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Yeah that was a good post by superbia
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ok now I focus on ec
On June 26 2016 12:22 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 12:10 GlowingBear wrote:On June 26 2016 12:07 emperorchampion wrote:On June 26 2016 11:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 26 2016 11:48 emperorchampion wrote:On June 26 2016 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:On June 26 2016 11:14 emperorchampion wrote:On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you. I'm saying that his style of play is not well suited to leadership. Do you have a better option? At the moment I think that tumble or super are better. Are you comfortable with calling them almost-confirmed town? If so, what makes you think they're town? Also, what kind of approach do you think they have which makes them suitable to be president? No, I don't think I'm comfortable calling them almost-confirmed town at this point. But I put them in a similar boat with QT. I think they have a more stable, considering play style, whereas I find QT more erratic. . So, you're saying that QT, Tumble and Superbia are basically at the same level of towniness, is that right? I'd like you to specify to me what exactly made you think they are town. That's quite the order! I don't think I have time to make it exact so this synopsis will have to suffice: Super: I see a very similar style of game play to what I saw last game when he was town. I think that his posts have been pretty on point. Tumble: I think that he has been open with his thoughts, and I like the direction that he has been giving to the game so far. Many of his thoughts I find are echoing mine. QT: I find that his posts have been very reminiscent of the last game. I think that he has shown consideration of the game so far.
these reads are not very thought out. you could press the button on generictownreadgenerator.com a few times and get the same results.
also his response to gb's questioning is pretty meh, just one step above picking a random post from super's filter.
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On June 26 2016 13:01 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 12:54 GlowingBear wrote:On June 26 2016 12:44 Tumblewood wrote:
gb, if you had straight null on someone, that's 10/13 = about 77% town. choosing between 77% town who is good and 100% town who is not, 77% of the time the first guy is the better play.
consider someone who you read town. move it up to 85% or 90% town. nearly every time, putting them in mayor is the correct play. I have a 90% read on super so yeah easy choice. I'd rather have 100% certainty than risking a 77% certainty. Why do you have 90% on Superbia? a couple posts I liked. first is this one: Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 07:45 Superbia wrote:
Oh and also this president thing is kinda cute and all but I'm going to take the free townie points and say we should drop it and play a normal game for now. We can spend the second part of the day deciding how we want to orchestrate the president thing. I have a few thoughts surrounding it but need to flesh them out. a) easier for mafia to discuss mechanics than reads b) last part implies he actually cares about putting town on the right track (prefers to flesh out his thoughts vs. spitting them out when he has them) Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 21:22 Superbia wrote:
That list is probably actually really really good rare that mafia actually takes pride in their reads Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 22:27 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 22:21 Tictock wrote:On June 25 2016 21:28 Superbia wrote:
TT lend me your thoughts Almost caughtup. I'd like to know where you are going with Moosy and Jealous. Moosy's entrance feels too much like "hey guys, I'm claiming MAFIA, like I did last game I was TOWN". Feels too fake. I would expect town moosy to actually switch it up instead of doing nearly the same thing as last game. smart post. isn't that the gold standard for reading superbia? also feeeels
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a) Discussing that we shouldn't be discussing mechanics and doing nothing else is still a way to discuss mechanics
b) Which is the right track? We can flesh out reads while still deciding the mayor. Taking this as a normal game ISN'T the right way because the Mayor role plays a big part on how this game will unfold.
This post can come from either alignments. I don't see it as alignment indicative.
2) That can be easily fakeable, but I understand where you're coming from.
3) I don't think that post from Superbia was good. Moosy claims Mafia almost every game. Why would Superbia expect that from Moosy? Is there a reason why town Moosy would NOT claim mafia in this game, or that is just an assumption/a paranoia that Moosy would exploit this as Mafia and NEVER do that as town again?
To me, that's just an assumption. There is no reasonable grounds to Superbia's assumption. That's actually a very flimsy way to throw suspicions at someone.
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Understand that I'm throwing my thoughts about how I don't think those posts makes Superbia town not because I am scumreading Superbia at the moment (I'm not, I have it at the scummy part of null, but still null), but because I find important to discuss how towny people are this day1.
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On June 26 2016 13:33 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 13:01 Tumblewood wrote:On June 26 2016 12:54 GlowingBear wrote:On June 26 2016 12:44 Tumblewood wrote:
gb, if you had straight null on someone, that's 10/13 = about 77% town. choosing between 77% town who is good and 100% town who is not, 77% of the time the first guy is the better play.
