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Btw Kelsier I found it odd you had no read on emc but on Damdred for what he said on emc in case you missed it.
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On July 13 2016 08:11 Vivax wrote:
Btw Kelsier I found it odd you had no read on emc but on Damdred for what he said on emc in case you missed it.
No i read it. it just isn't that odd at all when you think about it .
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On July 12 2016 15:04 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 09:06 prplhz wrote:On July 12 2016 09:04 emperorchampion wrote:On July 12 2016 09:02 prplhz wrote:
Who do I talk to to get someone lynched in this town? Just gotta muster up a big enough mob to get majority Yea but my problem is that I couldn't get someone lynched to save my life, I'd much rather someone else be the whip and do the brow beating. Usually I find a townie with a name but this game doesn't seem to have that. Wait a sec here, so this time all of the townies are no-names... How do you know who is a townie in this game? Is this a slip?
This post shows he's reading and thinking between the lines so I'm willing to give DCW a D1 freepass.
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On July 13 2016 08:12 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 08:11 Vivax wrote:
Btw Kelsier I found it odd you had no read on emc but on Damdred for what he said on emc in case you missed it. No i read it. it just isn't that odd at all when you think about it .
Well I was leaning town on him initially cause he seemed so cheerful at the start. But when someone starts strong and then drops off abruply I lean scum on them.
What was your take on him back then?
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On July 13 2016 08:18 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 08:12 KelsierSC wrote:On July 13 2016 08:11 Vivax wrote:
Btw Kelsier I found it odd you had no read on emc but on Damdred for what he said on emc in case you missed it. No i read it. it just isn't that odd at all when you think about it . Well I was leaning town on him initially cause he seemed so cheerful at the start. But when someone starts strong and then drops off abruply I lean scum on them. What was your take on him back then?
some good some bad,
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On July 13 2016 08:15 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 15:04 DCWasabi wrote:On July 12 2016 09:06 prplhz wrote:On July 12 2016 09:04 emperorchampion wrote:On July 12 2016 09:02 prplhz wrote:
Who do I talk to to get someone lynched in this town? Just gotta muster up a big enough mob to get majority Yea but my problem is that I couldn't get someone lynched to save my life, I'd much rather someone else be the whip and do the brow beating. Usually I find a townie with a name but this game doesn't seem to have that. Wait a sec here, so this time all of the townies are no-names... How do you know who is a townie in this game? Is this a slip? This post shows he's reading and thinking between the lines so I'm willing to give DCW a D1 freepass.
I like that we had the same thought process on that post.
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Honies, I'm home. Time to get caught-up.
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God and right when we talk about him he Drelurks.
Just blah paranoia but
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On July 13 2016 07:42 vorono wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 23:54 Shapelog wrote:On July 12 2016 23:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya content wise I didn't have really any problems with Emperor. Can't tell if anything seems forced or not from him. But I think it mostly NAI items atm.
On Voro: Ya he really tunneled on posts that are just NAI I think dunno if it makes him scum or not but it feels like what HF tried to do on me in H O L Y F * * * E Mafia early Day 1. Well, I also have probs. outside of that. On July 12 2016 15:45 vorono wrote:On July 12 2016 15:37 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 12 2016 15:34 vorono wrote:
can someone just explain what it would mean for a townie "to have a name", i'm not really sure what that means. Ah! A name is a name. Some have many, others have none. Say, friend (if a friend is what you are), what is your name? vorono also you didn't answer the question, i actually don't know what it is and i assume it's something specific to this site Like, that comes off to me as if he is trying to paint sus. on Kruppe for not answering his question (which he did, but is irreverent to to point anyways) He just seems to be following/pushing a scum agenda of Finding/pushing ML making others look sus. Plus, it is so funny that him of all people is complaining about not answering questions. how the hell do you draw that conclusion from me calling someone scum, this is complete bs and reaching.
Show nested quote +He just seems to be following/pushing a scum agenda of Finding/pushing ML making others look sus. like this implies that you know that empoleon is a mislynch, and if he is actually town that is scummy af. (because my reads are sometimes wrong) there is no way you could conclude this from information a town is supposed to have
So you did/were calling him scum?
It came off to me, that because you point out the fact and leading with "also you haven't responded" it sounded like you were trying to voice sus. on Kuppe.
About me supposedly knowing TMI, that is littlerly a memory copy of a description of a scum agenda. Or a part of it at least. That is a part of that agenda, and if I think you are scum, why does that not make sense for me to conclude (on Kuppe) that he is most likely someone you were trying to ML if scum?
