Damdred wrote:
It's not correct to rule Luna or sl out as town due to hf probably flipping scum.

Hf loves to bus especially his partners lightly. The Luna push I think is excellent example, it has substance and then just drops it in favor of,going at Gb with everything.

Sl I think might be town anyway but Luna I am not convinced of.

I'm actually a bit more paranoid of SL than Luna. Luna actually made posts at the end of day 1 that were deterring people from voting him causing HF to switch.

SL didn't do anything at the end of day 1 and Hf had already given prior reasoning for SL being scum and he chose a new push on Glowingbear instead.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 19:14 GMT
#1267
But you must hurry almighty Damdred. Monsters await.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 19:45 GMT
#1275
Lunatic why did you vote dis during the start of day 1?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 19:52 GMT
#1277
On August 13 2016 04:49 Holyflare wrote:
Sometimes I hard bus weaker team mates if they're struggling.

lol. Do you consult them before doing this or just go for the jugular?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 21:13 GMT
#1302
On August 13 2016 06:04 Holyflare wrote:
No, that's just not true in the slightest.

[image loading]
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 21:16 GMT
#1304
The problem with addressing anything you write is that it creates more wiggle room for you tomorrow.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 22:04 GMT
#1315
waaat
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 22:04 GMT
#1316
who is vigi lol
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 22:05 GMT
#1321
yeah don't claim today.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 22:16 GMT
#1328
Ok we're still lynching HF. Here are the relevant facts explained by Glowingbear:

On August 11 2016 22:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, again, I've never questioned your night actions, I have no idea why you're coming up with that.

I also don't understand how you can say that SL has too much insight on me when he calls me Miller (I didn't see that post?) and you jump on him calling him Mafia and never dropping that read when, well, he couldn't have too much insight because you think I'm Mafia and you said that two millers is impossible.

What I'm trying to say is: you either believe I'm Mafia and SL is stupid town considering I'm Miller, or you believe SL had TMI, then I'm town and he is Mafia. You can't call us both Mafia, and that's what you're doing.


If HF was town he would have unclaimed and moved the lynch on to SL on day 2 since he never had a check on GB in the first place. He didn't do that. He pushed through the mislynch on GB and is now trying to close out the game with this final SL push.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 22:23 GMT
#1333
On August 13 2016 07:11 Holyflare wrote:
Mafia could have a vig/role cop and used the vivax town kill to gain later cred if needed, vig claim is pretty wifom but obviously we'd be deciding on the player rather than the claim if it happened.

There are no mafia vigs in 13 player games. That definitely destroys the balance.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 22:25 GMT
#1336
On August 13 2016 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 07:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok we're still lynching HF. Here are the relevant facts explained by Glowingbear:

On August 11 2016 22:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, again, I've never questioned your night actions, I have no idea why you're coming up with that.

I also don't understand how you can say that SL has too much insight on me when he calls me Miller (I didn't see that post?) and you jump on him calling him Mafia and never dropping that read when, well, he couldn't have too much insight because you think I'm Mafia and you said that two millers is impossible.

What I'm trying to say is: you either believe I'm Mafia and SL is stupid town considering I'm Miller, or you believe SL had TMI, then I'm town and he is Mafia. You can't call us both Mafia, and that's what you're doing.


If HF was town he would have unclaimed and moved the lynch on to SL on day 2 since he never had a check on GB in the first place. He didn't do that. He pushed through the mislynch on GB and is now trying to close out the game with this final SL push.


No, I didn't believe GB could be that shit as town, it's as simple as that.

But they aren't mutually exclusive. If you are convinced that SL has slipped on day 2 then you have to assume that GB is that shit as town by definition.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 22:32 GMT
#1340
On August 13 2016 07:26 Holyflare wrote:
Unless you're seriously saying 1 shot vig + jk is a balanced setup on its own then you're crazy.

I believe that is a balanced setup. If I put some time into digging I'm sure I could find a setup like that. I'll tell you what. I'll find the JK/Vig game. You find the m13 mafia vig game.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 22:40 GMT
#1345
The struggle was real. It wasn't a possibility in the last game, but it was the 2nd to last game.

