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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 26 2016 10:45 GMT
#741
Art who is jean? You seem to have a fair idea now.
Minimal effort.
Jean Valjean
Profile Joined April 2015
France216 Posts
June 26 2016 10:46 GMT
#742
On June 26 2016 19:42 Superbia wrote:
TT/Jean/Art, do any of you feel different about each other?

TT/Jean, how do you feel about the other?

I have not read up on TT, it's one of the things I have planned for further analysis.

I remain highly suspicious of Artanis, and almost everything he does is just adding to it. The latest problem I have is how easily he's letting me wipe the floor with him on the debate stage, he is one of the stronger players on TL Mafia and he doesn't stand a chance.

I think it's healthy for me to take a step back from him for a while and come back with a clear head to make sure I'm not just confirmation biasing myself into his lynch, but I think my feelings on him are very clearly explained in my recent posts.
In His name my task has just begun, I will see it done!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 26 2016 10:46 GMT
#743
On June 26 2016 19:45 Superbia wrote:
Art who is jean? You seem to have a fair idea now.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was Supersoft given I recall him signing up for a game then /out'ing a little bit ago and I recall him having an ego around this size without the ability to match, all seeming fairly familiar.

If it's actually Slam I'll be really really disappointed in him
Jean Valjean
Profile Joined April 2015
France216 Posts
June 26 2016 10:48 GMT
#744
On June 26 2016 19:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 19:41 Jean Valjean wrote:
On June 26 2016 19:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 19:23 Jean Valjean wrote:
On June 26 2016 19:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 19:15 Jean Valjean wrote:
On June 26 2016 19:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I've never seen you truly try as mafia, Slam. I've seen you truly try as town and you've had incredible games there. I don't see why not hard townreading you would be proving I'm scum, that's a very loaded statement.

You don't know whether or not my alternate identity is Slam. Applying some meta that might be completely wrong is dumb.

The sentence is loaded because it should be. The way I've approached pressuring you is not something many players on this site are capable of doing as mafia. To think I'm mafia, one or two things kinda have to be true.

1) you must think I am excellent at playing scum
2) you must not have noticed the kind of pressure being put on you is not something normal or off-hand

The simple conclusion to my alignment, assuming I'm not some scum-god, is that I must be town because there's almost no one capable of doing what I have been doing as mafia.

So yes, the statement is loaded, because it is intended to be.

It's not that hard to kick a puppy that's already being kicked by a few others. Plus, knowing I'm town means I know you're tunneling on town, which has plenty of mafia reasoning behind it. The fact that you're trying so hard to use it as leverage to get townread also diminishes its worth as clearly you're very aware of what you're doing.

I am perfectly aware of what I am doing Artanis, I am very smart.

I am also perceptive enough to undestand why what you're doing right now is not logical. For example, when Skynx pushed you with weaker and less coherent reasons, and put less force behind the push than I am doing now, you simply wrote him off as town for the very fact that he wrote a case on you.

For some reason I'm not getting the same treatment. If anything, my points are better thought out and more valid than Skynx', so why am I not getting the same treatment?

Objectively, I have, in this conversation and the previous one, put you on the defense. How many scum players on TL can put you on defense when you're town? I understand other players do not have to townread me, they're not you. But you, specifically, should really be changing your mind about my alignment right now.

Because Skynx is a newbie and you're, as you put it, very smart, and probably have a lot of experience in playing mafia. I use different bars for different players.


I do like that I managed to put you in a corner where your options were

a) call me awesome
b) call yourself mafia

Anyway, I think I'll leave you for now, but that doesn't mean you're out of danger. You are currently the lynch target for my mayoral campaign, and will remain so. There's two reasons I'm not going to bother with you for a while, the first one is that I need to read up on other players to better flesh out my platform and vision for this game, and secondly it's just mean to run up the score when you're so thoroughly trouncing your opponent.

I will probably spite lynch you if you keep this up btw. Your ego's choking out the game.


"The zebra bravely announces he'll eat the lion".

Good luck Artanis.
In His name my task has just begun, I will see it done!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 26 2016 10:50 GMT
#745
Yeah 100% lynching Jean if I become mayor.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 26 2016 10:55 GMT
#746
What about TT art?
Minimal effort.
Jean Valjean
Profile Joined April 2015
France216 Posts
June 26 2016 10:57 GMT
#747
On June 26 2016 19:42 Superbia wrote:
TT/Jean/Art, do any of you feel different about each other?

TT/Jean, how do you feel about the other?

An initial quick read of his filter (without looking into posts for context) suggests that tonally he sounds like a townie. I like his lightly explained, yet reasonable attacks on Damdred and Artanis.

I would like Ticktock to actually contribute in a longer form because I know he is a very capable scumhunter. His further insight might both help us reveal information about the game, and about his own alignment.

