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On May 04 2016 00:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: so you guys don't want to policy lynch palmar for not being here day 1? I'd rather not without knowing the reason. I think Shape said he had a slow start last game and got lynched for it too? | ||
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I also think going after Shape at this point is just plain bad. At first I thought Shape was a little too friendly with Kush and trying to parrot his opinions but after re-reading his filter that isn't really the case and I think he's made the best points out of any of us so far. So I dunno why out of everybody here he would put the two of us on a list together when honestly speaking we're on opposite ends in terms of contributions for town. That's somewhat strange. | ||
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I'm null on Marv and JAT as well although the way they both entered the game bothers me. It seemed rehearsed and the timing was too good. | ||
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And yeah I think it looks rehearsed. 18 hours into the game where neither of you have shown up "Oh man JAT hasn't posted yet he must be sick!" 5 minutes later "Ha Ha oh Marv I just came back from the doctor cause I'm sick". If you don't think that's some oddly good timing and an insane coincidence idk Considering there's almost nothing else to mention about the two of you to this point yeah its suspect. You also don't have to be lying about coming back from the doctor, it's very possible Marv knew and just waited for you to be around to put on a show. | ||
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That aside I was looking through filters saw Marv and JAT hadn't done jack all and figured I could pull them into the game a little bit more if I egged them on (as you are two of the names I recognize and somewhat understand to be good at this) but they had done absolutely nothing at that point aside from Marv not understanding a question mark's placement. So I went after the timing on you two both joining the game and your clairvoyance. As for your earlier question Marv I liked Shape's posts because he was at least trying at that point or seemed to be to get people into the game. As for knowing how you and JAT play. No clue. I recognize names but aside from Slam and Kush I've got no idea how anybody plays. Even them I have no recent knowledge but it seems fairly familiar lol ![]() | ||
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On May 04 2016 15:37 Alakaslam wrote: Yes. Indirectly enough though- I apologize. Do you glean more than you are saying here or no? @Slam were you trying to imply Tubesock is scummy based on town reads on myself and Shape based on how you and JAT were reading the game at the time? I'd like to know what else you were getting at here when you're around ![]() | ||
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I'm not sure about a Tube lynch. I see what you're saying but I'm not convinced that just because he's quick to label his town reads he's definitely scum. His reason for voting isn't too great and looking at the last thing he wrote, I have to head out for like 30~ minutes but did Marv ever actually say he thought I was town? I'm skimming but I don't see it. On May 04 2016 22:04 Tubesock wrote: Go ahead. You've wasted how many pages talking about this thing that you already said you're not gunning for Ricey. You have not scum hunted at all. The one thing you did was ask about a question mark. Even that you said you thought he was town before and after. talking about the bolded | ||
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ah ok I can't tell if you meant to say me but said Killing instead there but fair enough. Kush if we're going to policy lynch I'd rather it be Dr.P I'll copy JAT a bit here is there any reason to lynch Palmar over DrP or any of the others who haven't given us a reason for their absence? | ||
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I mean I see your point, maybe Palmar never becomes active, so we've lynched Dr.P and that's basically russian roulette given how many people haven't said anything and then we still have to deal with an inactive Palmar. I guess it's just a difference in opinions I'd rather keep the guy who gave a reason for being away vs the one that hasn't. | ||
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Between DrP and Palmar I'd rather see what Palmar says when he's able to play vs the uncertainty of DrP showing up. who knows maybe he'll come back if he's about to get lynched and we'll hear from him. | ||
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On May 04 2016 23:13 Fazers wrote: I want to lynch him possibly. Why do you guys assume I want to get this man killed? ![]() Just doing what I can to contribute lol, now I look like a fool. gives me mixed signals for what he's trying to accomplish. | ||
