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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 26 2016 03:22 GMT
#641
On June 26 2016 12:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 12:07 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:48 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:14 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.


I'm saying that his style of play is not well suited to leadership.


Do you have a better option?


At the moment I think that tumble or super are better.


Are you comfortable with calling them almost-confirmed town? If so, what makes you think they're town?
Also, what kind of approach do you think they have which makes them suitable to be president?


No, I don't think I'm comfortable calling them almost-confirmed town at this point. But I put them in a similar boat with QT. I think they have a more stable, considering play style, whereas I find QT more erratic.
.

So, you're saying that QT, Tumble and Superbia are basically at the same level of towniness, is that right?

I'd like you to specify to me what exactly made you think they are town.


That's quite the order! I don't think I have time to make it exact so this synopsis will have to suffice:

Super: I see a very similar style of game play to what I saw last game when he was town. I think that his posts have been pretty on point.

Tumble: I think that he has been open with his thoughts, and I like the direction that he has been giving to the game so far. Many of his thoughts I find are echoing mine.

QT: I find that his posts have been very reminiscent of the last game. I think that he has shown consideration of the game so far.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 26 2016 03:24 GMT
#642
On June 26 2016 12:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 12:08 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Chez because he has a more confusing playstyle


You think that's a good thing ? XD

of course. if chezinu is the mayor, we'd have no idea who he'd kill which means mafia wouldn't be able to predict the death and work around it or plan anything beforehand.


But mayor only chooses the kill the first night...
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 26 2016 03:25 GMT
#643
On June 26 2016 12:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@emperorchampion, what do you think of Artanis?


Have to read up on this guy, null atm
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2016 03:27 GMT
#644
On June 26 2016 12:18 Tumblewood wrote:
hell, it plays right into mafia's hand to put someone up for mayor who's bad at scumhunting. it's just as bad to have mafia lynching townies as town lynching townies, only mafia doesn't come under suspicion when town lynches townies.


It definitely isn't.

Remember that Mayor decides day1 lynch and have double votes throughout the whole game. Imagine this catastrophe when we reach LYLO, for example. Double votes in mafia's hand may antecipate town loss. Minus 1 day before LYLO.

Now imagine if it's a townie in the other hand.

It really doesn't matter, guys. We simply have to elect the towniest.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2016 03:34 GMT
#645
On June 26 2016 12:22 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 12:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:07 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:48 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:14 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.


I'm saying that his style of play is not well suited to leadership.


Do you have a better option?


At the moment I think that tumble or super are better.


Are you comfortable with calling them almost-confirmed town? If so, what makes you think they're town?
Also, what kind of approach do you think they have which makes them suitable to be president?


No, I don't think I'm comfortable calling them almost-confirmed town at this point. But I put them in a similar boat with QT. I think they have a more stable, considering play style, whereas I find QT more erratic.
.

So, you're saying that QT, Tumble and Superbia are basically at the same level of towniness, is that right?

I'd like you to specify to me what exactly made you think they are town.


That's quite the order! I don't think I have time to make it exact so this synopsis will have to suffice:

Super: I see a very similar style of game play to what I saw last game when he was town. I think that his posts have been pretty on point.

Tumble: I think that he has been open with his thoughts, and I like the direction that he has been giving to the game so far. Many of his thoughts I find are echoing mine.

QT: I find that his posts have been very reminiscent of the last game. I think that he has shown consideration of the game so far.


I have no problem with your Tumble and QT reads, but I don't understand what you like on Superbia. I went to his filter and I saw a lot of questions with no follow-up to them. Also, I saw him town leaning on Jean Valjean when he had like just 1 post that was null at best. I don't really understand how his posts have been on point.

Also, do you have any idea how Superbia's scum meta is? Because although he might be playing a similar game to his last one, it doesn't necessarily mean he is town if his scum meta is pretty much the same as his mafia meta.
I'm adorable.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 26 2016 03:34 GMT
#646
On June 26 2016 12:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 12:18 Tumblewood wrote:
hell, it plays right into mafia's hand to put someone up for mayor who's bad at scumhunting. it's just as bad to have mafia lynching townies as town lynching townies, only mafia doesn't come under suspicion when town lynches townies.


It definitely isn't.

Remember that Mayor decides day1 lynch and have double votes throughout the whole game. Imagine this catastrophe when we reach LYLO, for example. Double votes in mafia's hand may antecipate town loss. Minus 1 day before LYLO.

Now imagine if it's a townie in the other hand.

