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DCWasabi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States368 Posts
July 13 2016 00:39 GMT
#401
Need more useful activity from:
Kelsier, Kush, Kruppe, Snickers, Prplhz, Skynx
"Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana." -Groucho Marx
DCWasabi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States368 Posts
July 13 2016 00:43 GMT
#402
By the way, I mean more activity of the useful variety.

I am not calling their activity useless, lol.

#beNice
"Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana." -Groucho Marx
DCWasabi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States368 Posts
July 13 2016 00:44 GMT
#403
Except for the ones I scumread anyway.
"Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana." -Groucho Marx
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
July 13 2016 04:33 GMT
#404
Dc I trust you man. Who should I vote?

Ec, lemme see if I understand this..
Last game prpl played less neutral and people scum read him for it.
This game he is playing more neutral. And that means he is town why?
If he were scum, wouldn't he also not want to act the same way that made people scum read him?
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 13 2016 05:51 GMT
#405
I will be on tomorrow before the deadline. I haven't been able to read the thread in detail, but dc is townie as fuck. Paranoia to the max
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2016 05:55 GMT
#406
Meh, why can't we have games where people be nice to eachother?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2016 06:04 GMT
#407
On July 13 2016 08:06 Vivax wrote:
I avoided talking about other stuff than LS so I can focus on one thing at a time. I wanted but refrained to talk a bit about Skynx. He seems different to me than in his last game at first glance. Less active and the posts feel different as well. Nothing more concrete until I do another dive though. I was too tunneled to really read much besides LS Damdred, volvo and shape.

Yeah internet sucks at home for a while now, I'll be more active during midday.

On July 13 2016 09:36 DCWasabi wrote:
Town Reads: Wasabi, Damdred, Vivax

Null: Shape, Kelsier, Vorono, Kush, Kruppe, Snickers

Scummy:
Emp, Prplhz, Skynx


We could Policy Lynch Snickers for 0 activity, but I feel like there are better choices.


For EMP, I want to go back to this post of his (trying to defend his early logical leap)...

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 12 2016 22:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2016 14:39 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 12 2016 13:29 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 12 2016 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Hi again finally home with pizza in my stomach.

First thing, it seemed emperor your hype level was a bit high. What did you get out of your conversation with prp anything worthwhile?

@snickers, so we meet again. This time will we once again be at each other's throats or be cordial. As for my part I'm going to try to be cordial and work with you if I think you are town.

Ls ls idk why I make snap judgements on your alignment but I do. Do you want to take a guess at what it is?

Prp well meh, it just depends on what I feel like doing during the game whether I can push a Lynch or not. Put me in a game with Palmar Marv and a few others (people who listen) I can get it done effectively well. Put me in a gamr with someone like rayn I'll get yelled down every time.



Just happy to be playin the game also trying to get people into the thread lol

I think prp was a lot less neutral last game from what I observed in obs so I'll be interested in seeing how he play out this game. I think it makes sense in the context of him coming across really scummy in the first half of day 1 last game he wants to take a more back seat roll, so I'd be willing to give some town points for that.

Anyhow more tomorrow gotta head to bed meow


I don't agree with this reasoning.
You are saying that Prp tried to be more active last game than he usually is (and he was town), but it didn't work out well for him... so the fact that he is being passive here is an adjustment to that, indicating that he is town?
I find that to be a bit of a stretch because if he is normally passive, then that would still be the best method for him to employ in order to blend in if he is Mafia.

I don't think it points either way.


I think you misinterpreted a little bit what I said, I'm comparing last game with this game. If you're getting scum read last game as a townie for doing things, it makes sense to me not to do those things as a townie this game.



This clarification still makes no sense... As a mafia, you wouldn't do thoise things that got you scum read last game either! He would avoid those things regardless of alighment. Mafia want to avoid being scumread just as much as town!
This has no bearing on whether prp is town or mafia this game.


For Prp, mostly because he is tunneling me and I am town. Also, no useful contributions thus far.


For Skynx, need more posts, but she could be posting just enough to try and avoid suspicion without contributing anything useful.

You have like almost identical activity to me at beginning of the day. In addition to that, why is kush, kruppe and snickers all nulls when I'm scum? Again almost same activity level.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2016 06:12 GMT
#408
On July 13 2016 07:42 prplhz wrote:
i need to shower and my foot is FUCKED

just gonna vote for DCWasabi

##Vote DCWasabi

Noted as vote with absolute no basis or interaction what so ever.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2016 06:15 GMT
#409
Anyway p4-6 emp vs voro is pretty tvt to me.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2016 06:18 GMT
#410
On July 13 2016 04:05 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 00:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I think solving Voro and Emperors alignment wil be key on figuring out the scum team atm.
@Emperor what you make of Voro pushing you atm?


