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Canada11355 Posts
On June 04 2016 19:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
Also, following up on Tumblewood's post about QT and Jealous: if I simply follow the reads that I did so far without looking at Jealous' filter (which I haven't done yet), my logical conclusion should be that Jealous is scum. Here is my thought process about that:
1. I townread Tumblewood.
2. Tumblewood thinks that between QT and Jealous, one is scum.
3. I townread QT.
That makes Jealous scum (only if Tumblewood's thought is correct which, of course, is not granted). I am going to look at Jealous more detailed.
So this post is after his larger post where he says
Also, I like QuickTwist, also for the great activity. The fact that he votes Tumblewood because he gives him a townread ("I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?") makes me think he's town.
It almost feels like he's saying he townreads QT just because he townread him earlier. The reasoning for qts townread can just as easily be applied to jealous except jealous didn't vote someone for townreading him.
Since you asked for context jellybean
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Meh nothing interesting since I left.
On June 08 2016 08:27 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 08:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On June 08 2016 08:01 Jealous wrote:On June 08 2016 07:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
i would kill BTDT still, yeah. That post where he game QT a pass for being active but then scumread jealous without mentioning his activity is still in my mind But how would that make sense for a scum strategy? The only plot that would make sense to me is that he knew QT would be lynched (should verify timestamp on this post vs. vote count at the time?), which is good for scum, so he wanted to bring me down once QT flipped town because I'd be seen as the major instigator of the movement, which is good for scum because I am town. This actually makes sense, now that I think about it. However, it depends on the timestamp. I can't check it right now and I'll be home in a few hours but if someone can do that now it would give more credit to FF's theory, imo. You are thinking about this wrong. Scum dont enact some plot. They just try to come up with stuff to say that looks as townie as possible. Most of the time they try to not lynch their scumteam. Often scum will townread someone who is up for lynch, because they know that person is town, and their objective to look as townie as possible is compelling them to point that out. That's kind of my point in him townreading QT when they know he is town, but wouldn't it make sense for him to throw doubts on my participation in QT's lynching to get me lynched as a reactive measure in Day 2 even though I am town? I don't see why scum wouldn't enact that plot, or at least have one of them do so. At the time of my compiling the data on page 55 if I recall correctly, I was one of the most scumread players in the game. Even though Skynx seems to be up for lynching based on the posts of Night/Day 2, I can't help but feel that I was also cast in a bad light and this would be advantageous to scum.
Can you clarify what you mean here, I'm just not sure what part is advantageous to scum? Also how does that relate to Skynx?
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Anyhow I'm off for the night, cya nerds later
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On June 08 2016 11:04 emperorchampion wrote:Meh nothing interesting since I left. Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 08:27 Jealous wrote:On June 08 2016 08:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On June 08 2016 08:01 Jealous wrote:On June 08 2016 07:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
i would kill BTDT still, yeah. That post where he game QT a pass for being active but then scumread jealous without mentioning his activity is still in my mind But how would that make sense for a scum strategy? The only plot that would make sense to me is that he knew QT would be lynched (should verify timestamp on this post vs. vote count at the time?), which is good for scum, so he wanted to bring me down once QT flipped town because I'd be seen as the major instigator of the movement, which is good for scum because I am town. This actually makes sense, now that I think about it. However, it depends on the timestamp. I can't check it right now and I'll be home in a few hours but if someone can do that now it would give more credit to FF's theory, imo. You are thinking about this wrong. Scum dont enact some plot. They just try to come up with stuff to say that looks as townie as possible. Most of the time they try to not lynch their scumteam. Often scum will townread someone who is up for lynch, because they know that person is town, and their objective to look as townie as possible is compelling them to point that out. That's kind of my point in him townreading QT when they know he is town, but wouldn't it make sense for him to throw doubts on my participation in QT's lynching to get me lynched as a reactive measure in Day 2 even though I am town? I don't see why scum wouldn't enact that plot, or at least have one of them do so. At the time of my compiling the data on page 55 if I recall correctly, I was one of the most scumread players in the game. Even though Skynx seems to be up for lynching based on the posts of Night/Day 2, I can't help but feel that I was also cast in a bad light and this would be advantageous to scum. Can you clarify what you mean here, I'm just not sure what part is advantageous to scum? Also how does that relate to Skynx?