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##Vote: Etellex oh well, here's hoping he is scum and didn't just fail to provide an explanation behind his actions because he wasn't comfortable doing so. | ||
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On May 04 2016 00:55 marvellosity wrote: so why did you use a question mark when you were talking about what shape said had you genuinely forgot who it was in the 50 posts the game has? could you not have checked if you weren't sure? etc not really alignment indicative but it was pretty bad. For somebody who talked about reading comprehension he didn't look back at something that was only 1 page back? Alright. Distracts both Kush and Tube with something trivial and continues to not actually contribute by arguing with them for a bit. I dunno then calls me out on being mafia before voting for Tube because Tube calls him out (for a second time) for doing nothing before proceeding to go afk after placing his vote on Tube and doesn't come back till the lynch is over. like... what? | ||
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On May 06 2016 21:15 Killing wrote: I still have mostly the same reads. It's unfortunate that marv is BP because he was already obvious town. I think our lynches should be Ricey and Ettelex. There's no way I can't think Ricey is mafia. I personally thought most of his d1 was garbage and I was the only vote on him. I'm not down with the re-reading thing but I remember a few towns saying that he was indeed scummy. I mean I have to think that if he was actually town than some mafia would just BW behind me to get him lynched as I kinda wanted to kill him before you guys just went ham on tubesock for no reason. Point being is that I don't understand why nobody kinda agreed with me and tried to kill ricey when a few people thought he was scummy. Especially considering i'm a new player, I think it'd be super easy to just jump on board on me considering some may think I have no idea what i'm doing although for the most part that's true. Etellex's giant wall this day felt exactly like a post I wrote in my first scum game. It was like excuse, sorry, weak content. He's prob mafia too. Dunno who the last one is. Towns are: Marv Kush Shape Mig Fuck that guy: Palmar So you think I'm mafia, but tried to get Etellex lynched and by virtue also tried to keep Tubesock alive and briefly mentioned I wasn't sure about lynching him because I didn't have a good read on Tube (thought he was ok but people were making good points about him) On May 05 2016 00:40 RiceyKins wrote: Yeah thanks Slam you did answer my question in the other posts. I'm not sure about a Tube lynch. I see what you're saying but I'm not convinced that just because he's quick to label his town reads he's definitely scum. His reason for voting isn't too great and looking at the last thing he wrote, I have to head out for like 30~ minutes but did Marv ever actually say he thought I was town? I'm skimming but I don't see it. talking about the bolded and you're saying I'm a scum team with Etellex? I think you might be right that Etellex is scum but if you think I'm with him you're not looking at things properly. I could have stayed on Dr.P and have no reason to attempt to bus Etellex as supposed mafia. Why would I try to save somebody who is now confirmed town but up for lynch D1 and nearly break the balance (if Slams vote counted Etellex would have been lynched, or if Tube voted to save himself). Logically it makes no sense. | ||
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However you didn't just call both of us scummy. You called us both Mafia. Meaning you're convinced both of us are in fact mafia and not just town playing scummy / poorly. | ||
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you seem to have a good read on Palmar marv and I'm on board with his lynch based on your read but I still would be fine with lynching Etellex today as well. His recent posts have made sense to me though as in I understand where he's coming from in terms of trouble posting and style differences from Town of Salem to this... however I don't see that as alignment indicative but his actions are still really leading me to think he's mafia. Honestly right now it's because he said Killing attacked me for no logical reason when even I admitted earlier in this game On May 04 2016 10:58 RiceyKins wrote: I also think going after Shape at this point is just plain bad. At first I thought Shape was a little too friendly with Kush and trying to parrot his opinions but after re-reading his filter that isn't really the case and I think he's made the best points out of any of us so far. So I dunno why out of everybody here he would put the two of us on a list together when honestly speaking we're on opposite ends in terms of contributions for town. That's somewhat strange. So I can understand somebody coming after me quite well. Most of my hesitation on Etellex d1 was because we weren't able to see his thought process and how he came to his conclusions but now that we have I'm still not convinced that he's looking for mafia, it seems like he's actively just trying to survive instead of helping town. Do you still read Kush as scum Etellex? Who else other than Killing stands out to you? | ||
