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On July 21 2016 11:30 sicklucker wrote:
how long till deadline? time to spam the thread to get my 10 posts
I was wondering when you'd show up.
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And that's basically it. Few pointers in that case
Town lean: emperor, haze, DCW
Not entirely town yet but not lynching today lol: Palmar, Koshi, kush, Tumble
Total Null/Inactive/Needs to step up: Rels, Kruppe, sicklucker
Slight scumlean: Lunatic
Bit more scumlean: Grack Fields
Town leans are mainly feels due to general posting style/tone. Only emperor is not scum that he was in previous games for few reasons that will remain hidden cuz that might change.
Palmar is Palmar, he can lynch his godfather teammate for towncred or contribute very low but precise to lynch scum 1 by 1, needs more time but I like him tone based so far.
Koshi is slightly odd and different to how I know him but that might be because he's a changed man now.
kush is kush, similar to palmar.
Tumble's push I don't find necessarily well constructed but he did progress the game from that miserable spam dump we turned it into so props for that. Needs more time to read.
Rels came in, made some few remarks about game/roles and left, nothing to note really.
Kruppe is on another dimension but Palmar is sure he's mafia hmmmm
sl is sl
Points on Lunatic explained eariler
Grack I have a scumlean on for few reasons. First he admitted to lurk but did not declare it to thread in a towny way like haze. He than townread Tumble for interacting with Lunatic in quick succession which is weak at best. Mafia doesn't have to coordinate small stuff like that, people should be capable of engaging in conversation without giving away too much as mafia. On top of all it could be svs.
Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:36 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. So I went from highest town (iirc) to your scum vote? :o No I still think you are town, but I think they made good arguments based on your previous games. Why are you doing this? It doesn't really make sense from a town or a scum perspective
Now he realises something is fishy about Lunatic but that is such a weak push considering Lunatic's plays/reads/vote so far made no sense. He's right about that but kinda needs to build up on it.
Then turns to kush, which he gives mixed impressions on why he scumreads him:
Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 02:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On July 21 2016 01:18 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 00:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
do i really have to read all this or is it all about coffee and tea and stuff? Read skynx his filter. I think EC made a townie point about how skynx kept bringing up the pregame qt link. So townread on EC. I do not think that point was valid, because skynx only brought it up once, and the rest of the time was in response to other people talking about it. Skynx actually gets a tone-based townread for his chilled out, comfortable swagger. Can you explain what was townie about this qt link discussion? So far Kush has contributed little, but he actually seems like he wants people to think that he's putting an effort this game. I think this is scummy for Kush since he usually has a loud, distinct no-shits given attitude as town. Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
8) Gracaroni
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar
A list of 8 people? I expect more. I think Kush is the best lynch for today. ##Vote: Kushm4sta
This contribution for sake of contribution argument is getting a trend. Kush has been pretty similar to how he plays normally. On top of that there were so many other players like how you described kush such as Palmar and haze, why they are not scum?
Then you turn to tone based read.
Then you turn to wow 8 people scumread wtf.
I just don't see what in there makes kush a perfect lynch today.
AlsoOn July 21 2016 12:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I haven't played mafia at all for about a year.
how you so sure about kush meta and tone then?
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On July 21 2016 20:41 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 02:07 DCWasabi wrote:On July 20 2016 23:34 Tumblewood wrote:On July 20 2016 23:28 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote:
actually no
luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec)
also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move. Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of? when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game. OK, but if there is one thing that I learned from my first 2 games, it is that it is pretty nontrivial to "work towards solving the game" on Day 1. I think the first thing that is useful that one can do is get some activity out there day 1, and get your tone established so that you can be more easily read as town by the town moving forwards. I think this is one of the things that I actually did properly as town in the Onegu Best Host Game. Town should be trying to solve the game, but some of the players haven't even posted yet, for example it is 10am local time for me and I just woke-up 30 mins ago and am trying to get caught up. I don't scumlean either of those guys yet, tbh. At the same time, I kind of like this post by Tumble because it is the kind of thing that can help to start more meaningful discussion going and discourage people from posting random banter, otherwise they might get scum-read by this reasoning. I am going to slightly town-lean Tumble because his post leads to a slightly more favorable environment for town. I don't like this post. DC I need you to explain yourself on two things. 1- You say "Town should be trying to solve the game". Now you say it's hard to solve the game at the time of this post because "some of the players haven't even posted yet". BUT the players Tumble are talking about have posted quite a lot already. So this doesn't apply ? What is the motivation that pushed you making this post ? Why do you disagree with Tumble here ? 2 - Why do you don't scumlean either of those guys " yet" ? Cause it seems like yuo plan on scumleaning them later, which doesn't make sense, if they are scummy you should scumlean them now ?
