better after weekend because I will have low access to internet. But I need to get lynched so... gogogo
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better after weekend because I will have low access to internet. But I need to get lynched so... gogogo | ||
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I'll make a list post when I feel like. I think playing a full game with only listposts is pretty cool. PS to LS and others who read this message: I will break my emotion meta this game. 100% certain. | ||
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##vote nnn_thekushmountains Going to ask the host if he actually asked to be replaced. It should be a rule in the future that if a person pms the host to be replaced the host tells the thread. Because this is bullshit wifom atm and it pisses me off. All other people can be lynched as well. Including me. | ||
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1 sec into the game and he has Palmar and Shape as town. lolololololololol. It makes damdred mafia because there is no way a townie can actually believe that and push those reads in the thread. Especially after that game in which he lynched a confirmed town role over Shapelog in 2 vs 1 lylo. This is just madness. On June 08 2016 06:47 Rels wrote: Well either he's replaced or we will notice it after some time so your stance here if pretty confusing. And kush is more active on town than on scum, so him asking for replacement is slightly town indicative He probably didn't ask for it and is mafia for it. If he actually asked for a replacement it is null. But probably still likely mafia. Kush hates playing mafia. nha kush is mafia. everyway all the ways. Please don't defend people that haven't posted with really dumb arguments. | ||
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Maybe Shape is town and Damdred saw it for some reason. I also think Rels is town for a post that I saw when I was glaring over the thread. Palmar needs to be lynched D3 if he continues this. Even if you see him shit townie rainbows. Only when you can actually taste the townie rainbows while reading his posts you might consider not lynching him. I am not going to waste any more time on him for D1 and D2. Kelsier made a stupid post somewhere and a good post somewhere. So not lock town for sure. Ls is town for the time being but probably already locked town due to Damdred. sicklucker had a good read. So not going to lynch him. But he is still null. Just possibly not useless. all others suck. Xcept Chez. But I am not going to pretend to have a read on him. Or ever will. He also wont get lynched ever so probably good copcheck or vig shot. I didn' tread the OP but I saw the host say we should read the OP. Sue me. | ||
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On June 07 2016 06:36 Rels wrote: Ls is likely town Ksc is maybe town for seeing this right now this one. always more likely a townie makes a posts in which he townreads somebody for thinking the same. just looks like a solid post. I was reluctant to comply to your demands but because you are doing things I did as a token of good will. Now that I did it and saw how brilliant my read is I am even happy I did it. PS: your read on kawadude is premature so don't push it too hard because it could very well be completely wrong. | ||
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I agree. But can we really disagree with it? | ||
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Everything that was said was pretty shit till up to that point. Giving everybody townreads for that is just more likely mafia not being able to think of something, than a townie actually being happy with how the thread was going. | ||
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On June 08 2016 07:20 KelsierSC wrote: well no i'm not saying Kwahamot is town based on his opening post. But he's just a noob right, got to give him some love and hope he blossoms into a beautiful flower ok congratz you are lock town for now due to saying smart things in a thread that is absent of smart things xcept everything I said. obviously. | ||
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And I suspect shape to completely change his meta again as mafia so literally everything he does that is game related will not count for him and I will judge him on the content of his posts and the amount of his posts and the timing of his posts. and it sucks atm. | ||
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To update TW his excellent list with my own reads: really town sl TW sorta town kelsier ls rels wbg null palmar kwahamot Will be hard to read chezinu scum team ve damdred shape I could swap out damdred with kamadude | ||
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##Vote Shapelog Not against this lynch after that post from wbg. My hipster self would like to vote VE again. Really dislike how he nitpicked something in TW his listpost to discard credibility and make TW look bad. While the overall quality of that listpost was pretty good for a replacement. | ||
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##vote VisceraEyes fuck wbg. | ||
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So the reason why Palmar is so highly town in TW his ranking is SUPEROBVIOUS. You painting like TW is just basing his entire list on activity and that your activity is superb and you should be above Palmar is SUPER BAD. SUPER DUPER MEGA BAD. and thus you are mafia. On June 07 2016 06:55 Palmar wrote: ##vote Damdred On June 07 2016 07:00 Palmar wrote: also shapelog is maybe mafia but damdred is more mafia so let's do that first. On June 08 2016 10:28 Tumblewood wrote: OH SHIT READS I FORGOT THOSE damdred shape scum palmar kelsier sl koshi town rest unknown I agree with palmar's reads so far Tumblewood wrote:[/B] On June 08 2016 11:09 Shapelog wrote: Was the bold the reason why I am scum? Did you actually read the response I gave? alright on damdred But how the fuck is Palmar leading anyone onto anything? even if you think Damdred is scum, Palmar hasn't been fucking here leading anyone. not the reason you're scum, you didn't ask for that reason. that's just another reason. the real reason is high volume low presence (aka you make up a quarter of the thread's post but aren't making an outsize contribution). of course palmar's not leading us yet but with the combined force of some possible effort later on and tl's hardon for him anything can happen. most of that was to say that I agree with his reads.[/QUOTE] | ||
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On June 08 2016 17:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Like I hope Koshi votes me the whole game and never gets me lynched and we're both town and I drag him kicking and screaming to victory. Why do you say this? You said the exact same thing to me last game you were mafia. But like word for word. ... w.e I think we will lynch Shape anyway. | ||
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On June 08 2016 18:00 VisceraEyes wrote: Like I know you Koshi, you're going to tunnel me until one of us dies. And that's totally fine, I've accepted that about you. It's actually a little endearing. <3 nha. I won't tunnel you. | ||
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On June 08 2016 18:03 VisceraEyes wrote: I think I use that word differently than you. You're going to base a lot of decisions about who you think is mafia on that read, and it's wrong, and you're going to be horribly wrong all game because of it. Kinda sucks. ![]() also unlikely. TW is lock town because his reads are based on reading the thread and he he had to read the thread after replacing in. | ||
