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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 18:35 GMT
#452
I posted that question at the best timing ever ^^
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 18:42 GMT
#453
On April 16 2016 03:22 Fazers wrote:
Day 1 usually seems where users point fingers at one another, and for what reason?

I think we should wait for a Day 1 post before coming to a conclusion..it's kind of hard to tell who is mafia or not at this point. Just my two cents..

Weird. So you would prefer to lynch someone at random D1 and start looking for scum after that ?
You've ever played mafia before ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 18:49 GMT
#455
On April 16 2016 08:35 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 17:42 Palmar wrote:
I am happy with my vote. Rsoultin has 81% chance of flipping mafia here.


like wut this is after 3 posts. Maybe palmar just saw 3 town votes and decided to make up reasons to scum read her later lol

Why do you think this could be the case ? You know that Palmar can troll as town so this doesn't make him mafia. Plus rsoultin has only ever got 1 vote, which is Onegu's and a joke one.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 18:58 GMT
#456
Palmar is really annoying. Never lynching today though 'cause he's a total coinflip. He'll step up at some point if he's town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 19:00 GMT
#458
On April 16 2016 21:28 Superbia wrote:
Want to call gumshoe mafia but 1st post tryhard is at most NAI for him.

I don't understand your thinking there, 1st post is scummy and NAI at the same time ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 19:03 GMT
#459
On April 17 2016 04:00 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 03:34 Rels wrote:
On April 16 2016 01:53 Tumblewood wrote:
I managed to not notice my role PM for a day
It's only 8 pages though so it's okay

Didn't you have to confirm ?

Yeah but I never bothered to check when it started

It doesn't make sense. If you had to confirm, you should have known the game was starting at most the next day if everyone confirmed. Seems like a bad excuse to enter the thread late.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 19:05 GMT
#460
Superbia's spamming spree is awful. The 1-line posts with random reads and no reasonning. Very different from what I expect from town!Superbia.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 19:06 GMT
#461
On April 16 2016 21:55 Superbia wrote:
Actually why not.

##vote: rsoultin

Let's see what this brings.

Jumping on the easy wagon too. Superbia might be scum
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 19:13 GMT
#462
On April 17 2016 03:02 Superbia wrote:
Now: Palmar:

Town palmar would've taken a grip on the game already. Tbf the game is going pretty much nowhere this close to EoD (imo). It's very undirected. Town palmar takes control and leads a direction. The push on rso is not.

In fact, Palmar's push on rso indicates a plan. And from all my games with palmar, he always has some sort of planned d1 as scum. He makes up some sort of plan or method to determine who is scum or something similar. This push on rso seems the exact same way (though I do not know what it says about rso's alignment). Pre-planned.

His read on me adds on to the lack of town direction he's taken this game. As town you are usually aligned to the people who have similar reads. That's why it is not weird for me to half-flip on rso. The fact that Palmar groups us together cements this un-townie, overfocused mindset.

I encourage everyone to check out Palmar's scum games and look at his play d1 (specifically the ones I was in as well, I believe it was russia or titanic or something). It's pre-planned and lazy.

Now look at his town games. It starts off super lazy but he always picks up very quickly. Especially when the town has no leader (i.e. as we have now). He is nowhere this game. This some prepackaged bullshit plan.

##Vote: Palmar

What do you make of the fact that Palmar was lynched D1 as town recently for playing like that ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 19:19 GMT
#463
gumshoe 90% of your big post on tumble is narrative that doesn't prove anything. The last bit is good though. If Tumble is scum, it is because he focused all his energy on rsoultin and almost none on anyone else, after Palmar started to push her.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 19:37 GMT
#468
On April 17 2016 04:28 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 04:13 Rels wrote:
On April 17 2016 03:02 Superbia wrote:
Now: Palmar:

Town palmar would've taken a grip on the game already. Tbf the game is going pretty much nowhere this close to EoD (imo). It's very undirected. Town palmar takes control and leads a direction. The push on rso is not.

In fact, Palmar's push on rso indicates a plan. And from all my games with palmar, he always has some sort of planned d1 as scum. He makes up some sort of plan or method to determine who is scum or something similar. This push on rso seems the exact same way (though I do not know what it says about rso's alignment). Pre-planned.

His read on me adds on to the lack of town direction he's taken this game. As town you are usually aligned to the people who have similar reads. That's why it is not weird for me to half-flip on rso. The fact that Palmar groups us together cements this un-townie, overfocused mindset.

I encourage everyone to check out Palmar's scum games and look at his play d1 (specifically the ones I was in as well, I believe it was russia or titanic or something). It's pre-planned and lazy.

Now look at his town games. It starts off super lazy but he always picks up very quickly. Especially when the town has no leader (i.e. as we have now). He is nowhere this game. This some prepackaged bullshit plan.