You know what nice find but not for reasons you stated.
So what is the actual point of this post? Tumble and emp were engaging on the subject of "post to solve the game". The way I'd post about this if I felt like it is I'd either analyse Tumble/emperor's posts in that pow and comment on scum/town lean of those posts or question Tumble what specific stuff made him prompt that read.
No one needs a lecture on how to play D1. The 1st and 2nd paragraph doesn't serve any purpose in this game if you don't link it to eventualities happening right then in the game. Like you try to sound like you're saying something interesting and aim at people quoting it "i like this post" and stuff on purpose. What does that entire post achieve?
Good find Rels, I must have passed by it. You lose couple of points there DCW.
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On July 21 2016 21:03 Lunaticman wrote:
Another one of my current lists:
100% Green Town
4) Lunaticman
Town read so far:
3) Skynx
5) emperorchampion
2) DCWasabi
10) Tumblewood
6) Rels
8) Gracaroni
Nullread:
11) Kruppe the eel
9) nnn_thekushmountains
1) Prplhz
Scummy:
13) Palmar
7) sicklucker
12) Koshi
I am extremly happy with the way the game has progressed, there is a lot of content to use for day 2.
What's the difference between Palmar and kush? They played almost exactly the same so far and you questioned both of their reads being vague/trolly/lazy. They should have been same category for you.
Also why is Grack town?
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On July 21 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:32 Palmar wrote:On July 21 2016 04:31 Lunaticman wrote:
To be perfectly honest I think Palmer is acting super scummy, it feels like a desperate attempt to save EC. But I have a town read on EC which is kinda wierd.
Could it be possible both of them are scum?
It feels like such a rookie misstake to make. I admit, am rookie. I didnt know this, it might change my opinion in your actions so far.
Well for instance, Palmar has most games (some 90-ish?) under his belt here. Does that change your opinions?
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So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp?
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On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp? It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add.
Well, you are way too tunneled on one idea then. emperor was engaging nicely at the time, under some pressure but he has certainly seen worse. He knows how to act in high pressure situations.
If palmar is his teammate, he's under no pressure to defend him either.
If palmar is town, he's just scumreading you for whatever reason cuz he's trolling.
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Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family?
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On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family? No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is?
There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now 
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On July 21 2016 22:06 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:01 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp? It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add. Well, you are way too tunneled on one idea then. emperor was engaging nicely at the time, under some pressure but he has certainly seen worse. He knows how to act in high pressure situations. If palmar is his teammate, he's under no pressure to defend him either. If palmar is town, he's just scumreading you for whatever reason cuz he's trolling. I'm sorry if I don't take your word for it. Palmer still made some crucial mistakes and nothing you just said has convinced me otherwise. I
Well, good luck on your Palmar lynch.
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Lunatic is crossing meh towny new guy border to scum for me. Anyone else feels this way?
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On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family? No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is? There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing. It also an effective way to trap people. Example: I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways. What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on? HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking. etc. Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons.
Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow.
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On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family? No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is? There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing. It also an effective way to trap people. Example: I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways. What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on? HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking. etc. Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons. Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow. 7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do? If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off.
His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point.
My only concern is he's prolly town.
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On July 21 2016 22:37 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family? No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is? There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing. It also an effective way to trap people. Example: I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways. What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on? HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking. etc. Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons. Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow. 7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do? If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off. His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point. My only concern is he's prolly town. I don't see how any of his actions make him mafia. Not understanding a post and just reply to it is most of the time townie. Mafia tends to make sure they wont look bad. This guy doesn't care about that. He plays free and posts w.e he likes.
On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over.
On July 21 2016 04:13 Lunaticman wrote:
I see Palmer voted for me without even giving a reason, that is super scummy.
These two specifically imo makes him scummy.
1st one he doesn't have his own reasoning for his vote, makes it a safe play. Do you see the " oh I vote emp cuz of your point but if he's green than you are scum" ? That's like super bad, I also questioned someone who said something similar last game. I think it was emperor.
2nd one not exactly this quote but the overall phonomenon of reacting to Palmar vote. Ok I see how he scumreads him cuz of no reasoning but thats exactly what he did with vote on emperor?