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On June 08 2016 18:12 KelsierSC wrote: Koshi can you explain your SL read, which is the good read he gave? VE you have an opinion on SL? Nha sicklucker can be anything. I was just lazy and didn't change that read from Tumble. Pretty sure I earlier said sl has potential but is null. Rels is town for the reason I gave. sl voting Rels is something I haven't looked into yet. | ||
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On June 08 2016 18:16 KelsierSC wrote: I may be wrong , I often am. But you said he gave a good read and that was it, wouldn't lynch him today. I'm trying to figure him out at the moment. I said that and went looking in sl his filter and found nothing. So I don't know anymore. | ||
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Like.. If sicklucker is mafia. Shape is mafia for sure. The other way around maybe not. | ||
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The problem is I don't remember if he was mafia or town in that game. | ||
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chezinu visceraeyes damdred kwahamot mafia is within these + Palmar/chez. for sure. | ||
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So it is only 4 names + chez/palmar. legit. | ||
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##unvote ##vote Damdred information + peace of mind. | ||
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Those 6 names have never been town before in my mind. | ||
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On June 08 2016 23:02 Tumblewood wrote: what this doesn't make sense of course my reads are based on reading the thread, so are everyone else's. what are we supposed to do, throw darts at a list of names? sand in vagina problems today? | ||
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On June 08 2016 23:44 Rels wrote: I'm not bad and I'm convinced Tomahawk is scum. He is playing exactly how a newb scum plays. 100% scum I get really annoyed when people make claims like "100% scum". You can never be sure! | ||
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On June 08 2016 23:15 Tumblewood wrote: no I'm doing my best jat impression your read is no better than "he's lock town for signing up for the game" and I want you to explain it I am already not sure anymore what I meant with it but I think I was replying to VE saying that the order of Palmar vs VE was based on usefulness and I said that you list was based on how you read the thread. So Palmer > VE was based on context etc. | ||
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VE said your list didnt make sensr and made a cheap argument that he should be above Palmar. And I said that if he read your filter that it was obvious that the palmar position (and ergo your list) was based on how you read the thread. And palmar had the same reads as you. And now that palmar sheeped my voting pattern of voting shape into a damdred vote another town trifecta could be born. Ezgame really. | ||
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4 or 5 remain. Fun fun. | ||
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Sicklucker looking really bad last pages. Dnu if he is mafia. Damdred looking bad. Shape almost looking too bad. Rels top town. | ||
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If damdred is mafia one of the current wagons is mafia. Because he is trying really hard to not show face while waiting what this town will do. He is just making friends so the hammer doesnt fall on him. | ||
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You can see that Shape his doing his "let me reread" "I am going to reread" "I am going to do x" thing which he did in the game with you being blue and scott being blue. Why do you say he is driving the thread forward? And why do you think he is in control? | ||
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The reason Shape is town is that he continuously is trying to solve the game and keeps throwing ideas in the thread the one more retarded and farfetched than the other and has no clue which ideas are actually good and which are bad. And he keeps that up till the game ends. That's not what he is doing. There is no way you can read him town. Just no way. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:33 Koshi wrote: Shape his filter does not make him town. We all know that. The reason Shape is town is that he continuously is trying to solve the game and keeps throwing ideas in the thread the one more retarded and farfetched than the other and has no clue which ideas are actually good and which are bad. And he keeps that up till the game ends. That's not what he is doing. There is no way you can read him town. Just no way. Corrections in this post: 1) Shape his filter size never makes him town* 2) second paragraph is what would make Shape a townread. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:35 Shapelog wrote: *Misses the part where I filter dive, brought back the team idea with Palmar/bugs, The Rels point I just made, etc. conclusion: Koshi is wrong No. Koshi his method to read you is right. You just proof it by saying you are doing exactly what I say you would do as town. So pls don't be stupid Shape. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:37 Shapelog wrote: Damm, I didn't want to do this, but I have waited to long. I am a PR. With an open setup you can claim which one. Easier to find a counterclaim. You will be rb'ed till dead anyway. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:38 Rels wrote: OK this will get resolved before the end of the game. Let's kill Tomahawk .......... See... You actually have good reads sometimes and with sometimes I mean a lot of the time and people defend this guy but really not Damdred? | ||
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kamadude, ve and damdred left in my pool. And wbg right above that because a lot of his eggs were in the Shape basket. Played really well as scum. Push a lynchbait player and make a couple good posts to secure the lynchbait player always gets lynched before you. He got lynched and was a blue so... wbg is on the table. Chez still Chez. | ||
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##vote kwahamot No reason to keep this guy alive. Terrible play by him. Will always get lynched later. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:44 sicklucker wrote: and no one is reading my play as a cc ... (its not but it should be read as such) pls be less annoying. Vote Shape and hardclaim. No bullshit | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:46 Shapelog wrote: Why do I feel like the Kwah lynch is going to hit town based off how everyone is now jumping on him? sicklucker is ccing you. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:47 Shapelog wrote: Lynch my arse I dare you, I will nomate you for worst play ever. why is sicklucker town? ##unvote ##vote Shapelog | ||
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##vote kwahamot I am not making a decision 10 minutes before lynch around those 2 idiots. 36 hours will resolve this bullshit. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:50 LightningStrike wrote: Well there was the hammer. If Shape flips town we lynching Sicklucker 100% Day 2. Don't lynch into them. Lynch kawadude. It will resolve itself later. DO NOT LYNCH THE UN CC DOC. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:51 wherebugsgo wrote: Do you think we have the time to switch to Damdred? I would rather switch at this point and if Shapelog lives the night we just kill him tomorrow. MOVE TO SOMEBODY ELSE THAN THE FUCKING UN CC DOC. ARE YOU DENSE? | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:51 wherebugsgo wrote: Do you think we have the time to switch to Damdred? I would rather switch at this point and if Shapelog lives the night we just kill him tomorrow. Or vote Damdred. Move the fuck away from Shape. The real doc will fucking stand up. MOVE THE FUCK AWAY. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:53 sicklucker wrote: like if your a doctor you dont claim doctor you calim power role. if you claim doctor is very bad because it tells mafia how to handle night actions perfectly stfu. That isn't true at all. If you claim tracker as doc and the tracker counterclaims both fucking roles are spilled. Why would the real tracker not counterclaim you idiot???????????????? | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:56 Damdred wrote: Btw I'm tracker. MOVE TO FUCKING KAWA DUDE | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:56 sicklucker wrote: okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk .... kwahamot( VOTE PROPERLY YOU QCDSFDFQEZDGFSDGFQSDGFQDGFSDGFSDGFQSDGFQSDGFQSDGFS | ||
