EPTI feel cheated
/in, in the most passive-aggressive manner possible
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I feel cheated /in, in the most passive-aggressive manner possible | ||
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On May 05 2016 06:51 Shapelog wrote: Some slight differences, but the modkill one was the huge one I want people to see/give feedback. Eh I don't think anyone's abusing it. Banlist is only in place for cheaters and constant AFKs. | ||
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Setup: 8 vanilla townies 1 cop or vig 1 doc or vet 1 mafia goon 1 mafia roleblocker 1 mafia godfather or framer I will flip a coin to determine whether we get cop or vig, doc or vet, and gf or framer. Unless you really care about the weighted odds, but then you could just assign gf a 50% chance and vig and vet a 50.8% chance, and 0.8% really isn't worth that convoluted setup randomness. | ||
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 cop should be a full cop. mafia has gf/framer to balance things out. | ||
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What is the difference in doing what I am doing and flipping a coin? My version is more random, and that is about it. I could flip a coin, but A) last time I did that, I nearly took out my Gf's eye and B) That is not as nearly as cool as this. The difference is 0.8%. "More random" is a silly concept, because a coin and a setup that requires six random numbers both have 50% chance. I wouldn't really oppose this + Show Spoiler +nah I have nothing better to do of course I would | ||
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On May 12 2016 02:12 Shapelog wrote: Perhaps one day you can shadow me Dis, wouldn't matter what I roll, since I am always scum  Going to start hard advertising everywhere to try to fill the game. Wait for Wonderful to end, it has 3 newbies playing . | ||
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I can't be signed up for a million games at once or else I might end up in a million games at once | ||
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On May 23 2016 05:04 Skynx wrote: /in Never played b4 yo Good to see some new players! If this is your first time playing mafia, I recommend you read this guide on how to play. | ||
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/in if there's a spot left | ||
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nai = not alignment indicative tr = townread = who you think is town sr = scumread = who you think is mafia (mafia = scum) null = no opinion plynch = policy lynch = lynching someone based on policy over analysis (like for being afk) | ||
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On June 04 2016 07:23 Skynx wrote: ![[image loading]](http://img.michaeljacksonspictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/popcorn-blank.gif)  | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:06 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Wtf is PR? Addition to glossary: PR = power role = town role with special abilities (like doctor or cop) | ||
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Removal from glossary pending | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote: With that folks let's do this. ##Vote: QuickTwist hopefully this is the TL Mafia format, I've been playing on other sites too much lately. Format right, vote is pretty bad | ||
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I don't like voting threads | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:18 QuickTwist wrote: you're going to have to explain what this veteran thing is that you are talking about, cuz I am not a vet. I will vehemently deny that claim It's a role that lets you survive one shot | ||
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And no, QuickTwist will forever be QT | ||
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50/50 like for reading and applying Incognito's guide / dislike for maybe (?) hiding behind Incognito's guide instead of speaking for yourself also Incognito's guide is pretty old and now there are a lot of players that spam as both alignments | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:48 Superbia wrote: What do you think of the fact that he has given like 4 people a townread? why would giving lots of people townreads make someone scummy? I'd expect that the question would be more "giving 4 reads in the first hour" | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:50 Superbia wrote: I don't see a good reason for pretty much all of them. Jealous could be an exception but it was still way too early to conclude anything. have you ever seen the mafiauniverse (that's the website hosting the mafia championship) turbo games? the games have 18 minute day phases and 6 minute night phases and everyone who makes reads makes them off of ten posts or less for the first couple of days and have a mostly guesswork basis. perhaps he comes from a site where reads are made similarly? | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:59 QuickTwist wrote: I explained this partially but I will explain to those who may not understand the intricacies of this. Sup is trying to look like he is town. So either he is playing some really fantastic head games with people and he wants people to vote him to see who picks up on his scummy behavior and votes Obvscum OR he is just really bad Scum who is trying to look like they are scum hunting in the most obvious straightforward way possible. I don't think he is so dumb that he could legit be Town trying to scum hunt, but at this point I can't rule that out I guess. have you heard of "WIFOM"? it stands for "wine in front of me", in reference to some scene from The Princess Bride. this is what it means and WIFOM is about the most I'd say about superbia's early-early-early-D1 play. | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:01 Superbia wrote: Tumble you're not playing your town meta. You might want to change that before anyone else notices. I do what I want + Show Spoiler + is this a soft scumread or what | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/TcornjZ.png) the notable difference I found was that you tended more towards crazy theories and casting suspicion as mafia than as town. | ||