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On May 08 2016 03:09 Etellex wrote: Right now nothing I say holds water because of all the suspicion on me, so first I want to establish that I am in fact not scum before doing anything crazy. As for Kush, I do now think he's town. What is an interesting possibility is that Palmer actually is scum and when he is revealed it will appear obvious that I am, despite being town. I don't know why someone would go through all that trouble to kill someone who's going to get lynched anyways so I don't think this is 100% the case but in case he does turn out to be mafia I want to have this on record. I'm actually fairly happy you've come to this conclusion. I think how I feel about you might change depending on how Palmar flips because of what he's been saying as well. ##Unvote ##Vote ![]() I'm going to sheep Marv for todays lynch. I don't think a lynch on Etellex will yield much information even if he did flip mafia whereas I think Palmar's would. Plus the last couple of exchanges with Etellex + a Palmar mafia flip would actually lend me to believe Etellex when he says he's town. but that's getting a bit ahead of myself. | ||
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##Vote: Palmar lol | ||
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It's also somewhat semantics but he says he THINKS marv is town which we all know is almost guaranteed at this point. I have no issues saying Marv is town at this point. scum worries about wording to not let slip that they have information we don't. Even after the fact it could be that he's still in that mindset and wont commit to knowing marv is town. Unless for some reason the vet decided not to claim and is letting Marv organize a lynch but I find that highly unlikely. You've called him confirmed town yourself but Palmar chooses to keep him at the same level as you JAT, he thinks you're both town. also in the same post he says Sandroba would be the best lynch, votes for killing, and then says he has no information and has no opinion on me, sandroba(?), and Slam. Which again is odd. No opinion on somebody you strongly want to lynch. There's other small stuff as well but yeah | ||
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On May 08 2016 04:44 justanothertownie wrote: Why does Palmars read on me influence yours? Do you think he wouldn't townread a fellow scummer like that or what? I'd say it's less likely when he's being careful not to give away that he knows Marv's. | ||
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On May 08 2016 05:43 Shapelog wrote: He meant that Ricey (you) is more towny, therefore not sus. And only 1 person on the etell wagon is really sus towards him? hm? I thought Etellex just meant that because Palmar has been buddying him somewhat that if Palmar flipped scum it would seem like it would implicate him further and he didn't understand why he would bother doing it considering an Etellex lynch was possible anyway. I could be wrong but I think that's what he was saying. | ||
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On May 06 2016 18:35 Palmar wrote: Like to be completely fair, my plan through most of day 1 was to sheep jat. he's being mean now though so pls. this is the type of stuff I was talking about earlier as well JAT. If he knew your alignment it's pretty safe to try to buddy and sheep a town. On May 07 2016 19:55 Palmar wrote: Btw, Etellex is now my new friend. I don't trust slam as much. and this is why I dunno about Etellex anymore. Still not cleared I'm just not sure what to think =/ | ||
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yeah I'm alright with this plan. | ||
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On May 11 2016 02:32 justanothertownie wrote: I don't think we should use arguments like the "he would concede" one in this situation. I mean, I agree - it would save us all time if that is the team but he is a complete newbie. He might want to fight it out - he might just want to use this opportunity to learn what to do/what not to do the next time he rolls mafia. But yeah, I am not sold on him either. Seeing how today is going sandro is almost certainly mafia but to me it isn't obvious who number 3 is. It could be anyone out of Etellex/Ricey/Fazers/Slam/Shape as far as I am concerned. Killing has really fallen off a cliff too... to be fair it would be really strange for me (if I were mafia) to push for a DrP lynch over Palmar considering they were both mafia and I had other people I could have picked. like.. seriously weird xD | ||