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I literally hate all of you. Even if those fuckers fakeclaimed. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:58 Shapelog wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Wherethebugsgo going with purely gut here WHY?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? VOTE KAWA | ||
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So the 3 wagons were town, blue, blue unless they are counterclaimed. and with wbg acting I guess he is confirmed doc. So we really failed on the Shapelog lynch. | ||
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On June 09 2016 06:07 wherebugsgo wrote: Also these vote counts are atrocious. My vote doesn't count?? Like please. This game is really frustrating to play already, please at least have the vote counts be accurate. Jsut hard claim doc. | ||
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On June 09 2016 06:08 LightningStrike wrote: We didn't lynch Shapelog. Check again who got lynched. I know. I mean with how WBG is acting he probably is the doc and really pissed off. | ||
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On June 09 2016 06:11 sicklucker wrote: ya i shoulda fucking fake claimed. im such a nice person No you shouldn't. You played correctly. Play like this and people might listen to you in the future. I'll remember. | ||
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On June 09 2016 06:11 wherebugsgo wrote: If I were mafia I would be elated. As it stands I want to quit the game because I figure you're probably on the same side as me. And that makes me pretty sad. Either you are the real town doc or you are a dumbass who wants to lynch the uncc'ed doc. There is no other option. | ||
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So... If VE is not mafia I am just going to be really sad. also amazed by the mafia play this game. I would be pretty pissed as mafia atm. Town basically lynched their top 3 reads. I would trade 2 blue roles for innocent child roles. | ||
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Now sleepy time. | ||
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One of my first games it was forbidden to claim any role. I remember Oats getting modkilled for it. It was in my third game. After the Ver game I won as SK. | ||
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Fuck claims. | ||
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Goddamn we can lynch Palmar tomorrow. Brilliant. VE/Palmar/Chez mafia team. | ||
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On June 09 2016 10:38 Tumblewood wrote: tumblewood esteemed even more 100% accurate reads list really town sl koshi shape damdred ls townish wbg null palmar kelsier chezinu could lynch rels would lynch ve Rels is town. I am pretty certain. | ||
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1) confirmed bias towards the tomahawk lynch. Rels truly believed tomahawk was mafia. Townies can be wrong. 2) Him going after sicklucker somewhere on page 3 of his filter was pretty townie. It was a battering of multiple posts in a row. He looked way more townie than sicklucker in that argument, and sicklucker was "correct" in his assumption that tomahawk was town. So if Rels is mafia he looked better than sicklucker in an argument in which Rels knew he was lying in. THAT is superhard to do. 3) Him going after literally everybody with decent argumentation that is based on analysis. Read his filter if you don't remember. 4) Really open view on the game. This post sums that up: On June 09 2016 05:35 Rels wrote: Yeah Tomahawk is the best lynch and should die. Shape is also kinda active but not making an impact. One of the two should be the lynch. Or Palmar adding Palmar there would be a insanely bold play as mafia. Think about it. 5) This post: + Show Spoiler + On June 07 2016 06:36 Rels wrote: Ls is likely town Ksc is maybe town for seeing this right now This post is really hard to make as mafia. Here are some reasons. a) correct analysis of what happened in the thread. I was thinking the same. b) very little words, massive information. No fluff. c) if both are town not what you want to push in the thread as mafia. d) Healthy amount of doubt that a townie shows when making this kind of reads, mafia tends to talk more in absolutes. | ||
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Yeah. Now that I look at his filter he is pretty mafia. Things that he has gotten for him: 1) An initial decent comment vs Shape. But in the end it was pretty meh. Not impossible for mafia to make + Show Spoiler + On June 07 2016 07:20 KelsierSC wrote: that is an excellent report of what happened in the game, thank you. I just found it weird that palmar called you and Damdred mafia, and you were more concerned with damdred than being like "palmar wtf get off me". 2) Defending Kawadude:+ Show Spoiler + On June 08 2016 07:20 KelsierSC wrote: well no i'm not saying Kwahamot is town based on his opening post. But he's just a noob right, got to give him some love and hope he blossoms into a beautiful flower 3) The list posts that felt right at that time. But now... I don't know. I don't know. | ||
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1) randomly asking Palmar something. No reason why, no follow up. Felt empty. 2) Some really boring and uninteresting post replying to Tumble his list. Felt really forced. And there is nothing really townie based on analysis or a good moment he had. Fuck... he might be mafia. | ||
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On June 07 2016 19:31 VisceraEyes wrote: Like my vote just keeps getting better and better. I'm so sure you expect me to believe that you aren't familiar with Spongebob Squarepants. This was so retarded I hope it was mafia on mafia. On June 08 2016 16:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Like how has Palmar done any more than me? Seriously though, I've given reads on people, explained them to the best of my ability AND been able to answer questions (mostly, I hear ya Bugs) That fact alone makes me suspect that ALL of these reads are fabricated and meaningless. ##Vote: Tumblewood Holy shit this was bad. | ||
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On June 09 2016 06:06 Chezinu wrote: List 2: Lightningstrike rels shapelog koshi chezinu wherebugsgo visceraeyes KelsierSC damdred sicklucker Palmar Well Chez.. If you are doing the thing again in which you put townreads in black and mafia reads in green I can somewhat agree except on the Palmar read. I would put him in green. But sure. Maybe Palmar is town, but if you are town I am missing a mafia then. This list probably also was after the kwaha lynch but w.e Like... I am going to assume you aren't this fucking horrible as town to actually think the black people are mafia. So you made a really good list in case you are town. Which I can respect. Question is. Are you mafia with Palmar and did you show face on that read? Meh. | ||
