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QuickTwist
269 Posts
On June 04 2016 16:27 Tictock wrote: Lol. This response when you are currently pressuring me for reads ^.^ Keep reading the thread, there is some more logical discussion if you keep reading which might be more to your liking. Also, I have how many posts in this thread compared to your how many? Not the same thing at all. | ||
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QuickTwist
269 Posts
You're currently pretty null to me. Care to town it up a bit? | ||
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QuickTwist
269 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On June 04 2016 09:04 Tumblewood wrote: have you heard of "WIFOM"? it stands for "wine in front of me", in reference to some scene from The Princess Bride. this is what it means and WIFOM is about the most I'd say about superbia's early-early-early-D1 play. Most disappointing post of the game so far... I can't believe you don't know that scene from Princess Bride... | ||
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blkcoffee
35 Posts
I'll be back in the evening. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
This is a terrible post to townread someone by, but I def want to keep you around now. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
partially kus I've changed my mind about a couple of people, and partially kus I prefer to have seen posts from everyone I'll be at a party a large chunk of the evening tomorrow, but should be around plenty going into EoD. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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Jealous
10260 Posts
Probably because of analytic facility for a bot or something. Regardless, it's a rule so you should follow it or risk looking even more suspect because of the fact that you refuse to follow basic guidelines for play. | ||
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Jealous
10260 Posts
On June 04 2016 16:02 Tictock wrote: Oh hey, I didn't realize you were Russian Jealous. Thats cool, got a fair bit of ancestry from Russia on my dad's side. ... also a bit of a rare breed on the mafia forums (fairly UK and US dominated) Cheers! On June 04 2016 16:18 Tumblewood wrote: ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills). I don't believe that they could both be town, although if they were I will mock D1 relentlessly in postgame. I also believe that they could not keep up this stupid bickering for so long as partners. I'm leaning toward QT at this point for refuting everything Jealous says and then townreading him for it (pretty shallow townread IMO, there's more to the game than just how much you write that's semi-productive). Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment. 6/10 would lynch QT D1 and if he flips town lynch Jealous D2 or we could plynch sqrt and let their alignments become more apparent over time. Even molehills seem like mountains when there is no reference point - in other words, no other leads to go by. Glad you are open about your personal bias against words longer than 5 letters. Should I assume you fall into the redneck category on that scale of yours? | ||
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Jealous
10260 Posts
On June 04 2016 16:49 blkcoffee wrote: I have work soon and I can't bring myself to read through all of Jesus's huge posts. I'll be back in the evening. Let Jesus into your life, my friend. Don't let fear get in the way of faith. If you want to read one post that summarizes my stance on Day 1 so far, it would be this one: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/508622-newbie-mafia-xxi?page=27#521 The rest is bickering, clarification, etc. | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
Also, I like QuickTwist, also for the great activity. The fact that he votes Tumblewood because he gives him a townread ("I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?") makes me think he's town. However that brought me to filtering Tumblewood. The first two pages of his filter are useless. No pushes, no reads, nothing even remotely readable, which, for me, is mafia indicative. Well, page 3 is much better, and I like this line of thoughts: On June 04 2016 11:31 Tumblewood wrote: his scumreads are founded in a mountain of evidence, but that evidence does not make anyone scum. I don't see how you can refute his reads as misled but then call them good and townie all of a sudden. townread suspended So I'd also note Tumblewood as town. Besides the players that have not posted yet or do have a very low post activity, my strongest mafia read as of now is MoosyDoosy. His posts do not make sense, they feel rushed, "activity for the sake of activity" to appear townie, and they're partially total offtopic (see the post about CRISPR). Voting himself, while even against the rules afaik, and spitting out a big post: + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2016 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote: BOI I GOT THIS lmaoo this is actually pretty tru  that won't happen w/ this player list. The vets will be too busy squabbling over each other about how someone used emoticons or something while Mafia will get away. :D Basically: competition =/= good at game. It just means we shit on each other a lot more. I'd like to hard claim Mafia mmmmmmmmm veteran or mafia veteran or mafia or mafia veteran or mafia or mafia or mafia He is just confusing. There is no straight pattern, and I cannot see a goal that he tries to follow. All he does is stirring up chaos, then disappearing. I think he is scum. ##vote MoosyDoosy | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
1. I townread Tumblewood. 2. Tumblewood thinks that between QT and Jealous, one is scum. 3. I townread QT. That makes Jealous scum (only if Tumblewood's thought is correct which, of course, is not granted). I am going to look at Jealous more detailed. | ||
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nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
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nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
It seems really counter intuitive to call someone to wrote so much scum. I mean he wrote so much that I stopped reading him and assumed he's town. Are you guys actually still reading qt vs jealous? | ||
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Jealous
10260 Posts