Nowhere is explained how their alignments would help figuring out the scum team.

Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 01:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways if I have to lynch anyone right now it would be Voro because his push is very weak but I wanted more people's opinions on him and Emperor because like I said solving both of their alignments will solve the game.


One hour later he "wanted more opinions on them". He wants to lynch him because his push is weak. And still nobody knows how their alignments would solve the game. These are all not arguments for voron being mafia. For any town person he should be at best null, on a D1.

When LS gets heat on him he intensifies the tunnel and adds another argument (bolded) that makes vorono at best more afk, not more mafia and was never part of his original arguments to begin with. To me it just looks like he's desperately trying to push attention away from himself by doing this.

Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 01:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck it I voting my scum read now rather people think I right or wrong I don't give a fuck about it. Voro I think your scum because your push is super weak on Emperor and when I told you that the quote you quoted for voting him is NAI you refused to talk to me.
##Vote: vorono


Caution meta and tone ahead
this won't be even up for debate for me cause I don't even need this argument to explain why he's mafia (if you have rebuttals then adress my other points thanks) , but if you accept meta as a reason and are acquainted with LS then it might convince you.

+ Show Spoiler +

I don't even know why a town LS would add a "fuck it" in here when he's being suspected by 1 or 2 persons. When he's town he doesn't get this aggressive (heard about some lylo madness somewhere but that's not the same context). He actually tries to find out why he's being scumread and stuff, check this page of his filter from Holyflare mafia which 1. is recent, 2. has him as mafia's D1 target and he's being suspected by townies as well.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509406-h-o-l-y-f-e-mafia?user=LightningStrike&page=3
Simply compare his reaction to Palmar, HF etc. to the reaction here.


I highly doubt I will lynch anyone else today.

Summed up pretty much all I was thinking about LS at that particular time. Good, constructive push.
Shape agreeing to this also noted.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2016 06:25 GMT
#411
Likely town: Shape, Vivax
Prolly maybe town: emp, vorono

Nulls divided into three categories:
Total afk/uselessness border: kush, kruppe, snickers
Needs very careful re-reading with context: KSC, Damdred, haze
Pure null: DCW
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
July 13 2016 07:10 GMT
#412
Wassup town skynx.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
July 13 2016 07:11 GMT
#413
Inb4 WHY??!

I don't wanna say cause it's dumb but for some reason I believe it anyway.
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nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
July 13 2016 08:06 GMT
#414
That feel when you stay up so late you pregame Excedrin for work in the morning.
DCWasabi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States368 Posts
July 13 2016 09:43 GMT
#415
Can't sleep, time to scumhunt.

On July 13 2016 15:04 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 08:06 Vivax wrote:
I avoided talking about other stuff than LS so I can focus on one thing at a time. I wanted but refrained to talk a bit about Skynx. He seems different to me than in his last game at first glance. Less active and the posts feel different as well. Nothing more concrete until I do another dive though. I was too tunneled to really read much besides LS Damdred, volvo and shape.

Yeah internet sucks at home for a while now, I'll be more active during midday.

Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 09:36 DCWasabi wrote:
Town Reads: Wasabi, Damdred, Vivax

Null: Shape, Kelsier, Vorono, Kush, Kruppe, Snickers

Scummy:
Emp, Prplhz, Skynx


We could Policy Lynch Snickers for 0 activity, but I feel like there are better choices.


For EMP, I want to go back to this post of his (trying to defend his early logical leap)...

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 12 2016 22:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2016 14:39 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 12 2016 13:29 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 12 2016 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Hi again finally home with pizza in my stomach.

First thing, it seemed emperor your hype level was a bit high. What did you get out of your conversation with prp anything worthwhile?

@snickers, so we meet again. This time will we once again be at each other's throats or be cordial. As for my part I'm going to try to be cordial and work with you if I think you are town.

Ls ls idk why I make snap judgements on your alignment but I do. Do you want to take a guess at what it is?

Prp well meh, it just depends on what I feel like doing during the game whether I can push a Lynch or not. Put me in a game with Palmar Marv and a few others (people who listen) I can get it done effectively well. Put me in a gamr with someone like rayn I'll get yelled down every time.



