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On May 27 2016 01:16 Damdred wrote:
Yeah let me tell you, it's a lot more optimal to want to Lynch someone else and right when I can get 0 cred and the other person has a small chance of lynched I jump off to scum. I'm totally scum yo
But the fact that you think this makes you town makes it likely that you would do it as scum.
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Damdrd or ls:
If you were scum with each other would you kill me tonight or leave me alive?
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This game is kind of boring for me at this point because it's too easy.
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And convincing you guys might not be possible so I'm not going to even try.
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But I'm waiting around today so I have nothing else to do but sit in the thread and watch everyone else be bad.
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On May 27 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2016 02:07 Superbia wrote:
We're not lynching me.
Oh who am I kidding, I'm going to get misslynched on d3 because nobody cares that I actually straight up called out at least 1 mafia which got him lynched in the end. Like, it is pretty much impossible for a sane human being to think you had any part in getting HF lynched.
No but he was the first one to suspect him. And he gave the reasoning that palmar based his case on. Even though palmar probably came up with it independently.
Plus if they are both scum, they hard bussed each other, which is possibly but unlikely.
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On May 25 2016 02:41 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2016 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:On May 25 2016 02:23 Superbia wrote:On May 25 2016 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:On May 25 2016 02:16 Superbia wrote:
Kay I'm here.
HF/JAT. Explain how that point is relevant. It's pretty self explanatory. If you are interested in a specific read from someone on a certain player then telling your opinion about that exact player in the same post completely defeats the purpose. I find it hard to believe that you are this short-sighted as town. Why am I asking that question? Why don't you tell us? Apparently I am way too short sighted to identify your certainly brilliant and towny intentions. The grand problem with HF's 'push' is that it assumes I am asking for LS's read because I think LS is town and I want to know his opinion on kush because I don't have a good read on him. It could not be more ass backwards. I thought LS was sort of kinda-ish on the scummy side, and him calling two people town (both questionable reads imo) and questioning a third (kush) in the same post indicates to me that he was not reading kush town (someone whom I believe is likely town at this point) seemed to traverse him more in that direction, so I asked him for a hard read on kush (the read he gave was sort of meh). That being said, I have a decent meta-read on LS (I think), so I'm not drawing any conclusion of this yet. Just means he's starting off in the poor side of town (shitty suburbs). Now this what I do all the time as town, and I have never (iirc) asked for a genuine opinion on someone to become more informed. The question is always to get to know more about the person questioned, rather than the subject. This is like standard 101 townplay, which I why I am very confused as to why a good 'town' player would jump on this with this utterly absurd and simplistic point of view. Hence why I am skeptical of HF, as this is his second garbage push. And he's (supposed to be) a good player. And even more skeptical of you, because you have been buddying up to HF early on, even though I don't think anyone should have a town read on HF. And you're a very anal town player.
this post is really smart and townie.
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On May 27 2016 02:31 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2016 02:28 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On May 25 2016 02:41 Superbia wrote:On May 25 2016 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:On May 25 2016 02:23 Superbia wrote:On May 25 2016 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:On May 25 2016 02:16 Superbia wrote:
Kay I'm here.
HF/JAT. Explain how that point is relevant. It's pretty self explanatory. If you are interested in a specific read from someone on a certain player then telling your opinion about that exact player in the same post completely defeats the purpose. I find it hard to believe that you are this short-sighted as town. Why am I asking that question? Why don't you tell us? Apparently I am way too short sighted to identify your certainly brilliant and towny intentions. The grand problem with HF's 'push' is that it assumes I am asking for LS's read because I think LS is town and I want to know his opinion on kush because I don't have a good read on him. It could not be more ass backwards. I thought LS was sort of kinda-ish on the scummy side, and him calling two people town (both questionable reads imo) and questioning a third (kush) in the same post indicates to me that he was not reading kush town (someone whom I believe is likely town at this point) seemed to traverse him more in that direction, so I asked him for a hard read on kush (the read he gave was sort of meh). That being said, I have a decent meta-read on LS (I think), so I'm not drawing any conclusion of this yet. Just means he's starting off in the poor side of town (shitty suburbs). Now this what I do all the time as town, and I have never (iirc) asked for a genuine opinion on someone to become more informed. The question is always to get to know more about the person questioned, rather than the subject. This is like standard 101 townplay, which I why I am very confused as to why a good 'town' player would jump on this with this utterly absurd and simplistic point of view. Hence why I am skeptical of HF, as this is his second garbage push. And he's (supposed to be) a good player. And even more skeptical of you, because you have been buddying up to HF early on, even though I don't think anyone should have a town read on HF. And you're a very anal town player. this post is really smart and townie. No, it is not. It was misrepresenting the argument against him and completely avoided the issue. There is 0 towny thought in it.
I think it highlighted exactly what was wrong with HF's push. You usually ask someone for a read so that you can read that person you asked. Why would it matter how you are reading that person?
It's not like the person he's asking is gonna think "oh now I know he thinks kush is townie, I know exactly how to answer that question to look townie myself"
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omg that was confusing.
A asks B how he's reading C. A really wants a read on B, so it doesn't matter how he's reading C. And sharing his read on C is not going to affect B's answer.
