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On July 27 2016 05:14 emperorchampion wrote:
whoa, I just stumbled upon one more nail that I had forgotten about.
Early in the game prpl had some line of questioning on lunatic, and the end result was a town read. Which at the time I didn't find too odd due to lunatic being town read hard, but in retrospect I remember the conclusion being really weak.
i said i really wanted to scum read him for not making sense but i wasn't gonna lynch him d1 because he was a newbie with tons of activity
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On July 27 2016 05:38 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2016 05:27 Lunaticman wrote:
In hindsight I did pretty good for having half the town scum read me because I have no previous meta/ lots of activity. Who is scumreading you?
he's been saying this all game
all game he's been saying that people are scumreading him when they aren't
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can someone explain this fake breadcrumb thing to me
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On July 27 2016 06:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Which I think is pretty silly because it would be guaranteed to backfire on you anyway.
this times 1000
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On July 27 2016 06:50 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2016 06:48 prplhz wrote:On July 27 2016 06:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Which I think is pretty silly because it would be guaranteed to backfire on you anyway. this times 1000 Why would you not set him straight before hammering then lol? Also why would you hammer someone who thought you were a blue role?
I don't even understand this.
First of all: sicklucker didn't think I was blue.
Second of all: Why should I think that him thinking I'm blue precludes me from being scum?
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WHY CAN'T HE BE SCUM IF HE THINKS I'M BLUE
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On July 27 2016 06:50 Rels wrote:
Yo I'm drunk and too tired toplay so see yoi tomorrow,
who gets drunk on a tuesday
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i'm not quite a champion but i'll drink to this game
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On July 27 2016 07:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2016 06:56 prplhz wrote:On July 27 2016 06:50 emperorchampion wrote:On July 27 2016 06:48 prplhz wrote:On July 27 2016 06:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Which I think is pretty silly because it would be guaranteed to backfire on you anyway. this times 1000 Why would you not set him straight before hammering then lol? Also why would you hammer someone who thought you were a blue role? I don't even understand this. First of all: sicklucker didn't think I was blue. Second of all: Why should I think that him thinking I'm blue precludes me from being scum? He very clearly thought that you were blue. Nothing, but it just doesn't make a lick of sense to me. Like if you see that someone is reading you as cop and then you think that it will come to bite you in the ass later, why wouldn't you say something?
then it's odd that he considers the possibility that i'm scum later
considering that you claim he thinks i'm an uncc'd blue
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there's a reason sicklucker went so hard on Kruppe the Eel d2 and that's because you don't make half a claim
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On July 27 2016 11:06 DCWasabi wrote:I just reread Tumble's whole filter. One thing that leaped out at me is he doesn't even mention prpl ONCE until the end of page 5. At this point he says just these 2 short posts where he briefly town-reads him, then moves on and never mentions him again: Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 01:47 Tumblewood wrote:On July 24 2016 01:43 Lunaticman wrote:
And haze is pretty scummy for just dropping by and voting tumble like that. hm maybe I need to read prplhz's filter. he had one post that I know looked like genuine emotion but maaaybe strategic use of all caps? Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 01:49 Tumblewood wrote:
prplhz was first on rels so probably town (combined with other things) EC, if you are suspicious of Prpl for not associating with Luna, shouldn't this make you doubly suspicious? It makes me suspicious. He didn't mention Prpl until he already had more content posted then I have for the whole damn game, lol. Did Prpl's alignment magically never cross his mind? His logic did sway me a bit too, you all know that I was town-reading Prpl almost the entire game; and it was in part due to these posts made by Tumble (who I mistakenly trusted).
##vote Prplhz
eh you didn't read Tumblewood's whole filter you just went into his filter and searched "prplhz" because he mentions me before that, just using "prp" instead to refer to me. you'd know that if you read his filter but you didn't.
also doesn't make sense that you townread me "almost the entire game" for a post a scum made less than 6 hours before he was lynched. especially not when you don't think it was because he had good arguments, but because you trusted him.
you also townread me here before Tumblewood even posted any of that.