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On July 21 2016 22:45 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family? No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is? There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing. It also an effective way to trap people. Example: I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways. What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on? HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking. etc. Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons. Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow. 7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do? If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off. His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point. My only concern is he's prolly town. I actually demand to know what you are referencing "his style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts" why don't you enlighten me? And I think I have a pretty good handle on the game atm, I'll follow my instinct until I am proven wrong. I am actually quite easy to convince if you bring out good arguments. I have not done a single action without justifying it, compared to many of the other players. And also, everyone gets lynched at some point. It is only a matter on how you go out that you can choose.
There you go:
On July 20 2016 23:05 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:54 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:52 Palmar wrote:On July 20 2016 22:31 Grackaroni wrote:On July 20 2016 22:10 Palmar wrote:On July 20 2016 22:03 Koshi wrote:I think Lunaticman has done everything a mafia does early game. Ask a simple question about the setup: + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:29 Lunaticman wrote:
Rels since no one else seems to be active right now maybe you could help me explain a bit about the roles.
"Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker
cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker
Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm"
I do not recognize the jailkeeper, strong arm and godfather.
Call somebody blue / bluehunted + is self-aware + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 21:41 Lunaticman wrote:
Well I think rels is blue based on his posts so far. One mafia usually goes active in the beginning but I dont really have any scum vibes yet.
There is probably a 50/50 red or green on both of you so far.
And what do you think about me so far? Do "serious" scumhunting on a matter that was put forward as a joke. Bit too hard-try + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:17 Lunaticman wrote:
I was expecting emperorchampion to be very active in the beginning since I spectated the last game played (the one with hilary and trump). Maybe he changed his playstyle or maybe he simply asleep.
What do you think Rels? And lastly it maybe seems like he is trusting people too much and tries to buddy them.
That all said I don't scumread you. It's just something I saw  . Game is young. Is this the game koshi finally rolls mafia? A wild Palmar appears. I'm in the game, right? is this a famous palmar mafia game?? Yes, how can you not know if you are in the game?
On July 20 2016 23:08 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:52 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 22:45 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:42 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know. Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol). Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads. pls remember because I will forget it. I'll forget also, so paging skynx: please remember! Also you're in big trouble if we're both mafai. Or are you trying to get me to tell you if you should bus your teammate?  sekret taktiks I have one tactic: bus emperor or die trying. This is quite a serious undertaking, what are you basing this on?
On July 20 2016 23:38 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:32 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 23:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 23:23 Skynx wrote:Man Koshi might use his new behaviour to his advantage if he's scum If he's not calling anyone bad how we gona know he's town? A change in behaviour when you have an established meta which has been called is only advantagous to change when you have a new role. This should mean he is either blue or green? (since he was red last game?) No. It should mean he can be happy with bad townies making stupid lynches but we can't instantly scumread him for that cuz he said he's gona be calm. I still think the change in behaviour indicates he is a townie for now.
On July 21 2016 03:52 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:48 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. I didn't even have an argument there. That was an opinion on how and why his scum behavior has been generic thats it, nothingn else. Now what made you think he's scum? Because you specified he has polarised his playstyle which indicitated he is trying "to hard" from his previous playstyles... This is purely a meta read which I agree with if it is true.
Especially the last one. You are ready to blindly follow my meta statement on emperor to conclude he is scum and if that is wrong I must be mafia?
Furthermore, why are you so ready on reading Palmar as mafia when you are so ready to jump on any meta statemet?
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On July 21 2016 22:54 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:48 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family? No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is? There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing. It also an effective way to trap people. Example: I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways. What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on? HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking. etc. Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons. Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow. 7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do? If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off. His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point. My only concern is he's prolly town. I don't see how any of his actions make him mafia. Not understanding a post and just reply to it is most of the time townie. Mafia tends to make sure they wont look bad. This guy doesn't care about that. He plays free and posts w.e he likes. On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. On July 21 2016 04:13 Lunaticman wrote:
I see Palmer voted for me without even giving a reason, that is super scummy. These two specifically imo makes him scummy. 1st one he doesn't have his own reasoning for his vote, makes it a safe play. Do you see the " oh I vote emp cuz of your point but if he's green than you are scum" ? That's like super bad, I also questioned someone who said something similar last game. I think it was emperor. 2nd one not exactly this quote but the overall phonomenon of reacting to Palmar vote. Ok I see how he scumreads him cuz of no reasoning but thats exactly what he did with vote on emperor? The difference is I did the first vote in the game, and I said it was to generate content. I just don't see why it is beyond you. Someone has to put down the first vote and start finding a lynch target. I really had no intention to lynch EC, I just wanted to see where that got us. The response however by Palmer in my mind is to scummy to let go. But by all means if you find someone better to lynch please persuade me.