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![]() anyway why Slam over Etellex? not that I disagree. the more I look it the more it seems Slam attempted to get the vote off Palmar and on to Etellex + Palmar's weird buddying up with him (Etellex) and the way Etellex looked at it and thought about it made some kind of sense to me so. | ||
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On May 12 2016 07:47 Etellex wrote: Can someone explain how cop works? I've been searching around for like an hour and I can't find any info. kush said that "killing came back town which means nothing" and I have no idea what that means. the cop can check one persons role each night (think sheriff). Godfather comes back to the cop as town if he checks him so now that only the godfather is left the cop's skill isn't very useful because everybody will return the night check town to them. | ||
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Also JAT the hell are you on about? On May 13 2016 02:21 justanothertownie wrote: Something weird is going on this game. Prior to today noone besides Mig really expressed any strong desire to kill slam over let's say Fazers/Etellex. And now everyone is just showing up to vote slam and leave and somehow he is #1 on everyones list. So by this I assume you mean Killing. Cause up to this point in the thread it's Mig and Killing. I asked Mig why Slam over Etellex but agreed with the sentiment because I'm less sure about Etellex but aside from that. Fazers switched to Etellex. Honestly atm I see it most likely that the last scum is between Slam and Fazers and maybe Etellex although I've changed my mind quite a bit about him but those are the only three. Killing imo is town. JAT imo is town. Mig town. Kush town. I'm town. I'm waiting for Slam to say ha ha it was all a joke Kush cmon man ofc you're town and try to lynch Etellex again though. or he is the cop and he's just being a dick ![]() | ||
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On May 13 2016 05:22 Etellex wrote: Wait, is it nighttime right now? Serious question, I lost track. rofl it's day right now. ![]() | ||
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I think he just gave up with that Kush thing. I dunno. | ||
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In your opinion is it just inexperience driving him to his conclusions? Cause I'm somewhat leaning towards that right now but it's not really telling of his alignment. I'm willing to bet he'd be playing the same way as both mafia and town at this point which throws me off. On May 13 2016 08:49 Etellex wrote: So the consensus is that it's either me or Slam? If that's the case then I may as well vote for him. ##Vote: Alakaslam I guess this bothers me. There's one scum left but rather than give opinions on any other players or try to reason it with a process of elimination he goes for a him or me reason to vote, but again given everything so far it actually fits how he's been playing. I'll say again currently I think it's between Etellex and Fazers but the complete lack of play from Palmar and DrP/Sandroba could easily have let somebody come in late into D1 and start to bus them so I want to make sure Mig isn't pulling one over on us. I think JAT is town, you're cop, I know I'm town. We should look at the Shape kill though with Slam flipping town. If Etellex really didn't understand what cop did and was trying to look it up and knows you were RB'd N1 as you claim I think he would have shot you. No way of knowing that but I would have. lol so I guess that's a long way of saying I think I'm leaning more towards Fazers than Etellex atm. Fazers has also been on Etellex all game, would Palmar implicate Etellex as well as scum? He soft defended him almost every time he brought him up and eventually just On May 07 2016 19:55 Palmar wrote: Which post is actually scummy jat? Btw, Etellex is now my new friend. I don't trust slam as much. Also, someone somewhere said I was townreading marv on day 1. That's not really true, I just prefer to not call him mafia until I have a reason to to make my life easier. Killing still sounds overly hostile and annoyed. he's probably mafia. | ||
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JAT what do you think the chances are of Mig being the last mafia and just bussing the hell out of Palmar and Sandroba? | ||
