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Town:
Skynx (solid play, at least 3 posts that makes him rather town over mafia.)
Shapelog (the things he does look like they come from town trying to solve the game.)
Vivax (to others: I would leave him alive due to meta and the fact he can't keep this up as mafia, easy read later.)
Townlean:
nnn_thekushmountains (Overall very positive play. however,I think he can play like this as mafia, but he made 1 really good post that came very likely from town)
VayneAuthority (too chill, not trying to influence thread too much, not putting himself in a position he will be able to influence the thread in the future. meta)
Palmar (I would be really surprised, just looking at the right places imo. but this really definitive last couple of posts were really meh. I don't know. Maybe this thing he is doing is mafia, But most likely town for now)
not lynch:
DCWasabi (1 good post. going to keep him in the game for that. )
Damdred ( the thing with the towncircle etc looked dangerous to do as mafia. You generally don't want to townread everybody so fast, his play is underwhelming as fuck though. But he tends to have those moments. I would give him till tomorrow.)
mafia:
sicklucker (explained)
prplhz (makes really silly posts)
VisceraEyes (Just Nope)
Race Bannon (Last posts had maybe a townie tone, but the strong / extremely weak moments are just confusing me)
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Btw here's my usual D1 guess for who's scum. RB and Koshi went to townpile, RB slightly less but he can stay there while the game is "complex", mostly cause every time he answers a question I feel punched in the face and I don't think mafia wants that.
(Palmar), VA, DCW, prplhz.
The jokers are VE and kush. Meaning I'm reserving judgment on them while the above are alive.
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On July 07 2016 04:32 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2016 04:27 Damdred wrote:
Shape who should I look at to give opinions on right now in your opinion?
Btw I think vivax is town for his activity and questioning people I hope we can work together this game
RN, I am about to look at Kush, cuz some of his posts bothered me when I caught up. Overall, the thread is focused around Prp/SL/RB/Wasbai/Va for today's lynch and maybe Vivax. If I was you, in your shoes. Given the fact I wouldn't know anything. I would look at all of those above + anyone you find scummy like always. Or just read the last few pages and give opinions.
Well I already have an opinion on vivax which is sort of against my policy tbh.
Which of Kush posts bothered you exactly?
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Sorry for not answering your post Shapelog.
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On July 07 2016 04:27 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2016 04:20 DCWasabi wrote:
You are right, I didn't reply to this:
"Have you ever called anyone mafia before? Cause it seems here like you felt like you found an argument and then weren't confident enough to push it on kush, but I understand you're new, I just don't know how much."
No, I have never played forum Mafia before.
And, I did that post not because I strongly suspected Kush at the time (though I do think so now), but rather to gauge people's reactions and see who would be helpful. At that time there was no meaningful discussion going. You did NOT believe that kush's post would help discerning his alignment? You only posted it to gauge reactions? A lot of reactions were gauged even without your post, but they seem to be unimportant to you. VE (and I think Palmar) gave him a townread, Koshi called it null, I criticized it without guessing the alignment. Not the post you actually quote but the followup. Anyway, you completely dropped your own post afterwards when you voted prpl. Did you actually gain info from that post and if yes, what?
No I didn't end up getting anything concrete from it, just some feelings. Game is hard.
I need to go now.
I am happy with my contribution/vote for this deadline.
Cya later.
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On July 07 2016 04:36 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2016 04:27 Vivax wrote:On July 07 2016 04:20 DCWasabi wrote:
You are right, I didn't reply to this:
"Have you ever called anyone mafia before? Cause it seems here like you felt like you found an argument and then weren't confident enough to push it on kush, but I understand you're new, I just don't know how much."
No, I have never played forum Mafia before.
And, I did that post not because I strongly suspected Kush at the time (though I do think so now), but rather to gauge people's reactions and see who would be helpful. At that time there was no meaningful discussion going. You did NOT believe that kush's post would help discerning his alignment? You only posted it to gauge reactions? A lot of reactions were gauged even without your post, but they seem to be unimportant to you. VE (and I think Palmar) gave him a townread, Koshi called it null, I criticized it without guessing the alignment. Not the post you actually quote but the followup. Anyway, you completely dropped your own post afterwards when you voted prpl. Did you actually gain info from that post and if yes, what? No I didn't end up getting anything concrete from it, just some feelings. Game is hard. I need to go now. I am happy with my contribution/vote for this deadline. Cya later.
