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On June 29 2016 07:17 Tictock wrote:Ok, so assuming for a moment that you are town Damdred. I am pretty sure Jealous is not the last scum, you even gave a decent reason to TR him yourself (something about how he was posting reads as EoD was resolving & Moosy was getting lynched). Jean is an interesting suggestion as with the exception of Chez I think he's contributed the least today and even though I was tunneled on you I noticed his read on me flipped pretty dramatically when Super claimed after multiple times arguing about having a townlean on me. Show nested quote +On June 28 2016 07:05 Jean Valjean wrote:On June 28 2016 06:54 Jealous wrote:On June 28 2016 06:25 GlowingBear wrote:
Confirmed town, impossible to be killed at night.
This is perfect So let me get this clear on paper: you claim Vigi? yes he's claiming vigilante, and superbia is claiming tracker.
Both are believable claims, mostly because ticktock is the scummiest player in the thread and it makes no sense for mafia to fakeclaim right now.I think we just won. . and this is def pushing for mafia's best case from that Show nested quote +On June 28 2016 08:43 Jean Valjean wrote:On June 28 2016 08:41 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2016 06:06 Superbia wrote:TT why'd you visit QT bro?  Either you just fucked up SUPER bad (see what i did there?) as scum... Or this is the worst fakeclaim on this site since December. So you're contesting the claim? Fine. I assume you're also ok with lynching you then Superbia, because either way it's an auto win. The only thing that bugs me in this tinfoil Epic Bus scenario is that Emp threw his vote away along with mine on Tumble. If scum is gunna bus why not get the whole team on board? On the other hand he is in the perfect spot for scum to be sitting, I think Mayor is untraceable/uncheckable and will never be under sus for still being alive as long as BG hasn't flipped, gets an extra vote to influence mislynches, and Jean looks hella towny for having flipped the goon that obv wanted to die... ... I think I may have just talked myself into Yolo/fear lynching Jean.
His no caring really has me going atm and jealous while I see some scum motivation, I see more as Jean.
And one scum throwing away one vote isn't anything unheard of tbh
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Well look, voting for him D1 lead to great results.
Might as well see if the same thing will work today right?
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Where were all of you when I wrote this:
+ Show Spoiler +On June 27 2016 02:26 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 00:08 Jean Valjean wrote:On June 26 2016 23:59 Damdred wrote:
I explained it a little bit previously, if it was just activity I would probably give him another day.
Its mainly that one post describing the qt v art fight as town v town. Its his only contribution and it doesn't make sense to me coming from his position of not knowing art. And honestly art came off a little worse than qt in that exchange.
So not sure why he would think that it just feels like Tmi to me. I actually kind of agree, he was specifically asked that and conjured up an answer that was surprisingly thought out given the fact that everything else in his filter has basically been him excusing himself from playing. Not necessarily the TMI part, but rather just the appearance of it. Maybe the trick just to ask him... Hey Jealous, what do you think of my spat with Artanis? And explain your thoughts on Tictock. I was already typing this out as I was working through the thread, so I will use this as an answer: Having read the past few pages that were largely Jean Vanjean pushing Artanis, playing petty games and platforming for presidency, I have to say that he has left a foul taste in my mouth. While I respect his use of language and mild tone, I have to say that he is trying too hard to push the notion that he is "smart" and that therefore the best choice for mayor. Scum can be smart too, and I think a smart scum would follow along the same lines that Jean is doing: 1. Lay relatively low at first and not draw much suspicion in either direction while the thread is in a tumultuous Day 1 state, Artanis fighting QT, lots of speculation going in every direction, etc. 2. a. Push a target that is already under pressure/suspicion from others using vague meta reads (paraphrasing what Artanis said, "If I had a dollar for every time someone scumread me for playing worse than they expect me to,"). b. Play word/mind games (and perhaps a little bit of fear tactics) to force that target to say things that Jean wants said from another mouth, giving him added external validity. "This is not incorrect, as mafia can never lynch me. My greatest strength in mafia is that I can beat people into submission with arguments and words." - Jean c. Essentially bullying him into voting for him as president. 3. Build a stronger platform for a presidential candidacy than any that has been posted so far, using big words and nice formatting to please the eye and make the reader complacently agree with the validity of his statements, in what could be considered a "last push" because of the timing (12 hours before EoD as opposed to any time prior). I find the fact that he has garnered a fair share of support and relatively little suspicion to be very alarming. Is everyone going for the textbook "he is active and pushing someone, so can't be scum?" I believe that can backfire terribly in a game such as this where that modus operandi would be an effective strategy for Mafia to get into a position of power and make the game much harder for Town to win. There have been four people whose names have been tossed around/who have been voted for/have pushed for presidency, from what I've read so far (I still have to go back to the early pages). In most recent pages, GlowingBear has been making some weak pushes for it, going by the logic of "Why SHOULDN'T I be President?" as opposed to "Here is why I SHOULD be President," which I don't like either. In short, I think that between those people (Superbia, Jean, GB, and one other person I am forgetting at the moment) there must be a scum. It is THE play of the game in this format, and for scum to sit back and allow Town to freely elect Town for both positions would be simply poor play. I find that to be less likely than scum being one of the power candidates right now.
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Imagine if we're actually right and JVJ is the last one.
We elect a mafia mayor, he lynches mafia D1, then we proceed to shoot mafia N1 and lynch the bussing mafia mayor D2.
Best game.
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It's kinda potentially too awesome not to do. I'm struggling real hard not to just yolo go for it, especially given the very genuine emotion I'm getting from Jealous in the frustration of not being heard on his case.
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Fuck it, lets do it.
In the hopes of making this the best game ever.