It really doesn't matter, guys. We simply have to elect the towniest.

Basically this. The only big danger is if QT is swayed by Mafia.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 26 2016 03:35 GMT
#647
Also I had no idea mayor only decides the kill for the first night rip
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2016 03:37 GMT
#648
On June 26 2016 12:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 12:22 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:07 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:48 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:14 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.


I'm saying that his style of play is not well suited to leadership.


Do you have a better option?


At the moment I think that tumble or super are better.


Are you comfortable with calling them almost-confirmed town? If so, what makes you think they're town?
Also, what kind of approach do you think they have which makes them suitable to be president?


No, I don't think I'm comfortable calling them almost-confirmed town at this point. But I put them in a similar boat with QT. I think they have a more stable, considering play style, whereas I find QT more erratic.
.

So, you're saying that QT, Tumble and Superbia are basically at the same level of towniness, is that right?

I'd like you to specify to me what exactly made you think they are town.


That's quite the order! I don't think I have time to make it exact so this synopsis will have to suffice:

Super: I see a very similar style of game play to what I saw last game when he was town. I think that his posts have been pretty on point.

Tumble: I think that he has been open with his thoughts, and I like the direction that he has been giving to the game so far. Many of his thoughts I find are echoing mine.

QT: I find that his posts have been very reminiscent of the last game. I think that he has shown consideration of the game so far.


I have no problem with your Tumble and QT reads, but I don't understand what you like on Superbia. I went to his filter and I saw a lot of questions with no follow-up to them. Also, I saw him town leaning on Jean Valjean when he had like just 1 post that was null at best. I don't really understand how his posts have been on point.

Also, do you have any idea how Superbia's scum meta is? Because although he might be playing a similar game to his last one, it doesn't necessarily mean he is town if his scum meta is pretty much the same as his mafia meta.


Btw can you quote a post where you think he was "on point"?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 26 2016 03:39 GMT
#649
I'll have to think on it, but my gut says that the "towniest" person should be the pardonner, since this is the role we really can't give to maf.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 26 2016 03:43 GMT
#650
On June 26 2016 12:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 12:22 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:07 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:48 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:14 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.


I'm saying that his style of play is not well suited to leadership.


Do you have a better option?


At the moment I think that tumble or super are better.


Are you comfortable with calling them almost-confirmed town? If so, what makes you think they're town?
Also, what kind of approach do you think they have which makes them suitable to be president?


No, I don't think I'm comfortable calling them almost-confirmed town at this point. But I put them in a similar boat with QT. I think they have a more stable, considering play style, whereas I find QT more erratic.
.

So, you're saying that QT, Tumble and Superbia are basically at the same level of towniness, is that right?

I'd like you to specify to me what exactly made you think they are town.


That's quite the order! I don't think I have time to make it exact so this synopsis will have to suffice:

Super: I see a very similar style of game play to what I saw last game when he was town. I think that his posts have been pretty on point.

Tumble: I think that he has been open with his thoughts, and I like the direction that he has been giving to the game so far. Many of his thoughts I find are echoing mine.

QT: I find that his posts have been very reminiscent of the last game. I think that he has shown consideration of the game so far.


I have no problem with your Tumble and QT reads, but I don't understand what you like on Superbia. I went to his filter and I saw a lot of questions with no follow-up to them. Also, I saw him town leaning on Jean Valjean when he had like just 1 post that was null at best. I don't really understand how his posts have been on point.

Also, do you have any idea how Superbia's scum meta is? Because although he might be playing a similar game to his last one, it doesn't necessarily mean he is town if his scum meta is pretty much the same as his mafia meta.


How do you not find fault with my QT read, but then with my Super read?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 26 2016 03:44 GMT
#651
gb, if you had straight null on someone, that's 10/13 = about 77% town. choosing between 77% town who is good and 100% town who is not, 77% of the time the first guy is the better play.
consider someone who you read town. move it up to 85% or 90% town. nearly every time, putting them in mayor is the correct play. I have a 90% read on super so yeah easy choice.
good times for all
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 26 2016 03:46 GMT
#652
Seriously why don't we make me mayor?

I'm still a good player, I'm obviously going to try this game and with double votes mafia has to kill me before lylo anyway.

It's the best of both worlds, a good dialed in scum hunting damdred with double votes
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 26 2016 03:46 GMT
#653
On June 26 2016 12:46 Damdred wrote:
Seriously why don't we make me mayor?