##Vote: Palmar

What do you make of the fact that Palmar was lynched D1 as town recently for playing like that ?


if hes scum, then he probally thinks he can get away with this kind of play exactly because of his last game, as people will be less likely to kill him / :

The point is, outside his meta hes playing anti town and within his meta he could easily be town or scum as this kind of play is not at all hard to enact.


Agree. So he is a coinflip.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 19:41 GMT
#469
I'm OK to lynch:
Tumble for entering the thread late with a non believable excuse and being obsessed with rsoul, which would be the perfect lynch for mafia.
Superbia for being so his spree of posting reads with no explanation and not pushing anything. I think town!Superbia is more focused than that, like he was in his Palmar post actually, but the reasonning in his Palmar post is bad.
Maybe GB for faking activity when actually he is useless, needs to read his filter.
Maybe JAS for kinda the same thing, needs to read his filter.

These needs to be vigd:
Frizer
Onegu

I don't townread rsoul but I don't understand why she is scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 19:45 GMT
#471
What changed with Superbia ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 19:48 GMT
#474
On April 17 2016 04:46 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 04:37 Rels wrote:
On April 17 2016 04:28 gumshoe wrote:
On April 17 2016 04:13 Rels wrote:
On April 17 2016 03:02 Superbia wrote:
Now: Palmar:

Town palmar would've taken a grip on the game already. Tbf the game is going pretty much nowhere this close to EoD (imo). It's very undirected. Town palmar takes control and leads a direction. The push on rso is not.

In fact, Palmar's push on rso indicates a plan. And from all my games with palmar, he always has some sort of planned d1 as scum. He makes up some sort of plan or method to determine who is scum or something similar. This push on rso seems the exact same way (though I do not know what it says about rso's alignment). Pre-planned.

His read on me adds on to the lack of town direction he's taken this game. As town you are usually aligned to the people who have similar reads. That's why it is not weird for me to half-flip on rso. The fact that Palmar groups us together cements this un-townie, overfocused mindset.

I encourage everyone to check out Palmar's scum games and look at his play d1 (specifically the ones I was in as well, I believe it was russia or titanic or something). It's pre-planned and lazy.

Now look at his town games. It starts off super lazy but he always picks up very quickly. Especially when the town has no leader (i.e. as we have now). He is nowhere this game. This some prepackaged bullshit plan.

##Vote: Palmar

What do you make of the fact that Palmar was lynched D1 as town recently for playing like that ?


if hes scum, then he probally thinks he can get away with this kind of play exactly because of his last game, as people will be less likely to kill him / :

The point is, outside his meta hes playing anti town and within his meta he could easily be town or scum as this kind of play is not at all hard to enact.


Agree. So he is a coinflip.


I suppose / : I just expect more out of him than someone like Onegu, you know?

Yeah I know.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 19:52 GMT
#477
On April 17 2016 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 04:49 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 04:45 Rels wrote:
What changed with Superbia ?


well it's not really a townread tbh more of a i'm not sure what to make of his push on palmar read. i can see him believing what he's saying about palmar, even though i've seen palmar do this before as town (toad, wave in noir, etc) so know he's not necessarily right


actually what that should say is his case is wrong but his read could be right

OK. I get what you mean, it was the only post that looked townie. But he should know Palmar can do that, and even if not it was repeated several times in thread that it is NAI, so it's hard to believe he missed the info.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 20:10 GMT
#497
Starting with this post:
On April 16 2016 02:57 Tumblewood wrote:
rsoul, why do you townread rels after just posting disagreements/question marks in response to him?

Almost every post of Tumble is focused on rsoul. It is after Palmar started his "lynch rsoul" thing, so there is the possibility that Tumble is scum jumping on that lynch. He also has a lot of reasons to scumread her.
Noted above, "rsoul townreads Rels even though she disagrees with him".
On April 16 2016 13:39 Tumblewood wrote:
And by that I mean your only evidence is Superbia saying "Hey I'm not going to be here" and then not being here. Attributing that to scum burnout is a huge conclusion-leap.

"rsoul's reason to scumread Superbia seems fabricated".
On April 16 2016 14:11 Tumblewood wrote:
where I'm at right now:

null
most people

don't want to lynch
gumshoe because innocent town
rels because actually trying
ows because actually trying
palmar because in Devil I lynched him day 1 and I never got to play with him

could lynch today
rsoul because all her answers are kind of meh
superbia because AFK; prefer vig shot

"rsoul's answers are kinda meh".