On July 13 2016 07:49 vorono wrote:actually no you are calling kruppe a mislynch, i misread that. that's still awful. Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 00:22 Shapelog wrote:On July 13 2016 00:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 12 2016 23:43 Shapelog wrote:On July 12 2016 23:34 LightningStrike wrote:
So Shape what you think of Emperor vs Voro? Just wanting your opinion on it now since it pretty much the center of the game atm. YOU STOLE MY SHIT! Emp: nothing i've seen from him convinces me that he is town, I am going ahead and saying that. His power of postivity (aka the  posts) freak me out and seem kinda forced too me. Like he is restating too much that he is so happy/hype (or did so early on.) But, while I do have problems with him, Nothing is strongly leaning me to consider him scum other then that. Content wise, nothing stood out too out to me other then the weird meta usage. But, I remember when i was starting, and how I meta people off of 1 game as well. Voro: Vovo i....Don't like at all. He is super focus on Emp, tunneling him, not reassessing his read at all it seems, completely ignoring everything else in the thread minus early on with prp. and with Khez. Hasn't answer any questions hardly, tried to turn the interaction with Keppee as if Kepper was dodging a question and was sus for that. So, I really do not like him as of now. He needs to expand his read with new posts, or at least interact with the rest of the thread. If Vovo flips scum, Emp might be more town. If Emp flips scum, idk honestly if that would prove anything. It is so weak at this point, it reminds me of how i buss someone as scum. I dunno I think I generally post a lot of smileys, you could probably look at my posts elsewhere on TL to confirm (oh god please dont)So you think that our interactions (vovo and I) could be scum v scum? I've hosted/cohosted both of those games that you were scum in. I know. And, you where scum. What I mean here, is that early on, you just seemed to be relating the fact that you were hype/happy too much IMO. And given your "haven't rolled town yet" it could make sense for you to do that as scum this game. Mostly Vovo's is the reason why I think so. And no so the interaction, but his push. His push on you is pretty weak now, and reminds me a lot of how i bused people (Doyouhas, TT kinda, Ikido) when i am scum. And given this is a vanilla set up, no mafia role is worth more then the other. But this relys on you flipping scum. The reason why it doesn't work necessary with you bussing him as SvS, is because your not activitly pushing him enough to get cred after it is done IMO. Which is why you bus in the first place. i think this is bad and you are scum by calling him scum while simultaneously accusing me for accusing him, which is just dumb and there's no reason to think that i didn't reach the same conclusion from the same evidence (which i actually did and i tried to explain my thought process). i think that empoleon's comment "so you think we're both scum" is the kind of interaction that partners will have together and you are trying to chain townies to your partner, so it could make sense for you to be scum together.
On July 13 2016 07:52 vorono wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 00:22 Shapelog wrote:On July 13 2016 00:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 12 2016 23:43 Shapelog wrote:On July 12 2016 23:34 LightningStrike wrote:
So Shape what you think of Emperor vs Voro? Just wanting your opinion on it now since it pretty much the center of the game atm. YOU STOLE MY SHIT! Emp: nothing i've seen from him convinces me that he is town, I am going ahead and saying that. His power of postivity (aka the posts) freak me out and seem kinda forced too me. Like he is restating too much that he is so happy/hype (or did so early on.) But, while I do have problems with him, Nothing is strongly leaning me to consider him scum other then that. Content wise, nothing stood out too out to me other then the weird meta usage. But, I remember when i was starting, and how I meta people off of 1 game as well. Voro: Vovo i....Don't like at all. He is super focus on Emp, tunneling him, not reassessing his read at all it seems, completely ignoring everything else in the thread minus early on with prp. and with Khez. Hasn't answer any questions hardly, tried to turn the interaction with Keppee as if Kepper was dodging a question and was sus for that. So, I really do not like him as of now. He needs to expand his read with new posts, or at least interact with the rest of the thread. If Vovo flips scum, Emp might be more town. If Emp flips scum, idk honestly if that would prove anything. It is so weak at this point, it reminds me of how i buss someone as scum. I dunno I think I generally post a lot of smileys, you could probably look at my posts elsewhere on TL to confirm (oh god please dont)So you think that our interactions (vovo and I) could be scum v scum? I've hosted/cohosted both of those games that you were scum in. I know. And, you where scum. What I mean here, is that early on, you just seemed to be relating the fact that you were hype/happy too much IMO. And given your "haven't rolled town yet" it could make sense for you to do that as scum this game. Mostly Vovo's is the reason why I think so. And no so the interaction, but his push. His push on you is pretty weak now, and reminds me a lot of how i bused people (Doyouhas, TT kinda, Ikido) when i am scum. And given this is a vanilla set up, no mafia role is worth more then the other. But this relys on you flipping scum. The reason why it doesn't work necessary with you bussing him as SvS, is because your not activitly pushing him enough to get cred after it is done IMO. Which is why you bus in the first place. furthermore, if you lynch me when i flip town it gives you an excuse to townread empoleon, you can be all like "oh so they werent scum together oh well that invalidates my only point against this evidently upstanding town member"
Yes, I did. I don't associative read the game (or try not to, tho i will admit I do sometimes rant about it) until a scum member actually flips. All my reads are based off of what that one person did (I was heavily chastised for it in certain games.) Yes, you might of had the same read, hell, lets say even the same logic. But, your actions to me then still sounded and looked scummy.