I'm still a good player, I'm obviously going to try this game and with double votes mafia has to kill me before lylo anyway.

It's the best of both worlds, a good dialed in scum hunting damdred with double votes

damdred I thought you didn't want to be mayor
good times for all
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 26 2016 03:49 GMT
#654
Well I really don't but nobody is really taking the reigns and it looks like a horridly hard d1. And this secures an early exit for the game for me. So I can be bursty for the next few days and mafia has to kill me.

The more I think about it the more I like killing scum or at least a good Lynch bait and then mafia shooting me.

Excellent
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 26 2016 03:50 GMT
#655
On June 26 2016 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 12:34 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:22 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:07 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:48 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:14 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.


I'm saying that his style of play is not well suited to leadership.


Do you have a better option?


At the moment I think that tumble or super are better.


Are you comfortable with calling them almost-confirmed town? If so, what makes you think they're town?
Also, what kind of approach do you think they have which makes them suitable to be president?


No, I don't think I'm comfortable calling them almost-confirmed town at this point. But I put them in a similar boat with QT. I think they have a more stable, considering play style, whereas I find QT more erratic.
.

So, you're saying that QT, Tumble and Superbia are basically at the same level of towniness, is that right?

I'd like you to specify to me what exactly made you think they are town.


That's quite the order! I don't think I have time to make it exact so this synopsis will have to suffice:

Super: I see a very similar style of game play to what I saw last game when he was town. I think that his posts have been pretty on point.

Tumble: I think that he has been open with his thoughts, and I like the direction that he has been giving to the game so far. Many of his thoughts I find are echoing mine.

QT: I find that his posts have been very reminiscent of the last game. I think that he has shown consideration of the game so far.


I have no problem with your Tumble and QT reads, but I don't understand what you like on Superbia. I went to his filter and I saw a lot of questions with no follow-up to them. Also, I saw him town leaning on Jean Valjean when he had like just 1 post that was null at best. I don't really understand how his posts have been on point.

Also, do you have any idea how Superbia's scum meta is? Because although he might be playing a similar game to his last one, it doesn't necessarily mean he is town if his scum meta is pretty much the same as his mafia meta.


Btw can you quote a post where you think he was "on point"?


So I'll pussy(cat) out on the question answering stand-off since I'm heading to bed meow.

On June 25 2016 21:22 Superbia wrote:
I'm going to go with mainly gut again bc that actually worked out pretty well last d1.

Town:
- Art
- TW
- QT

Almost there:
- Chez
- TT
- Jin Valjean
- Damdred
- GB (least sure)

Somewhere:
- EC
- Skynx

On their way out of here:
- Moosy
- Jealous

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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2016 03:52 GMT
#656
On June 26 2016 12:43 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 12:34 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:22 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:07 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:48 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:14 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.


I'm saying that his style of play is not well suited to leadership.


Do you have a better option?


At the moment I think that tumble or super are better.


Are you comfortable with calling them almost-confirmed town? If so, what makes you think they're town?
Also, what kind of approach do you think they have which makes them suitable to be president?


No, I don't think I'm comfortable calling them almost-confirmed town at this point. But I put them in a similar boat with QT. I think they have a more stable, considering play style, whereas I find QT more erratic.
.

So, you're saying that QT, Tumble and Superbia are basically at the same level of towniness, is that right?

I'd like you to specify to me what exactly made you think they are town.


That's quite the order! I don't think I have time to make it exact so this synopsis will have to suffice:

Super: I see a very similar style of game play to what I saw last game when he was town. I think that his posts have been pretty on point.

Tumble: I think that he has been open with his thoughts, and I like the direction that he has been giving to the game so far. Many of his thoughts I find are echoing mine.

QT: I find that his posts have been very reminiscent of the last game. I think that he has shown consideration of the game so far.


I have no problem with your Tumble and QT reads, but I don't understand what you like on Superbia. I went to his filter and I saw a lot of questions with no follow-up to them. Also, I saw him town leaning on Jean Valjean when he had like just 1 post that was null at best. I don't really understand how his posts have been on point.

Also, do you have any idea how Superbia's scum meta is? Because although he might be playing a similar game to his last one, it doesn't necessarily mean he is town if his scum meta is pretty much the same as his mafia meta.


How do you not find fault with my QT read, but then with my Super read?


