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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 25 2016 09:22 GMT
#2241
And I am sure lunatic is mafia as well.

And I am 100% sure DCWasabi is town.
I had a good night of sleep.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
July 25 2016 09:28 GMT
#2242
meh dc is not really town tho...

dc/haze maybe
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 25 2016 09:38 GMT
#2243
I wont participate more in the discussion since nobody has any good responses to what I'm saying just throwing shade and ignoring.

I'm just waiting for a blue claim. I'll be back before the vote.




Failure is not an option
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 25 2016 09:46 GMT
#2244
On July 25 2016 18:38 Lunaticman wrote:
I wont participate more in the discussion since nobody has any good responses to what I'm saying just throwing shade and ignoring.

I'm just waiting for a blue claim. I'll be back before the vote.

Coming from he guy who kept repeating Kruppe was mafia and his latest idea of scumhunting was posting 3 teams of 2 people who were mafia together.
I had a good night of sleep.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 25 2016 09:50 GMT
#2245
On July 25 2016 18:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 18:38 Lunaticman wrote:
I wont participate more in the discussion since nobody has any good responses to what I'm saying just throwing shade and ignoring.

I'm just waiting for a blue claim. I'll be back before the vote.

Coming from he guy who kept repeating Kruppe was mafia and his latest idea of scumhunting was posting 3 teams of 2 people who were mafia together.


I think I posted 10 times in response to this to this, koshi EVERYTIME I post you do this.

Its like you work in big media, tell a lie 100 times and people will start to believe it.
Failure is not an option
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
July 25 2016 09:51 GMT
#2246
wanting the cop to claim is not a very smart tactic... he will claim if its right or if hes about to get lynched =]
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 25 2016 09:53 GMT
#2247
On July 25 2016 18:22 Koshi wrote:
And I am sure lunatic is mafia as well.

And I am 100% sure DCWasabi is town.

Can we go Lunatic today then? I have DC maf yiu have haze, we can sort that out later.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 25 2016 09:56 GMT
#2248
On July 25 2016 18:53 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 18:22 Koshi wrote:
And I am sure lunatic is mafia as well.

And I am 100% sure DCWasabi is town.

Can we go Lunatic today then? I have DC maf yiu have haze, we can sort that out later.


Why do you keep forcing me to post:

DC and haze are way better lynches than me, I'm suprised you can't see it.

Koshi and Skynx you are too try hard for your own good.
Failure is not an option
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 25 2016 09:56 GMT
#2249
Besides, if we do have a cop I'm certain he already checked me.
Failure is not an option
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 25 2016 09:57 GMT
#2250
On July 25 2016 18:51 sicklucker wrote:
wanting the cop to claim is not a very smart tactic... he will claim if its right or if hes about to get lynched =]


I respectfully disagree. If he has 2 alive reads with himself included it is EASY victory for town.

The only reason I would not claim as cop would be if they both died.
Failure is not an option
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
July 25 2016 10:03 GMT
#2251
what if said cop does not think mafia would ever nk him and the lynch is on someone he does not have a check on or better yet a red check
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 25 2016 10:17 GMT
#2252
On July 25 2016 18:53 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 18:22 Koshi wrote:
And I am sure lunatic is mafia as well.

And I am 100% sure DCWasabi is town.

Can we go Lunatic today then? I have DC maf yiu have haze, we can sort that out later.

No. Prplhz is the way to go today.
I had a good night of sleep.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 10:27 GMT
#2253
yo. I have one hour then I've got to go back to work. Starting to read what happens after I've left, any summary of the current cases would be great
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 10:36 GMT
#2254
On July 23 2016 13:03 DCWasabi wrote:
OK, well turns out "solving the game" was a bit too ambitious, but I can give my thoughts...

Rels: #1 Mafia
He tunneled me 4ever, confirmed town (to myself).
He is also throwing shade at tumble, who I believe is town and Prp who is my #1 town read.

Grackaroni: Mafia
Rels #1 bestest teamate, if Rels flips town then disregard this read

prplhz: #1 town
consistant tone, changes his mind when presented with evidence, hard to fake passion, hesitant to lynch Kush, good thoughts about Kruppe

Skynx:
I think she is town or a skilled mafia, more likely town.
Filter is fucking long.
Good logic and reading things, moving thread forward.
I like her case on Koshi and defence of Kush.

note:
I don't read prplhz or Skynx as Mafia for scumreading me necessairly, because I admit that parts of my play have looked a bit scummy.
They aren't tunelling me like Rels was.

Kruppe: town for now because nobody cced

Tumble: Town
He is either town, or I think he is a really good at mafia.

Lunaticman:
Another fking long filter.
I think he is town, but if he ever confirmed town... do this: Go back and look at posts where he suspected somebody and then see who questioned his credibility right afterwards or called him crazy (they may be mafia).

