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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2016 01:30 GMT
#601
On June 26 2016 10:23 emperorchampion wrote:
Not sure why you guys like QT so much for Pres. Despite his seeming towny-ness, he is self admittedly geared towards OMGUS which I think is a bad direction going forwards.

He seems like he is very committed to this notion of "styles", and I suspect that he will try continue to act in a similar manner throughout the game. I think that predictability is a good asset for town, but I don't think that his style of play will be well suited for the president role.


Because I prefer a bad almost-confirmed town than a good not-so-sure-if-he-is-town to decide a lynch and to have double votes
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2016 01:31 GMT
#602
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.
I'm adorable.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 26 2016 02:12 GMT
#603
For Jean Valjean:

I think that he was overly defensive of the slight scum lean that Artanis gave him.

On June 26 2016 08:07 Jean Valjean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Absolutely 100% confirmed town
Chezinu


Town
Damdred
Skynx
Tumblewood
Quicktwist


Townish
Subpa
rbia
-power gap-
Emperorarechampion

Null
GlowingBear
Jealous
MoosyDoosy

Mildly leaning mafia
Jean Valjean

Lean mafia
Ticktock


Please explain why I am mafia Artanis. You seem to think that my posts somehow lead you to conclude I am mafia. If you're not full of shit you must have a reason for that.

I'll await your swift response.


I think I can understand his post from the mentality of "I contributed as much as I could with the limited time I have". But these responses seem very heavy handed:

On June 26 2016 08:27 Jean Valjean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 08:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 08:07 Jean Valjean wrote:
On June 26 2016 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Absolutely 100% confirmed town
Chezinu


Town
Damdred
Skynx
Tumblewood
Quicktwist


Townish
Subpa
rbia
-power gap-
Emperorarechampion

Null
GlowingBear
Jealous
MoosyDoosy

Mildly leaning mafia
Jean Valjean

Lean mafia
Ticktock


Please explain why I am mafia Artanis. You seem to think that my posts somehow lead you to conclude I am mafia. If you're not full of shit you must have a reason for that.

I'll await your swift response.

On June 26 2016 07:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 06:38 Jean Valjean wrote:
Nothing little Jean Valjean has said has been helpful in any way. I think he is more likely than most to be mafia.




That's just an objective statement. I have said very little and acknowledged that my contributions would be lacking today. If you want to call me mafia you have to explain why what little I have said is no useful.

I am almost certain you are mafia by now.


On June 26 2016 08:31 Jean Valjean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 08:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 08:27 Jean Valjean wrote:
On June 26 2016 08:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 08:07 Jean Valjean wrote:
On June 26 2016 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Absolutely 100% confirmed town
Chezinu


Town
Damdred
Skynx
Tumblewood
Quicktwist


Townish
Subpa
rbia
-power gap-
Emperorarechampion

Null
GlowingBear
Jealous
MoosyDoosy

Mildly leaning mafia
Jean Valjean

Lean mafia
Ticktock


Please explain why I am mafia Artanis. You seem to think that my posts somehow lead you to conclude I am mafia. If you're not full of shit you must have a reason for that.

I'll await your swift response.

On June 26 2016 07:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 06:38 Jean Valjean wrote:
Nothing little Jean Valjean has said has been helpful in any way. I think he is more likely than most to be mafia.




That's just an objective statement. I have said very little and acknowledged that my contributions would be lacking today. If you want to call me mafia you have to explain why what little I have said is no useful.

I am almost certain you are mafia by now.

So I'm mafia for applying a reason you called Damdred mafia for onto you? Must mean you're like 110% mafia then, especially since you didn't explain it for Damdred yourself.


First of all, I wasn't talking about Damdred, I was talking about Superbia, a player that generally can be fairly helpful. In addition, he has posted three pages of content, something that I clearly haven't done, so the direction of his posts has become clear, while I would argue the direction of my posts is not yet clear.

