Names Are Hard mini mafia - Page 124

On June 21 2016 07:24 Palmar wrote:

Koshi, ignore all the trolling I did in game, it was mostly for strategical purposes (calling you bad after your death).

You really, really need to learn to adjust your tone and message. You have three objectives as town and you're probably the best player on TL Mafia at one of them (not getting lynched), and you're definitely good at the second one (finding mafia, excellent job this game). But you truly suck at the third pillar of good town play which is convincing town organize around your ideas and do as you say.

I know it's super tempting to just blame it on "well they're bad, they should listen to me", but this is the most underrated skill in mafia. No one just comes in and has immediate sway over the way people play, it takes time and it takes touch. You have to read every single player to understand what arguments or encouragements they might respond to. Some people you have to abuse, others you have to hold their hand while they get there.

And yes, I know it's a bit hypocritical for me to talk about this because by now leading town comes very effortlessly to me, I'm playing behind a "big name" and people in general are going to pay attention to what I say, but that hasn't always been the case.

It's both the hardest skill to appreciate and the hardest skill to master.

I'm sounding all lecture-y here, so sorry about that, but it's been my agenda for years to help people understand and remember this very important part of playing this game.

On June 09 2016 05:35 Rels wrote:
Yeah Tomahawk is the best lynch and should die. Shape is also kinda active but not making an impact. One of the two should be the lynch.
Or Palmar

On June 10 2016 14:22 sicklucker wrote:


ya thats true... how fast did he cc from when he was replaced? It seems like something you would at least want to discuss with his new scum team if he entered the game as scum

On June 10 2016 14:32 sicklucker wrote:


yes thats where this conversation would have happened. and since art entered the game ve seems to be trying again. There is association here man thats all im saying

On June 10 2016 05:57 Shapelog wrote:
Shapelog's reads. WGB and SL most likely will not get done due to time. Are in right spot thou

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Confirm town (unless CC)

Damdred, pretty self explanatory.

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Towny boys

Koshi, Breaking the promise to not be emotional seems to be his town meta now a days

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Town leans

LS, While I think he is town now, to ever one still alive by day 3, relook at him. I am kinda still a bit paranoid from Cell about him, and by day 3 it should be obvlouis what alignment he is.

I am mostly sheeping other people on this one. I am getting a iffy feeling from reading some of his EoD posts, but I might just be biased,

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Tumble: If I had to say anything off of the bat, is that if he is scum, he is prob. going to very activity and eager to play scum, due to his want of a scum meta. Also Pay very close attention if he starts, for any reason, quoting any scum games of his in a defense.

This is mainly because
A) the games are old,
B) he as scum would quote it since it will give him prob. a instant town read, due to activity points alone.
C) He told me (as town) to not use them in another game, for exactly point A.

IF you do meta Tumble, do also note he is becoming increasingly more posty as town.

However, that is it for meta. I am afraid no one really knows what he will do as scum, because he hasn't really rolled scum ever since his first game (he replaced one time, but it was for a game deciding lynch)

He's beening cocky, which is what he usually acts like as town.

Moving into posts in this game from him

I actually found the reason why he was with Palmar's unexplained reads and I can buy it. It isn't the greatest, but it is ok explanation.

His read on Damdred was as follow:
+ Show Spoiler +
Which kinda was weak compared to everyone else's read at the time (most people, including me, had him as sus due to the jokeness, how he was acting, his posts etc.) but eh, it was on his catch up.

Palmar read has moved from lightly green to Null. fine on that. I thought the read was stronger than that, but Palmar was just barely on his town section in his list post.

Nothing else really stands out from him to me other than,

Which i am going to laugh if he is scum, and this was him showing off.

Right now, Town lean. Will relook after if I can.

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Rels:
Shitfight + certain posts + Sheep. Going to look at scum meta if I have time for some things. For now sheeping.

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Null (no order)

Palmar: His latest posts are ok, and are actually the best posts I ever saw from him in any games I played with him. Depending on posting, might or not be lynch tomorrow.

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Chez (would kill btw): Chez is.....Mixed. Chez (i am guessing) came to the same conclusion me and Rels did about Kwah early on, but that is all I really have been able to make out on Chez.

Ways to improve Chez: Tar and feather his arse and make dance around as a chicken for town's enjoyment.
Ways to improve Chez's read: RnR

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SL:
Need to read more of filter and ponder, cannot due to time

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WBG: Maybe should be town lean region. Case on me was decent, tho some of it was off. HE has rebounded from what I thought of him eariler, and his style seems to be pick 1 person, work on them.(mostly)

Need to read more of filter and ponder, cannot due to time

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Scum
Kel: Was liking him till he dispersed. I actually have a really big problem with the post right after the lynch,

Alright I am sorry. Ok, the post it self isn't the prob. but it is the timing of the post that bother's me the most.

This is 5 mins after deadline, Kel thought he had a hour after the deadline for what he thought was the deadline. Now, you would think he would be able to spend some time in the thread just catching up, or posting or what not. But his next post is 13 hours later.

My problem here is that, IMO, he should of at least been on for a while and been able to comment on some things (anything) about the lynch or what not because he thought the dead line was a hour later, and thus would be on during (or at least a part of) said thought dead line.

Ik that is kinda nickpicky, but he abstance is kinda questionable.

Other than that, Koshi really picked apart the reason's I liked him. Could def. be scum

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VE: I just filtered him, and It actually might be unlikely that him and Kel would be a team. Due to how he was actually quick to call Kel scum.

However, that Idea was dropped and never picked up ever again so it actually isn't as strong as I thought. He actually did town read Kel so nvm.

His other Scum candidate was TW, and I actually do not like the reasoning looking back.


Reads OMGUS off towards me, quite ironic also that Tumble's read on Palmar was feels + same reads, and VE wanted to read off of feels, and VE gets pissed off at Feels read.

It also was kinda misrepresented in a way, because tumble just said that VE didn't do anything of note (memorable) not that he did less than Palmar.

Wasn't here for the ignoring part of the lynch. Was mellow afterwards about claims.

Really do not like him.

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Would lynch: Anybody below or in Null, following order of scummyness

On June 21 2016 23:03 Koshi wrote:
Such a great post by Shape. Twice I tried to make people read it but reading too hard for this town.

On June 22 2016 00:30 Shapelog wrote:

What is great about it?

Like I keep hearing people say it was good and stuff, but tbh I cannot see why, I had Kel/art as scum sure, and all my town reads were I guess correct. But really it isn't great.

Rels/LS was partially sheeped trs,

2 reads weren't even done, (though, I guess I was right about bugs being higher)

I just do not think it is great.