Because I think QT has shown consideration of the game so far but Superbia has never been on point. Superbia is null at best for me.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2016 03:54 GMT
#657
On June 26 2016 12:44 Tumblewood wrote:
gb, if you had straight null on someone, that's 10/13 = about 77% town. choosing between 77% town who is good and 100% town who is not, 77% of the time the first guy is the better play.
consider someone who you read town. move it up to 85% or 90% town. nearly every time, putting them in mayor is the correct play. I have a 90% read on super so yeah easy choice.


I'd rather have 100% certainty than risking a 77% certainty.

Why do you have 90% on Superbia?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2016 03:55 GMT
#658
On June 26 2016 12:50 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:34 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:22 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:07 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:48 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:14 emperorchampion wrote:
[quote]

I'm saying that his style of play is not well suited to leadership.


Do you have a better option?


At the moment I think that tumble or super are better.


Are you comfortable with calling them almost-confirmed town? If so, what makes you think they're town?
Also, what kind of approach do you think they have which makes them suitable to be president?


No, I don't think I'm comfortable calling them almost-confirmed town at this point. But I put them in a similar boat with QT. I think they have a more stable, considering play style, whereas I find QT more erratic.
.

So, you're saying that QT, Tumble and Superbia are basically at the same level of towniness, is that right?

I'd like you to specify to me what exactly made you think they are town.


That's quite the order! I don't think I have time to make it exact so this synopsis will have to suffice:

Super: I see a very similar style of game play to what I saw last game when he was town. I think that his posts have been pretty on point.

Tumble: I think that he has been open with his thoughts, and I like the direction that he has been giving to the game so far. Many of his thoughts I find are echoing mine.

QT: I find that his posts have been very reminiscent of the last game. I think that he has shown consideration of the game so far.


I have no problem with your Tumble and QT reads, but I don't understand what you like on Superbia. I went to his filter and I saw a lot of questions with no follow-up to them. Also, I saw him town leaning on Jean Valjean when he had like just 1 post that was null at best. I don't really understand how his posts have been on point.

Also, do you have any idea how Superbia's scum meta is? Because although he might be playing a similar game to his last one, it doesn't necessarily mean he is town if his scum meta is pretty much the same as his mafia meta.


Btw can you quote a post where you think he was "on point"?


So I'll pussy(cat) out on the question answering stand-off since I'm heading to bed meow.

Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 21:22 Superbia wrote:
I'm going to go with mainly gut again bc that actually worked out pretty well last d1.

Town:
- Art
- TW
- QT

Almost there:
- Chez
- TT
- Jin Valjean
- Damdred
- GB (least sure)

Somewhere:
- EC
- Skynx

On their way out of here:
- Moosy
- Jealous



This is Superbia being on point?
The post where he puts a guy as probably town for his opening only?

Yeah, I can't trust you. You might be mafia.
I'm adorable.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 26 2016 03:57 GMT
#659
Super has fallen off pretty damn hard I likes early tone. But idk might start dropping him soonish
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 26 2016 04:01 GMT
#660
On June 26 2016 12:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 12:44 Tumblewood wrote:
gb, if you had straight null on someone, that's 10/13 = about 77% town. choosing between 77% town who is good and 100% town who is not, 77% of the time the first guy is the better play.
consider someone who you read town. move it up to 85% or 90% town. nearly every time, putting them in mayor is the correct play. I have a 90% read on super so yeah easy choice.


I'd rather have 100% certainty than risking a 77% certainty.

Why do you have 90% on Superbia?

a couple posts I liked. first is this one:
On June 25 2016 07:45 Superbia wrote:
Oh and also this president thing is kinda cute and all but I'm going to take the free townie points and say we should drop it and play a normal game for now. We can spend the second part of the day deciding how we want to orchestrate the president thing. I have a few thoughts surrounding it but need to flesh them out.

a) easier for mafia to discuss mechanics than reads
b) last part implies he actually cares about putting town on the right track (prefers to flesh out his thoughts vs. spitting them out when he has them)
On June 25 2016 21:22 Superbia wrote:
That list is probably actually really really good

rare that mafia actually takes pride in their reads
On June 25 2016 22:27 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 22:21 Tictock wrote:
On June 25 2016 21:28 Superbia wrote:
TT lend me your thoughts


Almost caughtup.

I'd like to know where you are going with Moosy and Jealous.


Moosy's entrance feels too much like "hey guys, I'm claiming MAFIA, like I did last game I was TOWN". Feels too fake. I would expect town moosy to actually switch it up instead of doing nearly the same thing as last game.

smart post. isn't that the gold standard for reading superbia?

also feeeels
good times for all
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