It is unreasonable to call someone mafia for not posting helpful things when he has posted 3 posts in general. If you want to call me mafia for being inactive that's fine, if you think I'm actively lurking and avoiding posting, that's fine too. I just think the rationale you just gave is both unreasonable and opportunistic.

I don't believe you think your own reasoning is valid, and that means you must be mafia.


Another thing that gives me pause was his calling out of super:

On June 26 2016 06:38 Jean Valjean wrote:
Very little Superbia has said has been helpful in any way. I think he is more likely than most to be mafia.


While he also seems to be fairly aware of supers' meta here:


I was talking about Superbia, a player that generally can be fairly helpful


Two things: 1) I think that Super has had some direction, and I think I have a fairly good read on the way Super plays. 2) Something that I find odd about all of this is that there had been no mention of Moosy at all in this "you haven't contributed anything useful" line of thinking.

From his posts so far this is what I have seen:
1) He is admittedly not very involved
2) He has read through Super's and my filter, which he believes are empty but he gives no mention of Moosy's lack of contributions
3) Very defensive posting


Overall I'm not thrilled with his responses, and I will be very interested to see the level of his interactions as the game progresses.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 26 2016 02:14 GMT
#604
On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.


I'm saying that his style of play is not well suited to leadership.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2016 02:31 GMT
#605
On June 26 2016 11:14 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.


I'm saying that his style of play is not well suited to leadership.


Do you have a better option?
I'm adorable.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 26 2016 02:41 GMT
#606
On June 26 2016 04:04 Damdred wrote:
Well we can't have everyone town read there has to be a scum even outside moosey for you tumble.

And Tt idk he just wasn't very smart in his postings took a post that was a compliment to him not being lynch bait now tried to use it to scum read me, and has been boring sense trying to make mud stick.


Huh? How is
On June 25 2016 12:34 Damdred wrote:
Not really something tells me that you probably aren't scum and I liked several of your posts.


Problem is all of them besides tt are low hanging fruit so far this game which is bothersome


Movie is starting.


complimenting me on not being lynchbait? Like you had just posted that you are basically doing PoE and are down to the people who hadn't posted.

On June 25 2016 12:23 Damdred wrote:
It's interesting only people I'd be happy lynching into today

Tt, sk, Jin, jealous

Emperor im not sure of yet kinda want to put him out of conversation.

But Im not sure why I don't buy the town reads on sk it just doesn't feel or look right to me yet.


Besides Skynx those are the people who hadn't posted at all in the game. So how are you even going to make a point like "all of them besides tt are low hanging fruit so far this game which is bothersome" when there is literally nothing to read yet.

I'm just not seeing where your head is at this game if you are town Damdred. You seem like background noise and have brushed off stuff I'd expect you to try and get reads from (like qt and art fighting, you brushed that off as TvT way too quickly and easily).

It's true I'm not explaining my read on you and Art very well, but that's because it's largely gut and feels based atm. You are both fairly experienced players, but I'm feeling like you are both kinda timidly playing from the background. Your reads reflect that imo.
I can take that responsibility.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 26 2016 02:46 GMT
#607
On June 26 2016 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Absolutely 100% confirmed town
Chezinu


Town
Damdred
Skynx
Tumblewood
Quicktwist


Townish
Subpa
rbia
-power gap-
Emperorarechampion

Null
GlowingBear
Jealous
MoosyDoosy

Mildly leaning mafia
Jean Valjean

Lean mafia
Ticktock

oh come on now buddy. this list is bullshit and you know why too. I should be at LEAST a mildly leaning mafia right now if not a lean mafia.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 26 2016 02:47 GMT
#608
On June 26 2016 08:13 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 06:20 Damdred wrote:
How drunk was gb last night


ROFL not that much.

I'm probably making a catch up post in two or three hours

In the meantime, I think we should vote quicktwist for mayor as I think he might be the towniest here.

We have to organise ourselves to vote the two towniest people since the pardonner is the second one with the most votes.