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Chez still Chez. LS, Rels are strong townreads. wbg is a townread. Shape and Damdred are blues till cc'ed. sicklucker is clueless. I don't know if he would play this clueless as mafia. But he hasn't shown me any real form of townieness yet. So I sicklucker is null to me. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On June 08 2016 18:20 VisceraEyes wrote: I kinda like sicklucker this game. Like, mostly the tone of his posts. Like "Listen up bitches this is how we're doing it" Unless he does that as mafia and I'm just not aware? VE + Palmar = 11 matches. Go look for them. VE looks so bad in his filter it isn't even funny. :D | ||
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Palmar null Rest town or blue. ggwp. | ||
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On June 09 2016 22:34 Palmar wrote: you called me mafia in the process which makes you bad It was in the process of finding the real mafia. | ||
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On June 09 2016 22:35 Palmar wrote: And I didn't really read your posts beyond calling me mafia. After that I knew they were probably poorly written fiction at best. Nono. This time it is facts upon facts. | ||
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On June 09 2016 22:36 Palmar wrote: I believe you and I am willing to support everything you say. Koshi2016 ![]() | ||
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After that Palmar and sicklucker. I know Rels is 100% town. LS is 100% town. WBG is 80% town. If somebody counterclaims the blues really read both filters. tbh I don't know think anybody can be blue except them. Palmar has been hinting mafia will cc after the night but I guess their highest chance on misslynches are vs Damdred and Shape lol. | ||
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##vote visceraeyes The blue claims were the best thing that could happen to this town. Not kidding. | ||
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On June 10 2016 06:45 sicklucker wrote: im a little sad because koshi was doing association reads with me and ve. and if he is fucking mafia tormorows going to be a headach.. Not really. But Palmar just doesn't really fit with VE scum. Look in his filter. Too much attention to Palmar it feels like. But maybe I am wrong. | ||
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Problem is that for some insane reason I think Palmar is town and sicklucker is so chilll............. Fuck it. Got to kill Kelsier first anyway. | ||
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... I don't see it ![]() at all. | ||
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Why are we lynching the tracker? Why do people believe Artanis? We are not in a hurry to decide between those. | ||
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On June 10 2016 13:37 wherebugsgo wrote: if you are town... no wonder you're were a lynch wagon, nothing you say makes any sense whatsoever. wow you are an asshole. 2 comments in a row. and I give it a good chance you are wrong. | ||
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On June 10 2016 14:21 Tumblewood wrote: hm damn I might have to reconsider I don't wanna deal with cc wars right now I'm going to sleep and when I wake up I'll see what everyone's agreed on and sheep that or something ##unvote ##vote visceraeyes On June 10 2016 14:09 Tumblewood wrote: Of the two tracker claims, Art is scum. There's a reason I preferred lynching Shape to lynching Damdred that I avoided saying earlier in the game: I was concerned that I was seeing Damdred's blue meta. Damdred as blue gets himself scumread to avoid a NK (source: Storm, Holyf***e). This is my scum meter for him: ![]() ##unvote ##vote: artanis | ||
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which get proven here. really incredible how bad wbg is. | ||
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On June 10 2016 14:22 sicklucker wrote: ya thats true... how fast did he cc from when he was replaced? It seems like something you would at least want to discuss with his new scum team if he entered the game as scum Why not wait 72 hours and see what Artanis does in the meantime? We know for sure there is a mafia between Artanis and Damdred. We are in no danger to suddenly lose. Just let them fight it out in the next 120 hours. It will be glorious. What you are doing now is a possible scum Artanis rape you in the ass and getting a fucking blue misslynched because he did a bold play that acquired MINIMAL EFFORT . If artanis wants to get the blue misslynched. Let him work hard and long for it. | ||
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On June 10 2016 14:36 wherebugsgo wrote: THEN WHY WOULD HE CC okay, this is really not that hard, but I feel like I'm going to get a brain hemorrhage if I have to explain this one more time. Put yourself in Artanis's shoes. Pretend you have just replaced into the game and you get the role PM that you are scum. You're catching up on the thread, you've spent a couple minutes reading backwards. Since Day just ended you see that someone claimed tracker. And you see that someone claimed doctor and your team shot them last night. You know that it's an open setup, so there can be no other town power roles. So, instead of just killing the claimed tracker on n2, you decide to counter claim him, KNOWING THAT IT WILL RESULT IN YOUR OWN DEATH. And you're telling me you think he did that, just because that play somehow convinces his teammate to keep trying? If that happened on my scum team I would be more likely to continue to not play than be convinced I should try, because that is literally the dumbest thing any scum teammate could do. I would be so demoralized that the first player in that slot fucked off and didn't do anything and was replaced by a complete idiot who decided to kill himself within the first 10 minutes of him joining the game. You must become Trump his running mate. How can he ever not win the election with you at his side. | ||
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You people realize that town doesn't have endless misslynches right? So getting a misslynch off on a blue is a pretty good play for mafia. really. | ||
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On June 10 2016 14:41 wherebugsgo wrote: this doesn't add up because there would have been a whole 72+ hours before anyone would bother voting for Artanis. He'd have had plenty of time to make himself look town and contribute. worst player ever. Holy shit. worst player ever | ||
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Even if Damdred is mafia. The guy is still wrong on how to solve this. | ||
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On June 10 2016 16:59 VisceraEyes wrote: Like I'm still town and you are still bad Koshi you have zero room to talk LMAO Doesn't matter if you are town or not. | ||
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We do not need to lynch between Artanis and Damdred yet. Let Artanis fully catch up. Let him work. Then decide. Looking at the post Damdred just made I don't think he is mafia getting cc'ed. Or he is playing it really well. We can decide between Artanis and Damdred in 12h+72h+72h=166hours. We can wait till lylo... It is important that we keep searching after mafia. Also I really dislike this: On June 10 2016 14:18 sicklucker wrote: but this cc MAKES NO SENSE IF ves town. because why the fuck would mafia go for a 1for 1 trade when ve was an auto lynch VE can still be town and this can still be scum!Artanis trying to get town to misslynch their last blue with a bold play. I do not think VE is town. But it is still possible. | ||
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So it was in scum!Artanis his best interest to claim really fast and get the misslynch in with only 24 hours left in the day. Imagine it guys... Imagine the fucking insane play Artanis does as mafia here. He replaces a guy who is getting scumread by literally everybody. And turns it around and gets town their last blue lynched. THINK ABOUT IT. | ||