Just happy to be playin the game also trying to get people into the thread lol

I think prp was a lot less neutral last game from what I observed in obs so I'll be interested in seeing how he play out this game. I think it makes sense in the context of him coming across really scummy in the first half of day 1 last game he wants to take a more back seat roll, so I'd be willing to give some town points for that.

Anyhow more tomorrow gotta head to bed meow


I don't agree with this reasoning.
You are saying that Prp tried to be more active last game than he usually is (and he was town), but it didn't work out well for him... so the fact that he is being passive here is an adjustment to that, indicating that he is town?
I find that to be a bit of a stretch because if he is normally passive, then that would still be the best method for him to employ in order to blend in if he is Mafia.

I don't think it points either way.


I think you misinterpreted a little bit what I said, I'm comparing last game with this game. If you're getting scum read last game as a townie for doing things, it makes sense to me not to do those things as a townie this game.



This clarification still makes no sense... As a mafia, you wouldn't do thoise things that got you scum read last game either! He would avoid those things regardless of alighment. Mafia want to avoid being scumread just as much as town!
This has no bearing on whether prp is town or mafia this game.


For Prp, mostly because he is tunneling me and I am town. Also, no useful contributions thus far.


For Skynx, need more posts, but she could be posting just enough to try and avoid suspicion without contributing anything useful.

You have like almost identical activity to me at beginning of the day. In addition to that, why is kush, kruppe and snickers all nulls when I'm scum? Again almost same activity level.


This is flat out not true about our activity levels being about the same.
I had 14 posts between the start of the game and post 176 while you had 12.

However, you only had 2 of these posts that weren't one liners / had even a bit of substance.
One of them was about last game, lol.
The other was just clarifying / giving your interpretation of a Prplhz post, a guy who has 3 posts fingering me already this game out of like ~21 if I counted right total posts, and is on my radar.

9-10 of these posts of mine were constructive (in my mind) / about the game.
You had how many that weren't banter, like 1-2?

Then, neither of us posted until I came back at post 387 and you at post 406.
At this juncture you posted some more 1 liner / low content posts until you posted a read list finally... I guess in response to me saying you were scummy?
Meanwhile, I post things like this post.

So, don't say we had the same activity level D1. Town can pop both filters open and compare.

And, as to the others that had low activity, which I read as null... they weren't even trying to blend in, so I didn't assign a scummy slant to them... yet.

Furthermore, they have quite less activity than you, not the same lol. So this is also not true.
How can you say for acitvity that: DCWasabi ~ Skynx ~ Snickers, is that for real? So, is DCWasabi ~ Snickers???

I agree with Vivax that Skynx seems different too, anyone want to discuss this, agree / disagree with what I am saying here?

##Vote: Skynx
"Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana." -Groucho Marx
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 13 2016 09:50 GMT
#416
No time this morning

##vote Snickers

Place holder vote. see you all later
Zerg for Life
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 13 2016 10:14 GMT
#417
##Vote Snickers

Not really a placeholder.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-13 10:41:43
July 13 2016 10:28 GMT
#418
Day 1 Votecount

emperorchampion (1): vorono
vorono (1): emperorchampion
Skynx (1): DCWasabi
Snickers (1): prplhz

Not Voting (8): Damdred, nnn_thekushmountains, Skynx, Shapelog, Kruppe the Eel, Snickers, Vivax, KelsierSC

Day 1 ends in on Wednesday, Jul 13 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

Currently No one is set to be lynched with 12 alive it takes 7 votes to reach majority.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 13 2016 10:39 GMT
#419
Like Snickers isn't even participating. Just looking at his past games he's considerably more active as town than as scum. I know we're barely 1 day into the game but I think this is the best thing we've got. I'm not buying Skynx scum just yet.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2016 10:57 GMT
#420
On July 13 2016 18:43 DCWasabi wrote:
Can't sleep, time to scumhunt.

Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 15:04 Skynx wrote:
On July 13 2016 08:06 Vivax wrote:
I avoided talking about other stuff than LS so I can focus on one thing at a time. I wanted but refrained to talk a bit about Skynx. He seems different to me than in his last game at first glance. Less active and the posts feel different as well. Nothing more concrete until I do another dive though. I was too tunneled to really read much besides LS Damdred, volvo and shape.

Yeah internet sucks at home for a while now, I'll be more active during midday.