On June 04 2016 19:09 beentheredonethat wrote: Also, following up on Tumblewood's post about QT and Jealous: if I simply follow the reads that I did so far without looking at Jealous' filter (which I haven't done yet), my logical conclusion should be that Jealous is scum. Here is my thought process about that: 1. I townread Tumblewood. 2. Tumblewood thinks that between QT and Jealous, one is scum. 3. I townread QT. That makes Jealous scum (only if Tumblewood's thought is correct which, of course, is not granted). I am going to look at Jealous more detailed. I'm not going to argue with what you've already admitted is highly conditional reasoning, but if your faith in Tumblewood is so great then you should check this post: On June 04 2016 16:18 Tumblewood wrote: ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills). I don't believe that they could both be town, although if they were I will mock D1 relentlessly in postgame. I also believe that they could not keep up this stupid bickering for so long as partners. I'm leaning toward QT at this point for refuting everything Jealous says and then townreading him for it (pretty shallow townread IMO, there's more to the game than just how much you write that's semi-productive). Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment. 6/10 would lynch QT D1 and if he flips town lynch Jealous D2 or we could plynch sqrt and let their alignments become more apparent over time. In here he says that his suspicion lies on QuickTwist, which somewhat debunks your line of reasoning because your townreads would be only 50% accurate. | ||
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Jealous
10260 Posts
On June 04 2016 19:49 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Qt and jealous. Activity is good to an extent but you guys are being really anti town with your one on one spam. No one is going to read it. Pleaase consolidate your points and talk stop just talking to each other, I was met with the same criticism not long ago and made this post an hour ago: On June 04 2016 18:18 Jealous wrote: If you want to read one post that summarizes my stance on Day 1 so far, it would be this one: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/508622-newbie-mafia-xxi?page=27#521 The rest is bickering, clarification, etc. Whether you read the rest or not is up to you and your level of dedication. I was simply pursuing what I find to be a legitimate lead, which has led me to construct the following points on why I believe QT is a good vote for Day 1:: 1. QT's posts, on average, lack substance (failing to answer questions, using memes as answers, dodgy responses in general, no analysis presented to substantiate claims). 2. QT voted for one person, then claimed to vote for another in this thread while making a vote post in the voting thread that did not corroborate his verbal stance, all while not even using the proper format for unvoting so therefore there is a strong possibility that he is intentionally misleading people. There are more but I don't want to be too long-winded yet again. | ||
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nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On June 04 2016 19:05 beentheredonethat wrote: Hello guys, I caught up. There's a lot already to read into. Based on continuous activity, "careless/fearless" pushes and cool refinements of thoughts, I think Superbia is town and we should regard his thoughts a lot. Almost every single page we currently have contains a post of him, and while initial posts might be banter, I can say that from my experience that starting a game is always kind of rough to do. Also, I like QuickTwist, also for the great activity. The fact that he votes Tumblewood because he gives him a townread ("I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?") makes me think he's town. However that brought me to filtering Tumblewood. The first two pages of his filter are useless. No pushes, no reads, nothing even remotely readable, which, for me, is mafia indicative. Well, page 3 is much better, and I like this line of thoughts: So I'd also note Tumblewood as town. Besides the players that have not posted yet or do have a very low post activity, my strongest mafia read as of now is MoosyDoosy. His posts do not make sense, they feel rushed, "activity for the sake of activity" to appear townie, and they're partially total offtopic (see the post about CRISPR). Voting himself, while even against the rules afaik, and spitting out a big post: + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2016 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote: BOI I GOT THIS lmaoo this is actually pretty tru that won't happen w/ this player list. The vets will be too busy squabbling over each other about how someone used emoticons or something while Mafia will get away. :D Basically: competition =/= good at game. It just means we shit on each other a lot more. I'd like to hard claim Mafia mmmmmmmmm veteran or mafia veteran or mafia or mafia veteran or mafia or mafia or mafia He is just confusing. There is no straight pattern, and I cannot see a goal that he tries to follow. All he does is stirring up chaos, then disappearing. I think he is scum. ##vote MoosyDoosy What if I were to tell you that moosy always plays like that as town? | ||
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Jealous
10260 Posts
On June 04 2016 19:53 Jealous wrote: I'm not going to argue with what you've already admitted is highly conditional reasoning, but if your faith in Tumblewood is so great then you should check this post: In here he says that his suspicion lies on QuickTwist, which somewhat debunks your line of reasoning because your townreads would be only 50% accurate. EBWOP 33% accurate if you consider your analysis on Superbia, which I found to be factually faulty as he most certainly does not have a post on every page. | ||
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nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On June 04 2016 20:02 Jealous wrote: I was met with the same criticism not long ago and made this post an hour ago: Whether you read the rest or not is up to you and your level of dedication. I was simply pursuing what I find to be a legitimate lead, which has led me to construct the following points on why I believe QT is a good vote for Day 1:: 1. QT's posts, on average, lack substance (failing to answer questions, using memes as answers, dodgy responses in general, no analysis presented to substantiate claims). 2. QT voted for one person, then claimed to vote for another in this thread while making a vote post in the voting thread that did not corroborate his verbal stance, all while not even using the proper format for unvoting so therefore there is a strong possibility that he is intentionally misleading people. There are more but I don't want to be too long-winded yet again. I really don't care if you wrote a summary. What you are doing now is bad for town. People are going to be discouraged to read the whole game and it's going to be harder to get a read on those people. Not every one has as much free time as you. Too much writing. Especially because it's mostly 1v1. | ||
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