Call it bad all you want, it is something that works with me, and prevents me from tunneling into oblivion with XYZ scum team or bust.
I would be confused too, if someone stated that they thought it could be S v S. I obv don't know why he asked it, other then possibly that.
I never said I would think he is town if you flipped town, nor would I. Hell, wouldn't you think (given my position here) i would be forced to at least follow up on Emp's alignment based off it? Like, this is what I said:
But this relys on you flipping scum. The reason why it doesn't work necessary with you bussing him as SvS, is because your not activitly pushing him enough to get cred after it is done IMO. Which is why you bus in the first place.
How does that come off as me saying that if you flip town, it would be Town v town in my POV?
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On July 13 2016 01:28 Shapelog wrote:
Shapelog too good at this game.
Got one person already to claim scum.
i don't like this and i think you are being deliberately ambiguous about it, especially since he was modkilled and vanilla town.
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On July 13 2016 08:06 Vivax wrote:
I avoided talking about other stuff than LS so I can focus on one thing at a time. I wanted but refrained to talk a bit about Skynx. He seems different to me than in his last game at first glance. Less active and the posts feel different as well. Nothing more concrete until I do another dive though. I was too tunneled to really read much besides LS Damdred, volvo and shape.
I honestly want more out of him too.
Personally out of like the 4 games I seen/played with him. It could be scum indicative, but will have to see more. His scum game he had a strong entrance, even though he still posted less. Here, It is kinda mellow.
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On July 13 2016 08:29 vorono wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 01:28 Shapelog wrote:
Shapelog too good at this game.
Got one person already to claim scum. i don't like this and i think you are being deliberately ambiguous about it, especially since he was modkilled and vanilla town.
Excuse me, but how the is the bolded relevant to this first off? That came way after the fact, and honestly shouldn't be even in the mind when evaluating that post.
2nd, I made clear what I ment by it, and can quote if asked.
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On July 13 2016 08:28 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 07:42 vorono wrote:On July 12 2016 23:54 Shapelog wrote:On July 12 2016 23:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya content wise I didn't have really any problems with Emperor. Can't tell if anything seems forced or not from him. But I think it mostly NAI items atm.
On Voro: Ya he really tunneled on posts that are just NAI I think dunno if it makes him scum or not but it feels like what HF tried to do on me in H O L Y F * * * E Mafia early Day 1. Well, I also have probs. outside of that. On July 12 2016 15:45 vorono wrote:On July 12 2016 15:37 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 12 2016 15:34 vorono wrote:
can someone just explain what it would mean for a townie "to have a name", i'm not really sure what that means. Ah! A name is a name. Some have many, others have none. Say, friend (if a friend is what you are), what is your name? vorono also you didn't answer the question, i actually don't know what it is and i assume it's something specific to this site Like, that comes off to me as if he is trying to paint sus. on Kruppe for not answering his question (which he did, but is irreverent to to point anyways) He just seems to be following/pushing a scum agenda of Finding/pushing ML making others look sus. Plus, it is so funny that him of all people is complaining about not answering questions. how the hell do you draw that conclusion from me calling someone scum, this is complete bs and reaching.