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Also I might be mia for most of today as I'm writing the recap for Epicenter and the finals are today but I'll try to check in between the games and hope the finals don't go longer than 5 hours lol Fazers can you lay out in detail why you think Etellex is the last mafia? I know you've said it since d1 but On May 06 2016 05:12 Fazers wrote: @Mig, Unlike Etellex, who posted I didn't want to vote for Tubesock without reason. At that point in time, he was clearly going to be the one to be lynched with how much time was left. I feel Etellex vote is based simply by following the majority. Scum blending in with town? this isn't much of a reason considering On May 09 2016 06:50 Fazers wrote: ##Sandroba RIP marv - thanks for your contributions. Although you didnt' like my filters :'( On May 12 2016 23:22 Fazers wrote: I'm not cop rofl but really, ##vote Alakslam On May 13 2016 02:02 Fazers wrote: ^ I wouldn't mind Etellex first, actually. He's been on my list to lynch since he first started posting. ##unvote ##vote Etellex | ||
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![]() ##Vote: Fazers Mig hopefully you're around tomorrow before the lynch and we can get your thoughts on this stuff ![]() | ||
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On May 04 2016 10:31 Fazers wrote: To address your questions: I want to lynch Killing possibly, he's making a bit of noise. I guess activity is pretty good early on to form initiative, but a lot of bold accusations imo. I don't care about people who are inactive in this game so far. It's been a little quiet. I have a strong opinion about Shapelog - imo he's a strong player from my observations. Thus I will not vote to lynch him on Day 1. However, that may change as days pass. ![]() we agreed his thing on Killing was kind of bad and didn't make him scum. He didn't want to go after the inactive players (turns out there were two mafia in Palmar/Dr.P in there and those were being pushed by Kush and Myself so it was likely if we did go for a lynch on the inactive players it would be one of them) On May 04 2016 11:09 Fazers wrote: Yeah I was just throwing it out there. I don't actually have any determination to make sure Killing gets lynched. However, why are the accusations not bold? He's making reads off such little information. He even admits he may sound like an idiot for not like a few posters on his list...it's baseless. Activity and making reads though is definitely awesome on his part though! he backs off Killing quickly and then On May 04 2016 22:49 Fazers wrote: ##vote Mig Happens to go after an inactive player that just happens to be different from Palmar/Dr.P I should add he was the only person to vote for Mig at any point in time and it would go with my theory earlier that I talked to JAT about where Mafia actually had no part in the tubesock lynch and that we just happened to lynch a fellow townie all by our selves. Fazers goes on to talk about killing but never actually addresses the Mig vote again and only says he should have voted for Etellex instead of him in retrospect after Tube flips town. then goes after Etellex for voting without a reason and sheeping people and as I've posted earlier all of Fazers votes have been the same if not worse. Am I making sense to people? | ||
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![]() but yeah he seems to try to label people for things he's been doing himself all game long. | ||
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we'll see how today goes and who gets NK'd though. ##Vote: No Lynch | ||
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Although his idea that I'm the last mafia and I've been bussing both Palmar and Dr.P/Sandroba since very early into D1 is kind of ridiculous but w/e. On May 04 2016 23:18 Killing wrote: It's ok man, I think you're a little townie. But only a little. Like just the tip amount On May 06 2016 23:57 Killing wrote: I'm basically on that exact same train except no real good read on alakaslam and I'm leaning a bit townier on fazers but very slight On May 13 2016 01:47 Killing wrote: I think that would be my plan. Evaluate meaning reach F3 and evaluate. I don't think JAT is particularly scummy but I'm pretty sure he's a good player and nobody in this game seems to have a solid read on him. I would only lynch him because I believe riceykins and ettelex aren't particularly strong so I think f3 wouldn't be too difficult. 1) Mig Town 3) Fazers Town 4) Etellex Evaluate 6) JAT Lynch 7) Riceykins Evaluate 8) Kush Town 10) Slam Lynch 13) Killing Town On May 17 2016 01:31 Killing wrote: Ah the classic concede. I knew it all along. ##vote Fazers he had been town reading him all game for no apparent reason and come time to lynch jumps on him after he's already given up for god knows what reason. Tried to push me when I was a pretty easy target but as soon as he realized nobody else was even interested he gave up and hasn't made another case since. On May 17 2016 02:51 Killing wrote: Nope because that would be against the rules. So if he is, he can kindly go fuck himself. this was all well and good but didn't really answer anything, not even once while we were on the