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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 22 2016 18:29 GMT
#1261
Basically you asked for a list excluding people and I eliminated the people I felt least likely to be scum.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 18:30 GMT
#1262
I feel like rels tumble is a pretty unlikely pairing, so it's a bit odd that you put them together that's all.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 22 2016 18:32 GMT
#1263
Meh. Lets focus on pairings once we have a flipped scum to go off of.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 18:35 GMT
#1264
I look forward to your thoughts from the re-read!
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 22 2016 18:36 GMT
#1265
Heh I'm slow. I'm still making my way through the start of the current day. And I'm refreshing this page all the time too.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 22 2016 18:39 GMT
#1266
Take your time, I'm gonna be out for a bit
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 22 2016 18:44 GMT
#1267
On July 23 2016 03:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Heh I'm slow. I'm still making my way through the start of the current day. And I'm refreshing this page all the time too.


I want the lynch today to be someone of these three:

10) Tumblewood
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi

I am positive there is at least one scum among them.

It feels like Skynx and Koshie are town. I had Tumble down as town too. Kruppe is an enigma too me.

I don't have time to do any deep analysis for until tomorrow though.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 22 2016 18:44 GMT
#1268
On July 22 2016 20:33 Skynx wrote:
None of Krupp's actions made sense. He scumread Lunatic after I dropped my case. He scumread me for agreeing to vote for him. He claimed out of panic. He didn't post 1 thing that relatively made sense.
He did everything to be not townread, only comparably ok lynch was DCW.

This is nonsense. You dropping your scum read on Lunatic does not make Kruppe scum. He was suspicious of you pushing him as a meta lynch when you had played with him earlier. The only weird thing is that he is not suspicious of Koshi who did exactly the same.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 22 2016 18:47 GMT
#1269
And also claiming out of panic? How is that strange he was going to be the lynch.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 22 2016 18:49 GMT
#1270
On July 23 2016 03:44 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 20:33 Skynx wrote:
None of Krupp's actions made sense. He scumread Lunatic after I dropped my case. He scumread me for agreeing to vote for him. He claimed out of panic. He didn't post 1 thing that relatively made sense.
He did everything to be not townread, only comparably ok lynch was DCW.

This is nonsense. You dropping your scum read on Lunatic does not make Kruppe scum. He was suspicious of you pushing him as a meta lynch when you had played with him earlier. The only weird thing is that he is not suspicious of Koshi who did exactly the same.

This is not nonesense. It came to a point of pointless arguing and the towniness of Lunatic was universally agreed and i dropped my case. Then Kruppe came in and gave a red enveloppe. Don't try to twist words.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 22 2016 18:50 GMT
#1271
On July 22 2016 20:56 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 20:50 prplhz wrote:
On July 22 2016 20:49 Lunaticman wrote:
So why kill palmar?

I know I said I would kill him maybe it was to set me up?


why would you kill him? didn't you scum read him all game?


Yes that was my point, it is a clever way to set me up, I even claimed I would kill him if I had the vigilante role. Now it is easy for someone to put suspicion on me for it.

Also tbh in the end it felt like the entire palmar EC lunaticman was TvT.

Can we put together a scumlist for day 2 and work from that?

First lets go through Kush and Palmars feed for information.

I honestly believe that their scumlists are probably all town, it is a good strategy to misdirect the town but thé question is who that leaves us.

The CHUPAZI is strong in this one.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 22 2016 18:50 GMT
#1272
We should also try to do a most likely town list: because I feel there are too many chefs in to pot right now.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 22 2016 18:51 GMT
#1273
On July 23 2016 03:47 Grackaroni wrote:
And also claiming out of panic? How is that strange he was going to be the lynch.

Nice contribution bud

I would read your every post and find 10 things to trashtalk in every single one of them aswell if i gave two fucks. Anything you wanna add to the conversation?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 22 2016 18:53 GMT
#1274
On July 23 2016 03:49 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 03:44 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 22 2016 20:33 Skynx wrote:
None of Krupp's actions made sense. He scumread Lunatic after I dropped my case. He scumread me for agreeing to vote for him. He claimed out of panic. He didn't post 1 thing that relatively made sense.
He did everything to be not townread, only comparably ok lynch was DCW.

This is nonsense. You dropping your scum read on Lunatic does not make Kruppe scum. He was suspicious of you pushing him as a meta lynch when you had played with him earlier. The only weird thing is that he is not suspicious of Koshi who did exactly the same.

This is not nonesense. It came to a point of pointless arguing and the towniness of Lunatic was universally agreed and i dropped my case. Then Kruppe came in and gave a red enveloppe. Don't try to twist words.

