EPTOn June 27 2016 01:42 Superbia wrote:
Nice timing EC.
Better bring something good to the table x;
Nice timing EC.
Better bring something good to the table x;
Good time to finish eating and doing other things :D
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
Good time to finish eating and doing other things :D | ||
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emperorchampion
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On June 26 2016 18:20 Superbia wrote: EC is mostly for being on sidelines and not really doing anything. It became clear to me post-newbie-game that he is a something experience mafia/werewolf player. At least in real life. He should know what to do. Ya got me, my main account is "Jean Valjean" :x | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
GB is named VT? I'd rather have him as pardoner than mayor. Super / GB or Super / Jean seems optimal to me, maaaybe GB / Super or GB / Jean. | ||
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emperorchampion
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It looks like now he has a lot of time to spend on this mafia game, whereas his entrance post he was giving a very hands-off look for all of day 1. On June 25 2016 19:54 Jean Valjean wrote: Hello I am unfortunately not going to be able to contribute heavily today. I will do my best to get a chance to read the game and I will probably focus on the first few hours of posting. I am more just popping by to let you guys know I am alive and have no intention of getting replaced or modkilled, despite the fact that my start will be slower than I would have preferred. To me I have two acceptable outcomes this cycle. The preferred outcome is that I actually find something that's worth chasing and put my vote there, but a very reasonable alternative that is probably more likely to happen is that I find someone I strongly believe to be town, and lend my vote to whatever his or hers cause is. I'm looking forward to talking to you all and playing with you. My conclusion at the end of this post: [quote] From his posts so far this is what I have seen: 1) He is admittedly not very involved 2) He has read through Super's and my filter, which he believes are empty but he gives no mention of Moosy's lack of contributions 3) Very defensive posting Overall I'm not thrilled with his responses, and I will be very interested to see the level of his interactions as the game progresses. [\quote] I believe that the three points above can easily be explained by someone who is afk, ie you don't have time to look through the entire game, you just read filter, you've given a reason that you are away and someone leans scum on you for not believing that reason. This in a way makes sense to me. Jean's activity since then I'm not so sure. It seems like he is willing to invest time in the game now, and he has been making posts that are at odds with his opening goals. I would be interested to hear others opinions on this matter though, since he seems to be heavily town read. | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
On June 26 2016 18:36 Tictock wrote: Yea I saw him drop his scumread, but putting QT in his top 4 town now? That's a pretty big swing in thinking. Also think his read on me is mostly OMGUS and he's throwing out weak meta to try and cover it. - scumreading art for changing his read too fast. pls that's town if anything. - stupid misattribution of art's push On June 26 2016 18:51 Tictock wrote: Well I'm gunna take your word about your mafia play with a grain of salt, I think I've only played a game or two with you as town. Eh I call it as I see it, you dropped your read on QT then quoted a post of mine saying you didn't like it. Then you brought up some weak meta about my town game being "interesting" and bam I'm your top scum read (though you seemed more interested questioning Jean). Looks like you're early read got squashed by thread sentiment so you went looking for new people to push. - narrative - narrative - more narrative On June 26 2016 19:21 Tictock wrote: Yea see this just shows you have no real understanding of my meta... And you're wrong, I'm pretty darned interesting. I know... my mom told me. impressively manages to dismiss art's read entirely without a real counter, just "you don't know me." basically I don't see why tt would make these cases as town... they're so far-fetched and only really make sense as a justification rather than a reason. | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
Anyhow, I'm going to shower | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
right now it's jean mayor / gb pardoner actually that's not so bad but there's 0 consolidation. I'd rather see gb mayor / jean pardoner though so ##unvote ##vote gb woo. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5188 Posts
Jean Valjean (3): Artanis[Xp], Jean Valjean, Tumblewood GlowingBear (2):Superbia, GlowingBear Artanis[Xp] (1): Chezinu, Jealous (1): Jealous Skynx (1): Skynx Tumblewood (1): Tictock QuickTwist (0): Superbia (0): Not Voting (4): emperorchampion, Damdred, MoosyDoosy, QuickTwist As of now, Jean Valjean will become Mayor and GlowingBear will become Pardoner! Day 1 ends Sunday, Jun 26 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . TL countdown synchronizes with your device local time and not with the TL server time. It might be inaccurate. | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
also jean and art lay off I'm 90% sure that's a TvT argument you've got going | ||
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Damdred
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Skynx
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Damdred