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On July 27 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2016 02:36 prplhz wrote:On July 27 2016 02:07 Rels wrote:I'm caught up. prp I'm pretty convinced you're scum. You have some time to convince me otherwise (unless another terrible dude hammer again today). Not gonna vote you until I reread your filter but this is what I have in mind. I think you are scum because: - Koshi died, when before deadline he tunneled you hardcore for a short period of time, before going on sicklucker. I think if sicklucker had managed to prove his innocence he would have gone back to you.
- related to the above, you hammered sicklucker. Hammering is retarded, ESPECIALLY since sicklucker never had the chance to defend himself from the cases against him. Hammering after hearing sicklucker's defense and not believing it is kinda retarded too but less so; but you hammered him before he could speak, several hours before deadline. It's very possible you feared he would come back and prove his townieness, and the lynch would switch to you or your partner; hence the hammer.
- I remember a post from you in particular when you were on Tumblewood D2 where you were kinda on him but trying to lynch someone else. This is partner indicative; sitting on your partner to gain towncred in case he's lynched, but trying to save him because it's better if he doesn't die. I think Koshi had a good post about that during D3.
- when under pressure a few hours ago, you said you were going to hammer yourself, before going back on your word. There is no town motivation to do that. If you're dead, we have a fair chance to lose the game with all our blues being dead already. This looks like a bluff to make him seem like you're town to me.
eh okay this case is really bad generally you just make the wrong conclusions for what appears to be no reason gonna wait until you read my filter before responding but overall 1) koshi dying n3 means nothing 2) this narrative is retarded 3) talked about this already 4) hmm okay Show nested quote +On July 27 2016 02:37 prplhz wrote:
4) is literally "town has no reason to do this so you're scum doing it to look town" lol This doesn't explain anything from what I've said. In particular, the 4) point is something scum do all the time. "too scummy to be scum" is a thing scum do when they are in a bad spot.
i don't even know what you're trying to say but Grackaroni explained everything rather well even though i disagree with his answer to 2) because of something you mention right here. the "bad spot" thing.
the only "good" thing to come out of this for scum was 3 hours less of discussion. but why would scum put themselves in my position for 3 hours less discussion? was that really worth it? didn't everything in the thread point at a sicklucker lynch anyway? was anyone else (me or my scumbuddy) even tangentially threatened? did anything indicate that in those 3 hours, something bad would actually happen for scum?
the thread and the town was like this: a lot of people wanted to kill sicklucker and Koshi was sort of all over the place for a couple of hours but then he settled down. i don't really remember what other people wanted because it wasn't really fleshed out enough and rather unlikely to happen anyway. why would scum feel like they had to risk anything to hammer under those circumstances?
and you can say it was because Koshi thought i was scum for a total of 6½ minutes but he completely turned around on that after i wrote two more posts. you can also read my replies to his accusations and see if i feel threatened or pressured or whatever. post some quotes.
the idea that we town could've used those 3 hours of discussion and therefore anyone who openly denies town these 3 hours is 100% scum is just naïve. and generally wrong.
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On July 27 2016 18:17 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2016 04:54 prplhz wrote:
there
i can bluff about being the last vote on me but not about being the first vote on me
not lynching Lunaticman in a million years It doesn't make any more sense from a town perspective though.
but the argument "this does not look townie so it must be scum doing it to look town" is just so convoluted and backwards and circular that it'll take you anywhere you wanna go
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On July 27 2016 19:10 Rels wrote:You can always concede
okay i concede
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just fukin hammer me already
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i'da lynched DCWasabi -> emperorchampion -> Skynx
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breakdown of why it was bad that i hammered:
less time to discuss: 1%
you guys freaking out about it way more than i had anticipated: 99%
in hindsight sicklucker could have been cop but i didn't think he was because i thought he would have claimed start/middle of d3. thought the same thing about Koshi though so i was wrong.
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d3 is obviously wrong as it only took 5 to lynch
Skynx switched to DCWasabi before lynch
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EPT