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Like VE had a solid scumread on Kelsier for the entire game. Now he is doing the unlogical play and voting Damdred? After he selfvoted and fucked off? He is still hating on town... Was town right N1 and were VE and Kelsier both mafia? Is mafia putting all the eggs in 1 basket and is wbg showing face? Is wbg a fucking retard and is the last mafia still hiding in Palmar/Chez? Who knows. Just don't blindly lynch Damdred guys. Just don't. | ||
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Well that speaks a bit in favor of Artanis. Because he can't expect us all the be like wbg and just take his claim at face value and ignore him the next 34 hours. ![]() impress me artanis. | ||
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On June 10 2016 05:57 Shapelog wrote: Shapelog's reads. WGB and SL most likely will not get done due to time. Are in right spot thou Confirm town (unless CC) Damdred, pretty self explanatory. Towny boys Koshi, Breaking the promise to not be emotional seems to be his town meta now a days Town leans LS, While I think he is town now, to ever one still alive by day 3, relook at him. I am kinda still a bit paranoid from Cell about him, and by day 3 it should be obvlouis what alignment he is. I am mostly sheeping other people on this one. I am getting a iffy feeling from reading some of his EoD posts, but I might just be biased, Tumble: If I had to say anything off of the bat, is that if he is scum, he is prob. going to very activity and eager to play scum, due to his want of a scum meta. Also Pay very close attention if he starts, for any reason, quoting any scum games of his in a defense. This is mainly because A) the games are old, B) he as scum would quote it since it will give him prob. a instant town read, due to activity points alone. C) He told me (as town) to not use them in another game, for exactly point A. IF you do meta Tumble, do also note he is becoming increasingly more posty as town. However, that is it for meta. I am afraid no one really knows what he will do as scum, because he hasn't really rolled scum ever since his first game (he replaced one time, but it was for a game deciding lynch) He's beening cocky, which is what he usually acts like as town. Moving into posts in this game from him I actually found the reason why he was with Palmar's unexplained reads and I can buy it. It isn't the greatest, but it is ok explanation. His read on Damdred was as follow: + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2016 11:05 Tumblewood wrote: copying that thing kelsier said, why do you care about my damdred scumread more than my you scumread re: damdred read feels re: palmar read I agree with him so clearly he's leading us to the d1 scum lynch also feels On June 09 2016 03:49 Tumblewood wrote: damdred I can't believe you'd ever sheep koshi to hit scum isn't palmar your designated shepherd On June 09 2016 03:50 Tumblewood wrote: damdred wtf are you doing - deciding to sheep rels - not going after either of his solid scumreads - voting me, town god, of all people Which kinda was weak compared to everyone else's read at the time (most people, including me, had him as sus due to the jokeness, how he was acting, his posts etc.) but eh, it was on his catch up. Palmar read has moved from lightly green to Null. fine on that. I thought the read was stronger than that, but Palmar was just barely on his town section in his list post. Nothing else really stands out from him to me other than, Which i am going to laugh if he is scum, and this was him showing off. Right now, Town lean. Will relook after if I can. Rels: Shitfight + certain posts + Sheep. Going to look at scum meta if I have time for some things. For now sheeping. Null (no order) Palmar: His latest posts are ok, and are actually the best posts I ever saw from him in any games I played with him. Depending on posting, might or not be lynch tomorrow. Chez (would kill btw): Chez is.....Mixed. Chez (i am guessing) came to the same conclusion me and Rels did about Kwah early on, but that is all I really have been able to make out on Chez. Ways to improve Chez: Tar and feather his arse and make dance around as a chicken for town's enjoyment. Ways to improve Chez's read: RnR SL: Need to read more of filter and ponder, cannot due to time WBG: Maybe should be town lean region. Case on me was decent, tho some of it was off. HE has rebounded from what I thought of him eariler, and his style seems to be pick 1 person, work on them.(mostly) Need to read more of filter and ponder, cannot due to time Scum Kel: Was liking him till he dispersed. I actually have a really big problem with the post right after the lynch, Alright I am sorry. Ok, the post it self isn't the prob. but it is the timing of the post that bother's me the most. This is 5 mins after deadline, Kel thought he had a hour after the deadline for what he thought was the deadline. Now, you would think he would be able to spend some time in the thread just catching up, or posting or what not. But his next post is 13 hours later. My problem here is that, IMO, he should of at least been on for a while and been able to comment on some things (anything) about the lynch or what not because he thought the dead line was a hour later, and thus would be on during (or at least a part of) said thought dead line. Ik that is kinda nickpicky, but he abstance is kinda questionable. Other than that, Koshi really picked apart the reason's I liked him. Could def. be scum VE: I just filtered him, and It actually might be unlikely that him and Kel would be a team. Due to how he was actually quick to call Kel scum. However, that Idea was dropped and never picked up ever again so it actually isn't as strong as I thought. He actually did town read Kel so nvm. His other Scum candidate was TW, and I actually do not like the reasoning looking back. Reads OMGUS off towards me, quite ironic also that Tumble's read on Palmar was feels + same reads, and VE wanted to read off of feels, and VE gets pissed off at Feels read. It also was kinda misrepresented in a way, because tumble just said that VE didn't do anything of note (memorable) not that he did less than Palmar. Wasn't here for the ignoring part of the lynch. Was mellow afterwards about claims. Really do not like him. 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On June 10 2016 17:20 sicklucker wrote: SO we have 1/3rd that want to lynch dandred 1/3rd that want to lynch artanis and we have 1/3rd of people who want to lynch outside the claims or whatever. Koshi do you really think ve can be town if artanis is mafia tho? Your saying artanis just decides to save ve from getting lynched to go for a 1 for 1 trade? In that scenerio he had a mislynch already why would he claim? seems really stupid The Artanis claim and VE his alignment have nothing to do with each other. Artanis did NOT claim to let VE live another day.scum! Artanis claimed because Kelsier was looking bad and Artanis would have to WORK HIS ASS OFF to get town to lynch anybody else than him in the future. Which he didn't like most likely. I said this before. The 2 blues falling on Shape and Damdred was the best thing that could ever happen to this town. We were so fucking horrible D1 and the 3 misslynches that mafia needed to win this game were completely pulled away from them due to the blue claims. | ||
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On June 10 2016 17:23 sicklucker wrote: altho I think its important to flip one of the trackers because we can figure out ve's alignment from that. but na lets just do random shit right koshi How can you not understand this? Come on... It is so logical... | ||
