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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 25 2016 03:48 GMT
#381
Just a couple, your initial response to my opening post was good and showed you were reading carefully.

The post about art/qt about distancing while I disagreed showed a nice jumping around logic and looking at things from different hard to see angles.

I'm fact I don't think mafia GB makes that post especially going after art who is almost impossible to Lynch as town.

So yeah just some fun thinking from you. I think your town actually.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
June 25 2016 03:49 GMT
#382
On June 25 2016 12:34 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 11:32 Chezinu wrote:
Guys,

Before we elect a representative, I think it would we wise to have a vote on what presidential candidate we want. Do we want Hillary or Donald? Trump or Clinton? We only have two options as the OP indicated. Based on the chosen president, the nation will be impacted. Let us choose wisely.


Representative comes before President tho..

I am well aware of this fact. It is a precaution. Just imagine if we elected a representative and then decide we want to go the opposite direction than what this person stands for. Imagine the UK electing a PM who wanted to stay in the EU and then the people decided they didn't want to be in the EU. Wouldn't this person no longer lead a people who want to go another way? So, let us decide now what direction we as a town want to go.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 25 2016 03:57 GMT
#383
On June 25 2016 12:49 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 12:34 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 11:32 Chezinu wrote:
Guys,

Before we elect a representative, I think it would we wise to have a vote on what presidential candidate we want. Do we want Hillary or Donald? Trump or Clinton? We only have two options as the OP indicated. Based on the chosen president, the nation will be impacted. Let us choose wisely.


Representative comes before President tho..

I am well aware of this fact. It is a precaution. Just imagine if we elected a representative and then decide we want to go the opposite direction than what this person stands for. Imagine the UK electing a PM who wanted to stay in the EU and then the people decided they didn't want to be in the EU. Wouldn't this person no longer lead a people who want to go another way? So, let us decide now what direction we as a town want to go.


This would require both presidential candidates to claim, which is problematic. I can't take this seriously if you are saying they should claim this early. They could be a PR or they could both be Scum or they could both be Town.. we really don't know.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
June 25 2016 04:01 GMT
#384
On June 25 2016 12:57 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 12:49 Chezinu wrote:
On June 25 2016 12:34 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 11:32 Chezinu wrote:
Guys,

Before we elect a representative, I think it would we wise to have a vote on what presidential candidate we want. Do we want Hillary or Donald? Trump or Clinton? We only have two options as the OP indicated. Based on the chosen president, the nation will be impacted. Let us choose wisely.


Representative comes before President tho..

I am well aware of this fact. It is a precaution. Just imagine if we elected a representative and then decide we want to go the opposite direction than what this person stands for. Imagine the UK electing a PM who wanted to stay in the EU and then the people decided they didn't want to be in the EU. Wouldn't this person no longer lead a people who want to go another way? So, let us decide now what direction we as a town want to go.


This would require both presidential candidates to claim, which is problematic. I can't take this seriously if you are saying they should claim this early. They could be a PR or they could both be Scum or they could both be Town.. we really don't know.

How do you know someone here is Trump and someone here is Clinton? This insight is enormous and possibly gamechanging.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
June 25 2016 04:05 GMT
#385
read OP named VT are blue.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 25 2016 04:06 GMT
#386
On June 25 2016 13:01 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 12:57 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 12:49 Chezinu wrote:
On June 25 2016 12:34 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 11:32 Chezinu wrote:
Guys,

Before we elect a representative, I think it would we wise to have a vote on what presidential candidate we want. Do we want Hillary or Donald? Trump or Clinton? We only have two options as the OP indicated. Based on the chosen president, the nation will be impacted. Let us choose wisely.


Representative comes before President tho..

I am well aware of this fact. It is a precaution. Just imagine if we elected a representative and then decide we want to go the opposite direction than what this person stands for. Imagine the UK electing a PM who wanted to stay in the EU and then the people decided they didn't want to be in the EU. Wouldn't this person no longer lead a people who want to go another way? So, let us decide now what direction we as a town want to go.


This would require both presidential candidates to claim, which is problematic. I can't take this seriously if you are saying they should claim this early. They could be a PR or they could both be Scum or they could both be Town.. we really don't know.

How do you know someone here is Trump and someone here is Clinton? This insight is enormous and possibly gamechanging.