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On May 27 2016 02:32 justanothertownie wrote:
On top of misrepresenting my meta.
Don't scumread someone for not knowing your meta as well as you know it yourself.
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On May 27 2016 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2016 02:36 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
omg that was confusing.
A asks B how he's reading C. A really wants a read on B, so it doesn't matter how he's reading C. And sharing his read on C is not going to affect B's answer. Of course it is. Wtf are you smoking?
JAT. I think koshi is town. What's your read on Koshi?
How is me thinking Koshi town going to affect you at all?
And it's not going to help you as scum either. I'm not giving you reasons why, and that's what you need to make up as scum.
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On May 27 2016 02:43 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2016 02:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On May 27 2016 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:On May 27 2016 02:36 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
omg that was confusing.
A asks B how he's reading C. A really wants a read on B, so it doesn't matter how he's reading C. And sharing his read on C is not going to affect B's answer. Of course it is. Wtf are you smoking? JAT. I think koshi is town. What's your read on Koshi? How is me thinking Koshi town going to affect you at all? And it's not going to help you as scum either. I'm not giving you reasons why, and that's what you need to make up as scum. Of course it is going to help me. Wtf is this bullshit.
How is my opinion going to help you make up an opinion of your own?
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Right but as scum, the hard part is saying WHY someone is town or scum. By giving you my opinion, I'm not helping you do that.
Also, scum's opinion isn't really based on the opinion of one person. It's based on what they think will make them look townie, and they think will help them win. Town sentiment matters to them, but the opinion of one person early game is not going to influence them.
I don't know how constructive this argument is. I feel like I'm not getting through to you at all. Please just keep an open mind going forward about the possibility of a damdred / LS scumteam.
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+ Show Spoiler +On May 26 2016 05:10 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2016 05:00 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On May 26 2016 04:51 ritoky wrote:On May 26 2016 04:45 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On May 26 2016 04:40 ritoky wrote:
If I had my preferred lynch today it would be rels. Things he is electing to highlight and prod at this game are shallow at best, his reasoning for suspicions and pushes is poor for his standards, and when he types in caps or types in his "passion voice" it feels contrived. I disagree but I give you some town points for this idea. Why do you disagree? I'm not exactly proud of these reasons because they are kind of weak but.. Aside from his confirmation bias on marv, I think he's made smart points. "HF gets no towncred for this push fake or not" comes to mind. Maybe he's going to low hanging fruit, but his reads have some depth: This is scummy by Superbia. I expect town!Superbia to not do what HF and JAT are attacking him for, and more than that I expect town!Superbia to understand why he's being attacked for that instead of being super defensive. The last game I've played with town!Superbia was resistance V, and he did all kind of smart sneaky stuff about his vote to get scum to slip by voting incorrectly. I disagree with the ritoky's read, he has put himself in a position where he does not need to do anything apart from responding to people. When someone types a code he responds to it. He didn't do anything that wasn't required. I agree his posts are good, he has good points on Tumble, he has good points on Superbia but the conclusion is stupid given his points, his post on SL is kinda useless. And he's been inquisitive about stuff in a way that looks genuine. Lots of "why"s. I think this is his best post: Show nested quote +On May 25 2016 20:01 Rels wrote:On May 25 2016 02:34 Tumblewood wrote:On May 25 2016 02:16 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2016 02:00 Damdred wrote:
Idk what I was expecting in the game but kinda meh about it.
Could Lynch Palmar, super, tumble today.
Fight me I will fight on Tumblewood I believe he is town atm. Why am I wrong on Tumblewood? This is definitely townie. LS is fighting to prevent a mislynch, which is pro-town and has no benefit if he's scum. This is a bad read. Scum defends lynchbait townie all the time for exactly this reason. This is a post that I also keyed in on, but then rels never mentions tumble again in the remainder of his filter. Town rels to me, keeps pulling on a loose thread until he reaches the end; why does he just drop this? His read on me makes no sense too, he likes everything I post but thinks the style in which I am playing is inherently anti-town thus I am mafia. Since when does style supersede content...especially for rels? I also believe his points against superbia are significantly better than his points against marv and much more grounded in non-meta crap, which begs the question for me why the hell he is pushing marv so much harder than superbia? This post took way too long on this device; sticking to short replies.
This post made me townread ritoky.
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Nice this Vivax replacement is going to be terrible for the scumteam.
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Lol jat has to bitch about everything
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On May 27 2016 08:06 Palmar wrote:
only reason anyone would shoot koshi is marv.
If it's not marv, mafia would shoot me or marv.
this makes marv mafia every time.
I think Marv is the least likely mafia to shoot koshi. Koshi wasn't convincing anyone about marv being scum, so Marv gains nothing from killing Koshi. Scum marv actually loses more than he gains because the nk superficially implicates him.
Why would koshi get nk?
1 He looked town.
2 He softclaimed blue.
3 You are on the wrong path.
4 Scumteam is gloating by keeping you are marv alive.
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On May 27 2016 08:21 Damdred wrote:
Never lynching me kush never
I dont really care. I just have to be right this game, and then people will start listening to me and I won't even have to do the work of convincing them.
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