The advantage to town would be that the town lynches 2 townies (QT and myself). This has nothing to do with Skynx.
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I'd actually like to know why BtDt gave FF a townread for shenanigans onto him...
and why I did the same thing but was just a null read
+ Show Spoiler +On June 06 2016 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote:
Given that Fecalfeast tried to initiate shenanigans makes me townread him. Since QT flipped town, there was absolutely no need for scum to try shenanigans. There were no other wagon on its way, so the mislynch must have been safe.
It is interesting to note that I ended up with two votes, due to the attempted shenanigans. I'm wondering why, I don't think I appear too scummy and I think I should definitely be part of any town circle that there is. I am easily readable, I try to establish my thought processes, and I kept my vote on MoosyDoosy: noone confirmed the meta/"is he able to emulate his town meta" question yet (besides himself). Also, his vote made the difference: shenanigans could've worked if he wouldn't have been the 5th guy to vote QT.
As a further note, Tumblewood still feels very townie to me. So I'll form my own town circle containing Superbia, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jealous and myself (I have to review Superbia though, I don't remember much from the end of D1 that I really liked. Still town pile, though). Following that pattern, we could easily have all three scum players on QuickTwist. Removing Jealous as my town read, it comes down to:
Skynx, emperorchampion, scott31337, MoosyDoosy
Of those four players, scott had two votes cast on him, temporarily three due to the QT vote. That might have triggered MoosyDoosy to finalize the wagon of QT. What do you think about scott and MoosyDoosy, guys? I feel like I might have found a connection here. While it's not enough for a lynch IMHO, it should be enough to justify a potential power role action. One should examine those guys at night very closely.
I think it's too early to completely go by process of elimination - but I strongly suggest to not lynch outside of those players as the chance of having one or more scummers among those four bolded lads is very high.
My nulls (i.e. todos) are thekushmountains and Tictock.
I still want to keep my vote on Kush though kus he doesn't seem like he cares and I remember town Kush giving a shit.
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On June 08 2016 11:36 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 11:04 emperorchampion wrote:Meh nothing interesting since I left. On June 08 2016 08:27 Jealous wrote:On June 08 2016 08:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On June 08 2016 08:01 Jealous wrote:On June 08 2016 07:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
i would kill BTDT still, yeah. That post where he game QT a pass for being active but then scumread jealous without mentioning his activity is still in my mind But how would that make sense for a scum strategy? The only plot that would make sense to me is that he knew QT would be lynched (should verify timestamp on this post vs. vote count at the time?), which is good for scum, so he wanted to bring me down once QT flipped town because I'd be seen as the major instigator of the movement, which is good for scum because I am town. This actually makes sense, now that I think about it. However, it depends on the timestamp. I can't check it right now and I'll be home in a few hours but if someone can do that now it would give more credit to FF's theory, imo. You are thinking about this wrong. Scum dont enact some plot. They just try to come up with stuff to say that looks as townie as possible. Most of the time they try to not lynch their scumteam. Often scum will townread someone who is up for lynch, because they know that person is town, and their objective to look as townie as possible is compelling them to point that out. That's kind of my point in him townreading QT when they know he is town, but wouldn't it make sense for him to throw doubts on my participation in QT's lynching to get me lynched as a reactive measure in Day 2 even though I am town? I don't see why scum wouldn't enact that plot, or at least have one of them do so. At the time of my compiling the data on page 55 if I recall correctly, I was one of the most scumread players in the game. Even though Skynx seems to be up for lynching based on the posts of Night/Day 2, I can't help but feel that I was also cast in a bad light and this would be advantageous to scum. Can you clarify what you mean here, I'm just not sure what part is advantageous to scum? Also how does that relate to Skynx? The advantage to town would be that the town lynches 2 townies (QT and myself). This has nothing to do with Skynx.
Advantage to scum** EDWOP
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Jealous who do you think we should lynch today?
also...
I feel like 3/4 of the game has barely posted or even voted. This needs to change.
After missing the mark fairly badly D1 we need to pick this game up.
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On June 08 2016 15:42 Tictock wrote:
Jealous who do you think we should lynch today?
also...
I feel like 3/4 of the game has barely posted or even voted. This needs to change.
After missing the mark fairly badly D1 we need to pick this game up.