On July 18 2016 11:03 Damdred wrote:
This will be a semi-closed setup, the scum team will more than likely know the setup based on the roles that have been distributed for them.

I have done my best to balance the game this does not account for modkills or a few other circumstances that suck.

Setup

Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker

cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker

Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm


All roles can be 1 shot 2 shot or will just say the rolename which means no limitations. This goes for mafia as well.

Your move HF. I should have never believed that cop would fit in the balance to begin with but I didn't think you would do something so silly as mafia.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 22:42 GMT
#1346
On August 13 2016 07:38 Holyflare wrote:
There's three mafia, try not to look for connections to me because they don't exist, find the other two mafia.

lol I'm putting my effort into making sure this doesn't end like that time Marv ignored me.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 22:58 GMT
#1351
On August 13 2016 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
And then you're implying that I claimed cop into a full setup of vig/jk as mafia

Yep. I don't doubt that you were afraid that there might be a cop and were trying to find him.

On August 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
For real I am actually without a doubt claiming cop. GlowingBear is mafia.

I'm salty as fuck I didn't get jk'd btw.

I'm claiming because vivax has flipped miller so the likelihood of a framer is 0% and 2 millers would be pretty bull shit. I'm thinking it's prob gf/rb/mafia

I get counter claimed and you lynch me for 2 free mafia. Townies do not even thin abouy fake claiming to defend me.

The post itself even reeks of you trying to look good after you back out of the claim, why else would you put this in here if not to say, "I was just pulling a stunt! I warned you not to counterclaim!"
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 23:01 GMT
#1353
Grackaroni to Shapelog. Grackaroni to Shapelog. The scum is squirming. I repeat, the scum is squirming. I need backup. Over.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 23:10 GMT
#1356
On August 13 2016 08:08 Shapelog wrote:
Do you want it with Mayo or Ketchup?

I've never actually had a burger with mayonnaise.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 23:23 GMT
#1359
Let's examine HF's mindset.

herp dee derp. It is me, Holyflare. I am the greatest town player of all times. Everyone has their pants on their head but me. la deee da.

Gasp! I'm the cop and I've been JK'd. Damdred has claimed vig? Oh my! I'm in a great position to get a check tomorrow after they kill Damdred! I think I'll just claim a red check on Glowingbear now ruining any discussion for the day. If GB is mafia I will surely be roleblocked, and I could probably just lynch him anyway and get a lot more information out of it. This way is totally superior, somehow. Oh my god! SL knows too much! what a ruse this was! I'm going to carry on with my GB lynch which can't possibly hit scum if my theory is correct, putting town in LYLO for the rest of the game, and get SL tomorrow. That will show those mafias.

OR

herp dee derp. It is me, Holyflare. I am the greatest mafia player of all times. Everyone has their pants on their head but me. la deee da.

Oh my Vivax was a miller! That must mean there is a cop! I know! I'll claim cop warning town not to counterclaim to protect me and then I'll be able to find the real cop through people's reactions throughout the day. Hue hue hue. What a clever plan this is!

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 23:28 GMT
#1361
Glowingbear's point is valid. SL's first reaction was to believe the claim and try to distance himself from being GB's partner. This indicates that he actually believes that GB is mafia.

His later reaction was the double miller tin foil.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 23:32 GMT
#1363
On August 13 2016 08:31 Holyflare wrote:
Or mafia can just say whatever the fuck they want?

They can. But if you're arguing that he slipped I think the first reaction is more telling than the later one that you're trying to push as a slam dunk case.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 23:33 GMT
#1364
You also didn't answer why you thought it was a good idea to claim when Damdred set himself up as the night kill at the start of the day. In all likelihood the roleblock came from Tumblewood.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 23:41 GMT
#1367
Ok. I have a red check on HF.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 23:42 GMT
#1368
Darn. We lynched another bored townie!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 23:45 GMT
#1369
For the <1% chance that HF actually is this bad as town he's completely deserving of the policy lynch.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 23:57 GMT
#1371
On August 13 2016 08:53 Holyflare wrote:
I don't really care but I'm still gonna try and post a lot of read posts regardless. I get that it was bad play and I never said it was good.