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On June 10 2016 17:26 sicklucker wrote: na your wrong. no fucking scum is gonna fucking make a bad cc for a 1 for 1 trade when were already fucking lynching a town. we can figure out ves alignment form knowing artanis's alignment or vice versa I disagree but like I said. I strongly believe that VE and Kelsier/VE are mafia anyway. My point is that Artanis did this play not to save VE (unless VE is the RB'er and forces mafia to kill Damdred next night) but because he replaced as scum and wants to get the trade as fast as possible. Because the longer it waits the more chance there is that Damdred shows he is town and Artanis shows he isn't. | ||
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On June 10 2016 17:33 sicklucker wrote: "Because the longer it waits the more chance there is that Damdred shows he is town and Artanis shows he isn't." then why the fuck would he put himself in a scenario where its him or me? Lets say artanis is mafia why the fuck does he not just like say nk dandred. why does he fake claim putting himself against dandred? There is so much easier people to lynch in this game. Theirs fucknig chez theres fucking lynchbait god tumbleweed, Ls exists. Those are three people who I tihkn are town but usually get lynched everygame. seems a weird thing to do idk. DOnt get me wrong im leaning art scum its just really fucking weird this is all bullshit. | ||
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You can say that you did "stuff" but you can't say you did the most stuff. You only did more than Palmar at this point. I can see a Kelsier/Palmar/sicklucker team still being able. So if you actually play smart and actually play hard. You don't have to get lynched. But don't play the victim because in mafia we need to actaully try to find mafia and you were the easy answer for the entity of D1 | ||
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On June 10 2016 17:51 VisceraEyes wrote: Like I refuse to believe you don't remember bugs. Bugs is literally one of the best mafia players I know. -.- Pretty sure I have never played with him. Xcept maybe once. | ||
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On June 10 2016 17:55 Rels wrote: The only game I read of scum!WBG, he tried to create chaos into the thread D1 to make sure town is not organized. He did the opposite here. It points at him being town No he is not. He tried to really fuck up EoD1 with his bullshit. The guy was fucking trying to get Shape lynched while calling us morons. | ||
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On June 10 2016 18:05 Palmar wrote: Also Damdred being mafia sort of makes sense if my memory of yesterday is right. If I remember correctly, shape claimed and so there was some confusion and Damdred started emerging as potentially the lynch target so he just immediately claimed too without putting much effort into actually defending himself. he was going to get lynched 100% after Shape claimed. So he would claim as either alignment. | ||
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On June 10 2016 18:15 sicklucker wrote: no he would claim 4 out of 12 times. 3 of the 4 times when hes mafia and 1 of 4 times when hes the acual tracker. math is hard. I would like to think the 8 other times dandred the vt would not claim but I have acualy seen dandred claim roles as vt before... Now that I think about it I really hope thats not whats happening here that makes so much sense. but dandred is acitivly trying to get art lynched so na I like that math. | ||
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says the guy who was on the brink of counterclaiming the real town doc to get his bad read pushed through. thank god I was there to stop your stupidity. | ||
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On June 10 2016 18:34 Palmar wrote: yes, all three mafia are goons at this point (assuming there's not some clusterfuckery going on where neither damdred or artanis is the tracker). No single mafia is important than the other. Not true. If we lynch ScumRB!VE today then mafia is forced to kill towntracker!Damdred during the night or during the cc war tomorrow Damdred might have a check that would incriminate the last mafia. But then again.. I guess mafia could just let artanis carry the kill. | ||
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On June 08 2016 20:22 Koshi wrote: Damdred being town would really ruin my day though. ##unvote ##vote Damdred information + peace of mind. I need to go back to this place in my mind. Soo. Damdred is mafia :/ Really now that ruins my day. | ||
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Who is the second scum in wbg his mind? | ||
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On June 10 2016 18:54 Palmar wrote: maybe, just maybe, the simple solution is that I was, once again, right on day 1. d1 I was on Damdred his ass as well. | ||
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till he claimed. | ||
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I actually don't want to lynch Damdred yet on D2. | ||
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Just lynch the one who is most scummy. And preferably not today if it isn't clear yet. | ||
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you are mafia. Rels is mafia. And I can quit playing mafia. | ||
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On June 10 2016 21:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Do let me know how it was preplanned when I claimed 10 minutes into the game at 4am when no one was around. Somebody hinted in the night that it would be smart for mafia to claim after EoD. I think it was Palmar. And I see him instruct you do to this. | ||
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On June 09 2016 22:32 Palmar wrote: Koshi you're awful at this game. Blues should always counterclaim, probably after night ends. 1 for 1 is always a good trade for us. So, while we have no counterclaims there's no reason to even consider the possibility of the two claimed blues to be anything other than confirmed town. If they EVER retract, immediately lynch them. I want this to be absolutely clear. There is no scenario where they retract and don't get instantly lynched. If either of them is somehow neither mafia nor blue, that's not my problem. They should be lynched and if they flip green they should probably be publicly ridiculed for the remainder of the year. Here's the script. Damdy/Shape are confirmed town - if counterclaimed, lynch the scummier of the conflicting claims - if retracted, immediately lynch them | ||
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Kelsier: I am so dead guys, everybody thinks I am mafia. I don't have time. ![]() ![]() ![]() Palmar: Hey guy that is new please claim tracker. It is the best way to gain an extra ml. Damdred looked really bad. Artanis replaced Kelsier. Artanis: Will do boss. | ||
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On June 10 2016 11:01 LightningStrike wrote: Hmm this is interesting Lex is ccing Damdred's claim and actually came back with a check too. Idk what to believe (shrugs). On June 10 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote: FYI VE is still scum independant of Damdred's or Lex's alignments. On June 10 2016 11:07 LightningStrike wrote: doc been killed lex. On June 10 2016 11:08 LightningStrike wrote: Lex been dumb telling really hard here. Hmm. On June 10 2016 11:09 LightningStrike wrote: The thing is bugs is that this play isn't outside of lex's wheel house for scum play because he claimed Cop in a pretty much open setup for scum and he got lynched for that because the real cop cc'd him. There is no way mafia!LS plays this out so cool. And I wonder how Artanis knew that Damdred was tracker but didn't know Shape was doc and died. | ||