Empc:
Town, as I explained earlier, I don't think his play this game is the exact same as his last scum games. For me it is noticeably different, even if he is not driving thread forward with logic, I feel like his posts are more heartfelt and not forced. Either he is town this game or he got better at playing mafia. i hope I'm not wrong.

There is also some Wifom about his "random vote" that yielded Palmar. I think it leans town as it would be too obvious to then NK palmer, but Wifom will be Wifom. It is a bit weird though that he then didn't comment on the idea that maybe mafia were setting him up... but it is not like he was really pushing for a Palmar kill, so it is probably nothing...

1 more thing, he is defending me at a points where I think it would have be stupid to do so if he was mafia. I mean, if there are several town on me right now, then I think Mafia could have a good shot at lynching me with a push form just 1-2 Mafia (please don't do that).

He says I need to step up and I think that is fair.

Sicklucker:
Towny because his reads make sense to me

Koshi: Town
if he is not town then we will worry about that later, he can actually push thread forward if he is town.


WELL FK, one of my TR has to be Mafia because it doesn't add up

This list, that happens a few pages after I've left, is fucking terrible. All the reasonning is terrible. Except the part of EC which is OK. But the rest is super terrible.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 25 2016 10:39 GMT
#2255
On July 25 2016 19:03 sicklucker wrote:
what if said cop does not think mafia would ever nk him and the lynch is on someone he does not have a check on or better yet a red check


ok, it is a gamble which I would never take but I can see the reasoning. I have no idea which lynch target that is though.
Failure is not an option
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 10:45 GMT
#2256
On July 24 2016 00:58 prplhz wrote:
It's more reasonable to lynch Tumblewood. But this lynch does feel a little easy. Compared to how he keeps saying that Kruppe the Eel should be lynched, this is fairly reasonable.

Is it me or does this post smell like a bus ? I'll keep a close eye on prp's posts when I read EOD2.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 10:49 GMT
#2257
On July 24 2016 04:39 prplhz wrote:
I'd much rather just MURDER DCWasabi. He seems to be putting noticably less deliberation into the game than he did last game. You could say that carefree reads would ostensibly point to town but it just seems like he doesn't care as much about pushing his ideas as he did the last two games I played with him.

Like just now, just 5 minutes of going through Tumblewood's filter and posting a couple of posts with a one liner smacked on them. Just doesn't seem like how he posted in the other games, he would be more inquisitive and then when he had an idea he would push it. This just seems like "you guys do whatever as long as I have some deniability for whatever's happeneing".

On July 24 2016 04:45 prplhz wrote:
DCWasabi voting in this game

DCWasabi voting in Bavarian Night kills

DCWasabi voting in Onegu is best host

On July 24 2016 04:46 prplhz wrote:
Also Palmar's last words was that DCWasabi was going way under the radar.

There is no way prp and DC are both scum. Here prp is trying to change the lynch from Tumble to DC. It makes no sense if all three of them are scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 11:17 GMT
#2258
I really don't like SL's posts near EOD2. Not at all.
First, I gotta reread it, but the only things I remember from him D2 before I left was "Palmar NK proves that there is one scum between Grac and Rels. Let's kill Grab pretty please." I remember a lot of posts about it, with no reasonning other than a NK, that is useful when solving the game, but by definition WIFOM. A case that only rest on NK analysis is a bad case.

Now when I'm at atm (p. 80), around 2 hours before deadline, Tumble is looking to be the lynch. SL has a series of posts that only contains words, with no apparent thought process:
On July 24 2016 05:01 sicklucker wrote:
Theres no way tumbleweed is mafia. two confirmed towns from my pov are not even voting him. and my most likely mafia suspects are. this wont end well

On July 24 2016 05:02 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 05:02 Koshi wrote:
On July 24 2016 05:01 sicklucker wrote:
Theres no way tumbleweed is mafia. two confirmed towns from my pov are not even voting him. and my most likely mafia suspects are. this wont end well

Who is mafia. gogo


grack his tone is red

On July 24 2016 05:03 sicklucker wrote:
Also grack and someone else wanted to lynch me. if they were town dont you think mafia might join them?

On July 24 2016 05:05 sicklucker wrote:
like koshi my top 3 towns are not voting tumbleweed. Two are confirmed to me (myself and the chez wannabe) This is a mislynch...

Here SL is talking about Lunatic and Kruppe. The only reason he has for townreading TUmble is "Lunatic, Kruppe and I are not voting him". No offense to Lunatic and Kruppe, but their read suck, town or not town. Lunatic spent a lot of time trying to lynch an un cc blue. Kruppe spent a lot of time roleplaying instead of playing. It is not a good argument as to why Tumble is town.
On July 24 2016 05:12 sicklucker wrote:
also if i was mafia i would hammer tumbler here 100%. even if I was with him I would probably hammer because you idiots want to lynch me next

Then, this post. First, it is so defensive, like if he knew he would be looking bad if Tumble flipped scum. Which is what happens. Second, more importantly, it is a lie. SL has proclaimed multiple times and multiple threads that he does not bus. He actualyl used his argument repeatedly in several games we played together to try to prove his townieness; from the top of my memory, I remember the JAT game, but I've seen it in more threads.. Now he's using the inverse argument of "if I was mafia I would bus". This is in complete contradiction with his usual mindset. He's lying, likely because he's scum.
Damnit. I shouldn't take the time to find the posts but whatever that should be quick. Here is what I'm talking about, these posts comes from the JAT game where sicklucker was town:
On April 28 2016 01:14 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2016 01:12 Rels wrote:
On April 28 2016 01:08 sicklucker wrote:
like even when super was with me in my last scum game. I could tell he was going to paly like shit after carrying that pyp game.