I actually don't have a second name right now but I'll probably find one after I re read everything.

Also vote me.

yes i actually agree with this. QuickTwist is the 100% obvious town out of everyone.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 26 2016 02:47 GMT
#609
On June 26 2016 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Absolutely 100% confirmed town
Chezinu


Town
Damdred
Skynx
Tumblewood
Quicktwist


Townish
Subpa
rbia
-power gap-
Emperorarechampion

Null
GlowingBear
Jealous
MoosyDoosy

Mildly leaning mafia
Jean Valjean

Lean mafia
Ticktock


Lol, total 180 on QT. Now I'm your main scumread kus I called you and Damdred boring.

Good shit.
I can take that responsibility.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 26 2016 02:48 GMT
#610
On June 26 2016 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 11:14 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.


I'm saying that his style of play is not well suited to leadership.


Do you have a better option?


At the moment I think that tumble or super are better.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 26 2016 02:48 GMT
#611
On June 26 2016 08:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 08:31 Jean Valjean wrote:
On June 26 2016 08:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 08:27 Jean Valjean wrote:
On June 26 2016 08:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 08:07 Jean Valjean wrote:
On June 26 2016 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Absolutely 100% confirmed town
Chezinu


Town
Damdred
Skynx
Tumblewood
Quicktwist


Townish
Subpa
rbia
-power gap-
Emperorarechampion

Null
GlowingBear
Jealous
MoosyDoosy

Mildly leaning mafia
Jean Valjean

Lean mafia
Ticktock


Please explain why I am mafia Artanis. You seem to think that my posts somehow lead you to conclude I am mafia. If you're not full of shit you must have a reason for that.

I'll await your swift response.

On June 26 2016 07:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 06:38 Jean Valjean wrote:
Nothing little Jean Valjean has said has been helpful in any way. I think he is more likely than most to be mafia.




That's just an objective statement. I have said very little and acknowledged that my contributions would be lacking today. If you want to call me mafia you have to explain why what little I have said is no useful.

I am almost certain you are mafia by now.

So I'm mafia for applying a reason you called Damdred mafia for onto you? Must mean you're like 110% mafia then, especially since you didn't explain it for Damdred yourself.


First of all, I wasn't talking about Damdred, I was talking about Superbia, a player that generally can be fairly helpful. In addition, he has posted three pages of content, something that I clearly haven't done, so the direction of his posts has become clear, while I would argue the direction of my posts is not yet clear.

It is unreasonable to call someone mafia for not posting helpful things when he has posted 3 posts in general. If you want to call me mafia for being inactive that's fine, if you think I'm actively lurking and avoiding posting, that's fine too. I just think the rationale you just gave is both unreasonable and opportunistic.

I don't believe you think your own reasoning is valid, and that means you must be mafia.

I had already forgotten you were talking about Superbia and Damdred because that's how little of an impression it left. I just wanted to rile you up a bit as you were riling up others without doing anything yourself.

There is actually a reason I think you're mildly scummy though, and that's in that your 'observations' feel completely useless and I think you're just trying to appear useful with it rather than actually focussing on reading the full game before saying, for one, that Superbia's posts haven't been helpful. I don't understand why you wouldn't just read the entire game, especially one as short as this, before commenting.

loool dude. look at all your posts in your filter and 99% of them are attempts to rile people up. XD You can't call people out on riling people when you're the one with all the negative posts on others.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 26 2016 02:51 GMT
#612
On June 26 2016 08:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 08:38 Jean Valjean wrote:
On June 26 2016 08:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 08:31 Jean Valjean wrote:
On June 26 2016 08:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 08:27 Jean Valjean wrote:
On June 26 2016 08:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 08:07 Jean Valjean wrote:
On June 26 2016 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Absolutely 100% confirmed town
Chezinu


Town
Damdred
Skynx
Tumblewood
Quicktwist


Townish
Subpa
rbia
-power gap-
Emperorarechampion

Null
GlowingBear
Jealous
MoosyDoosy

Mildly leaning mafia
Jean Valjean

Lean mafia
Ticktock


Please explain why I am mafia Artanis. You seem to think that my posts somehow lead you to conclude I am mafia. If you're not full of shit you must have a reason for that.

