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On June 06 2016 13:04 Jealous wrote: God damn my OCD is kicking in really hard over this megadata dump that's coming. I'm also realizing how many of you guys play/joke around so much that it's hard to tell what you really believe. yeahhhh......one of the harder parts of TL Mafia but we actually do mean what we say except for you. On that bright note I'd like to claim doctor. :3 On June 06 2016 13:05 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Sorry ff isn't scummy. Hmmm this dude skanks tho... Seems really unatural how hedges his read at the end when he acted so sure for the rest of the post. + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2016 20:53 Skynx wrote: Good morning people! Not having much else to do I actually went through 3 pages of solid spam. I then also went to read QT filter: 1: Contentless town reads Including this one he made some town reads based on absolutely nothing, First 3 were kinda trying to get the game going but they don't benefit town as if you don't have some case on why someone is town why just claim them town, you're just promoting confusion. 2: Memes & one liners + Show Spoiler + 3: Ignoring valid posts that are making sense So tumble posted this about the spam His response: As town, why would you wanna lynch someone is trying to make sense, if you're serious that is. 4: Diverting attention by linking old stuff These are where he understands he's not making a lot of sense so lets bring up old arguments and create some diversion. Super wasn't serious and you should've read the guide already, these are irrelevant to the discussion where people actually started to scumread him. Please enlighten me if you think he has made 1 usefull/towny post. Even if you think he might be town, these constant flow of useless posts are last thing we need and lynching him would benefit town more than plynching an afk for now, i don't think he will make positive contributions later on. ##Vote: QuickTwist GODDAMMIT I wanted to lynch you but you go ahead and do that. | ||
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On June 06 2016 12:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Night moosey. Feel free to start finding scum any time now. good night !! I'm tempted to call you mafia for seeming to know quicktwist's alignment so well and it would make complete sense for you and jealous to be teammates but I'm not 100% sure on that read. Aaaand you're calling Skynx mafia which is one of my reads. hmph tumblew00d, beeentheeereeedoneeethat seem town. and shitfeast. oh and some tickitytock. i do like coffee too so i'm going with bikcafé. no idea about scotterino31337. he was town but that was be4 he got his role. there's superbia who i really really really really really really really really really really really really really want to kill but he looks town.  which leaves me with emperorchAmpi0n, skankyskynx as scum. oh and you and jealous are in a weird spot for me. :D It's the special place in my heart where everyone too scummy to be town and too townie to be blue are in. one thing i know for certain is that i'm not going to die tonight since i'm the mafia goon and i'm dealing out the kp this night. ALso i'm doctor so i'm gonna protect skynx. aaaand as veteran i have another life so i'm completely oK for this night. | ||
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On June 06 2016 14:39 Superbia wrote: I need to hire some people to continue my townie agenda in case I die. Who's up for it? On June 06 2016 14:39 Superbia wrote: I'll be back later today to look at the applicants. Work for now. Just to let you know I reaaaaaally dislike it when someone acts like this, especially in a newbie game. Sure a town leader role is needed at some times but you inflate your importance which is irritating and makes you seem pretentious. There's also really no need to make people be "applicants" for you and act like they're waiting for you or something like that. Just talk with people on even terms. I'm as much of a lynch candidate as you are. There's absolutely no need to act otherwise. | ||
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I’m sticking by my read that Jealous was town so it looks like that whole shitfest at the start of the game was TvT which was totally unproductive. :D Mafia is probably in one of the quieter players which unfortunately seems to be amongst the newer players. I do think that there is one Mafia in the veterans hiding himself very well but that will come with time. IIIIIII think we should go for Skynx. Not completely sure though and I’d have to read through filters again. | ||
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On June 07 2016 14:50 Superbia wrote: Jealous can you react to my scum read on you in less than 4 sentences? Lie. False. Terrible. Bad. | ||
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On June 07 2016 23:32 Superbia wrote: I'll read skynx' post later. Moosy pls explain why jealous is so town for you beyond any doubt that you're so willing to hard defend him like this. He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip? | ||
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On June 07 2016 23:56 Superbia wrote: That does not facilitate such a response. From what I recall, you have taken every opportunity to call him town throughout the game. Why? I absolutely did not take every opportunity.  Did you read the game? Mayhaps you'd like to take a look through my filter.What I did say is that both QT and Jealous were acting like idiots but out of the two, QT would have to be the Mafia. Looking at Jealous's behavior and his newbie slip at the start of D2, it looks like it's safe to assume he's town and put away the Jealous/kush tinfoil team. Just because I have a read on someone now doesn't mean I had it on them the whole game. Now would you care to actually read the game? | ||