He just seems to be following/pushing a scum agenda of Finding/pushing ML making others look sus. like this implies that you know that empoleon is a mislynch, and if he is actually town that is scummy af. (because my reads are sometimes wrong) there is no way you could conclude this from information a town is supposed to have So you did/were calling him scum? It came off to me, that because you point out the fact and leading with "also you haven't responded" it sounded like you were trying to voice sus. on Kuppe. About me supposedly knowing TMI, that is littlerly a memory copy of a description of a scum agenda. Or a part of it at least. That is a part of that agenda, and if I think you are scum, why does that not make sense for me to conclude (on Kuppe) that he is most likely someone you were trying to ML if scum?
no, i misread the first part and thought you were talking about empoleon not kruppe, i wasn't calling kruppe scum and i don't know if he is or not.
no i was asking him just because i wanted to know, that isn't "trying to throw shade" at all.
because that was the reasoning for you calling me scum, not a conclusion. you didn't say "oh kruppe is town because vorono is trying to accuse him", you said "oh vorono is scum because he's trying to mislynch kruppe". also, because you stated it offhand as opposed to actually explaining that.
this response convinces me more that you're scum because you ask rhetorical questions "why couldn't it be this? or this?" rather than actually saying what you think.
Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 07:49 vorono wrote:actually no you are calling kruppe a mislynch, i misread that. that's still awful. On July 13 2016 00:22 Shapelog wrote:On July 13 2016 00:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 12 2016 23:43 Shapelog wrote:On July 12 2016 23:34 LightningStrike wrote:
So Shape what you think of Emperor vs Voro? Just wanting your opinion on it now since it pretty much the center of the game atm. YOU STOLE MY SHIT! Emp: nothing i've seen from him convinces me that he is town, I am going ahead and saying that. His power of postivity (aka the posts) freak me out and seem kinda forced too me. Like he is restating too much that he is so happy/hype (or did so early on.) But, while I do have problems with him, Nothing is strongly leaning me to consider him scum other then that. Content wise, nothing stood out too out to me other then the weird meta usage. But, I remember when i was starting, and how I meta people off of 1 game as well. Voro: Vovo i....Don't like at all. He is super focus on Emp, tunneling him, not reassessing his read at all it seems, completely ignoring everything else in the thread minus early on with prp. and with Khez. Hasn't answer any questions hardly, tried to turn the interaction with Keppee as if Kepper was dodging a question and was sus for that. So, I really do not like him as of now. He needs to expand his read with new posts, or at least interact with the rest of the thread. If Vovo flips scum, Emp might be more town. If Emp flips scum, idk honestly if that would prove anything. It is so weak at this point, it reminds me of how i buss someone as scum. I dunno I think I generally post a lot of smileys, you could probably look at my posts elsewhere on TL to confirm (oh god please dont)So you think that our interactions (vovo and I) could be scum v scum? I've hosted/cohosted both of those games that you were scum in. I know. And, you where scum. What I mean here, is that early on, you just seemed to be relating the fact that you were hype/happy too much IMO. And given your "haven't rolled town yet" it could make sense for you to do that as scum this game. Mostly Vovo's is the reason why I think so. And no so the interaction, but his push. His push on you is pretty weak now, and reminds me a lot of how i bused people (Doyouhas, TT kinda, Ikido) when i am scum. And given this is a vanilla set up, no mafia role is worth more then the other. But this relys on you flipping scum. The reason why it doesn't work necessary with you bussing him as SvS, is because your not activitly pushing him enough to get cred after it is done IMO. Which is why you bus in the first place. i think this is bad and you are scum by calling him scum while simultaneously accusing me for accusing him, which is just dumb and there's no reason to think that i didn't reach the same conclusion from the same evidence (which i actually did and i tried to explain my thought process). i think that empoleon's comment "so you think we're both scum" is the kind of interaction that partners will have together and you are trying to chain townies to your partner, so it could make sense for you to be scum together. Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 07:52 vorono wrote:On July 13 2016 00:22 Shapelog wrote:On July 13 2016 00:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 12 2016 23:43 Shapelog wrote:On July 12 2016 23:34 LightningStrike wrote:
So Shape what you think of Emperor vs Voro? Just wanting your opinion on it now since it pretty much the center of the game atm. YOU STOLE MY SHIT! Emp: nothing i've seen from him convinces me that he is town, I am going ahead and saying that. His power of postivity (aka the posts) freak me out and seem kinda forced too me. Like he is restating too much that he is so happy/hype (or did so early on.) But, while I do have problems with him, Nothing is strongly leaning me to consider him scum other then that. Content wise, nothing stood out too out to me other then the weird meta usage. But, I remember when i was starting, and how I meta people off of 1 game as well. Voro: Vovo i....Don't like at all. He is super focus on Emp, tunneling him, not reassessing his read at all it seems, completely ignoring everything else in the thread minus early on with prp. and with Khez. Hasn't answer any questions hardly, tried to turn the interaction with Keppee as if Kepper was dodging a question and was sus for that. So, I really do not like him as of now. He needs to expand his read with new posts, or at least interact with the rest of the thread. If