I'll await your swift response.

On June 26 2016 07:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 26 2016 06:38 Jean Valjean wrote:
Nothing little Jean Valjean has said has been helpful in any way. I think he is more likely than most to be mafia.




That's just an objective statement. I have said very little and acknowledged that my contributions would be lacking today. If you want to call me mafia you have to explain why what little I have said is no useful.

I am almost certain you are mafia by now.

So I'm mafia for applying a reason you called Damdred mafia for onto you? Must mean you're like 110% mafia then, especially since you didn't explain it for Damdred yourself.


First of all, I wasn't talking about Damdred, I was talking about Superbia, a player that generally can be fairly helpful. In addition, he has posted three pages of content, something that I clearly haven't done, so the direction of his posts has become clear, while I would argue the direction of my posts is not yet clear.

It is unreasonable to call someone mafia for not posting helpful things when he has posted 3 posts in general. If you want to call me mafia for being inactive that's fine, if you think I'm actively lurking and avoiding posting, that's fine too. I just think the rationale you just gave is both unreasonable and opportunistic.

I don't believe you think your own reasoning is valid, and that means you must be mafia.

I had already forgotten you were talking about Superbia and Damdred because that's how little of an impression it left. I just wanted to rile you up a bit as you were riling up others without doing anything yourself.

There is actually a reason I think you're mildly scummy though, and that's in that your 'observations' feel completely useless and I think you're just trying to appear useful with it rather than actually focussing on reading the full game before saying, for one, that Superbia's posts haven't been helpful. I don't understand why you wouldn't just read the entire game, especially one as short as this, before commenting.


I don't believe the bolded. I have no reason to think you actually had some sort of a plan of "riling me up". You don't know anything about me or my personality, and this all sounds like you're retconning your own story to fit some narrative.

Feel free to join the queue of people not believing things that are actually true. I don't like hypocrites, so I called you out on scumreading someone for doing something that was true of you as well.

You're a hypocrite too on the riling!
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 26 2016 02:52 GMT
#613
On June 26 2016 08:44 Jean Valjean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 08:42 Tumblewood wrote:
jean feels a little too obvious to be scum
like he has all the tells kinda but it just doesn't feel right
not sure how to phrase it


"all the tells" implies that there are some objective things I've done that you can name of the top off your head that you consider to generally be scummy.

Please elaborate on at least three such tells.

duuuude you don't ask specifically for three tells, you ask him to elaborate. XD like what, hello? what if he has more than three or less than three? what are you going to do then?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 26 2016 02:53 GMT
#614
On June 26 2016 08:45 Damdred wrote:
Man art these kids now a days have no respect for me trusting you and super over me tsk

noooooo i trust you over both art and superrrrrrr
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 26 2016 02:54 GMT
#615
On June 26 2016 08:57 Jean Valjean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 00:36 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:08 Tictock wrote:
On June 25 2016 12:48 Damdred wrote:
Just a couple, your initial response to my opening post was good and showed you were reading carefully.

The post about art/qt about distancing while I disagreed showed a nice jumping around logic and looking at things from different hard to see angles.

I'm fact I don't think mafia GB makes that post especially going after art who is almost impossible to Lynch as town.

So yeah just some fun thinking from you. I think your town actually.


This is your most developed read that you gave out, everything else was super hand wavy.

On June 25 2016 06:58 Damdred wrote:
Because I think if I try to rub for mayor I'd get to wrapped up in that instead of hunting scum early. If people want to vote me I'd make decent decisions though.