I'm still not sure. I was going to see how the other votes and reads pan out as we approach the deadline, because apparently a lot of stuff happens then. This game has been confusing in general - Skynx has had the strongest scumread bandwagon, whereas kush has had the strongest lynch vote bandwagon, simply wtf?
I like how you said "who do you think we should lynch today" as if I actually am town leader. I probably have less of a clue about what is going on than any of you. Based on what my vague retrospect ("gut") without going in-depth on any filters today, I would say that EC, BTDT, kush are all viable options, in decreasing order, with Scott being a potential mystery factor because so far none of his posts have struck me as very scummy but he also hasn't posted much so I can't say for certain.
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I'm gunna try something wierd...
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On June 08 2016 16:01 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 15:42 Tictock wrote:
Jealous who do you think we should lynch today?
also...
I feel like 3/4 of the game has barely posted or even voted. This needs to change.
After missing the mark fairly badly D1 we need to pick this game up. I'm still not sure. I was going to see how the other votes and reads pan out as we approach the deadline, because apparently a lot of stuff happens then. This game has been confusing in general - Skynx has had the strongest scumread bandwagon, whereas kush has had the strongest lynch vote bandwagon, simply wtf? I like how you said "who do you think we should lynch today" as if I actually am town leader. I probably have less of a clue about what is going on than any of you. Based on what my vague retrospect ("gut") without going in-depth on any filters today, I would say that EC, BTDT, kush are all viable options, in decreasing order, with Scott being a potential mystery factor because so far none of his posts have struck me as very scummy but he also hasn't posted much so I can't say for certain.
This has nothing to do with being a leader or not, it's a valid question regardless.
Still without looking at filters...
Why EC first? Or why is he most scummy?
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On June 08 2016 16:11 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 16:01 Jealous wrote:On June 08 2016 15:42 Tictock wrote:
Jealous who do you think we should lynch today?
also...
I feel like 3/4 of the game has barely posted or even voted. This needs to change.
After missing the mark fairly badly D1 we need to pick this game up. I'm still not sure. I was going to see how the other votes and reads pan out as we approach the deadline, because apparently a lot of stuff happens then. This game has been confusing in general - Skynx has had the strongest scumread bandwagon, whereas kush has had the strongest lynch vote bandwagon, simply wtf? I like how you said "who do you think we should lynch today" as if I actually am town leader. I probably have less of a clue about what is going on than any of you. Based on what my vague retrospect ("gut") without going in-depth on any filters today, I would say that EC, BTDT, kush are all viable options, in decreasing order, with Scott being a potential mystery factor because so far none of his posts have struck me as very scummy but he also hasn't posted much so I can't say for certain. This has nothing to do with being a leader or not, it's a valid question regardless. Still without looking at filters... Why EC first? Or why is he most scummy?
I realized I may have misinterpreted the phrasing but it was already too late as I had already posted.
I'm not ready to answer this question.
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On June 08 2016 11:36 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 11:04 emperorchampion wrote:Meh nothing interesting since I left. On June 08 2016 08:27 Jealous wrote:On June 08 2016 08:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On June 08 2016 08:01 Jealous wrote:On June 08 2016 07:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
i would kill BTDT still, yeah. That post where he game QT a pass for being active but then scumread jealous without mentioning his activity is still in my mind But how would that make sense for a scum strategy? The only plot that would make sense to me is that he knew QT would be lynched (should verify timestamp on this post vs. vote count at the time?), which is good for scum, so he wanted to bring me down once QT flipped town because I'd be seen as the major instigator of the movement, which is good for scum because I am town. This actually makes sense, now that I think about it. However, it depends on the timestamp. I can't check it right now and I'll be home in a few hours but if someone can do that now it would give more credit to FF's theory, imo. You are thinking about this wrong. Scum dont enact some plot. They just try to come up with stuff to say that looks as townie as possible. Most of the time they try to not lynch their scumteam. Often scum will townread someone who is up for lynch, because they know that person is town, and their objective to look as townie as possible is compelling them to point that out. That's kind of my point in him townreading QT when they know he is town, but wouldn't it make sense for him to throw doubts on my participation in QT's lynching to get me lynched as a reactive measure in Day 2 even though I am town? I don't see why scum wouldn't enact that plot, or at least have one of them do so. At the time of my compiling the data on page 55 if I recall correctly, I was one of the most scumread players in the game. Even though Skynx seems to be up for lynching based on the posts of Night/Day 2, I can't help but feel that I was also cast in a bad light and this would be advantageous to scum. Can you clarify what you mean here, I'm just not sure what part is advantageous to scum? Also how does that relate to Skynx? The advantage to town would be that the town lynches 2 townies (QT and myself). This has nothing to do with Skynx.