way to lynching fazers did he say "hey wait I've got a town read on this guy and I've had it all game" I dunno it's either him or Etellex. I agree with Killing though Etellex does come off more towny as the game goes on, however his reasing for town reading him makes no sense as the posts he likes have come after Killing started to town read him. He starts to change his mind on him on the 12th which is even before this post from Etellex On May 14 2016 09:23 Etellex wrote: What makes this whole situation so difficult is that I most likely would play very similarly if I were mafia. If anything, I suppose I could bring up the point that I've talked about myself a lot, which is one of the things I don't really like doing as mafia. Of course from your perspective there's no way to verify that claim, so it's on me to bring up more reasons. I tend to be a lot more into mafia games when I'm scum because it's much more of an intense experience to have to carefully engineer my posts and replies in such a way that I appear to be town while simultaneously not giving away my allies. In my town games such as this one I tend to act more natural and relaxed, because I can somewhat rely on the fact that I actually am town to subconsciously write town-sounding posts. I think I've had a tone of "knowledge is power" this game in regards to investigating me. I have been very open with my thoughts and I have even acknowledged possible arguments against me. This is a very different post of mine from the rest, because at this time in the game I have much more of a responsibility to not get mislynched, so I'm going to start taking this more seriously and posting more like this. On May 05 2016 01:09 RiceyKins wrote: ah ok I can't tell if you meant to say me but said Killing instead there but fair enough. Kush if we're going to policy lynch I'd rather it be Dr.P I'll copy JAT a bit here is there any reason to lynch Palmar over DrP or any of the others who haven't given us a reason for their absence? I wouldn't be picking one of the other scum in the lurker pool to lynch D1, I would have gone after Mig/Fazers/Etellex if I were mafia immediately and thrown Dr.P in as an after thought instead of straight up voting for him. | ||
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But you never even tried to defend one of your town reads? | ||
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we never did get the answer to this by the way. | ||
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"Riceykins: 65/35 Townie. He's discussed me the most out of anyone, this is something I haven't really noticed until now. He also seems to think I'm scum, but he backs those claims up with reasoning. Seems to be reasonable, though." to wanting to lynch me possibly just because Killing brought it up and voted first. | ||
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On May 08 2016 00:19 RiceyKins wrote: hey look it's taken 5 days but Palmar admitted I exist. ![]() I'm not going to point that out myself JAT as a first interaction if I didn't want it to be noticed. also I've gotta say going through the confirmed town Mig/Marv/ and somewhat Kush none of them were convinced about you so idk where you're confirmed town is coming from on those votes ![]() but oh well stuck in this situation ##vote: Etellex with PoE, I really don't think it's Killing. And as I said before (like a week ago at this point) when Palmar put you at the same place as Marv I think that was telling. | ||
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On May 07 2016 20:20 marvellosity wrote: i still don't think jat is mafia, kush. it's not one of my super-i'm-sure-jat-is-townreads which is always right, but it's definitely stronger than my maybe-he's-town reads which usually means he's mafia. On May 17 2016 04:09 Mig wrote: I dont really have a better play that fazers. If one of the last mafia are ricey/killing/jat I would predict the town is going to lose this is what you were left with from them. Yeah super town JAT. basically 100% confirmed. | ||
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The fazers stuff is because I didn't want to lynch somebody without making sure, if I'm going to do it anyway I might as well make it public. Going on Etellex and voting for him is because he had done nothing to that point and was just coasting through the game (plus his horrible D1) so I was pressuring him with my vote. I was completely fine with the Palmar lynch as stated. Ummm yeah I was iffy on Mig when he joined but town read him / wanted another opinion though. I disagree with the identity thing I don't think it's overly important but w/e. and you and marv was me quite literally just trying to pick a fight and get you both more involved in the game. Hope you guys make the right decision cause if I die we lose. | ||
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