I'll let him make his case for his read, but scum will more likely want to blend in with other people than scumread somebody who is universally town read. It makes them stick out and they have to come up with original reasoning to defend their suspicion.(To be fair, Kruppe would probably not do any of that.)
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 22 2016 18:55 GMT
#1275
On July 23 2016 03:51 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 03:47 Grackaroni wrote:
And also claiming out of panic? How is that strange he was going to be the lynch.

Nice contribution bud

I would read your every post and find 10 things to trashtalk in every single one of them aswell if i gave two fucks. Anything you wanna add to the conversation?

I don't intend it as trash talk. You're throwing suspicion on somebody for bad reasons. That's important to me and should be important to others as well.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 22 2016 18:57 GMT
#1276
On July 23 2016 03:14 emperorchampion wrote:
@hosts: can strongarm "break out of prison" or only get past protection to someone in prison?


please use green text for questions. As for the question the strong can shoot through the jail but if he is rb by the jk he loses that ability for the night and shots aren't refunded
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 22 2016 19:04 GMT
#1277
It seems like the thread is in agreement that one of SL/Rels/Koshi made the Palmar kill?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 22 2016 19:07 GMT
#1278
On July 22 2016 22:43 Koshi wrote:
##Vote Rels

Kush/Palmar and a lot of people found/find him suspicious.
Reading his filter nothing stands out. Didn't really care his preferred lynch target was lynched. When I asked him about DCW close to the lynch he didn't try to convince me the guy was mafia at all. Instead he deflected my invitation to join him with "I don't know DCW is 100% mafia". Which is maybe weird.

Anyway. My vote is there.

I don't like this vote. Kush and Palmar both suspected Rels from his start of day play when he was inactive. If we're going to throw down a vote, I want to see a bit more reasoning than that. No hiding behind the deceased.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
July 22 2016 19:09 GMT
#1279
guys I found rels's partner
this guy
On July 21 2016 23:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 23:01 prplhz wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:59 Koshi wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:57 prplhz wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:53 Koshi wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:43 prplhz wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp?


It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add.

how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read

you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum.

???


No.

Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read.

I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it.

He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL.

Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes.

I vote for Palmer.

Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role.


but Skynx is saying you are scumreading Palmar because he tries to attract attention on himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion

you agree with this

so you think Palmar is scum because he tries to attract attention to himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion

but you are not scumreading emperorchampion

it's literally what the post said???

ALSO

why would whatever get someone lynched irl, but not here? why is it scummy irl but not here?

prplhz,

Better not stare blindly in what lunatic says why Palmar is mafia and discard the idea because you disagree.
Please read Palmar his filter and tell me why Palmar is town? You probably can't. Please do not defend Palmar solely because you disagree with Lunatic. It doesn't help town.

Palmar might very well be mafia.

that's not my problem, yes Palmar could be mafia

Skynx is asking Lunaticman is he is scumreading Palmar because Palmar is defending his scumbuddy emperorchampion. Lunaticman says that that is exactly what is happening.

This associative business is shady in itself, but Lunaticman isn't even scumreading emperorchampion.

Explain this to me like I'm stupid. He is saying "Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum" but he doesn't think emperorchampion is scum???

I was the first to say that was bullshit. In the thread. Posts started with:
...

Really

...


But LET IT GO... Do not stare blindly on 1 thing this lunatic guy says. He has a 7 (maybe 8 now) filter and he is not backing down. You can tell him another 1000 times that he doesn't make sense and he will tell you 1001 times he does...

If you think it makes him mafia. Fine. But I don't think it does.

He really believes Palmar is mafia for this reason. While we think that reason is bad. He still believes it.


It's townie.

HMM OKAY

i know i should ignore Lunaticman for now but it's just so hard!!!

Anyway, Palmar could be mafia. But we're not lynching him today. And if you're town, could be dead tomorrow. It's fine that you're pushing the idea that Palmar could be mafia but please don't push the idea that we should lynch him today.

Fine. I can kill the eel as well. Or Rels.


On July 22 2016 05:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 05:19 Rels wrote:
On July 22 2016 05:15 Koshi wrote:
page 8 townread:

On July 12 2016 15:36 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe welcomes EmperorChampion, a true friend of Kruppe, to Kruppe's table. Sit, friend, and marvel in the sweetness, and sweet it is indeed, of Kruppe's friendship.


next post. page 9 townread:
On July 12 2016 23:04 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
On July 12 2016 22:57 Vivax wrote:
On July 12 2016 19:08 KelsierSC wrote:
Good Morning Everyone,

I've read through the game and have a few town reads to share.

Damdred - I liked his entry and the points he raised about emperor/conversation with DCwasabi seemed excellent. He Seems engaged in the game aswell so he is my top town.

DCWasabi - I've never played with this guy before but his initial problem with emperor's post was quite well though out and I also liked his conversation with damdred so i'd have him as town at the moment.

