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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 08 2016 22:37 GMT
#1439
On June 09 2016 07:29 Tictock wrote:
Yea we should be lynching Kush here guys. I'm not feeling any of these other lynches.

I will have to berate some people if Emp gets lynched and flips town.

Your defense seems almost excessive, considering he would still need 2 votes to be lynched.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 08 2016 22:37 GMT
#1440
On June 09 2016 07:36 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 07:32 Jealous wrote:
On June 09 2016 07:29 Tictock wrote:
Yea we should be lynching Kush here guys. I'm not feeling any of these other lynches.

I will have to berate some people if Emp gets lynched and flips town.

It strikes me as interesting that on both days you were the third to vote for the current ban leader. Jumping on the bandwagon?


Hey as long as the wagon has the proper furnishings. This one is feeling much more comfy than QT's so I have no inklings of hopping off it like I did his.

These lynches are pretty different tbh.

If they both flip town will you feel the same way?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 08 2016 22:45 GMT
#1444
On June 09 2016 07:41 Tictock wrote:
I was thinking of giving Emp a townread simply for not instantly moving his vote to Kush when the wagons were tied.

And while I'm not thrilled by this post
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 07:11 emperorchampion wrote:
idk, I'm so suspicous of both scott and kush

I just realized that kush was the first to post
On June 06 2016 11:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On June 06 2016 05:05 scott31337 wrote:
I still haven't gotten my role and I've PM'ed all three hosts phhbbt I have to vote though


On June 06 2016 05:20 scott31337 wrote:
Alright I finally got it I'm town

I kept thinking if I was mafia with QT and had already voted for him it'd be really bad lol


oh god this is so townie unfortunately.


Which was sheeped by pretty much everyone with basically no explanation.

Scum reads all heavily favoured towns (well aparently I don't fall into that category LOL)
On June 06 2016 12:50 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shitlist
Ec
Tt
Tw
Ff


This is fairly towny I suppose, but maybe pushing his own logic

On June 08 2016 08:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On June 08 2016 08:01 Jealous wrote:
On June 08 2016 07:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
i would kill BTDT still, yeah. That post where he game QT a pass for being active but then scumread jealous without mentioning his activity is still in my mind

But how would that make sense for a scum strategy?

The only plot that would make sense to me is that he knew QT would be lynched (should verify timestamp on this post vs. vote count at the time?), which is good for scum, so he wanted to bring me down once QT flipped town because I'd be seen as the major instigator of the movement, which is good for scum because I am town.

This actually makes sense, now that I think about it. However, it depends on the timestamp. I can't check it right now and I'll be home in a few hours but if someone can do that now it would give more credit to FF's theory, imo.

You are thinking about this wrong. Scum dont enact some plot. They just try to come up with stuff to say that looks as townie as possible. Most of the time they try to not lynch their scumteam.

Often scum will townread someone who is up for lynch, because they know that person is town, and their objective to look as townie as possible is compelling them to point that out.


Otherwise I don't find much in his filter. I think these are the posts with the most content, and I don't really see what he's pushing for here. A lot of blank reads with no justification.


He took the time to dig up these posts and post this before changing his vote from Scott to Kush.

What do you guys make of that? (assuming it's not just me and Jealous here atm)

I thought it was survival tactics.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 08 2016 22:49 GMT
#1447
How about the Skynx bandwagon that seemingly dissipated overnight?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 08 2016 23:00 GMT
#1454
On June 09 2016 07:52 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
When did you first scum read me Jealous? As far as I can tell a few hours ago, what purpose does it serve town to hold that information over a day?


On June 09 2016 07:51 Tictock wrote:
Well w/e it seems like it's just the 3 of us here anyways, so not much else to do but wait it out.

I don't get where Jealous is coming from at all anymore. Given his last reads post an hour or so ago he seemed to be far more suspect of Kush than Emp, and he claimed that he was fairly certain I was town. Yet none of his actions or posts since that reflect those views. If kush flips scum I think Jealous should be the lynch tomorrow.

This was the idea - "shenannis" or whatever seem to be popular. I would make the vote a closer contest, potentially drawing more votes to EC. Depending on the flop, these votes would be suspect. I wait until the last second to switch to kush, effectively giving my vote double the strength in this scenario.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 08 2016 23:34 GMT
#1467
Well, that didn't go as expected. I honestly thought kush would have flipped red and I'd have something to work off of. So far this to me just points that Scott is most likely town. Emperorchampion trying to save his own hide can go either way. The other votes could be more suspect. I particularly didn't like Tictock's defensiveness that I was probing. Will have to look back at some things.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 08 2016 23:37 GMT
#1468
On June 09 2016 08:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 07:29 Tictock wrote:
Yea we should be lynching Kush here guys. I'm not feeling any of these other lynches.

I will have to berate some people if Emp gets lynched and flips town.

go bury yourself in a hole of shame Tictock. Worst part is you're probably town too.