On July 13 2016 09:36 DCWasabi wrote:
Town Reads: Wasabi, Damdred, Vivax

Null: Shape, Kelsier, Vorono, Kush, Kruppe, Snickers

Scummy:
Emp, Prplhz, Skynx


We could Policy Lynch Snickers for 0 activity, but I feel like there are better choices.


For EMP, I want to go back to this post of his (trying to defend his early logical leap)...

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 12 2016 22:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2016 14:39 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 12 2016 13:29 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 12 2016 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Hi again finally home with pizza in my stomach.

First thing, it seemed emperor your hype level was a bit high. What did you get out of your conversation with prp anything worthwhile?

@snickers, so we meet again. This time will we once again be at each other's throats or be cordial. As for my part I'm going to try to be cordial and work with you if I think you are town.

Ls ls idk why I make snap judgements on your alignment but I do. Do you want to take a guess at what it is?

Prp well meh, it just depends on what I feel like doing during the game whether I can push a Lynch or not. Put me in a game with Palmar Marv and a few others (people who listen) I can get it done effectively well. Put me in a gamr with someone like rayn I'll get yelled down every time.



Just happy to be playin the game also trying to get people into the thread lol

I think prp was a lot less neutral last game from what I observed in obs so I'll be interested in seeing how he play out this game. I think it makes sense in the context of him coming across really scummy in the first half of day 1 last game he wants to take a more back seat roll, so I'd be willing to give some town points for that.

Anyhow more tomorrow gotta head to bed meow


I don't agree with this reasoning.
You are saying that Prp tried to be more active last game than he usually is (and he was town), but it didn't work out well for him... so the fact that he is being passive here is an adjustment to that, indicating that he is town?
I find that to be a bit of a stretch because if he is normally passive, then that would still be the best method for him to employ in order to blend in if he is Mafia.

I don't think it points either way.


I think you misinterpreted a little bit what I said, I'm comparing last game with this game. If you're getting scum read last game as a townie for doing things, it makes sense to me not to do those things as a townie this game.



This clarification still makes no sense... As a mafia, you wouldn't do thoise things that got you scum read last game either! He would avoid those things regardless of alighment. Mafia want to avoid being scumread just as much as town!
This has no bearing on whether prp is town or mafia this game.


For Prp, mostly because he is tunneling me and I am town. Also, no useful contributions thus far.


For Skynx, need more posts, but she could be posting just enough to try and avoid suspicion without contributing anything useful.

You have like almost identical activity to me at beginning of the day. In addition to that, why is kush, kruppe and snickers all nulls when I'm scum? Again almost same activity level.


This is flat out not true about our activity levels being about the same.
I had 14 posts between the start of the game and post 176 while you had 12.

However, you only had 2 of these posts that weren't one liners / had even a bit of substance.
One of them was about last game, lol.
The other was just clarifying / giving your interpretation of a Prplhz post, a guy who has 3 posts fingering me already this game out of like ~21 if I counted right total posts, and is on my radar.

9-10 of these posts of mine were constructive (in my mind) / about the game.
You had how many that weren't banter, like 1-2?

Then, neither of us posted until I came back at post 387 and you at post 406.
At this juncture you posted some more 1 liner / low content posts until you posted a read list finally... I guess in response to me saying you were scummy?
Meanwhile, I post things like this post.

So, don't say we had the same activity level D1. Town can pop both filters open and compare.

And, as to the others that had low activity, which I read as null... they weren't even trying to blend in, so I didn't assign a scummy slant to them... yet.

Furthermore, they have quite less activity than you, not the same lol. So this is also not true.
How can you say for acitvity that: DCWasabi ~ Skynx ~ Snickers, is that for real? So, is DCWasabi ~ Snickers???

I agree with Vivax that Skynx seems different too, anyone want to discuss this, agree / disagree with what I am saying here?

##Vote: Skynx

Meh w/e. You will get over these in time. Interesting how you left out kush/kruppe from your reasoning. I don't want to lynch kush but Kruppe posts are 100% jack shit while Snickers only posted like two things. I'm not gona argue over my activity here I think anyone can see I was trying to progress the game on most of them rather than banter. I think you can draw that line just fine as well so your intentions here are noted.
Also this part is funny:
On July 13 2016 18:43 DCWasabi wrote:
This is flat out not true about our activity levels being about the same.
I had 14 posts between the start of the game and post 176 while you had 12.
...
9-10 of these posts of mine were constructive (in my mind) / about the game.
You had how many that weren't banter, like 1-2?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
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