You can either accept that or just find the other mafia Grack, no idea why you keep trying to repeat the same point over and over again like you're trying to convince me I'm mafia.

I'm not trying to convince you. I'm already convinced you're mafia. I just need to make sure that town consolidates before you seed doubt into players that don't realize you're capable of strong mafia play.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 23:58 GMT
#1372
It also doesn't help that SL is completely useless.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 00:00 GMT
#1374
I didn't mean you. Sicklucker.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 00:06 GMT
#1375
What I meant was that I don't think SL's filter is going to help much in making people decide who to vote in this duel.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 00:24 GMT
#1380
On August 13 2016 09:22 Holyflare wrote:
Is it too much to ask for a no lynch today? That way I get a check off again or they kill me for you )

lol I like you Holyflare.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 00:25 GMT
#1381
I still need to kill you though.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 00:26 GMT
#1384
On August 13 2016 09:25 Holyflare wrote:
Only if you're mafia do you need to do that Grack, are you claiming mafia?

You're just going to kill me and then people are going to be like "his filter is 20 pages long, he can't be mafia."
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 00:32 GMT
#1386
There's really no need for me to kill you as mafia by the way. Town needs 3 correct lynches in a row. I'm pretty sure I could get one mislynch from here as mafia without committing entirely to killing you.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 00:47 GMT
#1389
On August 13 2016 09:45 Holyflare wrote:
Yeah but I'm an easy lynch and vocal as fuck so why not?

Easy lynch? This is going to be a huge pain in the ass. I know you're going to squirm for the next 48 hours. Stutters is an easy lynch.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 00:48 GMT
#1390
I'm not stopping you from making reads. Go right ahead.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 00:51 GMT
#1391
I am prepared! I know just how hard this will be Holyflare. I am undeterred. I probably am going to lose this game but I just want to lynch one mafia.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 01:00 GMT
#1394
On August 13 2016 09:54 Holyflare wrote:
I dunno, but can you please just focus on other people for a bit so I can post reads tomorrow? Don't wanna have to defend myself at every turn because it does detract from my mood quite a bit.

Well I'm sorry about your mood, but I'm quite convinced. My goal is to rally town around a lynch on you. I know just how slippery you can be. Any read you want to put forth I will comment on and argue with you.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 01:01 GMT
#1395
If you find a more convincing mafia read than yourself then of course I will go with that.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 01:07 GMT
#1396
Also you should go to sleep, silly. You didn't sleep last night.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 18:11 GMT
#1438
I might actually be open to no lynching today and waiting for the night kill.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 18:12 GMT
#1439
Nah it's not worth it.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 18:19 GMT
#1440
If we no lynch today it gives us less people to be suspicious of (3v2) and (2v1) lynches as opposed to (4v2) and (3v1) but it requires every single person agreeing to consolidate.

In this case a single townie missing a vote allows mafia to force a no lynch and win with the night kill.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 18:20 GMT
#1441
We would all have to agree beforehand to plug our Holyflare ears.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 18:23 GMT
#1444
On August 14 2016 03:22 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 03:19 Grackaroni wrote:
If we no lynch today it gives us less people to be suspicious of (3v2) and (2v1) lynches as opposed to (4v2) and (3v1) but it requires every single person agreeing to consolidate.

In this case a single townie missing a vote allows mafia to force a no lynch and win with the night kill.


Or, if you're so sure HF is scum, lynch him so he doesn't shit up the thread then no lynch?

I don't like this post.

That would be a wise course of action. Let's do that.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 19:27 GMT
#1455
On August 14 2016 04:15 Stutters695 wrote:
I just don't see it. Claiming there doesn't make sense as scum. There were so many easy mislynches

On August 10 2016 12:23 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 12:01 Holyflare wrote:
How the fuck can i possibly justify being alive


When I flip town your claim will be revealed as a lie, so you can just say that you were so certain I was mafia that you fake claimed a red check to have me lynched. And people will buy that, people like Grackaroni, because that's "pretty suicidal and mafia wouldn't do it"


Aha! Now you're the Grackaroni. I don't envy you Stutters.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 19:55 GMT
#1458
Lol wbg plays scum so weirdly. he's actually assigning people who they should suspect. What am i supposed to be getting out of this?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 20:32 GMT
#1460
On August 14 2016 05:07 Holyflare wrote:
Just how I play mafia, that I don't make plans, that I don't want to fake claim ever in favour of talking etc etc.