Vovo flips scum, Emp might be more town. If Emp flips scum, idk honestly if that would prove anything. It is so weak at this point, it reminds me of how i buss someone as scum. I dunno I think I generally post a lot of smileys, you could probably look at my posts elsewhere on TL to confirm (oh god please dont)So you think that our interactions (vovo and I) could be scum v scum? I've hosted/cohosted both of those games that you were scum in. I know. And, you where scum. What I mean here, is that early on, you just seemed to be relating the fact that you were hype/happy too much IMO. And given your "haven't rolled town yet" it could make sense for you to do that as scum this game. Mostly Vovo's is the reason why I think so. And no so the interaction, but his push. His push on you is pretty weak now, and reminds me a lot of how i bused people (Doyouhas, TT kinda, Ikido) when i am scum. And given this is a vanilla set up, no mafia role is worth more then the other. But this relys on you flipping scum. The reason why it doesn't work necessary with you bussing him as SvS, is because your not activitly pushing him enough to get cred after it is done IMO. Which is why you bus in the first place. furthermore, if you lynch me when i flip town it gives you an excuse to townread empoleon, you can be all like "oh so they werent scum together oh well that invalidates my only point against this evidently upstanding town member" Yes, I did. I don't associative read the game (or try not to, tho i will admit I do sometimes rant about it) until a scum member actually flips. All my reads are based off of what that one person did (I was heavily chastised for it in certain games.) Yes, you might of had the same read, hell, lets say even the same logic. But, your actions to me then still sounded and looked scummy. Call it bad all you want, it is something that works with me, and prevents me from tunneling into oblivion with XYZ scum team or bust. I would be confused too, if someone stated that they thought it could be S v S. I obv don't know why he asked it, other then possibly that. I never said I would think he is town if you flipped town, nor would I. Hell, wouldn't you think (given my position here) i would be forced to at least follow up on Emp's alignment based off it? Like, this is what I said: Show nested quote +But this relys on you flipping scum. The reason why it doesn't work necessary with you bussing him as SvS, is because your not activitly pushing him enough to get cred after it is done IMO. Which is why you bus in the first place. How does that come off as me saying that if you flip town, it would be Town v town in my POV?
that was the definition an associative read dude.
well i didn't read up to that part yet w/e
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On July 13 2016 08:34 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 08:29 vorono wrote:On July 13 2016 01:28 Shapelog wrote:
Shapelog too good at this game.
Got one person already to claim scum. i don't like this and i think you are being deliberately ambiguous about it, especially since he was modkilled and vanilla town. Excuse me, but how the is the bolded relevant to this first off? That came way after the fact, and honestly shouldn't be even in the mind when evaluating that post. 2nd, I made clear what I ment by it, and can quote if asked.
scum caught for wrong reasons, you think that flips can't be used against you well i just did come at me
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explain how he scumclaimed because i really don't think he did and you were just overreacting to the entire thing
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On July 13 2016 07:42 prplhz wrote:
i need to shower and my foot is FUCKED
just gonna vote for DCWasabi
##Vote DCWasabi
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Prplhz,
Your push on me is totally unfounded.
On July 13 2016 07:57 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 07:47 Vivax wrote:
Not sure if I should treat LS as modconfirmed town, but I will and otherwise the game is invalid. yea and vorono seems town too, anyway lets go in a new direction. what you think about DCWasabi? he seems less focused and more nervous to me this game.
Actually, I am more focused and less nervous this game.
Not sure how to prove that, but you guys can read my filter for yourself.
Need to figure out who I think is scummy now that LS is out of the picture, too bad we had to waste so many posts on that shit...
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On July 13 2016 08:39 vorono wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 08:28 Shapelog wrote:On July 13 2016 07:42 vorono wrote:On July 12 2016 23:54 Shapelog wrote:On July 12 2016 23:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya content wise I didn't have really any problems with Emperor. Can't tell if anything seems forced or not from him. But I think it mostly NAI items atm.
On Voro: Ya he really tunneled on posts that are just NAI I think dunno if it makes him scum or not but it feels like what HF tried to do on me in H O L Y F * * * E Mafia early Day 1. Well, I also have probs. outside of that. On July 12 2016 15:45 vorono wrote:On July 12 2016 15:37 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 12 2016 15:34 vorono wrote:
can someone just explain what it would mean for a townie "to have a name", i'm not really sure what that means. Ah! A name is a name. Some have many, others have none. Say, friend (if a friend is what you are), what is your name? vorono also you didn't answer the question, i actually don't know what it is and i assume it's something specific to this site Like, that comes off to me as if he is trying to paint sus. on Kruppe for not answering his question (which he did, but is irreverent to to point anyways) He just seems to be following/pushing a scum agenda of Finding/pushing ML making others look sus. Plus, it is so funny that him of all people is complaining about not answering questions. how the hell do you draw that conclusion from me calling someone scum, this is complete bs and reaching.