I don't know, but I know that presidential candidates were talked about in the setup talk. It could be two people who have yet to speak as far as we know. Who know's maybe they can't even talk until we elect a representative.. we just know nothing at this point..

That's why I suggest we play the game as directed and elect a representative first. *shrug*
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 25 2016 04:09 GMT
#387
On June 25 2016 13:05 Chezinu wrote:
read OP named VT are blue.


Yes I saw that. TBH, I can't help but think this is an elaborate plane to role hunt.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 25 2016 04:48 GMT
#388
chezinu is probably town
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 25 2016 05:13 GMT
#389
On June 25 2016 13:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
chezinu is probably town


Based on what?
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 25 2016 05:44 GMT
#390
On June 25 2016 13:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
chezinu is probably town

I kinda get that vibe from him too. Do you have any substantiation I can... borrow?
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 25 2016 05:49 GMT
#391
lol wtf my signature is from some anime
I just copied it from some random guy on another forum
good times for all
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 25 2016 06:14 GMT
#392
Qt you think chez is scum?
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 25 2016 06:31 GMT
#393
On June 25 2016 15:14 Damdred wrote:
Qt you think chez is scum?


I have him as a Town learn currently.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 25 2016 06:37 GMT
#394
On June 25 2016 10:23 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 10:18 Tumblewood wrote:
Art, you really have to look past a minor inconsistency to see how townie QT's overall posting trend is. His play this game is characteristic of LS's town meta, and the big tell is that he responds to comments and questions that don't need a response. Consider:
On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee

What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all.

On June 25 2016 08:11 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I READ THE FIRST TWO PAGES QUICKTIWST IS LIKELY TOWN


I only had two posts in the first two pages of the game, here they are:

On June 25 2016 06:22 QuickTwist wrote:
No, I mean last time he said stuff like "first one to hard claim gets a free pass today" and I don't see him doing that here. Also his big huge letters was a little over the top IMO.


On June 25 2016 06:28 QuickTwist wrote:
No, I mean last time he said stuff like "first one to hard claim Mafia gets a free pass today" and I don't see him doing that here. Also his big huge letters was a little over the top IMO.

EBWOP


How are you getting a town read on me because of that?

On June 25 2016 08:30 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 25 2016 08:22 Tumblewood wrote:
qt town for the ls tell
aka being a scrub but trying your hardest


Naw, I'm not trying hard.. I usually don't try hard in mafia. I don't think I filtered more than 1 person last game.

I don't know how to explain exactly why this makes him town but these posts (and the misinterpretations and helpful attitude present) are just never going to come from mafia.

EBWOP


You would be wrong, hate to break it to you.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=7992981#p7992981
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10361 Posts
June 25 2016 06:56 GMT
#395
I'm gonna be real with y'all, I've consumed substances and will not be able to function for the next 24 hours due to prior arrangements, but I will be active afterwards. Sorry.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 25 2016 07:02 GMT
#396
On June 25 2016 06:18 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 06:13 Superbia wrote:
TW why you lurking son.

I was hoping my filter would be readable
note to self: skip the first pages of super's and skynx's filters


Why those two specifically? Why not others? Why not me?

On June 25 2016 06:20 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 06:14 QuickTwist wrote:
Sub is different so far from what I remember of him early last game. He's more serious and not as prominently trolly.

you mean that in the last game he was more serious, right?
do you glean anything from the trolling or no?


Don't get the misunderstanding here.

On June 25 2016 06:20 Tumblewood wrote:
wow that was exhausting I deserve a break


Follows that up with a joke, which by Arts logic would mean that is Sus.

On June 25 2016 07:46 Tumblewood wrote:
emperor do you have any reads + Show Spoiler +
or alignment-related anything at all
or just chilling


Looks like filler trying to look like they are doing stuff.

On June 25 2016 07:48 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 07:45 Superbia wrote:
Oh and also this president thing is kinda cute and all but I'm going to take the free townie points and say we should drop it and play a normal game for now. We can spend the second part of the day deciding how we want to orchestrate the president thing. I have a few thoughts surrounding it but need to flesh them out.

ya I agree
here are your free townie points
pretty obvious way to choose mayor too. choose the person who is most likely town and best at scumhunting. no real reason to discuss it now when we could be yelling at each other about who's mafia.