Super knee jerk town.
GB knee jerk scum! They can't bear the responsibility

On June 25 2016 07:22 Damdred wrote:
Hrmph halfway being ignored sadness,

Sk might be scum, qt probably town.

On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.

I'm town reading tumble now
, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.

Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts?


And plz, "...beat most of the game to the same reads" doesn't mean jack especially kus you are prob scum.


Fake quote is fake. I don't see a good Town reason to do this.


Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 03:21 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 03:08 Skynx wrote:
On June 26 2016 03:00 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 02:47 Skynx wrote:
On June 26 2016 02:45 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 02:34 Skynx wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:56 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:43 Tictock wrote:
On June 26 2016 00:36 QuickTwist wrote:
[quote]

Fake quote is fake. I don't see a good Town reason to do this.


You mean this?

On June 25 2016 23:50 Damdred wrote:
How am i pushing shitty scum reads again?

Why are my townreads super lazy again when i've beat most of the game to the same reads exactly?




Nope, I don't mean that, try again.

Which one you mean QT you gotta be more clear. All three quotes look fine to me from Damdreds filter.


the underlined part. did you catch whos up to misquoting mischief? I'll give you a hint. Its TT.


On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.

I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.

Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts?


?????


Do me a favor and link the post in question.

Are you fo real? You said underlined part:
On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.

I'm town reading tumble now
, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.

Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts?

On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.

I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.

Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts?

If you don't precisely explain what you mean in the reply I'm just gona assume you're making shit up.


Its my mistake (well, TL's really). The post says it was made 19 hours ago on June 25th. Unfortunately I thought that was impossible since the timestamp says 8:00. So I went back to 8:00 AM and could not for the life of me find the quote. That would have been 5 hours ago my time at 8:00 AM. In short, the timestamps don't work like they should at this site. Will go back a check to make sure I am on the right forum time.


These posts, or rather the thought progression that led to them should basically exclude Quickdraw from any lynch considerations for today. While it is of course possible he is being smart mafia and focusing on irrelevant details on purpose, the fact that he actually bothered to check the timestamps means he is at least trying to think about the game in a way that allows him to contribute to solving it.

This means I would not want to lynch him today at least, and makes him one of my stronger townreads, for whatever that may be worth on day 1.


I think I want this guy to be President.
I can take that responsibility.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 26 2016 02:55 GMT
#616
On June 26 2016 08:47 Jean Valjean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 08:40 emperorchampion wrote:
brb catching up


I had a look at your filter.

The bad is more important than the good.

None of your posts are actually very helpful in figuring the game out. This is mostly just a gameplay observation, and not really relevant to what I think of your alignment. I would advise you to actually post some kind of useful observations or engaging in a conversation that might push the game forward.

On the other hand, there exists at least one reason to think you're town, but I don't really want to talk about it yet. I'll explain this reason later (probably no later than n1).

hello??? you can just say why he's town. he's posting freely while he wasn't able to in his game as mafia. In terms of gameplay, this is totally natural esp if you rolled mafia on your first game. like what dude, it's not a secret.
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 26 2016 02:56 GMT
#617
also, if emperor has more bad htan good in his filter what about me????
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 26 2016 02:56 GMT
#618
On June 26 2016 09:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Inspector Artanis has proof

Slam admits it was his smurf on the first post in the page after.


This doesn't change my opinion.

+ Show Spoiler +
Before I get accused of not reacting to stuff that happened after a post I decide to quote.
I can take that responsibility.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2016 02:58 GMT
#619
On June 26 2016 11:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:14 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.


I'm saying that his style of play is not well suited to leadership.


Do you have a better option?


At the moment I think that tumble or super are better.


Are you comfortable with calling them almost-confirmed town? If so, what makes you think they're town?
Also, what kind of approach do you think they have which makes them suitable to be president?
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 26 2016 02:58 GMT
#620
On June 26 2016 09:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Inspector Artanis has proof

Slam admits it was his smurf on the first post in the page after.

slam wtfffffff
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