consider someone who you read town. move it up to 85% or 90% town. nearly every time, putting them in mayor is the correct play. I have a 90% read on super so yeah easy choice. I'd rather have 100% certainty than risking a 77% certainty. Why do you have 90% on Superbia? a couple posts I liked. first is this one: On June 25 2016 07:45 Superbia wrote:
Oh and also this president thing is kinda cute and all but I'm going to take the free townie points and say we should drop it and play a normal game for now. We can spend the second part of the day deciding how we want to orchestrate the president thing. I have a few thoughts surrounding it but need to flesh them out. a) easier for mafia to discuss mechanics than reads b) last part implies he actually cares about putting town on the right track (prefers to flesh out his thoughts vs. spitting them out when he has them) On June 25 2016 21:22 Superbia wrote:
That list is probably actually really really good rare that mafia actually takes pride in their reads On June 25 2016 22:27 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 22:21 Tictock wrote:On June 25 2016 21:28 Superbia wrote:
TT lend me your thoughts Almost caughtup. I'd like to know where you are going with Moosy and Jealous. Moosy's entrance feels too much like "hey guys, I'm claiming MAFIA, like I did last game I was TOWN". Feels too fake. I would expect town moosy to actually switch it up instead of doing nearly the same thing as last game. smart post. isn't that the gold standard for reading superbia? also feeeels 1) a) Discussing that we shouldn't be discussing mechanics and doing nothing else is still a way to discuss mechanics b) Which is the right track? We can flesh out reads while still deciding the mayor. Taking this as a normal game ISN'T the right way because the Mayor role plays a big part on how this game will unfold. This post can come from either alignments. I don't see it as alignment indicative. 2) That can be easily fakeable, but I understand where you're coming from. 3) I don't think that post from Superbia was good. Moosy claims Mafia almost every game. Why would Superbia expect that from Moosy? Is there a reason why town Moosy would NOT claim mafia in this game, or that is just an assumption/a paranoia that Moosy would exploit this as Mafia and NEVER do that as town again? To me, that's just an assumption. There is no reasonable grounds to Superbia's assumption. That's actually a very flimsy way to throw suspicions at someone.
this is a bad post because it's defending me. gb 98% mafia nice pocket play 10/10
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but tbh I'm wondering if I've made it too obvious that I'm mafia this game with my lack of attempting to actually throw myself in the line of fire which shows i'm trying to survive which is a mafia trait for me.
I'm also wondering why claiming mafia in the way i did makes me mafia because it seems forced. That would be the opposite way to read it. You would say i claimed mafia in that way BECAUSE i got the role and am excited about it. Especially since i love playing mafia which superbia should def know since he was in the game where i double bused my teammates.
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like legit if i roll mafia i would come into thread screaming about it because i'm happy. i would not roll mafia and scream about it in thread because i was trying to force my d1 meta.
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On June 26 2016 13:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 13:33 GlowingBear wrote:On June 26 2016 13:01 Tumblewood wrote:On June 26 2016 12:54 GlowingBear wrote:On June 26 2016 12:44 Tumblewood wrote:
gb, if you had straight null on someone, that's 10/13 = about 77% town. choosing between 77% town who is good and 100% town who is not, 77% of the time the first guy is the better play.
consider someone who you read town. move it up to 85% or 90% town. nearly every time, putting them in mayor is the correct play. I have a 90% read on super so yeah easy choice. I'd rather have 100% certainty than risking a 77% certainty. Why do you have 90% on Superbia? a couple posts I liked. first is this one: On June 25 2016 07:45 Superbia wrote:
Oh and also this president thing is kinda cute and all but I'm going to take the free townie points and say we should drop it and play a normal game for now. We can spend the second part of the day deciding how we want to orchestrate the president thing. I have a few thoughts surrounding it but need to flesh them out. a) easier for mafia to discuss mechanics than reads b) last part implies he actually cares about putting town on the right track (prefers to flesh out his thoughts vs. spitting them out when he has them) On June 25 2016 21:22 Superbia wrote:
That list is probably actually really really good rare that mafia actually takes pride in their reads On June 25 2016 22:27 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 22:21 Tictock wrote:On June 25 2016 21:28 Superbia wrote:
TT lend me your thoughts Almost caughtup. I'd like to know where you are going with Moosy and Jealous. Moosy's entrance feels too much like "hey guys, I'm claiming MAFIA, like I did last game I was TOWN". Feels too fake. I would expect town moosy to actually switch it up instead of doing nearly the same thing as last game. smart post. isn't that the gold standard for reading superbia? also feeeels 1) a) Discussing that we shouldn't be discussing mechanics and doing nothing else is still a way to discuss mechanics b) Which is the right track? We can flesh out reads while still deciding the mayor. Taking this as a normal game ISN'T the right way because the Mayor role plays a big part on how this game will unfold. This post can come from either alignments. I don't see it as alignment indicative. 2) That can be easily fakeable, but I understand where you're coming from. 3) I don't think that post from Superbia was good. Moosy claims Mafia almost every game. Why would Superbia expect that from Moosy? Is there a reason why town Moosy would NOT claim mafia in this game, or that is just an assumption/a paranoia that Moosy would exploit this as Mafia and NEVER do that as town again? To me, that's just an assumption. There is no reasonable grounds to Superbia's assumption. That's actually a very flimsy way to throw suspicions at someone. this is a bad post because it's defending me. gb 98% mafia nice pocket play 10/10
I'm not defending you, I'm arguing that you could be coming from both alignments and that makes Superbia's post not really good.
