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On May 07 2016 02:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2016 02:54 Shapelog wrote:On May 07 2016 02:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
jat i didn't say those shouldn't be your scumreads. it was more like "do our scumreads worry you? cause they worry me" But you say that they are typically wrong, which means that you do not believe in what you are currently viewing them. But you continue on, and post another post with the list. And only remove Fazer because of something ulrealted. which makes me think you do not even believe the thing you sent to JAT. and you taught me, that if it seems someone won't believe his own reads, they are mafia. Which means your mafia, by your own reasoning. My reads are a best guess. I've POEd into that group of people. Maybe I towned someone like Alakaslam prematurely. I don't really have a strong belief that anyone is scum. I think my list looks too easy. That means it's unlikely but it's still possible. Some games are just easy.
So,
You POE into the that group, which consists of 4 people who matches the questions you asked JAT.
You ask JAT the questions
JAT responds
You get rid of Fazer. 3/4 meet it.
You also Have no belief that no one is strongly scum? How? You are scum reading Palmar, and voting for him before 3/4's of the other players have even voted? Yes you doubted your read, yet you come back to it, and still voting for him.
How is that guy not strongly scum in your eyes?
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On May 07 2016 03:02 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I am looking at the game in two different ways here.
One is based on townreads/scumreads. That has produced that list
One is based on the assumption that reads don't count for shit. That has made me skeptical about that list. Because if your picks are the picks that people are statistically the most wrong about, that makes you more likely to be wrong.
So you decided to look at the game in a way that counters the other way?
What does the last one even mean? Not to read at all, "Reads do not count for shit?" How are you even suppose to solve the game?
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On May 07 2016 03:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Remember that newbie you rolled scum in. That is me strongly believing something. You see the difference right?
I know very what allowed me to win that game. I also know that you were strong believing In Team that our reads were right like with Rels and the anger on D1.
So yes it is missing, which is why I do not understand why it is not here.
You have a person who you are voting for before 75% of the town has casted a vote. You orgnially voted at 10/12 people not voting.
So you had to be certain he was scum then.
The townie post happen
You have said that you changed your mind, and he is still scum.
Now you say no one is strongly scum.
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On May 07 2016 03:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2016 03:08 Shapelog wrote:On May 07 2016 03:02 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I am looking at the game in two different ways here.
One is based on townreads/scumreads. That has produced that list
One is based on the assumption that reads don't count for shit. That has made me skeptical about that list. Because if your picks are the picks that people are statistically the most wrong about, that makes you more likely to be wrong. So you decided to look at the game in a way that counters the other way? What does the last one even mean? Not to read at all, "Reads do not count for shit?" How are you even suppose to solve the game? well you can't rely on the second approach alone, but it helps you second guess your reads. Is this helping you get a read on me?
I had a read before this conversation on you.
It has gotten redder.
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On May 07 2016 03:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
just because i vote early doesn't mean im super sure. i think he's the best lynch right now is all.
What makes him better right now.
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And I am back
On May 07 2016 03:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
why would voting early necessarily mean I should be super sure?
IMO it shows that you have some certainty in a read, which means the vote.
But I've realized in the last hour, that that it is my opinion, and it is basically confirmation bias on my behalf.
On May 07 2016 03:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2016 03:17 Shapelog wrote:On May 07 2016 03:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
just because i vote early doesn't mean im super sure. i think he's the best lynch right now is all. What makes him better right now. lack of activity makes him a good plynchthe nk on marv, especially after palmar townread him nothing townie in what he's saying
I can say the bold for about three people.
The Night kill is prob. the most interesting thing about Palmar right now. It is possible that it is WIFOM, but it makes sense for Palmar in a way, according to Marv.
I prob just read his filter in a jiffy (well, a few mins. but you get it)
Anyways,
Kush, is there anything about sand and etell that are scummy for them other than lack of act, 3rd reason, and Etell's Emotations?
Also, since you think you could be wrong, who would you say is scum outside your lynch pool then?
I'm forgetting someone.......
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Oh yeah Fazer,
I forgot about him lol.
