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On April 23 2016 08:52 gumshoe wrote: Alright, I've given this some thought, Ima be blatant.
Whoever you are doctor, your not wifoming tonight, because you suck at it.
Night 1 palmer was a clear heal.
ether super was scum, and he was trying to set up a vig claim onto palmer with the scum shot (which is what happened) or he was town, and there was a good chance scum would let the mishot through, in which case you still heal him. If palmer lives through the night, you know super is rbd, which means palmer is scum. There was literally no reason not to go for it.
Palmer was such a blatant and obvious choice it is absolutely stunning you picked anyone else.
Night 2 the shot was clear as well.
Obi, sl, onegu, tumble, jas were all not getting shot, why? because ethier they were scum or they were patsies, and scum cant kill patsies because they need two mislynches AND ANYONE OF THEM MIGHT CLAIM. which is exactly what happened with obi
that leaves me/gum jat rels and rsoul, guess who was the least likely to get healed/townread from scums view out of that bunch? Also rsouls death threw renewed suspicion on tumble and she had a decent chance at being you doc, so that was a triple win.
Scum shots this game have been brain churningly straightforward, anyone else probally could have stopped them but it's not like we can give you advice so here we are at lylo and it is most certainly your fault. So tonight, your not gonna play, because evidently your bad at the dusk game, and your shit at the day one given how you let that jas lynch happen.
Your going to put your heal on me because I am the one who is going to win this for us.
I will unite this obtuse town and bring this scum team to their knees. I will light the flame, douse the nightmare, shutter the doom, repel the terror. I will do all this with your aid, or we will all perish together.
Trust me, I'm the loudest.
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.........Shitty jat fact 1490231: Jat once brokered peace with the scum team by marrying off his irl daughter to Koshi, the godfather. Today their union is a happy one, this bothers jat for reasons he does not rightly comprehend...
palmar was not a clear heal... maybe a smart heal since mafia knew theres a doctor in the game you should not go for obvious townreads
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tumbleweeds kind of pocketing me. That means 2 of rels/jat/onegu are scum. Which I kind of thought already anyway but I didnt wanna bring up at night. But I think the risk of me getting nked and them winning with an easy tumble lynch is far too great a risk.
Rels is posting really good like in that two faction mafia game and everyone thinks hes town but not me. He skips alot of really important parts like everything I bring up about him. Voted to save superbia straight up for a player thats been proven good at faking town sometimes you need to take votes at a more face value. His activity is also shit which makes some sense if he has two easy lynch baits served up for him.
Thats the second time jat wanted to "sheep" a vote I dont think thats very jat like. Maybe im wrong does not seem like a townie thing to do.
Onegu is pushing gumdrop and hard defending jat... which makes there combo somewhat likely. i dont see how anyone can really think gumdrop is mafia but if anyone can push him as a town it might be onegu.
Im not that sold on tumble as I have ignored him for alot of the game as I pretty much always do to new players because I find it easier to focus on players I have played more with. But I dont think hes an auto lynch tomorrow by anymeans and i think people are giving jat and rels easy townreads all game and one is like 90% mafia. The chance the scum team is straight up onegu tumble is pretty slim.
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Jat not saying im near lock town is pretty suspect. Feel like hes trying to keep his options open. Rels also completely ignoring me
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On April 23 2016 11:53 Tumblewood wrote: is this what a ten page filter feels like? are you also looking at my filter with similar dread because you don't want to read 200 posts? anyhoo, current status is
me gumshoe ows = 100% town
sl = 80% town
rels = 60% town
onegu = 20% town
i guess that leaves 40% of a townie for jat but that's not enough because he looks at least equal to rels if not townier, maybe they could take some towniness from sl and be split 55/55
btw don't read page 105 or most of 104 unless you want in on my ramblings which are spread out among 40 posts
this is acualy what a town should think. you might have bought my vote tomorrow tumble. SO rip me tonight lol
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Lynching onegu tormorow makes sense for me if im on team tumble. He makes sense with both jat and rels. unfortunately a rels/jat team also makes sense but sort of out of place. But I dont think ill ever get the votes to win against that world since you guys seem pretty set on onegu
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On April 23 2016 13:40 gumshoe wrote: alright im going to make this simple for town
jat is town based off his early interactions with super which read as honest confrontation.
sl is town, now that I've thrown away the bullshit I dont see sl bussing the rb so early and staying on him through the whole lynch. Seems totally unnecessary.
if you think tumble is scum, who with then? Cant be rels, rels went out of his way to untr tumble.