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Kelsier/Palmar/sicklucker/VE + Chez Mafia is still within those. Fuck your bullshit. I am sticking with that. | ||
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But I don't believe this shit cc. | ||
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Nope. I will never lynch Damdred over that guy. Never. | ||
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VE can be shit. Palmar has proven he is pretty good. If he is town I can lynch Damdred and others after that. I also can see Palmar/Kelsier/Chez being a team and we need to remove Palmar there. I dont believe Palmar is mafia with Damdred. | ||
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On June 10 2016 22:02 LightningStrike wrote: Koshi I agree with you with VE being scum but it best to lynch into the blue claims. Can VE be total shit? And with that I mean can he be completely wrong and siding with mafia as town? Have you ever seen that? Same for Palmar? Can Palmar be completely wrong and siding with mafia as town? Have you ever seen that? | ||
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On June 10 2016 22:08 VisceraEyes wrote: VE can be shit. Not what you are seeing here. People who know know I'm town. Get fucked Koshi. Can you make me a real case on Rels? I already made that town case and I am now so fucking blind towards anything else.... | ||
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##Vote Artanis This is what I believe. I could be mafia siding but I don't believe it. There are towns on the Damdred train and I do not believe that the entire Artanis train is the mafia team + me. | ||
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Rels/tumble/LS/Koshi are convinced that Damdred is town. I don't know what Chez is doing. Insane. | ||
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sicklucker/VE/Palmar/WBG/chez/Artanis and not Rels/tumble/LS/Koshi/Damdred | ||
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Lot of action. Lot of BM. Lot of Egos. Only VE being a little queen. pretty cool. | ||
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I am afk till game ends. | ||
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Ls is never mafia and played well. Sicklucker we cant lynch anymire because he played well as mafia. TW is town but had a weak moment but w.e. Wbg is a full blown retard and is a great example why americans are the joke of the universe. Rare to see somebody so obnoxious and retarded at the same time. Quite the accomplishment. Oh well. This d2 will be a good reread later. Amazing the post this fucktard made. Ve is mafia or really fuckibg horseshit. But he can be horseshit so who the fuck knows. 50/50. Palmar same. But he is a good player so 100% mafia. Rels probably not mafia but if ve is not mafia rels is. | ||
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But ls is never mafia. Listen to me and damdred But like I said. You are such a giant pile of trur shit and i am not kidding the worst player i saw so pls keep being shir. | ||
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Palmar Ve Artanis Wbg Do the opposite of what these tools want to do and you win | ||
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On June 12 2016 06:58 wherebugsgo wrote: I am completely open to the idea that VE is scum btw, coming into d2 I was 100% certain he and Kelsier were scum together. And then you believed a mafia claim and lynched an obvious blue. Pls stfu. You know nothing about this game. Truly the shittiest player i ever saw. | ||
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On June 12 2016 07:06 wherebugsgo wrote: wouldn't it be nice, though, if that were the game? Lynch artanis, VE & Rels. Game over? I think we might be missing something that is pointing to one of Rels/VE being town and I think it makes more sense for VE to be town than Rels to be town. Are you so fucking dense?? Relaly are you actually braindead? Artanis and palmar are lock mafia. After that it is a toss up between rrls ve and maybe chez. Sicklucker became untouchable. | ||
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On June 12 2016 07:03 wherebugsgo wrote: the outcome of that play does not change the fact that it was awful. It just speaks to how much Artanis hates playing scum, that he would actually just willingly kill himself like that. Pretty easy going forward though, just kill Artanis whenever he claims. Hahahahahhahahaha No the play was good because retards believe it. I told you the play as soon as I read it. Vut you are too fucking vraindead to see it. Or even understand it when explained to you. | ||
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Why should i explain anything to a braindead fuck that doesnt understand artanis was obvious mafia. | ||
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Wp mafia. Ballsy play and it worked. | ||
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On June 12 2016 07:29 wherebugsgo wrote: yes, I'm too braindead to see why a scum would kill themselves 5 minutes after replacing into the game. Cool story bro. Maybe I really need to be a shitty scum player to understand why someone would make such a shitty scum play. I don't feel bad about being wrong, because regardless we end up getting a free scum kill. You dont get a free kill retard . You lost a ml. 2/3 ml gone because you are a vraindead fuck that doesnt understand the game. | ||
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I am not solcing a game in which 3 mafia and at least 2 maybe 3 total braindead town fucks remain in. I can lose tje game right here. It's over. | ||
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On June 12 2016 07:33 wherebugsgo wrote: You're blaming me for the day 1 lynch? rofl. Also if you don't remember, I thought Kelsier was scum coming into d2, when literally no one else did. Nice that you conveniently forgot that. Retarded and dilusional. Nice. | ||
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And so did ls, shape and a couple others. You were too braindead though. And two out of tw ve and palmar. | ||
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On June 12 2016 08:03 LightningStrike wrote: Koshi don't quit we can win this but you gotta work with me and let me carry this town man. The only tjing I can tell you is to lynch palmar. Grtz on playong well. If this retarded tradhtown lynches you just dont care about it. They are really too fucking stupid. I think ve can be total trash. I just know palmar isnt. And I saw him make posts town palmar never makes. But it is very possible that they are both mafia. Rels is not mafia. Do not lynch him before palmar and ce. | ||
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So it is better to just lose right here... so sad we cant surrender. | ||
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But my votr is tied with yours. I am not reading the following days. Ill just look up your vote. | ||
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Or nk and let artanis flip as well. To speed it up. But I am sorry for going over the line. I knew it but couldnt control it. I tried to walk away. | ||
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I'll eat the ban and probably be calmer next games till I can't take it anymore. Good job on FF for the modkill. It was correct. Good hosting. | ||
