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You replace in and 5 minutes into the game you read that someone claimed tracker, so you cc them? As scum he had literally 72+ hours of a headstart which he could have used to just make himself look really townish but instead he decided to kill himself? That doesn't make any sense at all. There is no doctor. There is literally nothing stopping scum from just outright killing the tracker. It buys scum nothing. There is literally no reason for a scum to CC there. | ||
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On June 10 2016 14:18 sicklucker wrote: if art is mafia the way ve's day went by makes him probably his partner so art/rels/ve. The cc was very convenient ifor ve's life expectancy. as scum or town he had given up. but this cc MAKES ON SENSE IF ves town. because why the fuck would mafia go for a 1for 1 trade when ve was an auto lynch what the hell does buying VE another day do if artanis is scum? VE is not even playing the game. It would be better for scum for VE to CC if they are going to do stupid shit. Like I don't understand why I am still arguing this, but in the back of my mind given the quality of this game I wouldn't be surprised if these shit plays are actually happening. | ||
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On June 10 2016 14:21 Tumblewood wrote: hm damn I might have to reconsider I don't wanna deal with cc wars right now I'm going to sleep and when I wake up I'll see what everyone's agreed on and sheep that or something ##unvote ##vote visceraeyes what the fuck? are you the last scum? | ||
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On June 10 2016 14:22 sicklucker wrote: ya thats true... how fast did he cc from when he was replaced? It seems like something you would at least want to discuss with his new scum team if he entered the game as scum it was like literally 10 or 15 minutes. On June 10 2016 10:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: hi! What did I miss? On June 10 2016 10:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hold on Damdred claimed tracker? ##Vote Damdred | ||
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wtf??? Okay, ignore the timing. Forget that part. WHY WOULD HE CC IF THERE IS NO DOCTOR??? | ||
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On June 10 2016 14:28 sicklucker wrote: well if they are a team it seems like art calmed him down into trying with the claim. Ve is trying now. If art didnt cc its very likely ve would have continued not trying seeing all the votes against him after he self voted wtf??? If he wanted to convince VE to keep playing why wouldn't he do that in their QT?? like your logic makes 0 sense. I don't understand how you can actually think this | ||
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On June 10 2016 14:32 sicklucker wrote: yes thats where this conversation would have happened. and since art entered the game ve seems to be trying again. There is association here man thats all im saying THEN WHY WOULD HE CC okay, this is really not that hard, but I feel like I'm going to get a brain hemorrhage if I have to explain this one more time. Put yourself in Artanis's shoes. Pretend you have just replaced into the game and you get the role PM that you are scum. You're catching up on the thread, you've spent a couple minutes reading backwards. Since Day just ended you see that someone claimed tracker. And you see that someone claimed doctor and your team shot them last night. You know that it's an open setup, so there can be no other town power roles. So, instead of just killing the claimed tracker on n2, you decide to counter claim him, KNOWING THAT IT WILL RESULT IN YOUR OWN DEATH. And you're telling me you think he did that, just because that play somehow convinces his teammate to keep trying? If that happened on my scum team I would be more likely to continue to not play than be convinced I should try, because that is literally the dumbest thing any scum teammate could do. I would be so demoralized that the first player in that slot fucked off and didn't do anything and was replaced by a complete idiot who decided to kill himself within the first 10 minutes of him joining the game. | ||
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you fucking kill confirmed townies as scum, why the fuck would scum bother RBing an un-cced tracker | ||
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On June 10 2016 14:39 Damdred wrote: Also if Ve is going down and won't cc art cc me nets them a ml and they need two. If Ve is the RB art/Kel was next anyway they have to kill me and the last scum needs 3 ml which is harder than 2. this doesn't add up because there would have been a whole 72+ hours before anyone would bother voting for Artanis. He'd have had plenty of time to make himself look town and contribute. | ||
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On June 10 2016 14:36 Damdred wrote: Like maybe lynching ve is the correct move if this is a play to save the RB which might be Ve. It would force mafia to kill the real tracker and then you Lynch the cc that survives the night. If they both survive they get a free track and town gains info at the flip I actually have no problem with doing this besides the fact that technically it isn't the correct play. The reason for that is because VE is not actually confirmed to be scum. He's pretty likely to be, IMO, based on just eliminating possibilities, but we could still be completely wrong and have the scum be in like LS/tumble or some other garbage like that. Palmar, what do you think? Should we kill VE or Damdred today? | ||
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Imagine Damdred is the RB we kill VE and he flips goon, both claimed trackers are still alive and no track. Makes no difference. The worst case is VE actually is town somehow and we hit a mislynch and get fucked over. | ||
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On June 10 2016 14:50 Damdred wrote: Lol bugs you really gotta work on that tunnel thing if your town. Arts flipping scum and you won't even consider him tbh. it's not a tunnel it's fucking occam's razor. the cc makes no sense whatsoever. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + I honestly don't think VE is scum at this point... he could be, like Palmar said, but I kinda doubt it. Rels very well could be scum, his read progression has made no sense. If Rels is scum the last one is between Tumble, LS, and maybe Koshi. But the last two I'm more convinced are just awful and not scum. | ||
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On June 10 2016 21:00 LightningStrike wrote: Anyways Koshi and Palmar and Bugs if you are here I need to talk to you about Lex's claim. Sure, let's talk. You're wrong. Damdred is scum. There, we talked. | ||
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Given that it was the middle of the night EU time I'm surprised he was even around, but he immediately came back and CCed. Also you guys saying "oh but hurr he didn't know about the doctor how could he be town" are jumping to the opposite of the expected conclusion. The only way he wouldn't know about the doctor is if he were town, BECAUSE SCUM SHOT THE DOCTOR. You would think that scum shooting the doctor would be a big enough deal that Artanis would see it in the QT before the thread if he was scum. If you are town and legitimately believe that Artanis is scum, which some of you apparently do because it's more than 3 people, get a coffee, open up your eyes, click on my filter, read my posts, then sit down and let your brains digest the thing called logic that I use, and then come back when you are ready to play for real instead of derping around. | ||
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On June 11 2016 00:59 Rels wrote: WBG what read progression made no sense ? Sorry, I don't explain things to scum. In the off chance that you are not scum, you could prove it to me by having half decent, reasoned reads. As in not the bullshit you pulled d1 to get a newbie killed, and not the bullshit you are pulling now to get Artanis killed. Tell me, ignoring Damdred and Artanis who else is scum and why? | ||
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On June 11 2016 01:10 VisceraEyes wrote: Psh. I'm playing for real. Tell ME I'm not playing for real. You're not playing for real. You think Artanis is scum? Talk to me about who scum is in this game, I know you wanna. | ||
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On June 11 2016 01:44 Rels wrote: Don't know. I skimmed everything since the day started so I can't answer. That will come in a few hours. If you want a normal answer, Palmar for being useless + not caring around EOD1, VE for being useless and making bad posts, you for not being smart. The bullshit I used to get a newbie killed was good, the bullshit you userd to try to get the doctor killed was not. Yeah, you're scum. I should have switched my vote to Damdred as I said, you repeatedly not seeing this (and why I am town) makes you either exceedingly bad or just scum. You're so all-in and rigid on your initial opinions that you're very unlikely to be town. Your reads are unreasoned, and the only reason anyone would think you are town is your bold attitude and the number of posts you make, both of which we've established are not alignment indicative for you because you do that as scum as well. | ||
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