Which means only onegu can be scum with tumble. So an onegu lynch is just as good as a tumble lynch, but better as it's guranteed cause onegu has no allegiance clashes with anyone, he can be scum with whoever which makes him more likely to flip scum in the first place.
That and onegu is scum, cause yeah, he is.
ya anyone trying to lynch tumble tormrow has to bring a case with who hes partner with. I dont really see him with anyone the way hes posting right now. because if hes mafia hes probably with one of rels/jat and hes kind of half throwing them under the bus. but then again if hes mafia he just has to live one day..
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the problem with bussing right now for the two mafia alive is that the doctor still has not claimed so there will be a confirmed town So bussing could back them into a corner so a tumble/onegu world is impossible
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I think rels onegu is most likely world.. many are possible shitty spot tbh. medic needs to be a hero!
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Well Onegu / Tumble is he simplest answer. Both of them are scummy, and that would explain the insistance of Tumble to kill Shape, as it is the only path he can take to win. Tinfoils of JAT are coming back ... we'll see what happens during the night. SL & gumshoe suspecting me over nothing makes me mad too. It's quite infuriating to see so many suspicions on me when it's easily the towniest I've been in a long time ... there is nothing against me apart from the D1 vote against Superbia, which means nothing if Tumble is scum, and "he's townie but he's a super good scum" which is why I've been lynched so many times as town. People saying I'm inactive is BS, I've been pretty active and pushing the game forward more than anyone else, but not hyperactive like I am when I'm scum. I swear to god if Tumble is scum and I'm lynched over him I will be super mad. If it's someone else it'll be more understandable, everybody else is quite townie. But I doubt I will get lynched when I am so obv townie anyway. Will not be super active this weekend since I'm in the south of France with my family, I will be rereading the game at some point after the night ends though. BTW this is something everybody should do since it's LYLO unless the doc protects succesfully.
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your the vote analyst guy. do you not find your day 1 vote damning? because I do
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On April 23 2016 22:37 sicklucker wrote: your the vote analyst guy. do you not find your day 1 vote damning? because I do Not really, especially since I only voted tumble after he slipped about a post that didn't exist. If I was superbia s partner I would have been forced to vote him or be super suspicious not voting him since he was one of my main scumread and in that situation I couldn't plan for tumble to make a mistake like that. And if you're going the vote route, how do you find tumble not voting superbia to survive ?
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On April 23 2016 22:58 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 22:37 sicklucker wrote: your the vote analyst guy. do you not find your day 1 vote damning? because I do Not really, especially since I only voted tumble after he slipped about a post that didn't exist. If I was superbia s partner I would have been forced to vote him or be super suspicious not voting him since he was one of my main scumread and in that situation I couldn't plan for tumble to make a mistake like that. And if you're going the vote route, how do you find tumble not voting superbia to survive ?
Tumble says he felt that super might flip town, and then he would just die after.
It's derpy, but keep in mind tumble has made blatant mistakes this game irrelevant of faction.
So it's not like this is some unexplainable scum agenda.
He may very well have got caught up in some erroneous logic and not explained himself properly.
Btw since you think the scum team is tumble onegu, I take it you have no issue lynching onegu tommorow correct?
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On April 23 2016 22:37 sicklucker wrote: your the vote analyst guy. do you not find your day 1 vote damning? because I do
There's no point to this -_- of course he's not going to find his own day 1 damning, and if it was obviously terrible he would have been way higher on the list.