##Vote: Jean Valijean
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On June 29 2016 07:55 Tictock wrote:
Fuck it, lets do it.
In the hopes of making this the best game ever.
##Vote: Jean Valijean
Alternatively, this could be the worst game ever where we lose from 9v1, starting with lynching one of our strongest players that was unshootable and lynched mafia D1.
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butt fuck it. You have my sword.
##Unvote
##Vote Jean Valjean
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If he ends up flipping town I'm just going to call it a policy lynch to contain his ego.
Then pray it was Kitaman so it breaks his unlynched as town streak and I finally get to sit on the longest-unlynched-as-town-streak throne that I thoroughly deserve! 
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Unless I get lynched afterwards then too. That'd be really unfortunate 
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On June 29 2016 07:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2016 07:55 Tictock wrote:
Fuck it, lets do it.
In the hopes of making this the best game ever.
##Vote: Jean Valijean Alternatively, this could be the worst game ever where we lose from 9v1, starting with lynching one of our strongest players that was unshootable and lynched mafia D1.
In theory, the more time that is spent in indecision, the more insurmountable his 2 vote advantage will be. I'm not fully convinced that he is scum, but if there is ever a time to do this, it would have to be all of us as one. I will see how it plays out over the next 20 hours and think about it. In the meantime...
On June 27 2016 06:18 Jealous wrote:Very nice. I'm glad MoosyDoosy shenanigans failed him in this game. Glad I came around to vote for Jean. + Show Spoiler [Extreme paranoia] +I will have to examine MoosyDoosy vs. Jean for fear of this being a legendary bus.
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On June 29 2016 07:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2016 07:55 Tictock wrote:
Fuck it, lets do it.
In the hopes of making this the best game ever.
##Vote: Jean Valijean Alternatively, this could be the worst most-memorable game ever where we lose from 9v1, starting with lynching one of our strongest players that was unshootable and lynched mafia D1.
People People plz, we can always get back to bickering and killing each other tomorrow.
Today we must focus on the matter at hand, which is ruthlessly overthrowing our elected official who has done nothing but good for us because, lets face it, he was a bit of a dick.
+ Show Spoiler +I was gunna point out that GB will still be our pocket confirmed town until the BG is killed, and that our lynch pool would be smaller tomorrow with a NK, but mafia can hold their shot this game so we can't necessarily get maximum info.
And this isn't THAT crazy, I mean I'm only flipping my read on Damdred kus of 5 words Moosy said to Damdred. We are kinda just assuming Tumble and Skynx are lock town, and this day started out with Super fake claiming Traking me to QT.
I'm pretty sure this is the only logical nonsensically awesome choice.
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The more I think about it this gets crazier and crazier. This is exactly what scum wants if scum is anyone but Jean. But if Jean is scum, then this has to happen now, or soon. Tension is high. Balls of steel?
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On June 29 2016 08:22 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2016 07:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 29 2016 07:55 Tictock wrote:
Fuck it, lets do it.
In the hopes of making this the best game ever.
##Vote: Jean Valijean Alternatively, this could be the worst most-memorable game ever where we lose from 9v1, starting with lynching one of our strongest players that was unshootable and lynched mafia D1. People People plz, we can always get back to bickering and killing each other tomorrow. Today we must focus on the matter at hand, which is ruthlessly overthrowing our elected official who has done nothing but good for us because, lets face it, he was a bit of a dick. + Show Spoiler +I was gunna point out that GB will still be our pocket confirmed town until the BG is killed, and that our lynch pool would be smaller tomorrow with a NK, but mafia can hold their shot this game so we can't necessarily get maximum info.
And this isn't THAT crazy, I mean I'm only flipping my read on Damdred kus of 5 words Moosy said to Damdred. We are kinda just assuming Tumble and Skynx are lock town, and this day started out with Super fake claiming Traking me to QT.
I'm pretty sure this is the only logical nonsensically awesome choice.
+ Show Spoiler +don't tell mafia but if they hold shot we gain a ml even if we ml today
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Yeah I'm not mafia guys.
I'm going to go out on a massive limb, explain nothing and talkt to you tomorrow. I think Chez might be the last mafia.
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Day 2 Votecount
Jean Valjean (3): Tictock, Artanis[Xp], Damdred
Jealous (2): Artanis[Xp], Superbia, Damdred, Tumblewood
Damdred (2): Tictock, Skynx, Tumblewood, Jealous
Tictock (2): Superbia, Artanis[Xp], Skynx, Jean Valjean (x2), Tumblewood, Jealous, Damdred
Not Voting (2): , GlowingBear, Chezinu
Day 2 ends Wednesday, Jun 29 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .
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Interesting.
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On June 27 2016 02:50 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 02:47 emperorchampion wrote:On June 27 2016 02:43 emperorchampion wrote:On June 27 2016 02:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Reminder:
I AM NAMED VT
Vote me for mayor but REMEMBER TO SPREAD YOUR VOTES WITH SOMEONE VERY TOWNIE
Don't just vote me or you'll let Mafia have an easy time to decide the pardonner Whether or not this is true, this is such a good play since you won't be able to be cop read once you are pardoner. Actually has anybody discussed this, other than the fact that it's pretty much un-cc'able? I would feel OK about this if it were any other green / blue role. Ec can be town today. Its a good thought.
On June 27 2016 04:35 Damdred wrote:
My reads aren't off at all the only person I'm reconsidering is super.
I have Tt as scum.
Jealous as a lower null
Super US falling
Ec is a higher null
Not a bad pool tbh I wouldn't lynch ec today at all
Elaborate on this damdred. Why was this enough to give EC a pass?
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I'm going to give a yolo TR to jealous.
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I'm going to await what Jean brings to the table x;
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