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town: superbia, qt town lean: emperor null: moosy scum lean: jealous scum: [pending further posts] | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:24 QuickTwist wrote: Interesting theory. Unfortunately we don't lynch lurkers day 1. welcome to TL mafia, where we only lynch lurkers day 1 + Show Spoiler + I'm only half joking | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:27 Jealous wrote: One of the advantages or disadvantages of being a non-native speaker is that I've learned many words that are more accurate to my intention but are unwieldy for native speakers. Another contributing factor is that when my fingers are on the keyboard, I enter some parallel mindset of "must make this Ivy League - level" because of my job. As a mafia in that game, after re-reading my own posts, I've come to the conclusion that I fucked up and tried to be too vehement in my defense and my counter-arguments were all stretches of the imagination. It was the text translation of desperation once I became suspected. I don't want to get into an irrelevant argument like this during the game but don't worry I'll surely have enough pent-up irritation to blast you about it post-game | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:31 Jealous wrote: Not sure what you're +1 on, the plight of a foreign English speaker who teaches and revises English writing or that of a Mafia who over-extends under pressure?? +1 means "I second this" in Internet-land I also would not say that QT not directly answering your pressure indicates that he is scum. | ||
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oh my god that face is so smug I love it | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:33 Jealous wrote: Instead of substantiating your claims you post image macros that effectively close the topic for further analysis and discussion, something that would be key for scum to do in order to protect themselves from further inspection. the folly in this is that no one "protects themselves from further inspection" by posting images instead of responses, nor is that "key for scum to do". qt should not be afraid of the pressure you are putting on him because it is weak pressure (in the sense that it is convincing no one else) and it does not help him avoid inspection. | ||
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I'll be back when kush or someone is in the thread so I can be productive | ||
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On June 04 2016 10:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: The single biggest indicator of alignment is consistent activity. That is why we need to kill a lurker day 1. okay with plynches but not for that reason. in newbie games mafia is lynched almost never on d1 so I'd rather take my chances on someone who won't contribute than someone who might turn out to be a helpful townie | ||
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what but why it's in town's best interest to look townie (except to dodge nightkills) so town doesn't waste a lynch on them | ||
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On June 04 2016 10:49 QuickTwist wrote: Town should scum hunt without worrying about what they look like. finding scum is just one of the three pillars of being townie 1) find scum 2) establish your towniness 3) form a town circle with other townies | ||
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On June 04 2016 11:00 QuickTwist wrote: ##Vote: Tumblewood I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I? said the player who gave out four townreads in the first half hour of the game I think you should be getting towncred because the way you are acting is totally unlike how newbie scums tend to act | ||
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qt why did you vote ("vote") me in this thread and then vote sqrt in the voting thread? what do you mean by that? | ||
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On June 04 2016 11:24 QuickTwist wrote: OK, so here's why I think Jealous is Town. He's smart. He knows being overly confident in his reads helps town. He has been pushing scummy behavior namely, me. He is paying really close attention to the game and what people say and jumping on anything the looks like it could get traction. He's pushing his agenda and trying to be very correct. For that reason I think he would make a really bad lynch today. his scumreads are founded in a mountain of evidence, but that evidence does not make anyone scum. I don't see how you can refute his reads as misled but then call them good and townie all of a sudden. townread suspended | ||