Very tentatively I'll say that I think he's town for now.
In His name my task has just begun, I will see it done!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 26 2016 10:58 GMT
#748
On June 26 2016 19:55 Superbia wrote:
What about TT art?

Still my strongest scumread. Nothing in our exchange made me really reconsider. Asking about who I'd vote for mayor feels like a useless question too, not sure what he was planning on getting out of that when I had already posted my reads.
Jean Valjean
Profile Joined April 2015
France216 Posts
June 26 2016 10:59 GMT
#749
It looks like we're yet again at odds Artanis!
In His name my task has just begun, I will see it done!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 26 2016 11:01 GMT
#750
On June 26 2016 19:59 Jean Valjean wrote:
It looks like we're yet again at odds Artanis!

Let's see who had the better reads postgame.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 26 2016 11:01 GMT
#751
On June 26 2016 19:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 19:55 Superbia wrote:
What about TT art?

Still my strongest scumread. Nothing in our exchange made me really reconsider. Asking about who I'd vote for mayor feels like a useless question too, not sure what he was planning on getting out of that when I had already posted my reads.


Do you feel like scum are wagoning you right now? Both TT and Jean now think you are scum. Are they both mafia aligning?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 26 2016 11:03 GMT
#752
I also think the question "who would you vote for president" is kind of relevant, art. You're not going to be president with so much doubt on you.
Minimal effort.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 26 2016 11:04 GMT
#753
On June 26 2016 20:01 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 19:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 19:55 Superbia wrote:
What about TT art?

Still my strongest scumread. Nothing in our exchange made me really reconsider. Asking about who I'd vote for mayor feels like a useless question too, not sure what he was planning on getting out of that when I had already posted my reads.


Do you feel like scum are wagoning you right now? Both TT and Jean now think you are scum. Are they both mafia aligning?

I think the wagon was started by town and there's probably one or two scum on there. I'm mildly leaning town on Jean.
Still lynching him.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 26 2016 11:06 GMT
#754
Wasn't TT the first to call you scum? Or one of the first?
Minimal effort.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 26 2016 11:06 GMT
#755
On June 26 2016 20:03 Superbia wrote:
I also think the question "who would you vote for president" is kind of relevant, art. You're not going to be president with so much doubt on you.

Eh, you seem to be certain on me being town. Damdred is too afaik and Chez has voted me. That's a start of 4. Tumble also seems to be coming around to me so we'll see.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 26 2016 11:08 GMT
#756
On June 26 2016 20:06 Superbia wrote:
Wasn't TT the first to call you scum? Or one of the first?

I think Tumble was actually and QT joined him during the pressuring.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 26 2016 11:08 GMT
#757
On June 26 2016 20:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 20:03 Superbia wrote:
I also think the question "who would you vote for president" is kind of relevant, art. You're not going to be president with so much doubt on you.

Eh, you seem to be certain on me being town. Damdred is too afaik and Chez has voted me. That's a start of 4. Tumble also seems to be coming around to me so we'll see.


I'm not voting you. x;
Minimal effort.
Jean Valjean
Profile Joined April 2015
France216 Posts
June 26 2016 11:08 GMT
#758
On June 26 2016 20:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 20:01 Superbia wrote:
On June 26 2016 19:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 19:55 Superbia wrote:
What about TT art?

Still my strongest scumread. Nothing in our exchange made me really reconsider. Asking about who I'd vote for mayor feels like a useless question too, not sure what he was planning on getting out of that when I had already posted my reads.


Do you feel like scum are wagoning you right now? Both TT and Jean now think you are scum. Are they both mafia aligning?

I think the wagon was started by town and there's probably one or two scum on there. I'm mildly leaning town on Jean.
Still lynching him.

This begs two questions.

1) Who is on the wagon?
2) Who is the townie who started the wagon?

And those two should really help us figure out the game from your perspective.
In His name my task has just begun, I will see it done!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 26 2016 11:09 GMT
#759
On June 26 2016 20:08 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 20:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 20:03 Superbia wrote:
I also think the question "who would you vote for president" is kind of relevant, art. You're not going to be president with so much doubt on you.

Eh, you seem to be certain on me being town. Damdred is too afaik and Chez has voted me. That's a start of 4. Tumble also seems to be coming around to me so we'll see.


I'm not voting you. x;

Why not? You called me super town
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 26 2016 11:10 GMT
#760
On June 26 2016 20:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 20:08 Superbia wrote:
On June 26 2016 20:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 20:03 Superbia wrote:
I also think the question "who would you vote for president" is kind of relevant, art. You're not going to be president with so much doubt on you.

Eh, you seem to be certain on me being town. Damdred is too afaik and Chez has voted me. That's a start of 4. Tumble also seems to be coming around to me so we'll see.


I'm not voting you. x;

Why not? You called me super town


There are towns that doubt you, which makes me question my read to a degree. Also I would make a way better president.
Minimal effort.
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