Can post more mafia qts if you want.

HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted
06-22-2015
06:10 PM ET (US)
I'm tempted to fake claim cop today :p

Mig
06-22-2015
06:12 PM ET (US)
Right now it is 9-4 need 2 mislynches to win.

HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted
06-22-2015
06:34 PM ET (US)
I'll probably say i checked va or something yeh

I realized I could just control f "fake claim." This is like the exact same scenario as this game. Thanks for the QT link.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 13 2016 21:02 GMT
#1465
lol thanks for visualizing it Lunatic.

One question:
Would it throw a wrench into your read if I said that Disfo could be a vigi?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 18:34 GMT
#1496
3 1/2 hours to ruin HFs mafia lynched percentage. The cases will be enticing. Beware the siren's call.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 18:45 GMT
#1501
So what. On average you care a lot as mafia as demonstrated by your discussion of your stats.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 18:46 GMT
#1502
I've played mafia with you. I know you aren't robotic and you post a lot regardless.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 18:51 GMT
#1505
Are you trying to suggest that you would lurk as mafia due to some mysterious meta change based off one game where you didn't have time to play?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 18:55 GMT
#1506
By the way, Stutters you still have to vote regardless of who you vote.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 19:21 GMT
#1509
On August 15 2016 04:15 Holyflare wrote:
Look, I get you don't trust me but a no lynch is the only way to claw this game back.

A lynch on me loses the game.

You'll be too scared to follow me, I get that.

A no lynch gives me time to play the game. Please help.

Lol that's exactly what I'm afraid of. You're too dangerous as mafia. If we no lynch today I may not even get the chance to push you tomorrow.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 19:24 GMT
#1510
Also if Stutters is town and he votes wrong tomorrow we lose. Not the case today.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 19:42 GMT
#1513
What evidence? First you argued that you would never fake claim cop because you're too good as mafia. Now you're linking your last mafia game to argue that you can't be mafia here because you're too bad at mafia. I've addressed both of those arguments.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 19:46 GMT
#1517
On August 15 2016 04:39 Holyflare wrote:
oh ok, grack is scum with sl then nvm

SL says grack is playing like his mafia meta to a T, repeats it about three times, read drops off the face of the earth for eternity to never be mentioned again

GG guys

They drop around the same time that you and tumblewood call me town. I wonder if there could be anything that I may have posted in between your analysis that may have caused him to change that read?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 19:49 GMT
#1519
On August 15 2016 04:44 Holyflare wrote:
No, the argument was that I'm too proud as mafia to fake claim over having an easy game and arguing over people because I CARE too much about my stats.

And I can't be mafia here because I care too much about my stats AND I have little to no effort if I rolled mafia.

None of those arguments have been addressed properly.

But you did suggest fake claiming on a whim in the mafia qt. that doesn't suggest you ate too proud to consider doing something like this.

Plus I think your plan was to look for a cop after you saw a miller.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 20:29 GMT
#1525
On August 15 2016 05:24 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 04:49 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 15 2016 04:44 Holyflare wrote:
No, the argument was that I'm too proud as mafia to fake claim over having an easy game and arguing over people because I CARE too much about my stats.

And I can't be mafia here because I care too much about my stats AND I have little to no effort if I rolled mafia.

None of those arguments have been addressed properly.

But you did suggest fake claiming on a whim in the mafia qt. that doesn't suggest you ate too proud to consider doing something like this.

Plus I think your plan was to look for a cop after you saw a miller.


ALSO HOW CAN YOU SAY THIS AFTER SAYING THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE A COP WITH A JK AND VIG??????????????????????????????