NOT talking about the setup could be more damaging than talking about it because we really don't know what to expect from this setup or what mechanics it could have. Looks like filler to me.

On June 25 2016 07:51 Tumblewood wrote:
kind of odd that emp has so much spam already compared to last game where (iirc) he had few posts D1 and most of them were Serious Business. not sure what to expect from his town meta though.


Gives a meta read based on a single game... TBH I looking into this and didn't see a huge difference in play from one game to the other.

On June 25 2016 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 07:53 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 25 2016 07:51 Tumblewood wrote:
kind of odd that emp has so much spam already compared to last game where (iirc) he had few posts D1 and most of them were Serious Business. not sure what to expect from his town meta though.


Last game I was waaaay more stressed out D1

true, newbie scums tend to be more rigid (shape is an exception to this rule, and every other one)
carefree attitude means more though when it's interspersed with actually playing the game, hence why chezinu isn't insta-townread in every game ever


Pure IIoA.

On June 25 2016 08:22 Tumblewood wrote:
qt town for the ls tell
aka being a scrub but trying your hardest


There is no tell. You have played one game with me.

On June 25 2016 09:03 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 09:00 Damdred wrote:
Eh mafia would probably rather fit into trying to become mayor and spam about that rather than reads after initial plan post.

Plus if I want people I read as the members means I'm giving a ton of info as scum which would be bad.

All in all while it's Mafias general goal, it's a bad one in the context of what in saying

nah mafia doesn't want to become mayor they just want the mayor to not find them
mayorship = scrutiny


I don't think this is true at all.

On June 25 2016 09:32 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 09:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.

Its good though keep it up.


Actually, doesn't it look like they are trying to distance from each other?

argument has gone on too long to be distancing, I'd say. either art is scum trying to lynch qt (kinda reminds me of when he attacked you in newbie xx) or they're town in a good old-fashioned shitfight.


K, so Art is Scum or Town... And?

On June 25 2016 09:37 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 09:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:30 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.

Its good though keep it up.

maybe
art feels a little too on the offensive to rule out s v t for me

I actually hate this reason normally (feel like scum tend to be more appeasing) but on me it's accurate.

No town points for you though. Don't think you know me enough for that!

just tunnel for another day if you want to collect your townread
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 09:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Although she seriously needs to stop trying to transition into Mutalisks in ZvP. It's garbage in LotV unless the opponent throws their army like Welmu did. It was okay in HotS but not okay in LotV.

yeah I know right totally


Why would tunneling be a Town thing to do?

Why make a thing out of SC when we are playing mafia?

___________________________________________________

I think I covered the rest.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10361 Posts
June 25 2016 07:03 GMT
#397
Obligatory I'm VT post because scum already knows and anyone who isn't scum should know. I will try to read when i can to make a vote.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 25 2016 09:43 GMT
#398
Oh hey this did start finally!

So I have no real interest in being the mayor, but I think I'd make a pretty good pardoner. I have a pretty good history of making decent D1 reads so have a solid shot at being able to pick a town bodyguard. Also there is another power that role has, and I'll totally read what that is at some point.

So yea, you should like vote for me kus I'm cool and shit.

Also anybody who tries to bring up some game from the past where I was a gunsmith is clearly against democracy and probably mafia, so they should prob be the D1 lynch.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 25 2016 10:01 GMT
#399
Followup Campaign Promises:

- I will read the thread! + Show Spoiler +
sometime... maybe even soon


- I'll be around for EoD and will try to help lead the voters in a calm and orderly fashion! + Show Spoiler +
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- I'll provide occasion cute/interesting gifs and photos!
+ Show Spoiler +
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- I'll be active and not try to base any reads off tarot cards! + Show Spoiler +
kus who does that?


- I promise no more than 1/3 of my posts will be made while incredibly stoned! + Show Spoiler +
#420Blazeit


Will we be able to make TL Mafia great again?

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Together...
[image loading]
I can take that responsibility.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 25 2016 10:19 GMT
#400
Hello!

I no longer think QT is mafia. This is extremely upsetting. I kinda didn't want to let go of it because if I was right I'd feel like a dunce

I'm curious though, QT, why do you have a scum lean on me? You said yourself that the reason I was scumreading you made sense for most players, and now you're applying it to TW.
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