He just seems to be following/pushing a scum agenda of Finding/pushing ML making others look sus. like this implies that you know that empoleon is a mislynch, and if he is actually town that is scummy af. (because my reads are sometimes wrong) there is no way you could conclude this from information a town is supposed to have So you did/were calling him scum? It came off to me, that because you point out the fact and leading with "also you haven't responded" it sounded like you were trying to voice sus. on Kuppe. About me supposedly knowing TMI, that is littlerly a memory copy of a description of a scum agenda. Or a part of it at least. That is a part of that agenda, and if I think you are scum, why does that not make sense for me to conclude (on Kuppe) that he is most likely someone you were trying to ML if scum? no, i misread the first part and thought you were talking about empoleon not kruppe, i wasn't calling kruppe scum and i don't know if he is or not. no i was asking him just because i wanted to know, that isn't "trying to throw shade" at all. because that was the reasoning for you calling me scum, not a conclusion. you didn't say "oh kruppe is town because vorono is trying to accuse him", you said "oh vorono is scum because he's trying to mislynch kruppe". also, because you stated it offhand as opposed to actually explaining that. this response convinces me more that you're scum because you ask rhetorical questions "why couldn't it be this? or this?" rather than actually saying what you think. Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 07:49 vorono wrote:actually no you are calling kruppe a mislynch, i misread that. that's still awful. On July 13 2016 00:22 Shapelog wrote:On July 13 2016 00:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 12 2016 23:43 Shapelog wrote:On July 12 2016 23:34 LightningStrike wrote:
So Shape what you think of Emperor vs Voro? Just wanting your opinion on it now since it pretty much the center of the game atm. YOU STOLE MY SHIT! Emp: nothing i've seen from him convinces me that he is town, I am going ahead and saying that. His power of postivity (aka the posts) freak me out and seem kinda forced too me. Like he is restating too much that he is so happy/hype (or did so early on.) But, while I do have problems with him, Nothing is strongly leaning me to consider him scum other then that. Content wise, nothing stood out too out to me other then the weird meta usage. But, I remember when i was starting, and how I meta people off of 1 game as well. Voro: Vovo i....Don't like at all. He is super focus on Emp, tunneling him, not reassessing his read at all it seems, completely ignoring everything else in the thread minus early on with prp. and with Khez. Hasn't answer any questions hardly, tried to turn the interaction with Keppee as if Kepper was dodging a question and was sus for that. So, I really do not like him as of now. He needs to expand his read with new posts, or at least interact with the rest of the thread. If Vovo flips scum, Emp might be more town. If Emp flips scum, idk honestly if that would prove anything. It is so weak at this point, it reminds me of how i buss someone as scum. I dunno I think I generally post a lot of smileys, you could probably look at my posts elsewhere on TL to confirm (oh god please dont)So you think that our interactions (vovo and I) could be scum v scum? I've hosted/cohosted both of those games that you were scum in. I know. And, you where scum. What I mean here, is that early on, you just seemed to be relating the fact that you were hype/happy too much IMO. And given your "haven't rolled town yet" it could make sense for you to do that as scum this game. Mostly Vovo's is the reason why I think so. And no so the interaction, but his push. His push on you is pretty weak now, and reminds me a lot of how i bused people (Doyouhas, TT kinda, Ikido) when i am scum. And given this is a vanilla set up, no mafia role is worth more then the other. But this relys on you flipping scum. The reason why it doesn't work necessary with you bussing him as SvS, is because your not activitly pushing him enough to get cred after it is done IMO. Which is why you bus in the first place. i think this is bad and you are scum by calling him scum while simultaneously accusing me for accusing him, which is just dumb and there's no reason to think that i didn't reach the same conclusion from the same evidence (which i actually did and i tried to explain my thought process). i think that empoleon's comment "so you think we're both scum" is the kind of interaction that partners will have together and you are trying to chain townies to your partner, so it could make sense for you to be scum together. On July 13 2016 07:52 vorono wrote:On July 13 2016 00:22 Shapelog wrote:On July 13 2016 00:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 12 2016 23:43 Shapelog wrote:On July 12 2016 23:34 LightningStrike wrote:
So Shape what you think of Emperor vs Voro? Just wanting your opinion on it now since it pretty much the center of the game atm. YOU STOLE MY SHIT! Emp: nothing i've seen from him convinces me that he is town, I am going ahead and saying that. His power of postivity (aka the posts) freak me out and seem kinda forced too me. Like he is restating too much that he is so happy/hype (or did so early on.) But, while I do have problems with him, Nothing is strongly leaning me to consider him scum other then that. Content wise, nothing stood out too out to me other then the weird meta usage. But, I remember when i was starting, and how I meta people off of 1 game as well. Voro: Vovo i....Don't like at all. He is super focus on Emp, tunneling him, not reassessing his read at all it seems, completely ignoring everything else in the thread minus early on with prp. and with Khez. Hasn't answer any questions hardly, tried to turn the interaction with Keppee as if Kepper was dodging a question and was sus for that. So, I really do not like him as of now. He needs to expand his read with new posts, or at least interact with the rest of the thread. If Vovo flips scum, Emp might be more town. If Emp flips scum, idk honestly if that would prove anything. It is so weak at this point, it reminds me of how i buss someone as scum. I dunno I think I generally post a lot of smileys, you could probably look at my posts elsewhere on TL to confirm (oh god please dont)So you think that our interactions (vovo and I) could be scum v scum? I've hosted/cohosted both of those games that you were scum in. I know. And, you where scum. What I mean here, is that early on, you just seemed to be relating the fact that you were hype/happy too much IMO. And given your "haven't rolled town yet" it could make sense for you to do that as scum this game. Mostly Vovo's is the reason why I think so. And no so the interaction, but his push. His push on you is pretty weak now, and reminds me a lot of how i bused people (Doyouhas, TT kinda, Ikido) when i am scum. And given this is a vanilla set up, no mafia role is worth more then the other. But this relys on you flipping scum. The reason why it doesn't work necessary with you bussing him as SvS, is because your not activitly pushing him enough to get cred after it is done IMO. Which is why you bus in the first place. furthermore, if you lynch me when i flip town it gives you an excuse to townread empoleon, you can be all like "oh so they werent scum together oh well that invalidates my only point against this evidently upstanding town member" Yes, I did. I don't associative read the game (or try not to, tho i will admit I do sometimes rant about it) until a scum member actually flips. All my reads are based off of what that one person did (I was heavily chastised for it in certain games.) Yes, you might of had the same read, hell, lets say even the same logic. But, your actions to me then still sounded and looked scummy. Call it bad all you want, it is something that works with me, and prevents me from tunneling into oblivion with XYZ scum team or bust. I would be confused too, if someone stated that they thought it could be S v S. I obv don't know why he asked it, other then possibly that. I never said I would think he is town if you flipped town, nor would I. Hell, wouldn't you think (given my position here) i would be forced to at least follow up on Emp's alignment based off it? Like, this is what I said: But this relys on you flipping scum. The reason why it doesn't work necessary with you bussing him as SvS, is because your not activitly pushing him enough to get cred after it is done IMO. Which is why you bus in the first place. How does that come off as me saying that if you flip town, it would be Town v town in my POV? that was the definition an associative read dude. well i didn't read up to that part yet w/e
Yes, I was trying to explain the other thing I found with you, and brought up the scum agenda point. Now your irked with me about the conclusion of that post? the conclusion of that post was about the point itself.
Let's read it again:
Like, that comes off to me as if he is trying to paint sus. on Kruppe for not answering his question (which he did, but is irreverent to to point anyways)
He just seems to be following/pushing a scum agenda of Finding/pushing ML making others look sus.
Point of post: Explain the point about the Kuppee post.
Conclusion:He just seems to be following/pushing a scum agenda of Finding/pushing ML making others look sus.
About explaining it, no one else wanted to know it at the time, and that on paper made sense to me. Ik what it means, because I know what is behind it, and I could explain it.
What the bold? Yeah it is. And in that case, it is in a world where you have flipped, and have flipped scum. It also is answering the question I was asked.
On July 13 2016 08:40 vorono wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 08:34 Shapelog wrote:On July 13 2016 08:29 vorono wrote:On July 13 2016 01:28 Shapelog wrote:
Shapelog too good at this game.
Got one person already to claim scum. i don't like this and i think you are being deliberately ambiguous about it, especially since he was modkilled and vanilla town. Excuse me, but how the is the bolded relevant to this first off? That came way after the fact, and honestly shouldn't be even in the mind when evaluating that post. 2nd, I made clear what I ment by it, and can quote if asked. scum caught for wrong reasons, you think that flips can't be used against you well i just did come at me
Townie who cannot believe someone is this zealous.