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On May 07 2016 03:53 Killing wrote:
I thought by default people don't like palmar
I used to like Palmar,
Then i asked him what rank damdred was, and never got a reply back. I asked 4 times.
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On May 07 2016 03:35 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
that seems too risky for alakaslam if palmar is scum.
he gains nothing due to his low influence.
he risks a lot due to the probability that palmar will be lynched.
Keep thinking about slam like that, and you make your brain drunk.
That guy loves WIFOM. Trust me, where do you think I get that from? He suggested we RB you for the WIFOM, and said MA was a good kill going into Lylo, when he was only 1 of 2 sus. people in XIX.
Not saying it isn't risky or nothing, just saying that he could still def. do it.
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On May 07 2016 05:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2016 05:12 Shapelog wrote:On May 07 2016 03:53 Killing wrote:
I thought by default people don't like palmar I used to like Palmar, Then i asked him what rank damdred was, and never got a reply back. I asked 4 times. palmar only talks to marv lol.
Bullshit,
I have about 10 reply's from Palmar. Some of the personal nature.
Some just say no.
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On May 07 2016 05:32 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
shapelog, will you vote palmar with us though?
Maybe, depends after a dive on him, and other people.
I want to see what he has done today. And the contexts of his posts.
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Maybe I vote you.
Who knows, I am full of surprises.
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On May 07 2016 05:45 sandroba wrote:
So far on page 24 people I like as town are Killing and kush for sure. I kinda cheated ytd and read pages around ~38 too and I know marv claimed vet and there is no real reason I see to doubt it so there are these 3. People I particulartly don't like so far are shape, fazer and ricey. Mostly null on everyone else so far.
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Can't wait for those juicy reasoning!
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On May 06 2016 18:46 Palmar wrote:
you being a pain in the ass makes you less likely to be scum and more likely to be arbitarily punched in the face jat.
pls relax. it's weekend coming, I'm still stuck at unusually worky work things (imagine... having to actually work at work), and I haven't read this game.
On May 07 2016 03:45 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2016 03:31 marvellosity wrote:
Because even if palmar is town, nothing he has done is 'so townie' not the point though, I know lynching me is a lot of fun, and I hate the fact that I can't be here to do the townie defense. Like it won't be a satisfying lynch.
On May 06 2016 18:34 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2016 12:18 Mig wrote:
Palmar is there any reason not to lynch you? You have played 8000 games surely 40 pages in you have at least some leanings on who is likely to be scum. As I said, I have been very much afk. I have barely read any people. I opened Etellex's filter yesterday because he seemded to be the alternative to the tubesock lynch.What I'm currently, roughly, working with is something like this: TownieMarv. The shot claim can be instantly counterclaimed if there are blues that contradict the veteran claim. Thus he's got to be town. Maybe townJAT. I had him as my biggest townread early on day 1, mostly because he had a lot of activity and didn't sound off. But now he wants to kill me for making jokes that he didn't get, which is meh. Mig, mostly for tryharding, I haven't gone back and actually read the case on tubesock, or his actual filter but still, sounds like he wants to do things. Etellex, mostly for just not really sounding like mafia nullkush. I don't know if his weird fascination with lynching me is just an excuse to actually do things. Shapelog, not read his filter, just noticed that his preferred way of talking about things this game seems to be to randomly troll whatever conversation is going on. no idea if this is the correct impression or if it actually means anything.
I am going to cross-check these posts with star wars, but these are posts that stick out to me. These are all after the claim and the formation of the wagon.
All his posts kinda just follow this pattern of "don't lynch me for X." be it time or not reading people or even being a uninteresting lynch. Feels like he is trying to get a way out, but not by posting anything. Just kinda like restating the facts.
On May 07 2016 00:38 Palmar wrote:
Here's another thing. I think we have to kill sandroba today if he doesn't start doing shit. Given the fact that there was no vigilante shot tonight (unless he was roleblocked?) there is a huge chance we're going to have to spend lynches cleaning up trash.
Sandroba/DrP are very much in the trash category.
I also would of included this one in the above quotes, but it is also true, so I kinda left it out.