It didn't generate any content. emperor felt no pressure from your vote.
The fact that YOU try to reason your vote with "to generate content" is so scummy on its own.
Kruppe, sicklucker and you are better lynches.
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Man finally someone gets what I'm saying ty haze
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On July 21 2016 23:03 Kruppe the Eel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:01 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:54 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:48 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:[quote] There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing. It also an effective way to trap people. Example: I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways. What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on? HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking. etc. Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons. Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow. 7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do? If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off. His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point. My only concern is he's prolly town. I don't see how any of his actions make him mafia. Not understanding a post and just reply to it is most of the time townie. Mafia tends to make sure they wont look bad. This guy doesn't care about that. He plays free and posts w.e he likes. On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. On July 21 2016 04:13 Lunaticman wrote:
I see Palmer voted for me without even giving a reason, that is super scummy. These two specifically imo makes him scummy. 1st one he doesn't have his own reasoning for his vote, makes it a safe play. Do you see the " oh I vote emp cuz of your point but if he's green than you are scum" ? That's like super bad, I also questioned someone who said something similar last game. I think it was emperor. 2nd one not exactly this quote but the overall phonomenon of reacting to Palmar vote. Ok I see how he scumreads him cuz of no reasoning but thats exactly what he did with vote on emperor? The difference is I did the first vote in the game, and I said it was to generate content. I just don't see why it is beyond you. Someone has to put down the first vote and start finding a lynch target. I really had no intention to lynch EC, I just wanted to see where that got us. The response however by Palmer in my mind is to scummy to let go. But by all means if you find someone better to lynch please persuade me. It didn't generate any content. emperor felt no pressure from your vote. The fact that YOU try to reason your vote with "to generate content" is so scummy on its own. Kruppe, sicklucker and you are better lynches. Kruppe does wonder, dear Skynx, what has changed from poor Kruppe's play compared to last time we met that you would point a (hopefully blunt) finger at Kruppe?
Nothing my dear. You do nothing towny or scummy. You are intentionally being unreadible, an asset that does not benefit town in any way.
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Too many at once.
To answer most at once; Lunatic is probably town and his lynch will get us nowhere if flipped green. I find that fair but he did some scummy things from almost any perspective which I've explained over course of last 5 or so pages.
Koshi: 7 pages of filter doesn't make anyone town necessarily. rayn prolly had a 15 page filter in a 7 player game on D2, he was gf.
However all that being said I'm letting Lunatic case sit for a while until others state their opinions. I'm also beyond lost.
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On July 21 2016 23:07 Kruppe the Eel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:05 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 23:03 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 21 2016 23:01 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:54 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:48 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:
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Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow. 7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do? If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off. His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point. My only concern is he's prolly town. I don't see how any of his actions make him mafia. Not understanding a post and just reply to it is most of the time townie. Mafia tends to make sure they wont look bad. This guy doesn't care about that. He plays free and posts w.e he likes. On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:
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Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. On July 21 2016 04:13 Lunaticman wrote:
I see Palmer voted for me without even giving a reason, that is super scummy. These two specifically imo makes him scummy. 1st one he doesn't have his own reasoning for his vote, makes it a safe play. Do you see the " oh I vote emp cuz of your point but if he's green than you are scum" ? That's like super bad, I also questioned someone who said something similar last game. I think it was emperor. 2nd one not exactly this quote but the overall phonomenon of reacting to Palmar vote. Ok I see how he scumreads him cuz of no reasoning but thats exactly what he did with vote on emperor? The difference is I did the first vote in the game, and I said it was to generate content. I just don't see why it is beyond you. Someone has to put down the first vote and start finding a lynch target. I really had no intention to lynch EC, I just wanted to see where that got us. The response however by Palmer in my mind is to scummy to let go. But by all means if you find someone better to lynch please persuade me. It didn't generate any content. emperor felt no pressure from your vote. The fact that YOU try to reason your vote with "to generate content" is so scummy on its own. Kruppe, sicklucker and you are better lynches. Kruppe does wonder, dear Skynx, what has changed from poor Kruppe's play compared to last time we met that you would point a (hopefully blunt) finger at Kruppe? Nothing my dear. You do nothing towny or scummy. You are intentionally being unreadible, an asset that does not benefit town in any way. Kruppe does wonder, possible friend; are you discontent with the color of your envelope? Is Skynx not curious as to its meaning? Is the mystery not riveting!?
Mystery is absolutely thrilling. You're good town cuz you correctly identified me town. However I'd be thrilled if you explain us why some people got no enveloppes and why red enveloppes went to those targets 
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