[green]prplhz So this was strange at first I didn't like his posts about not wanting to lead the town and being happy to sheep anyone. But on further reflection I don't think it is likely that , as a mafia opening, you would come out and say stuff like that. Maybe he said something like it before or does it as either alignment but I don't remember it. I also liked the tone of his responses, sort of unapologetic for what he was saying.

For everyone else I have slight leans either way but I don't have anything that would be a helpful contribution


Why do you have such a strong opinion on Damdy based on what he wrote on emc, but no opinion on emc at all? Doesn't seem logical to me. If his points are excellent you should share his views?


Applause! Applause!

Friend Vivax, you have earned a —certainly one of kruppe's favorites!— chair at Kruppe's table. Such wisdom is unparalleled by anyone other than Kruppe himself.


next post. page 13 update on read:
On July 13 2016 01:40 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe ponders; what happened to the infinite wisdom displayed by true friend Vivax, who is currently —most comfortably— seated at the largest and most illuminated table in the tavern?

Ah, but mayhaps Kruppe already knows. Bard Vivax's song is sonorous and devout, but a song is a poem is a tale. This is merely the beginning of the tale sung by friend Vivax; twists and turns, friends and jubilations, chairs and pastries! What wonders await us, dear friends of Kruppe? Kruppe admits to utter ignorance, solemnly sworn!


next post. page 22 scumread:

On July 13 2016 22:21 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Alas, wisdom is obscured to those with (mayhaps feigned?) ignorant eyes.

Words are spoken of the traitor Snickers. One of many words yet now shrouded in silence. Kruppe admits to the peculiarity of such a phenomenon, a personality switched, a mouth stitched. Kruppe begs of thee, Snickers —if you are a true friend of Kruppe's—, sing loud and true!

Yet in the shadows sits KelsierSC, once prodded by friend Vivax's insight, still a convenient bystander. Kruppe asks of you —reader—, who may just be a true friend of Kruppe, do you consider Kelsier to be a friend? Kruppe raises his eyebrow with much vehemency!


next post, page 23, scumread:
On July 14 2016 05:59 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe is somewhat conflicted, dear friends. It seems that Snickers simply stormed off in a fit of anger! How very uncharacteristic, indeed. When faced with peril, should we not show our true colors and shine bright? Mayhaps Snickers is a traitor in truth after all.

Yet, Kruppe's infinite wisdom prevails! Kelsier is not a true friend, but a traitor among us! It has been seen by bard Vivax before, but Kelsier has slipped through the myriad of conversations. Kelsier's display of opinion was the first impression —the most important of impression's, Kruppe would argue— given to us by undear Kelsier, and it has stayed that way. Our beloved bard had even spoken true of Kelsier's most interesting view; it was characterized by inconsistency! Alas, it is true that Kelsier could still be a friend after all. But, with finger both brazenly raised and wagging, Kruppe would argue that Kelsier has since not contributed his opinion at all! Most interesting, as this seemed to be an utmost priority at the very start!

Kruppe —with heavy heart, as your truest friend Kruppe is not one to resort to violence— will temporarily put down his left pastry (though the right pastry is still firmly grasped) to point a finger at Kelsier.


next post page 23, scumread:
On July 14 2016 06:08 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Though if Snickers does not show up for a most rousing of conversation, then Kruppe will not oppose the ousting of Snickers.

Alas, at is stands your dearest friend Kruppe has some important business to attend to. Your most interesting conversations will certainly be missed! Though Kruppe is sure he will hear of them.




Those are all consecutive posts. Well constructed and easy to read. This game he is doing nothing of that. The only read post he gave was the last one. Which he made to get people of his back.


The envelope post was terrible vague. It even appears the red envelopes were his townreads and the blue ones were scumreads. How the fuck? That is the opposite as his previous game because there even though he roleplayed his reads were clear. This game he is hiding behind the roleplaying to minimize giving out reads.


He isn't a lock mafia. But if we want to lynch a guy who has given town nothing, plays under his capabilities and plays meta different than his last town game. Kruppe is always the lynch.

OK. I see your point.
DC is still a better lynch

No he isn't at all.

Ok. You decided to be completely useless this game. Ignored for the rest of the game. Will push your lynch when possible.

Insane how you haven't said anything remotely decent this game. Something I can actually use to read somebody.
[/b]
all d1 Koshi was yelling at rels for being bad and keeping him as his second scumread. when rels was the lynch, Koshi was sitting on kruppe and crying out "a trollplayer isn't being helpful! lynch!"
the association is so obvious... Koshi is "fine with lynching rels" but instead chooses to save him.
scumteam is for sure rels/koshi/an inactive (sl? maybe)
I would be totally fine with afk-voting the next two days and coming back when there are real decisions to make
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
July 22 2016 19:15 GMT
#1280
partner is within grack/sl/sknyx(?)/ec(?)/really long shot prplhz
everyone else is more or less confirmed town in my mind
good times for all
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