It isn't the fact you used the flip, you using it to try to call X sus. when the flip info wasn't out at that time. It is like saying "Player Shapelog is sus. due to pushing and questioning Y because he flipped town." How is Player Shapelog consider scum? Because he pushed someone who ended up being town? How should that player know at the time that that player would flip town? They shouldn't
On July 13 2016 08:41 vorono wrote:
explain how he scumclaimed because i really don't think he did and you were just overreacting to the entire thing
On July 13 2016 01:27 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 01:26 LightningStrike wrote:On July 13 2016 01:24 Shapelog wrote:On July 13 2016 01:22 LightningStrike wrote:On July 13 2016 01:16 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: LightningStrike Yawn good luck lynching me I haven't been lynched Day 1 as town in a long while ;D You really are making me want to lynch you now, based off of this. Go ahead and try then if you must but be warned you will be disappointed when you what I flip ;D Oh your mafia? Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 01:22 LightningStrike wrote:On July 13 2016 01:16 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: LightningStrike Yawn good luck lynching me I haven't been lynched Day 1 as town in a long while ;D EZ GAME!
On July 13 2016 01:30 Shapelog wrote:
I mean, LS just latterly told me I would be disappointment when he flips, when i am lynching him on the idea of getting him lynched as town. Meaning he would have to be mafia....
I mean, either way I suppose I win.
The reasoning behind that post
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On July 13 2016 08:56 DCWasabi wrote:Prplhz, Your push on me is totally unfounded. Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 07:57 prplhz wrote:On July 13 2016 07:47 Vivax wrote:
Not sure if I should treat LS as modconfirmed town, but I will and otherwise the game is invalid. yea and vorono seems town too, anyway lets go in a new direction. what you think about DCWasabi? he seems less focused and more nervous to me this game. Actually, I am more focused and less nervous this game. Not sure how to prove that, but you guys can read my filter for yourself. Need to figure out who I think is scummy now that LS is out of the picture, too bad we had to waste so many posts on that shit...
it wasn't useless. You got info out of it on people like me/vivax/Dammy about how we acted about it and what not.
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Town Reads: Wasabi, Damdred, Vivax
Null: Shape, Kelsier, Vorono, Kush, Kruppe, Snickers
Scummy: Emp, Prplhz, Skynx
We could Policy Lynch Snickers for 0 activity, but I feel like there are better choices.
For EMP, I want to go back to this post of his (trying to defend his early logical leap)...
+ Show Spoiler +On July 12 2016 22:21 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 14:39 DCWasabi wrote:On July 12 2016 13:29 emperorchampion wrote:On July 12 2016 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Hi again finally home with pizza in my stomach.
First thing, it seemed emperor your hype level was a bit high. What did you get out of your conversation with prp anything worthwhile?
@snickers, so we meet again. This time will we once again be at each other's throats or be cordial. As for my part I'm going to try to be cordial and work with you if I think you are town.
Ls ls idk why I make snap judgements on your alignment but I do. Do you want to take a guess at what it is?
Prp well meh, it just depends on what I feel like doing during the game whether I can push a Lynch or not. Put me in a game with Palmar Marv and a few others (people who listen) I can get it done effectively well. Put me in a gamr with someone like rayn I'll get yelled down every time.
Just happy to be playin the game also trying to get people into the thread lol I think prp was a lot less neutral last game from what I observed in obs so I'll be interested in seeing how he play out this game. I think it makes sense in the context of him coming across really scummy in the first half of day 1 last game he wants to take a more back seat roll, so I'd be willing to give some town points for that. Anyhow more tomorrow gotta head to bed meow I don't agree with this reasoning. You are saying that Prp tried to be more active last game than he usually is (and he was town), but it didn't work out well for him... so the fact that he is being passive here is an adjustment to that, indicating that he is town? I find that to be a bit of a stretch because if he is normally passive, then that would still be the best method for him to employ in order to blend in if he is Mafia. I don't think it points either way. I think you misinterpreted a little bit what I said, I'm comparing last game with this game. If you're getting scum read last game as a townie for doing things, it makes sense to me not to do those things as a townie this game.
This clarification still makes no sense... As a mafia, you wouldn't do thoise things that got you scum read last game either! He would avoid those things regardless of alighment. Mafia want to avoid being scumread just as much as town!
This has no bearing on whether prp is town or mafia this game.
For Prp, mostly because he is tunneling me and I am town. Also, no useful contributions thus far.
For Skynx, need more posts, but she could be posting just enough to try and avoid suspicion without contributing anything useful.
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