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On June 04 2016 11:36 Jealous wrote: The only outside theory I have, if I may, is again collusion. He voted for one player. He then changes his vote to another player, while possibly trying to slip by the fact that he actually voted for yet another player, one that only has any votes from kushmountain, a player whose defense for the lack of activity and analysis in comparison to his previous posting style was simply "I was at work so I had more free time," which should be bullshit to begin with. As I see it, there are two interpretations here: 1. QuickTwist is a free radical, a wildcard, and for that reason he is dangerous to the town. He does not respond to questioning with any substance, makes unsubstantiated claims, and he intentionally misleads the other town members. Maybe he just doesn't care. Regardless of the underlying cause, he should be lynched because even a townie of his character is detrimental to the town simply because of the chaos he propagates. 2. QuickTwist is Mafia, and potentially so is kushmountain. Being new to TL Mafia, QuickTwist acted rashly and had to backtrack after some further coordination with the veteran player. This means he is scum, and is detrimental to the town, and should be lynched. I fail to see any other alternative. of course this is a crude summary, but the vibe I get from this post is, "QT acts irrationally, and therefore he is probably mafia," which is a poor basis for a scumread, because town players frequently act irrationally. QT has actually been the single most helpful person to town so far, regardless of alignment, because he has sparked quality discussion and remained active all game so far. | ||
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does this post mean something or no? | ||
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playing this game is just not fun for me right now because the only two active players are on (what I see as) the wrong track and set in it. feels like I'm talking to a brick wall. | ||
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Jealous and QT... ur bad, kidz what you see from TT is pretty normal behavior for early day 1, and you're so eager to jump onto people for easy reasons ("said something that wasn't productive", "off topic", "could be scum doing X stupid plan") and also don't recognize a joke when it's right in your face. I'm sitting somewhere between 'scum' and 'scrub' for both of you... it seems like one of QT and Jealous surely has to be mafia because they're both acting unnecessarily tryhard, but if they're both scum together then it must be the play of the century to keep a stupid conversation alive so long between two scumbuddies. | ||
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I'll have you know that pre-flip associations are my pride and joy, my lifeblood, my bringer of light, and I will not have you sully the fair name. | ||
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or we could plynch sqrt and let their alignments become more apparent over time. | ||
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BTW, those arguments on the basis of "tryhard" are because tryhard has an inherent component of insecurity, which is a big scumtell in newbies. | ||
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Lynch or Lose-- like a 2v1 or 3v2 scenario | ||
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On June 05 2016 01:45 emperorchampion wrote: Filter diving, I like the term To be honest, with regards to filter diving, I'm just not really sure the best way to play the game, so I'm trying things to see what works out. this comes from a genuine townie who's trying. emperor is town. | ||
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On June 05 2016 02:22 Jealous wrote: That's unfortunate, but we should not ignore who voted for sqrtofneg1. Perhaps I'm forgetting something, but is there any justification forthcoming from kushmountains, QuickTwist, or Tumblewood for trying to lynch sqrtofneg1? I want a policy-lynch today (basically, lynching someone who is AFK), because I think that the active players will make their alignments clear as the game progresses and that the inactive players will remain coinflips throughout the game. Also, in newbie games, scum is lynched 16% of the time on D1 when random lynching would lynch scum 25% of the time (source: the database). I would rather lynch someone who is 50/50 inactive townie / scum than someone who is 50/50 active townie / scum. Sqrtofneg1 is perhaps the worst of the lurkers to lynch now that he is getting a replacement, but I would like to lynch someone inactive today. | ||
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On June 05 2016 02:30 Jealous wrote: Let me be clear, I have the greatest suspicion of him being scum of anyone else in the thread so far, that is the main reason for my vote. However, my argument is that even if he flips town, then he was behaving in a way that is counterproductive to the town. Namely, he makes unsubstantiated reads, fake votes in this thread, and dodges questions. Thus, I''m doubly willing to take the chance on a Day 1 read and voted for him. Seems others feel the same way. that's not counterproductive to the town though oh my... have you heard of the player "Palmar"? most people regard him as one of the best players on the site, and he almost never substantiates his reads or answers questions on D1. This is his filter from the last game he played. One can be helpful to town without backing up what one says. | ||
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On June 05 2016 03:06 Jealous wrote: You never asked me for my read on MoosyDoosy so I couldn't have been inconsistent, but since we're on the topic I do find his posting habits to be wildly inconsistent themselves. He hasn't been very active despite answering what felt like the first 10 posts in Day 1 all in 1 megapost. The major difference between Moosy and QuickTwist is that QuickTwist, as I say time and again, has been dodgy and intentionally misleading town. That is why he takes priority over Moosy for today's lynch. "actually I didn't say anything earlier because you didn't ask me, but that reminds me that I've been scumreading moosy for some time now" no me gusta | ||
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source: feels | ||
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On June 05 2016 03:18 MoosyDoosy wrote: There was this one guy who said Quicktwist was town based on activity. What about killing him? kush no, I'm not killing kush D1 he's probably out on a date with his fiancee, Ms. Policy Lynch | ||