In the other hand, I have a gut feeling that you're town anyway, so whatever.
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Humm I think I've decided I want Tumble to be the mayor.
Dude is very obviously town and has a solid head on his shoulders.
##Vote: Tumblewood
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Morning friends. Gonna be reading a bit while watching some vods.
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On June 25 2016 09:19 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 25 2016 09:05 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 25 2016 08:51 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not? On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:On June 25 2016 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 25 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:
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Awesome joke, 10/10 The puns are getting unbearable already. 5/7, keep growling ftfy This actually makes me think you're mafia. "Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting" *joins in on the bullshitting* Not buying it. Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK. So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why? On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
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Who'd you lynch? Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke? No? Maybe he had an idea or direction. I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something? Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting. On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
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No? Maybe he had an idea or direction. I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something? Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting. I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all. You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so. I believe there's a good chance you're mafia. If I am serious and no one else is being serious, I gain literally nothing out of taking the game seriously at this point. So while, yes I would definitely prefer to take the game seriously, I am pretty much left out of the game if I continue to be serious while everyone else dicks around. I generally am not the joking type unless I do it to make a point. But tbh, I don't care if I "don't not strike you as a joking player" because you haven't played a single game with me. So basically your argument is based off meta that you don't have of me. And I can say why is it Scummy for me to joke when everyone else is doing it? What if I just gave up trying to be serious for the time being since it was basically no use? You are using a Scum narrative of me without considering the other side of the coin that I could be Town just trying to join in with the jokes as a player new to this site. I said I don't really know this sites meta (don't know where) and if I start joking along with you guys you are going to Scum read me for that? WTF? How can I even play here if I can't be serious and I can joke either? I wouldn't be surprised if you used the piss poor argument that I am being serious now so that means I am mafia. My read on you not being a joking player is based on you literally saying it multiple times in the thread. There's no word-twisting going on there, nor will I scumread you for "suddenly taking it seriously". The scumread is based on you appearing pissed that no one's being serious, followed instantaneously after by a pun. The point I'm trying to make is that if you were _actually_ pissed that people weren't being serious, you wouldn't join in on the jokes afterwards. Pissed/annoyed people tend not to do that. The fact that you did suggests you're actually quite content with how things are going. You are assuming I can't change my mind very quickly, which again is based on your assumption of how I play. The truth is you have no fucking clue what my reasoning is, which, let me tell you, is something I have heard many many times, most of which has ended up with people being suspicious of me for people not understanding my reasoning. I can and do change my mind at the drop of a hat.. you are assuming that I am a normal rational human being that acts logically more often than not. So while that argument works on most people, it is just wrong in my case. I know I am going to take heat for saying all this, and it might end up with my lynch day 1 because people are so wrapped up in their assumptions in thinking I play X way as Town. Its really fucking annoying when people make false assumption on the way I play this game when it ends in my lynch because people don't fucking understand me. All I ask is that you ask me questions about how I play and if I can't get you to see that I might be a little different in my perspective on how I play, then its on me.
Rereading I actually really don't like this post. Very very angry that Artanis is pushing him (while he is even being townread and defended by others). For what reason?
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Compare this to the newbie game where he's being pushed by loads and he doesn't display this sort of animosity.
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He goes back into 'normal' form afterwards. Still, off-putting response tbh. Kinda drops him down on my official townie list™
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QT can you elaborate on that post when you read this? Why were you so angry?
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Haha jean = slam? Svengali?
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I'm super happy with my townread on artanis btw
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On June 26 2016 11:47 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Absolutely 100% confirmed town
Chezinu
Town
Damdred
Skynx
Tumblewood
Quicktwist
Townish
Subparbia
-power gap-
Emperorarechampion
Null
GlowingBear
Jealous
MoosyDoosy
Mildly leaning mafia
Jean Valjean
Lean mafia
Ticktock Lol, total 180 on QT. Now I'm your main scumread kus I called you and Damdred boring. Good shit.
TT. srsly. Did you not read the thread at all? x: I barely skimmed before and I knew art 180d on QT like 20hrs before he made that list. Are you not paying any attention to your scumreads?
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A quick few notes about how I feel about damdred btw:
I think damdred could be scum, but not for the reasons that have been brought up (iirc). I think his reads have been sort of relaxed and I can see them coming from a town perspective. I do want to see some reasons behind them. Especially the two I asked at the start of the game.
Damdred's most scummy play this game has been his chicanery regarding presidency. He started the game off with the whole "I don't want to be president but I want to support a town president" or something along those lines. I think this is actually sort of scummy. I think as town you want to be the president, especially if you believe in your own ability. Moreover, it felt like he did want the presidency from the very start. His last page of his filter also has him pushing more and more towards getting the presidency.
Damdred, can you explain? Did you really not want presidency? If so, what has changed?
Moreover, can you elaborate on your early reads a little? Why did you conclude artanis vs qt was TvT that quickly?
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Oh yeah, jean and EC both take a dive in my circles. There are some more mental ups and down but those are tentative depending on questions answered.
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