OK I see what you're saying, my tired brain wasn't reading things correctly last night >.<
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On June 08 2016 11:41 Tictock wrote:I'd actually like to know why BtDt gave FF a townread for shenanigans onto him... and why I did the same thing but was just a null read + Show Spoiler +On June 06 2016 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote:
Given that Fecalfeast tried to initiate shenanigans makes me townread him. Since QT flipped town, there was absolutely no need for scum to try shenanigans. There were no other wagon on its way, so the mislynch must have been safe.
It is interesting to note that I ended up with two votes, due to the attempted shenanigans. I'm wondering why, I don't think I appear too scummy and I think I should definitely be part of any town circle that there is. I am easily readable, I try to establish my thought processes, and I kept my vote on MoosyDoosy: noone confirmed the meta/"is he able to emulate his town meta" question yet (besides himself). Also, his vote made the difference: shenanigans could've worked if he wouldn't have been the 5th guy to vote QT.
As a further note, Tumblewood still feels very townie to me. So I'll form my own town circle containing Superbia, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jealous and myself (I have to review Superbia though, I don't remember much from the end of D1 that I really liked. Still town pile, though). Following that pattern, we could easily have all three scum players on QuickTwist. Removing Jealous as my town read, it comes down to:
Skynx, emperorchampion, scott31337, MoosyDoosy
Of those four players, scott had two votes cast on him, temporarily three due to the QT vote. That might have triggered MoosyDoosy to finalize the wagon of QT. What do you think about scott and MoosyDoosy, guys? I feel like I might have found a connection here. While it's not enough for a lynch IMHO, it should be enough to justify a potential power role action. One should examine those guys at night very closely.
I think it's too early to completely go by process of elimination - but I strongly suggest to not lynch outside of those players as the chance of having one or more scummers among those four bolded lads is very high.
My nulls (i.e. todos) are thekushmountains and Tictock. I still want to keep my vote on Kush though kus he doesn't seem like he cares and I remember town Kush giving a shit.
Yeah btdt really needs to show up and answer these questions
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Canada11355 Posts
Zzzzzzzzz why am i awakenso early lately
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Also I would like scott to show up and give his reasoning on reading Tictock as scum, I found it very nebulous. So many afks :/
At this point I would be willing to vote for scott/btdt/kush for begin afk, and particularly scott and kush since I'm giving them a scum lean.
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On June 08 2016 23:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Zzzzzzzzz why am i awakenso early lately
Watch Na'Vi v Alliance game 3??
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On June 08 2016 08:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 08:01 Jealous wrote:On June 08 2016 07:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
i would kill BTDT still, yeah. That post where he game QT a pass for being active but then scumread jealous without mentioning his activity is still in my mind But how would that make sense for a scum strategy? The only plot that would make sense to me is that he knew QT would be lynched (should verify timestamp on this post vs. vote count at the time?), which is good for scum, so he wanted to bring me down once QT flipped town because I'd be seen as the major instigator of the movement, which is good for scum because I am town. This actually makes sense, now that I think about it. However, it depends on the timestamp. I can't check it right now and I'll be home in a few hours but if someone can do that now it would give more credit to FF's theory, imo. You are thinking about this wrong. Scum dont enact some plot. They just try to come up with stuff to say that looks as townie as possible. Most of the time they try to not lynch their scumteam. Often scum will townread someone who is up for lynch, because they know that person is town, and their objective to look as townie as possible is compelling them to point that out.
Lol this is so not true. He could've just jumped on the train for easy mislynch.
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Moosy's vote is a good example for this btw.
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Anyway kush please show some defence man i feel like no one is even trying this game...
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On June 09 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote:
Anyway kush please show some defence man i feel like no one is even trying this game...
Don't know whether to read the lack of defense as scummy or townie ;-;
I'm gonna lean with scummy.
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