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On June 05 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote: @tumble what makes you wanna plynch sqrt instead of fecalfeast who is yet to post a word since daypost. no preference among the AFKs, not a lot you can tell from how someone doesn't post. sqrt is the most likely plynch to go through but ff is not a bad option either. | ||
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On June 05 2016 10:21 QuickTwist wrote: OK, I feel like Jealous could be town or scum right now depending. If he is being honest in saying I am detriment to Town then he is prolly town. If he is being dishonest, then he is just pushing an agenda. For that reason we need to find out the way Jealous plays this game. IIRC no one has meta on him? This is a problem. So I suggest people try to catch him lying and see where that leads. "if he's being honest he's town, if he's being dishonest he's scum" no shit what is your actual opinion on jealous | ||
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QT scumreading Skynx and Tictock Superbia townreading FF | ||
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On June 06 2016 00:48 QuickTwist wrote: He's not in my "I will never vote" list because I keep waffling on him. hm yes I see. in that case your town list is pretty solid. would still like to hear your scum reads. | ||
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On June 06 2016 00:50 QuickTwist wrote: yes that is kinda the point. See if scum think they can lynch me that means that I am safe from NK. Since I claim PR, I think you can see how this will be beneficial. this is a hard claim I assume? scum totally can lynch you, as evidenced by your leading wagon. and you won't avoid NK if you claim PR. pls just act townie if you're town. | ||
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On June 06 2016 00:58 QuickTwist wrote: OK once i can understand, but twice? WTAF?? A joke TT does not seriously think he's found the entire scum team. | ||
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tictock btdt jealous emperorsomething superbia fefe | ||
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kush scott skynx (this list is much worse than the other) | ||
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On June 06 2016 11:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: jealous, im officially appointing you townleader since ff doesn't want the job. kush pls you've got town leader extraordinaire right here | ||
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On June 06 2016 12:50 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Shitlist Ec Tt Tw Ff wow that is shit all of those people are town | ||
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On June 06 2016 13:04 Jealous wrote: God damn my OCD is kicking in really hard over this megadata dump that's coming. I'm also realizing how many of you guys play/joke around so much that it's hard to tell what you really believe. idk it's not that hard to notice jokes in this game "is he bad enough to really believe that" --> no --> it's a joke but yeah most of us are kinda lazy or don't act super serious or both | ||
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gonna have to convince me because I'm not really seeing it either way we're lynching skynx tomorrow (or maybe you or scott... definitely neither of emperor or tt though) | ||
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On June 06 2016 13:15 Jealous wrote: Would be nice to get explanations from either of you. it would, wouldn't it | ||
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On June 06 2016 19:04 Superbia wrote: TW can you explain your read progression on jealous? I thought jealous was scum for tryharding but it became less insecure-tryhard and more driven-tryhard. At this point I don't think he could ever be scum. | ||
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On June 07 2016 00:55 Fecalfeast wrote: How do you have 9 pages already super? damn you're right super has his town privileges suspended for spamming and having no thread presence | ||
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during holyf***e (scum) - spammed until we called him out literally infallible "super say something smart" | ||
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On June 07 2016 02:58 Superbia wrote: Ya read me mafia during night pls. yeah just dismiss it as false pressure probably going to pressure you tomorrow and see if you crack | ||
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pls neither of us ever die N1 | ||
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On June 07 2016 04:54 Superbia wrote: Tumble you were in last game in which I was mafia. Pls compare games you spammed until people consensus-scumread you and then you rolled over and died in this game you're spamming but not scumread | ||
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everyone whose name starts with s | ||
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On June 07 2016 06:39 Tictock wrote: I might be ok with that if we lynch in this order Skynx Scott Someone Else Someone Else ... Super Though if you are really feeling like there is some similarity between his last scum game and this game then you are free to make that comparison for us. The feels part (and of course this is all 90% feels) is that Super shouldn't be acting like he's super townie Also he's made more posts than his thread presence justifies | ||
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Also who points something out as a scum slip but just ignores it. Either it's a scum slip or it's nothing and you don't cast shade over nothing. | ||
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