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On May 07 2016 06:03 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2016 05:53 Shapelog wrote:On May 07 2016 05:45 sandroba wrote:
So far on page 24 people I like as town are Killing and kush for sure. I kinda cheated ytd and read pages around ~38 too and I know marv claimed vet and there is no real reason I see to doubt it so there are these 3. People I particulartly don't like so far are shape, fazer and ricey. Mostly null on everyone else so far. Can't wait for those juicy reasoning! What tipped me off was your entrance post. The other game I mostly ignored your posting because you were doing lenghy posts with a lot of fluf, but this game I'm reading them more carefully. So far you have a ton of useless posts with jokes, lists, useless commentary which I find quite similar to the game we played together wich you were scum. I'm gonna look into you town meta next to see what it looks like before I give my final veredict.
Mhmmm, I wanted to play town, and everything I say I am going to improve my town game before hand, I roll scum (true story 3/3 times)
You have fun with that. Also rolled scum in tortoise btw.
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What was my entrance post?
brb.
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And I am back,
Give me a min.
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I have a question.
On May 08 2016 02:06 sandroba wrote:
Unfortunatelly won't be able to catch up today so I'll leave my vote on marv's wagon. I did a quick scam on palmar's filter and see no reason not to lynch him, so there is that aswell. Hope you guys get it right.
##vote Palmar
Sands vote right? Reasoning bold and +
On May 07 2016 05:58 sandroba wrote:
Hmm Mig raises a good point about JAT/ricey and JAT in general, but appears instead goes after tube. I see that he is the one who started the whole tube ordeal, and although in hindsight it's easy to disagree with it I don't think he is mafia the way he went about it. He seemed to be one of the few really trying to find a lynch late into day 1, while most others seemed like they didn't care. JAT and Palmar I see both gave excuses as to not being a presence in the thread, but it wouldn't suprise me if at least one of them was mafia. I would honestly clump marv together here but luckly the vet event saved me the trouble of having to think about it.
My town so far mig kush marv killing. I'm kinda starting to come around on ricey. He does sound a bit townie in some of his posts.
His read on me.
On May 07 2016 06:03 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2016 05:53 Shapelog wrote:On May 07 2016 05:45 sandroba wrote:
So far on page 24 people I like as town are Killing and kush for sure. I kinda cheated ytd and read pages around ~38 too and I know marv claimed vet and there is no real reason I see to doubt it so there are these 3. People I particulartly don't like so far are shape, fazer and ricey. Mostly null on everyone else so far. Can't wait for those juicy reasoning! What tipped me off was your entrance post. The other game I mostly ignored your posting because you were doing lenghy posts with a lot of fluf, but this game I'm reading them more carefully. So far you have a ton of useless posts with jokes, lists, useless commentary which I find quite similar to the game we played together wich you were scum. I'm gonna look into you town meta next to see what it looks like before I give my final veredict.
Does anyone else feel weird about this? Somethings feels off to me in this, yet I cannot firmly say what it is.
It is like he has a stronger read on me than palmar. It could just be him voting for realistic wagon, and like he says later:
On May 08 2016 02:08 sandroba wrote:
Also it looks like people that I am suspicious of are voting on the counter wagon so my vote feels even better.
@killing I think you are town and you should prob move your vote. Etellex dude looks like lynch bait.
BUt then, if you look back at the reasoning (the big quoted post) He was comeing about on Ricey, still sus. on fazer, and Town on Killing. Interpet what you want on Rice, but he makes it sound that he finds townie things in his latest posts.
So, wouldn't that mean only 1 person he is sus. of is voting the counter wagon as well?
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On May 08 2016 04:40 Mig wrote:
I dont mind lynching sandroba. Someone can tell me if I am wrong but from my memory sand was always way more hardcore as town and didnt really like being mafia. I mean replacing in doing nothing then making the excuse that he forgot he was in the game feels like such bs. Who replaces and forgets in the span of less than a day.
Palmar if the correct lynch is sandroba why are you voting killing?
good point
From my own mafia life w/ him (2 games)
As Vt, he made big posts and etc.
As blue (and coming back into the thread after not being there for about half the phase (storm)) when catching up, he made bigger posts then he is now and IIRC he was pressed for time (don't quote me on it tho)
No clue as mafia.
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