Why do you think so?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 09 2016 00:10 GMT
#1471
On June 09 2016 09:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 05:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Meh, I don't know who to vote for. Should we just lynch kush and if he flips town kill Skynx?

Are we gonna go with this for D3?

I fail to see the connection between the two. If anyone, I'd vote Tictock right now.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 09 2016 00:35 GMT
#1474
On June 09 2016 09:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 09:10 Jealous wrote:
On June 09 2016 09:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 09 2016 05:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Meh, I don't know who to vote for. Should we just lynch kush and if he flips town kill Skynx?

Are we gonna go with this for D3?

I fail to see the connection between the two. If anyone, I'd vote Tictock right now.

Was his behavior suspicious at EoD? Like when you were present and reading his posts at that time.

I found him adamantly defending EC to be suspicious. There is a possibility he was trying to find inconsistencies in my play and thus went that route. However, I have to go by what I know: we lynched town today, Tictock defended an unknown and pushed hard for kush.

On June 09 2016 09:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, if we're going to momentarily assume that Tictock is scum. Why would he draw so much attention to himself with shenannies at EoD? What would have been his goal at that time?

Note: This isn't me questioning you because I think you're Mafia, I just think this is a decent learning opportunity.


Apparently shenannies are SOP around here. I was waved off almost dismissively when I brought it up, although they admitted it was a bad look. However, who here voted for any of the people who shenannied on Day 1? No one. Not much was spoken about it anywhere. Also, Tictock never shennanied, unless I missed something.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 09 2016 01:48 GMT
#1481
Tictock didn't switch votes, am I just misunderstanding the meaning of shennanie?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 09 2016 01:49 GMT
#1482
Also it never made me switch my vote, I was going to vote kush from the jump. I voted EC to draw reactions. I switched to kush in respect to my original thought processes, which were again wrong ;;
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 09 2016 07:00 GMT
#1486
And just like that, the game slows down. Kush didn't post as much as many others but not as little as some, but the eerie quiet is uncanny. I truly wonder, what is going through the heads of people now.

Can I get some thoughts from everyone? As in, what do you think of how the last two days went and what can be done better? For the town to succeed, something has to change about how we operate. I'm not experienced enough what that change should be, but as it is going now, we will be down 4 townies in 2 day/nights. That makes us 6 to 3 come Day 3, if we assume that a replacement will be made for BC. That's not a good place to be in.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 09 2016 07:01 GMT
#1487
I'm not experienced enough to know**
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 09 2016 09:39 GMT
#1503
@Superbia the sad thing is we're not sure if any of those roles even exist ( _ _
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 09 2016 09:40 GMT
#1504
The above face should have been like ( _ _ ; )
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 09 2016 10:11 GMT
#1506
On June 09 2016 19:06 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 18:39 Jealous wrote:
@Superbia the sad thing is we're not sure if any of those roles even exist ( _ _


There are two. Everyone but medic should prob claim tomorrow depending on whether we lose prs in night.

Why? Doesn't that make it all-too-easy for scum? Do you mean that in desperation we have to coordinate PRs publicly in the scum's eyes? I'm guessing detective would reveal what he has found out by now (but how would we know he really is detective?), and what would vet be good for in that situation anyway?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 09 2016 11:10 GMT
#1510
On June 09 2016 20:03 Superbia wrote:
Because we need the info. Do not claim during the night. Except at 5s to EoD or something.

So let's say a vet and a detective claim. What would we do from that point on? There is a very limited amount of possibilities, might as well strategize now if this is the plan?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 09 2016 11:11 GMT
#1511
What if multiple people claim the same role? Would posting first be given any weight, given the disparity of people's sleep schedules?

I just don't see how this works out in town's favor or how it would be manageable.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 09 2016 18:03 GMT
#1517
1. What are cc wars?

2. No one has explained yet why revealing to the mafia who the blue PR roles are has any benefit to the town whatsoever.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 09 2016 19:09 GMT
#1522
On June 10 2016 03:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
If a blue claims and nobody counterclaims we can't know if it's a real claim until a second blue claims. If two blues claim and nobody counterclaims (either with a third blue role or the same as one of the claimers) we can assume that both blue roles are town eliminating two people from the lynch pool and effectively controlling the nightkills from mafia.

Claim wars is when mafia decides to risk counterclaiming with hopes of getting the blue role(s) lynched first. In the situation we are in it is fairly likely mafia will try to counter in this way as a failed counterclaim(mafia claimer is lynched) mafia still has two members.

That being said I think mafia has been sitting pretty all game and we need to start looking into people who seem towny.

Why would two people claiming be any less suspect than one person claiming? They could both be lying. Say PR1 claims, PR2 claims, but PR1 actually belongs to someone else. Then "claim wars" start where the actual PR1 claimed after the fake PR1 and how would we know the difference? There is no tangible way, as far as I see it. I almost want to say that it is a ploy by Superbia and EC to expose the influential PRs, because scum would be the only ones that know whether or not the person claiming is scum or not and thus would be much more valuable information to them than the town. However, I will wait to hear a more detailed explanation from Superbia and EC.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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