That's not the question.
I asked you if you BELIEVED that you were onto something.
Cause it makes a difference in how I treat the fact that you tread so lightly in judging kush and that you overexplain the reason why you quote that post by using the guide.
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Or better, that was only the last question you answered. But what I just mentioned feels as important to me.
Cause that post was extremely polished.
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Abstimmung - Tag 1
VayneAuthority (3): nnn_thekushmountains, VisceraEyes, Race Bannon, sicklucker
prplhz(2): Koshi, Skynx
Vivax (2): VayneAuthority, Palmar
sicklucker (1): Palmar, Koshi
Race Bannon (1): prplhz
prplhz (1): DCWasabi
DCWasabi (1): nnn_thekushmountains
Damdred (0): Palmar
Koshi (0): Palmar
Nicht abgestimmt (2): Shapelog, Damdred, Vivax
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Hmm. prplhz making a list right when Vivax and I do it... dnu, might keep him in just for that. Let me think about the list:
On July 07 2016 04:32 prplhz wrote:
okay d1 resume town tier list (and more):
Skynx Palmar Koshi Race Bannon DCWasabi
rest are iffy tier
Skynx is actually reading through old games and stuff.
Palmar because Skynx meta analysis.
Koshi because for now I'm just gonna assume that he really got super mad about some minor things which seems townie enough.
Race Bannon because mafia 101.
DCWasabi seems alright for a newbie. I actually liked his case on me.
Rest didn't make much impression on me.
Would not lynch tier:
VisceraEyes looks sort of good but he didn't do much, especially last night when he was like "Wow 5 pages!" and then he didn't actually do anything. It's this looking-good/not-doing-that-much thing that disturbs. Maybe I'm just used to him being more vocal.
Vivax is kind of the same thing. Didn't really do much to make me think town but he seems sort of level headed all the time while still pushing odd stuff. nnn_thekushmountains too.
Could be persuaded to lynch with relative ease tier:
Damdred, VayneAuthority, sicklucker.
No idea tier: Shapelog.
Don't really have a clear scum read on anyone, just a bunch of people I think are town and a bunch of people I think I would get a better idea about if they were around for another day and then the rest.
I don't like the townreads AT ALL. Almost not a single one.
skynx town cuz he reads old games? ez much?
Palmar town cuz meta skynx provided? How the fuck does that work?
RB cause mafia 101? I don't even know what that is.
DCWasabi townread is like ... w0t?
The 3 null reads are better.
Suspicion on VE
Vivax and Kush reads are based on his own reads which might indicate he is not faking his own reads? Or at least is doing a good job picking out players who made posts not agreeing with his reads.
Not having an idea on Shape is also w.e
on the one hand, not so hard to fake one as mafia
on the other hand, not so hard to make one as town.
I don't know about this prplhz guy.
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On July 07 2016 04:35 Vivax wrote:
Btw here's my usual D1 guess for who's scum. RB and Koshi went to townpile, RB slightly less but he can stay there while the game is "complex", mostly cause every time he answers a question I feel punched in the face and I don't think mafia wants that.
(Palmar), VA, DCW, prplhz.
The jokers are VE and kush. Meaning I'm reserving judgment on them while the above are alive.
Let's kill VE? I really can't do the other 5 you want atm. Xcept prplhz but he tends to get misslynched and I think he was really sad last time he got lynched as town.
I am a good guy you know.
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Palmar town cuz meta skynx provided? How the fuck does that work?
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On July 07 2016 04:36 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2016 04:32 Shapelog wrote:On July 07 2016 04:27 Damdred wrote:
Shape who should I look at to give opinions on right now in your opinion?
Btw I think vivax is town for his activity and questioning people I hope we can work together this game
RN, I am about to look at Kush, cuz some of his posts bothered me when I caught up. Overall, the thread is focused around Prp/SL/RB/Wasbai/Va for today's lynch and maybe Vivax. If I was you, in your shoes. Given the fact I wouldn't know anything. I would look at all of those above + anyone you find scummy like always. Or just read the last few pages and give opinions. Well I already have an opinion on vivax which is sort of against my policy tbh. Which of Kush posts bothered you exactly?
Tbh, I want to hear it.
When I was reading, this caught my eye.