Because my thoughts on the setup have no influence on your thoughts. Me thinking jk/vig is a normal setup doesn't prevent you from believing there could be a cop.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 20:31 GMT
#1526
Lol for fucks sake. I'm going to have to get on my computer to close out this lynch.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 20:32 GMT
#1528
I'll read it in a minute.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 21:21 GMT
#1539
THE SITUATION: THE SIREN SINGS
[image loading]

I've warned you guys since the beginning this would be a difficult lynch!

Sl looks bad because he hasn't put any effort into the game. I know that him not pushing me on day 1 isn't scummy because I'm not mafia but others may not. All I can say is that by the end of the day my lynch really didn't look probable and SL would not have been able to change that by shouting his bad meta read.

On day 2 two HF claims a cop check on GB while role blocked. This completely undermines his idea of wanting to stay low and avoid a role block. If he truly believes that GB is mafia then by claiming and pushing the lynch on to GB he increases his chance of being role blocked dramatically.

HF claims that SL slipped and knew that GB was town. SL's first reaction was to distance himself from GB after the check is announced. He later comes up with the possibility that maybe HF could be a rolecop and GB miller. This isn't mafia indicative of SL. It does not imply that SL knows GB is town. HF said various things throughout the day about needing to lynch GB to confirm himself as cop. It's perfectly reasonable for SL to wonder whether HF is role cop trying to use this claim to confirm himself as mafia.

What's truly scummy is that HF didn't have a check on GB and then still pushed through the lynch on GB even after arguing SL has slipped. The only reason he was suspecting GB was because GB wasn't playing the game. HF isn't an idiot. He knows that the right play would be to unclaim the red check and let town choose the lynch. Instead he pushes through the lynch on GB while lining up a lynch on SL the next day. This is a must lynch.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 21:25 GMT
#1541
On August 15 2016 06:23 Holyflare wrote:
ok gg then grack, you failed at even looking at my past games/are mafia so w/e

Yeah right.

You've still got 35 minutes.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 21:29 GMT
#1543
I shall await THE SITUATION: A HOLYFLARE PERSPECTIVE STORY - Part 3
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 21:37 GMT
#1545
Want to give your guess for the mafia team?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 21:37 GMT
#1546
Mine is HF/Luna/Shapelog right now.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 21:43 GMT
#1551
Meh. If it actually turns out to be SL and not you then perhaps it's on me.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 21:46 GMT
#1552
Dunno how you could go to bed instead of waiting 15 minutes for the end game though.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 21:54 GMT
#1557
On August 15 2016 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 06:46 Grackaroni wrote:
Dunno how you could go to bed instead of waiting 15 minutes for the end game though.


nice slip btw

The implication is that you wouldn't go to sleep 15 before the game was about to end and that you're going to flip mafia.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 21:58 GMT
#1566
He had half as his mafia coach last game.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 21:58 GMT
#1568
He does seem to be scumming though lol.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 21:59 GMT
#1573
My principles don't allow it!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 22:03 GMT
#1578
lol they did get a mafia vig. That's super weird!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 22:06 GMT
#1583
This was totally worth it. No hard feelings HF.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 22:10 GMT
#1588
See this is why we should have stuck with the random lynch! Now I am reconverted. I will never betray it again.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 23:27 GMT
#1616
On August 15 2016 08:23 sicklucker wrote:
weakest mafia team to ever win a game probably =[ literally had to do nothing

I still don't know what this meta read is about. Did you think I would only push Kushm4sta as mafia?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 14 2016 23:38 GMT
#1625
(3) Shapelog mixed his "quality" posts with just enough spam that enough people didn't want to read his posts or at least not critically. I was thinking enough people would catch on to him but this was not the case.

Is this not standard Shapelog though? I didn't look at any games so I don't know.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-14 23:42:33
August 14 2016 23:39 GMT
#1626
On August 15 2016 08:38 disformation wrote:
dude I spend like 2h yesterday writing up a 2500+ word case on Luna and you didnt even read it?

You played well. We're all just sore losers over here. I'm going to get my mafia lynch one of these days.
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