Then he got questionned by rsoul and his reason to scumread her is actually:
On April 16 2016 14:21 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 14:17 rsoultin wrote:
On April 16 2016 14:11 Tumblewood wrote:
where I'm at right now:

null
most people

don't want to lynch
gumshoe because innocent town
rels because actually trying
ows because actually trying
palmar because in Devil I lynched him day 1 and I never got to play with him

could lynch today
rsoul because all her answers are kind of meh
superbia because AFK; prefer vig shot


i really can't help but be amused that our reads line up so closely (with the exception of ows obv but i was liking his recent activity anyway), and we even both want to lynch the same person, but somehow my answers are meh

i don't think it makes you scum even though maybe it should concern me that you're fine lynching both the talked about people, cause i've liked your previous posting, but still

lol >< i mean, when are we gonna stop holding rsoul to higher standards than we hold ourselves?

pls, I hold everyone + Show Spoiler +
except LS and Slam
to a higher standard than I hold myself
My scum meter for you is, when I ask you a question, if your answer is kinda disappointing but not really scummy, you're probably scum
The problem with this is I haven't played with town rsoul\

Why do you like my previous posting, though, enough to outweigh that thing you didn't like?

"rsoul's answers are not exciting".

On April 16 2016 14:43 Tumblewood wrote:
I read through a random rsoul town game. Well, 3/23 of it. She was a lot more emotional, but has probably moved away from that meta. I'll update when I read one that wasn't from nine months ago.

"town!rsoul is a lot more emotional"

On April 16 2016 14:57 Tumblewood wrote:
I read gaiden, that's only like six months ago
Perhaps what I'm saying is that I expect rsoul to be more... disagreeable? That's the distinguishing factor I see between her town and scum games.
Going to sleep soon so if you have any questions ask now.

"town!rsoul is more unlovely"

On April 17 2016 02:38 Tumblewood wrote:
Many disappointed ohs were uttered during the course of catching up.
Idk how you can read Palmar's case, think "this is a bad case," and then townread Palmar for it on the assumption that, if he's scum, it would be a suicide attack or a failure.

"rsoul's read on Palmar is not logical"

Tumble can you summarize your rsoul read ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 20:23 GMT
#505
On April 17 2016 05:07 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 04:43 rsoultin wrote:
yay town circle is here! \o/ even if i'm not really feeling a superbia lynch that much anymore lol ><

pues, actually, tumble, why did you want me to commit on fazer? like why, specifically, did you want me to commit on an obviously nai post from a brand new player?

I didn't think you actually thought that was alignment indicative, so your "OK to lynch him" felt off. Cleared it up though.

So the post in bold doesn't actually exist. So Tumble is claiming a reason that cannot be true. It's impossible for a townie to make up a reason for what he has done things. So he's scum.
Unless the post in bold actually exist.
Tumble I'm waiting for the source too.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 20:25 GMT
#506
On April 17 2016 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 04:00 Rels wrote:
On April 16 2016 21:28 Superbia wrote:
Want to call gumshoe mafia but 1st post tryhard is at most NAI for him.

I don't understand your thinking there, 1st post is scummy and NAI at the same time ?


this post is fine, as me and superbia just played a game where he attacked me for a try hard post first thing. I was town of course.

So this game starts and superbia sees my post, his first instinct is it's scummy, but then remembers the game we just played.

Hence -scummy, but nai.

So this post rels that caught your attention first, actually just shows him taking my meta in mind after you know, killing me that one time(super built the gun that slam held in his hand). Which is frankly something I applaud XD

That might have been the case, but I would have prefered for Superbia to tell me that himself. You gave him the perfect answer if he's scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 20:31 GMT
#512
On April 17 2016 05:28 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 05:23 Rels wrote:
On April 17 2016 05:07 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 04:43 rsoultin wrote:
yay town circle is here! \o/ even if i'm not really feeling a superbia lynch that much anymore lol ><

pues, actually, tumble, why did you want me to commit on fazer? like why, specifically, did you want me to commit on an obviously nai post from a brand new player?

I didn't think you actually thought that was alignment indicative, so your "OK to lynch him" felt off. Cleared it up though.

So the post in bold doesn't actually exist. So Tumble is claiming a reason that cannot be true. It's impossible for a townie to make up a reason for what he has done things. So he's scum.
Unless the post in bold actually exist.
Tumble I'm waiting for the source too.

It is actually not impossible at all. The question is how likely it is. But let's see his defense.

It's true that it is not impossible, fucking greymist did it once. But it is extremely unlikely. Townie CAN forget the reason they make a post, creating a false one is super unlikely though. Especially here, he clearly refers to a particular post that apparently doesn't exist.
But yeah maybe he refers to something else and this is not happening actually.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 16 2016 20:35 GMT
#518
On April 17 2016 05:30 Tumblewood wrote:
"Oh but Tumblewood you didn't say that last part earlier."
"Scum scum scum for changing his reasons on rsoul."

Yeah it looks like you looked for reasons as you posted instead on focusing on the 1 and 2 things that made her scum. Scum, especially strong scum, are not scum for 50 different reasons.
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