On July 06 2016 19:05 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I'll vote sl if I have time to switch my vote
to
On July 06 2016 20:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
how about dcwasabi?
The thing that bugged me with this, is that Kush had both (actually all 3) on his scum list. The only possible thing I could think of, is that SL posted moved him and SL was made town in Kush's mind.
It just feels, off. Idk how to describe it. It is like Kush was fine, but suddenly wasn't for no obv reasoning other then that above. This post might support it, but I am on the fence about it. As, it hard to tell if the read has changed.
@vivax, you are referring to palmar's push on koshi and another person im forgetting?
Overconfident, exaggerated, early game reads are standard Palmar.
The SL push is understandable at least, even if you disagree with it.
You don't like DC for a lynch because he's "new." My problem with that is I don't think new people necessarily get easier to read as the game progresses.
It isn't enough to lynch him, Nor would I really without a answer, just caught my eye.
On July 07 2016 04:36 prplhz wrote:
Sorry for not answering your post Shapelog.
Going to name my assault in X-Com you, and then watch as it gets killed.
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On July 07 2016 04:49 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2016 04:35 Vivax wrote:
Btw here's my usual D1 guess for who's scum. RB and Koshi went to townpile, RB slightly less but he can stay there while the game is "complex", mostly cause every time he answers a question I feel punched in the face and I don't think mafia wants that.
(Palmar), VA, DCW, prplhz.
The jokers are VE and kush. Meaning I'm reserving judgment on them while the above are alive. Let's kill VE? I really can't do the other 5 you want atm. Xcept prplhz but he tends to get misslynched and I think he was really sad last time he got lynched as town. I am a good guy you know.
Nah I'm awful at reading VE and don't want to lynch him while the others are alive.
I'm also awful at reading prplhz actually. Can't count the times I've scumread him as town.
But I'd feel worse MLing VE than MLing prplhz (no offense bro).
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On July 07 2016 04:49 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2016 04:35 Vivax wrote:
Btw here's my usual D1 guess for who's scum. RB and Koshi went to townpile, RB slightly less but he can stay there while the game is "complex", mostly cause every time he answers a question I feel punched in the face and I don't think mafia wants that.
(Palmar), VA, DCW, prplhz.
The jokers are VE and kush. Meaning I'm reserving judgment on them while the above are alive. Let's kill VE? I really can't do the other 5 you want atm. Xcept prplhz but he tends to get misslynched and I think he was really sad last time he got lynched as town. I am a good guy you know.
hahahhaahaha
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On July 07 2016 04:49 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2016 04:35 Vivax wrote:
Btw here's my usual D1 guess for who's scum. RB and Koshi went to townpile, RB slightly less but he can stay there while the game is "complex", mostly cause every time he answers a question I feel punched in the face and I don't think mafia wants that.
(Palmar), VA, DCW, prplhz.
The jokers are VE and kush. Meaning I'm reserving judgment on them while the above are alive. Let's kill VE? I really can't do the other 5 you want atm. Xcept prplhz but he tends to get misslynched and I think he was really sad last time he got lynched as town. I am a good guy you know.
Says while not changing vote IIRC
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But honestly there really isn't a Reason.
So...
Good Guy?
*wink wink*
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I'll also lynch SL if only to find out if I can flak certain people or have to deal with flak for not scumreading him.
Both are better than the uncentainty I'm in now.
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I just voted prplhz.
Let's see if people who get scumread a lot but only voted little tend to flip mafia.
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Reads.
Town
Koshi: rage fit seemed genuine
Palmar: confrontational and stuff
Shapelog: something I may or may not have said earlier. Could be backstabing me after initial whiteknighting but I don't think so.
Would lynch anyone else, will be here for the deadline madness.
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On July 06 2016 19:54 sicklucker wrote:
Vivax its your job tomorrow to make the stupid town not lynch me on day 1. Like how I make the stupid towns not lynch you on day 1. gl
On July 06 2016 20:17 sicklucker wrote:
yes the vote is today. kush your like my only town read. you better not vote me day 1. thats taking out the trash day
23 mins, no post from Vivax in between..
So I suppose SL doesn't TR the guy he asks to save his arse, yet town reads Kush for maybe emotional effect? Seriously, How does SL ask Vivax to protect him, and then Kush is his only TR? And Vobby was soft defending him at that point at well.
Urg, I want to vig shot like 3 people, if not 4.
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