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On June 21 2016 07:24 Palmar wrote: Koshi, ignore all the trolling I did in game, it was mostly for strategical purposes (calling you bad after your death). You really, really need to learn to adjust your tone and message. You have three objectives as town and you're probably the best player on TL Mafia at one of them (not getting lynched), and you're definitely good at the second one (finding mafia, excellent job this game). But you truly suck at the third pillar of good town play which is convincing town organize around your ideas and do as you say. I know it's super tempting to just blame it on "well they're bad, they should listen to me", but this is the most underrated skill in mafia. No one just comes in and has immediate sway over the way people play, it takes time and it takes touch. You have to read every single player to understand what arguments or encouragements they might respond to. Some people you have to abuse, others you have to hold their hand while they get there. And yes, I know it's a bit hypocritical for me to talk about this because by now leading town comes very effortlessly to me, I'm playing behind a "big name" and people in general are going to pay attention to what I say, but that hasn't always been the case. It's both the hardest skill to appreciate and the hardest skill to master. I'm sounding all lecture-y here, so sorry about that, but it's been my agenda for years to help people understand and remember this very important part of playing this game. I know what you are saying but it isn't part of my nature. I go balls to the wall every game and if I am wrong I am 100% wrong and I feel bad. But when I am 100% correct and I have a fucking retarded fuck like WBG (who I respect as player and could play with again) call me bad a couple times in a nonchalant way (as in "I read a couple games of this Koshi character and he is genuinly bad so w.e) and then this fucking retarded shitter pushes mafia agenda like a cunt while there is a guy being 100% right in the thread and you are calling that guy bad then I explode. I am too old to change and also unwilling. There is a reason I get banned on Dota every x months and running aroun with 9+ reports all the time. I don't back down from retardation. | ||
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I also kept saying sicklucker played too good to be lynched which was my knowing he could be mafia but never lynched because town was way too fucking shit and sicklucker abused it like a true master. a bit sad I was really mad at rels for being a disappointment and also saying a couple times he should be lynched before sl. Don't think I would actually would have went through with that. Always would have been Palmar->Chez->VE I think. Chez played decent only because he had sicklucker.. But he somewhere protected Palmar which I really didn't like. And Palmar made like a really dumb attempt to put some pressure on Chez after Chez said mafia doesn't dare to touch him. dat association. And Chez voted Damdred over Artanis over some really shitty reason that kinda made him town because it was odd for Chez to be serious for a sec. Especially because that serious moment was so incredible bad. Looked like he apologized to Damdred for lynching him, and mafia would never do that. | ||
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On June 21 2016 09:47 sicklucker wrote: your nk was submitted but then you went all japanese on us dat sudoku | ||
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On June 09 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote: sicklucker/VE/Kelsier Palmar null Rest town or blue. ggwp. N1 ezgame | ||
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On June 09 2016 22:17 Koshi wrote: Palmar/VE/Kelsier is were I am atm. Chez still Chez. LS, Rels are strong townreads. wbg is a townread. Shape and Damdred are blues till cc'ed. sicklucker is clueless. I don't know if he would play this clueless as mafia. But he hasn't shown me any real form of townieness yet. So I sicklucker is null to me. | ||
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On June 09 2016 21:49 Koshi wrote: Why I think Rels is town: 1) confirmed bias towards the tomahawk lynch. Rels truly believed tomahawk was mafia. Townies can be wrong. 2) Him going after sicklucker somewhere on page 3 of his filter was pretty townie. It was a battering of multiple posts in a row. He looked way more townie than sicklucker in that argument, and sicklucker was "correct" in his assumption that tomahawk was town. So if Rels is mafia he looked better than sicklucker in an argument in which Rels knew he was lying in. THAT is superhard to do. 3) Him going after literally everybody with decent argumentation that is based on analysis. Read his filter if you don't remember. 4) Really open view on the game. This post sums that up: adding Palmar there would be a insanely bold play as mafia. Think about it. 5) This post: + Show Spoiler + On June 07 2016 06:36 Rels wrote: Ls is likely town Ksc is maybe town for seeing this right now This post is really hard to make as mafia. Here are some reasons. a) correct analysis of what happened in the thread. I was thinking the same. b) very little words, massive information. No fluff. c) if both are town not what you want to push in the thread as mafia. d) Healthy amount of doubt that a townie shows when making this kind of reads, mafia tends to talk more in absolutes. On June 09 2016 21:49 Koshi wrote: If Rels gets lynched in this game after that analysis you people suck so much dick. dicksucking was real | ||
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On June 10 2016 16:43 Koshi wrote: Why not wait 72 hours and see what Artanis does in the meantime? We know for sure there is a mafia between Artanis and Damdred. We are in no danger to suddenly lose. Just let them fight it out in the next 120 hours. It will be glorious. What you are doing now is a possible scum Artanis rape you in the ass and getting a fucking blue misslynched because he did a bold play that acquired MINIMAL EFFORT . If artanis wants to get the blue misslynched. Let him work hard and long for it. cloned monkey↓ On June 10 2016 14:36 wherebugsgo wrote: THEN WHY WOULD HE CC okay, this is really not that hard, but I feel like I'm going to get a brain hemorrhage if I have to explain this one more time. Put yourself in Artanis's shoes. Pretend you have just replaced into the game and you get the role PM that you are scum. You're catching up on the thread, you've spent a couple minutes reading backwards. Since Day just ended you see that someone claimed tracker. And you see that someone claimed doctor and your team shot them last night. You know that it's an open setup, so there can be no other town power roles. So, instead of just killing the claimed tracker on n2, you decide to counter claim him, KNOWING THAT IT WILL RESULT IN YOUR OWN DEATH. And you're telling me you think he did that, just because that play somehow convinces his teammate to keep trying? If that happened on my scum team I would be more likely to continue to not play than be convinced I should try, because that is literally the dumbest thing any scum teammate could do. I would be so demoralized that the first player in that slot fucked off and didn't do anything and was replaced by a complete idiot who decided to kill himself within the first 10 minutes of him joining the game. | ||
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On June 10 2016 17:21 Koshi wrote: Pretty solid post here btw Shape. Pretty solid stuff. | ||
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lolol. When I am right I can say I am right because when I am wrong I say I am wrong. | ||
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On June 22 2016 00:30 Shapelog wrote: What is great about it? Like I keep hearing people say it was good and stuff, but tbh I cannot see why, I had Kel/art as scum sure, and all my town reads were I guess correct. But really it isn't great. Rels/LS was partially sheeped trs, 2 reads weren't even done, (though, I guess I was right about bugs being higher) I just do not think it is great. You were right EoN1. If you build on that post you would have solved the game. | ||
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lol how trash can you be. | ||
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