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Tumblewood
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On June 27 2016 02:12 Damdred wrote: Where did I give ec a pass I've been,trying to decide if he's scum or been for awhile I didn't,mind his early posts. And these later ones aren't horrid he's at least thinking. idk somewhere I remember you saying you want to ignore moosy and ec for d1. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On June 25 2016 12:23 Damdred wrote: It's interesting only people I'd be happy lynching into today Tt, sk, Jin, jealous Emperor im not sure of yet kinda want to put him out of conversation. But Im not sure why I don't buy the town reads on sk it just doesn't feel or look right to me yet. Gen I guess I did give him a halfway day pass | ||
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Damdred
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But I probably would retract it but he's had some decent posts and went after a hard target so idk if I would lynch today | ||
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QuickTwist
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Prolly won't directly quote anything but will keep in mind what I come across. | ||
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Jealous
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On June 27 2016 00:08 Jean Valjean wrote: I actually kind of agree, he was specifically asked that and conjured up an answer that was surprisingly thought out given the fact that everything else in his filter has basically been him excusing himself from playing. Not necessarily the TMI part, but rather just the appearance of it. Maybe the trick just to ask him... Hey Jealous, what do you think of my spat with Artanis? And explain your thoughts on Tictock. I was already typing this out as I was working through the thread, so I will use this as an answer: Having read the past few pages that were largely Jean Vanjean pushing Artanis, playing petty games and platforming for presidency, I have to say that he has left a foul taste in my mouth. While I respect his use of language and mild tone, I have to say that he is trying too hard to push the notion that he is "smart" and that therefore the best choice for mayor. Scum can be smart too, and I think a smart scum would follow along the same lines that Jean is doing: 1. Lay relatively low at first and not draw much suspicion in either direction while the thread is in a tumultuous Day 1 state, Artanis fighting QT, lots of speculation going in every direction, etc. 2. a. Push a target that is already under pressure/suspicion from others using vague meta reads (paraphrasing what Artanis said, "If I had a dollar for every time someone scumread me for playing worse than they expect me to,"). b. Play word/mind games (and perhaps a little bit of fear tactics) to force that target to say things that Jean wants said from another mouth, giving him added external validity. "This is not incorrect, as mafia can never lynch me. My greatest strength in mafia is that I can beat people into submission with arguments and words." - Jean c. Essentially bullying him into voting for him as president. 3. Build a stronger platform for a presidential candidacy than any that has been posted so far, using big words and nice formatting to please the eye and make the reader complacently agree with the validity of his statements, in what could be considered a "last push" because of the timing (12 hours before EoD as opposed to any time prior). I find the fact that he has garnered a fair share of support and relatively little suspicion to be very alarming. Is everyone going for the textbook "he is active and pushing someone, so can't be scum?" I believe that can backfire terribly in a game such as this where that modus operandi would be an effective strategy for Mafia to get into a position of power and make the game much harder for Town to win. There have been four people whose names have been tossed around/who have been voted for/have pushed for presidency, from what I've read so far (I still have to go back to the early pages). In most recent pages, GlowingBear has been making some weak pushes for it, going by the logic of "Why SHOULDN'T I be President?" as opposed to "Here is why I SHOULD be President," which I don't like either. In short, I think that between those people (Superbia, Jean, GB, and one other person I am forgetting at the moment) there must be a scum. It is THE play of the game in this format, and for scum to sit back and allow Town to freely elect Town for both positions would be simply poor play. I find that to be less likely than scum being one of the power candidates right now. | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
I am clearly voting gb right now | ||
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Jealous
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Jean Valjean
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On June 27 2016 02:04 Tumblewood wrote: ok holy shit tt is scum. - scumreading art for changing his read too fast. pls that's town if anything. - stupid misattribution of art's push - narrative - narrative - more narrative impressively manages to dismiss art's read entirely without a real counter, just "you don't know me." basically I don't see why tt would make these cases as town... they're so far-fetched and only really make sense as a justification rather than a reason. This is actually not a bad summary. I will revisit my own interpretation of Ticktock, until then he should know that he is on notice to be lynched if his posting doesn't improve greatly in the next few hours. | ||
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