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On April 23 2016 22:58 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 22:37 sicklucker wrote: your the vote analyst guy. do you not find your day 1 vote damning? because I do Not really, especially since I only voted tumble after he slipped about a post that didn't exist. If I was superbia s partner I would have been forced to vote him or be super suspicious not voting him since he was one of my main scumread and in that situation I couldn't plan for tumble to make a mistake like that. And if you're going the vote route, how do you find tumble not voting superbia to survive ?
how do you find superbia fake claiming with tumble as second wagon?
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he could have gave some little excuse like he did way earlier. he knows how much I respect votes
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The thing is people who voted to save super before he claimed are the most scummiest. Because claiming day 1 as scum is basicly giving up and going for a shitty trade. After that not much matters but rels voting to save super before that is big
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On April 23 2016 23:31 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 22:58 Rels wrote:On April 23 2016 22:37 sicklucker wrote: your the vote analyst guy. do you not find your day 1 vote damning? because I do Not really, especially since I only voted tumble after he slipped about a post that didn't exist. If I was superbia s partner I would have been forced to vote him or be super suspicious not voting him since he was one of my main scumread and in that situation I couldn't plan for tumble to make a mistake like that. And if you're going the vote route, how do you find tumble not voting superbia to survive ? Tumble says he felt that super might flip town, and then he would just die after. It's derpy, but keep in mind tumble has made blatant mistakes this game irrelevant of faction. So it's not like this is some unexplainable scum agenda. He may very well have got caught up in some erroneous logic and not explained himself properly. Btw since you think the scum team is tumble onegu, I take it you have no issue lynching onegu tommorow correct? If I had to decide right now, no issues. That might chnage when I reread the game but given what I remember from onegu s filter I doubt it :p
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On April 24 2016 00:15 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 22:58 Rels wrote:On April 23 2016 22:37 sicklucker wrote: your the vote analyst guy. do you not find your day 1 vote damning? because I do Not really, especially since I only voted tumble after he slipped about a post that didn't exist. If I was superbia s partner I would have been forced to vote him or be super suspicious not voting him since he was one of my main scumread and in that situation I couldn't plan for tumble to make a mistake like that. And if you're going the vote route, how do you find tumble not voting superbia to survive ? how do you find superbia fake claiming with tumble as second wagon? GB was the second wagon when superbia fakeclaimed. Let me find the post, might take me a long time on phone :p
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Actually I got lucky 
On April 22 2016 00:54 Rels wrote:Leaving work soon, will be on my phone all evening so no big post but I'll be around to react. I'm OK with Tumble / Onegu / JAS. Tumble is waaaay more likely to be scum though. The thing gumshoe bought up about Superbia & him being suicidal D1 doesn't apply for a few reasons: 1. Superbia was RB. Scum's #1 priority is to let him live. Superbia claiming to live over Tumble makes sense. 2. Tumble NEVER voted Superbia, even though he was "scumreading" him, to save his life; but he voted GB, who he had no real opinion on. 3. Reason 1 is true, but it's not even what happened. Here is the sequence of events: Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 06:48 justanothertownie wrote: Might just vote GB on principle though. Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote: jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything. Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 06:50 justanothertownie wrote:On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote: jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything. Not really. Too many people who are just not invested in this game. Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 06:53 justanothertownie wrote: I am sick and tired of having to decide day1 lynches. Voted GB, do what you want. Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote: fuck it, I'm staying course on superbia. His rsoultin/gb read post was completely non-sensical, he's taking a lot of weird stances based on literal things without trying to diagnose what may be behind it (look at his thing about fazer. Unless fazer is a good/experienced player it's unlikely he'd admit to just sheeping people as mafia).
I think it's a good lynch. Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote: his case on me was also terrible.
I encourage people to sheep me on superbia. Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote: I can't make it any clearer than this right now. DO NOT LYNCH ME. Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote: his case on me was also terrible.
I encourage people to sheep me on superbia. Maybe I will. During the minutes before Superbia's fakeclaim, it was quite evident that the fight evolved into Superbia vs GB, not Superbia vs Tumble. So he didn't killed Tumble by claiming, like gumshoe said. Actually it is the opposite. He didn't fakeclaim as long it was a "Tumble vs Superbia" fight, but as soon as it was "GB vs Superbia", he fakeclaimed.
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