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On June 07 2016 23:57 Superbia wrote: I can explain why I think jealous may be scum but tbh you can prob figure it out from my filter Yes, Jealous can be scum in multiple tinfoil situations and you can be unproductive by squabbling about it. Or you can actually focus on finding real scum than thinking of tinfoil situations. | ||
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On June 08 2016 00:09 Superbia wrote: Ok so you think both kush and jealous are town? Who's your mafia team? I already gave that. I'll suggest it again. Reading the thread might be a good idea. | ||
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On June 08 2016 00:11 Superbia wrote: Who's the scum moosy??? read the thread | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:11 emperorchampion wrote: So I'll take a shot at quicktwist's filter: A lot of reads, not sure where from. Purpose could be to create conversation. Seems towny, trying to get more information out of people. Taking the second level logic approach and scum reading superior. Overall agressive and bold claims. Agressive seems scummy, but seems risky to put yourself out so much early on. I can see the information seeking thought process, even if I don't agree with the overall thought process. Read: I'm thinking he's pretty town On June 05 2016 01:41 emperorchampion wrote: I took a look through Tumblewood's filter, since he seems like the only one posting anything of note aside from QT-pie and Jealsus (which is a cesspool I don't want to wade through). + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote: the folly in this is that no one "protects themselves from further inspection" by posting images instead of responses, nor is that "key for scum to do". qt should not be afraid of the pressure you are putting on him because it is weak pressure (in the sense that it is convincing no one else) and it does not help him avoid inspection. Here it looks like tumble is putting pressure on Jealous. This is based off of defense for QT, since he gave strong townread to QT earlier here: On June 04 2016 09:20 Tumblewood wrote: shitty early d1 reads that I shouldn't be making town: superbia, qt town lean: emperor null: moosy scum lean: jealous scum: [pending further posts] To which is commented: On June 04 2016 09:21 Tumblewood wrote: if asked to defend any of my reads right now I will only respond by saying "feels" So now that we've framed the context of the first post, I think that there are two ways of interpreting it: 1) He is protecting QT-pie 2) He's calling a bad play a bad play From the previous context, I would think former, but reading the following posts I think the ladder: On June 04 2016 10:47 Tumblewood wrote: what but why it's in town's best interest to look townie (except to dodge nightkills) so town doesn't waste a lynch on them On June 04 2016 11:31 Tumblewood wrote: his scumreads are founded in a mountain of evidence, but that evidence does not make anyone scum. I don't see how you can refute his reads as misled but then call them good and townie all of a sudden. townread suspended On June 04 2016 16:18 Tumblewood wrote: ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills). I don't believe that they could both be town, although if they were I will mock D1 relentlessly in postgame. I also believe that they could not keep up this stupid bickering for so long as partners. I'm leaning toward QT at this point for refuting everything Jealous says and then townreading him for it (pretty shallow townread IMO, there's more to the game than just how much you write that's semi-productive). Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment. 6/10 would lynch QT D1 and if he flips town lynch Jealous D2 or we could plynch sqrt and let their alignments become more apparent over time. In my mind, it seems that there is some sort of triangle between QT-pie, tumble and Jealsus. At first I was thinking that QT/tumble could be a pair, but "6/10" lynch is pretty strong against that, although maybe tumble doesn't think the QT vote will go through so he doesn't have to push it? Jealsus/QT-pie: there are 3 options: 1) both town, 2) town and maf 3) both maf. I think that 3) is pretty unlikely, seems like such a ballsy play to carry out those shenanigans. I think that 2) is more likely than 1). Jealsus/tumble: I think it's fairly well summarized from the post above: "ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills". Also: "Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment" So from this, I find that Jealous is a common thread in all of this, so I would be interested in hearing why he isn't maf, or what he is trying to accomplish aside from generating pages of noise against QT-pie. My towny read on QT still stands, and I think that tumble has shown some decent thought, so I think that I'm leaning town on him as well. Therefore, my maf read sits with Jealous since I want to see how these 3 players unravel. On June 06 2016 03:12 emperorchampion wrote: I'll check back in a few hours before the deadline, but for now my vote lies with QT | ||
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On June 08 2016 00:19 emperorchampion wrote: Hmm pretty convienient you left out this post: That post gives absolutely no reasoning as to why you voted QuickTwist when you came back. What brought about the abrupt read change? | ||
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