Hes like really weird he will play a perfect scum game (hes beat me twice in final 3) then he will tottaly shit the bed next game. in some huge game imperial I think I busted him day one and he was so bad that i fake claimed cop or something trying to get him lynched.

And this was his third scum roll inarow... Ya its expected he was going to suck really. im sure super knew it and maybe would have mentioned it

If this is true, this points at you being his partner and voting him early TBH. If he was feeling terrible, he would have known he needed to fakeclaim and Tumble or I would have bused him way harder, protected by the fact that he was going to fakeclaim.


well I didnt bus super the game before... and he asked me to I cant make this shit up.

Super wanted me to bus him all game but I went out of my way to keep him alive.

Like this is something that acualy happened. I killed rstoulin for the specific reason that if she flipped scum super would look alot more townie and not get lynched.

I said the logic in the third party qt if you think im making this up for any reason

On April 28 2016 01:16 sicklucker wrote:
so we have acual evidence in a very very recent game where super LITERRALY ASKED ME TO BUS HIM. but I refused.

Yet for me to be scum here I would have had to run such a crazy epic bus on super AND ONEGU.

like its acualy so improbable and you can not denie my logic here

On April 28 2016 03:33 sicklucker wrote:
why cant I? I provided evidence where super asked me to bus him and I refused

On April 28 2016 03:36 sicklucker wrote:
Like I bus way less then the average person dispite what jat says. He was my scum partner the only time i ever really bussed. I cant actually think of a clean bus I ever did since then. and I really only bussed in that spot because I was the second wagon and there was no reason not too

Like, here is SL's usual thought process about busing: "I despice busing, I only did it once because I was the second wagon, I was asked once by my partner to be bused but I went out of my way to try and save him".
AND here is SL's thought process about busing this game: "I would have bused Tumble if I was scum with him".
Lie lie lie. This + his reads being based on shaky stuff, it's super likely he's scum. Let me finish catching up to see what else happened though.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 25 2016 11:31 GMT
#2259
Bombshells have been dropped. Cya SL. I was so fucking close to nailing him too but I was lazy and never checked SL's scum meta.
On July 23 2016 15:04 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 14:48 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 23 2016 14:43 Grackaroni wrote:
We're getting way off track. It seems like nobody sees SL lurking in the shadows with the dagger hidden behind his back.

why do you want to lynch sl (oh all people) now (of all times)

Because he's full of shit. First he wanted to lynch me because I was pushing Kushm4sta. Then he jumped on the Kushm4sta wagon because he thought it was strange that Kushm4sta voted him. End of day 1.

Day 2 he says that I'm scummy for leading the Kush wagon while excusing himself from all responsibility because "he would have been lynched anyway", which is a lie since Sicklucker is not an oracle and could not have known who was getting lynched that day until the day was over.

Now day 2 comes so he's right back to pushing me because I "would have killed Palmar." Where does he even come up with that? As he has said earlier this game, I played one game with him before and I was town and got nked day 1. So why does he believe I would have killed Palmar? Where is he gleaning this information from? It's certainly not from past experience. If I was scum I wouldn't have killed Palmar because Palmar was being suspicious and wasn't even suspecting me to begin with.

And then there's the fact that this thread is filled with information, which he hasn't used at all. All of the suspicions he has posted are based entirely off this NK, which is pretty much wifom. Some people think it was Rels/Koshi/SL who killed Palmar. I think it could be you or a newbie who is giving too much respect for the power of Palmar's play.

Either way Sl has contributed nothing of use besides sheeping me and then accusing me out of thin air of wanting to kill Palmar.

On July 24 2016 05:59 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 05:57 sicklucker wrote:
On July 24 2016 05:56 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 24 2016 05:54 sicklucker wrote:
Ya im sure were hard aligning grack to get 1 mislynch. that makes so much sense on day 2 grack. you got us

It's out of desperation. You really think that you and DCW would be able to go on and win the game if Tumble gets lynched? Even if you contribute the final vote, not a chance.


if I hammered tumbleweed you bet your ass I would win

Sounds like the perfect strategy then. I'm taking this to mean that you would liberally bus people in your scum games. Someone in here should be able to confirm whether this is true.

Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 25 2016 11:39 GMT
#2260
SL did help me a lot in trying to save tumble...
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